If Kazumasa was still alive during the Mongol Invasion. I believe he would publicly condemn the Ghost to maintain his image but would secretly provide funds to his son’s mission

@blu3d3vil97

Ай бұрын

Oh absolutely Kasumasa was already half of the ghost He was brutal, cruel and unfair but still faced the opponents headon That would be the only difference between them I wonder if jin was able to become the ghost because they are both relatives of close blood Pple do tend to be very similar to those closest related And has saw Kazumasa actions on iki

@Bloomingtide

Ай бұрын

@@blu3d3vil97 Jin became the ghost out of necessity, to do whatever it takes to drive out the invaders, not because he enjoys it. Compassion is what sets him apart from his ruthless father who sees people as tools to wield to establish his superiority. He calls the opposing force "rats" is dehumanizing ppl defending their homes while Jin even as a teen objects and questions this level of violence because he sees people instead of animals like his father. He does not revel in the events there, hates it even, but is complied to follow his father. Prove to him he is a worthy son etc. What sets him apart from his father is the inherent level of empathy, to see people as people no matter their class, which is why he as the ghost has the support of the general population, as he is and is perceived by them to fight for them, not against them. The whole point of the dlc is basically for Jin to face his past and to let go of his survivor guilt, yes, but also to show that underneath the warrior is a kind man who cares deeply about his home, nature (he is basically a feudal disney prince playing the flute in the forest for the animals lol) its people and how to improve their lives instead to destroy it as his father did. Like, there are several instances where Jin says and affirms that he is not like his father, and it shows in how he treats those, outside of his enemies, with compassion instead disdain. He makes different choices than his father did, and thus stops the cycle of hate and death started in the past instead to repeat it. (choosing not to kill you know who... spoilers spoilers xD) KM has failed Jin as a father, was never present in the way Jin needed him to be. KM even called him too soft to be a samurai when this "softness" is actually Jin's biggest strength and what sets him greatly apart from KM and why Jin is able to reconcile with the raiders despite their brutal history with his father/samurai. That and his strong sense of justice, to right the wrong no matter what. Sry for textwalling you but i I really like the dichotomy of Jin's kindness & deep care for others with him slashing off the heads off his enemies and hunt them down to the last men as the ghost of their nightmares, haha.

@octane9966

Ай бұрын

Perfect

@shadowruiz568

29 күн бұрын

Wonder that also if his father supported his son during that invasion ether secretly helping him or something.

@dallasjonpaulgrove547

11 күн бұрын

If you paid attention to what Yuriko said when you first return to Jin's home village to collect the armor and get the ability to poison enemies, you can probably remember her saying something along the lines of "Your father wasn't much for the conventional style of warfare either, you and him have much more in common than you think." I definitely think that while Kazumasa would look down on the backstabbing and trickery, he would love the fear that Jin has weaponized to attack the enemy and reduce friendly casualties.

What Jin originally thought his dad was: a great man that was sadly cut down by his son’s cowardice. What his dad actually was: The prototype ghost.

Kazumasa is more what a historical samurai was compared to the hyper honor bound and fantasy like Shimura

@GnosisZX

28 күн бұрын

My guess shimura prefer a more honest method of fighting and also helps preserve reputation as being too brutal can start revolutions

@aadarshpandey3024

23 күн бұрын

Shimura could have easily saved Jin by lying a bit so that he and Shimura wouldn't have to fight

@GnosisZX

23 күн бұрын

@@aadarshpandey3024 or perhaps accepting the ghost but telling him to be careful who he performs the actions around maybe that the real shimura couldn’t perform deceptive tactics even though he is more than capable a civilian conversation says he deceive me mongols and bandits into killing each other but no evidence of his involvement was ever found Jin was too blatant with the ghost tactics and did not know much about maintaining reputation

@The_preserver_x16

23 күн бұрын

Yeah he probably would’ve pushed Jin to be more secretive about his actions or hell faked his son’s death.

Considering that in the story of ghosts of tsushima that the wind that guides you is implied to be Jins fathers spirit. I'd say he agrees with The ghost.

@megalodon6789

Ай бұрын

I thought the same. Someone else pointed out that in ghost stance the wind still directs you to the nearest enemy. I think Kazumasa would be on board with the ghost if he saw what Jin had seen.

@nickwong2525

16 күн бұрын

Yuriko, Jin's caretaker and served under Kazumasa, said Kazumasa would have approve of The Ghost. Kazumasa and Shimura always argued about their differences.

@rarescevei8268

4 күн бұрын

Implied? At the end of Iki Island, the guiding wind creates the shape of Kazumasa out of leaves. It's way more than implied.

@Kolegadodz

2 күн бұрын

I don’t know if I remembered this correctly, but there is yellow bird following us in exploration. And I think it could be his mother. Not really sure if it makes sense

@nickwong2525

2 күн бұрын

@@Kolegadodz Yes you are correct. Wind is the father and yellow bird is the mother.

In my Opinion, I support Kazumasa Sakai and his brutal tactics after all it made his enemies afraid of him. His son Jin Sakai did the same with the mongols and became the Ghost of Tsushima due to his brutal tactics and for being dishonorable, very similar to his father Kazumasa Sakai who became the butcher of Iki Island due to his brutal tactics and for being dishonorable but both The Butcher of Iki (Father) and Ghost of Tsushima (Son) became legends. I'm so hype for Ghost of Tsushima 2 PS5, CHEERS 💙

@ntfoperative9432

Ай бұрын

I was ok with Kazumasa, until he went after the civilians. He had no reason to butcher the village

@josephstalin2606

Ай бұрын

@@ntfoperative9432 There were raiders hiding amongst the civilians, not saying that butchering all of them was the right choice but you can put just as much blame on the raiders for using their own civilians as a sort of cover or meat shield from the samurai rather than fighting to the death, then again honor is not what raiders strive for so it makes sense for them to use such tactics instead of fighting bravely especially when facing certain death like the samurai did with the mongols

@TheGamer14345

Ай бұрын

are you implying that jin killed civilians

@robert23456789

Ай бұрын

I do not hope for it .... They will woke a fly it transgender black Muslim samiui do you wAnt that

@Agent-57

Ай бұрын

@@ntfoperative9432 Raider's were posing as civilians. There is pretty much no way to identify before you stabbed in the back. Unlike Jin who was fighting Mongols that you know, don't hide among people. The Raider's could be anyone. Even young kids can be groomed into murdering and you will never know. So he did what he had to

Nah kazumaza will probably support the ghost if you do the yuriko side missions she says that there's always bin a rift between kazumasa and shimura cause how honor bound shimura and rigid he is while kazumasa is more "creative"

@Trevors_Dragons

Ай бұрын

The strength we need is all around us

@Wolf-bz6kq

Ай бұрын

Always felt that shimura had some sort of tension with kazumaza, especially how (in my eyes) he was trying to steal Jin away from him by wanting to adopt him and follow HIS code

@throttlestraw

Ай бұрын

@@Wolf-bz6kq to be fair Kazumasa had 0 idea how to deal with jin after his wife's death if i were an uncle who saw that type of relationship with my best bro child i would not feel too happy about that too xD

@Wolf-bz6kq

Ай бұрын

@@throttlestraw yea it's one thing to foster Jin but to give him the shimura name and essentially surrendering the Sakai clan to extinction says enough. Like shimura was saying " I took your son and made him call ME father and the Sakai clan ends with you" to kazumaza

@GnosisZX

28 күн бұрын

@@Wolf-bz6kq nah they had disagreements but those two were practically brothers when shimura called upon kazumasa he answered

Jin is a mix of both Shimura and Kazumasa, he's got his father's tactics and some of his ways, but he upholds innocent lives.

I can see how Shimura would be against using fear as a weapon, given that it's what got Kazumasa killed. But he got so lost in his fantasy of honor and discipline that he wouldn't adapt to a new threat because "it is not honorable." Jin truly took the best parts of both Kazumasa and Shimura and made his own "code of honor" from them.

@TheACTIONZ

15 күн бұрын

He says that while the samurai have masks and helmets that strike fear into their opponents.

@blutarchmann9070

15 күн бұрын

@@TheACTIONZ he himself wears a helmet with demon horns lmao Don't remember if he's ever shown with a mask, or at least a full mask.

@thatbloomer5642

10 күн бұрын

​@@TheACTIONZto be fair, being feared because of your scary mask and helmet is a far cry from being feared because you poison an entire platoon of army or butchering villages of raider families.

Kazumasa- *Real samurai shit* Lord shimura- *honor porn*

Kazumasa was basically to Iki what the Ghost was to the Mongols

“May your death benefit all beings”

8:00 This is actually stated by Yuriko during her string of tales, too, that Kazumasa often argued with Lord Shimura, and that he might not be as against his methods as Jin thinks he would be.

I think that Jin's dad was more "loose" with the code. Which is why he would support Jin from the shadows.

as someone who sunk 400 hours into got in the first 9 months i got it i love that it got the same staying power with you as well to make these videos, love the varied content❤️

Also to make note of the different teaching styles between lord shimura and jins father; Jins father gave alot of hands on approach, was very indirect in teaching, expecting his son to see and then do as is shown...hoping the experience will rub off on him to make him a fighter, with a "learn as you go" approach... treating his jin more as a soldier first and a son second Lord shimmura, over all, was very direct in teaching jin, showing him whats right and wrong....even when wounded by the assassin, he didnt miss the opportunity to lecture him about the "proper way" to do things...lord shimmura treated jin as someone who needed to learn, step by step...from training at the mansion, to hunting an animal....shimmura treated jin as "a son" first, and later as a soldier...

"The Butcher and The Ghost" sounds sick

I mean it makes some sense to want to bring a criminal haven to heel.

@GnosisZX

28 күн бұрын

The whole of Tsushima was criminal haven before the samurai came in

@whitezombie10

9 күн бұрын

@@GnosisZXyeah the samurai had brought discipline and law and in Iki they were doing the same

Biggest death retcon in the snow from the north of Tsushima lol

KAzumasa would definitely help Jin where his uncle is a man of the idea of honour and the ideals of a worrier jins father is the reality of what that would mean

TBH Kazumasa was more honorable than Shimura in terms of feudal Japan definition of honor

I just got to icki island and ngl its like rdr2 guarma but done better

@arthurmorganhimself

Ай бұрын

i think it’s a great expansion because it doesn’t feel forced, it goes into the story jins father and how that impacted him which is a secondary story to the main one and also gives us and jin more closure

@goldendragon8929

Ай бұрын

@@arthurmorganhimself yeah it doesn't feel unnecessary cuz im not gonna lie i though that guarma wasnt important at all (unless you count on how it made arthur more likely to think for himself and see beyond dutches lies and worsened his tb aswell)

@arthurmorganhimself

Ай бұрын

@@goldendragon8929 100% like chapter 5 in rdr coulda replaced guarma with any other event that impacted arthur to accelerate his tb whereas iki island gives jin and us the full story and relationship of his father and his death and why he blames it on himself, like it gives us more lore about him while naturally intertwining it with the poison arc so it’s not shoved in your face, love it personally

@josephstalin2606

Ай бұрын

It’s better because it’s optional, it’s something u can save until the end game when the actual main threat of the story is dead, so instead of feeling like a giant distraction from the main conflict it’s an actual expansion that extends the story in an effective way. Not saying Guarma wasn’t effective in its own way because it shows the “bad” gang members descent and Arthur’s own character development where he changes for the better, but everything about it feels like a huge waste of time while the rest of the gang is helplessly wandering the swamps not knowing of you or the others will ever come back or not

@whitezombie10

9 күн бұрын

I LOVE the comparisons between rdr2 and got

There's a butcher in there alright, it's not Kazumasa. They butchered and tarnished Kazumasa's image. Originally, I don't know if it was bandits, or the rebellion, he died to those instead of some misunderstood, poor raiders. Shimura then hunted down his nephew's father's killers and slew them one by one. There was no mention of Iki Island. Sucker Punch studios HAD to villainize Kazumasa, for whatever reason.

who is Yasuke again?

Kazumasa's death truly benefited all beings.

A traitor. Kazumasa had no room in his heart for growth. Everything different was monstrous, and needed to be put to the sword. There are many ways you can wield a dagger. Some are mundane, some are vicious, some are inspired. All Kazumasa cared about, consisted of two points: 1 - Owning up to the task he was charged with. 2 - The eradication of these lower beings, whom were just normal farmers and villagefolk.

@Agent-57

Ай бұрын

He was killing raiders. Who were posing as peasants.

@GnosisZX

Ай бұрын

Normal farmer those were raiders whom it seems the people shelter

@rarescevei8268

4 күн бұрын

When you fight to protect your people, you dont use them as a shield. When you use the people you protect as a shield, like the raiders did, you're gonna be in the crossfire.

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Why didn’t Ikki kill Jin

@alexandermagnus82

21 күн бұрын

In their eyes, he redeemed the Sakai name by aiding them. Just like Yarikawa, Jin makes allies out of old enemies to fight the Mongols

@ZegetaX1

21 күн бұрын

@@alexandermagnus82 I mean when he was a child

@whitezombie10

9 күн бұрын

@@ZegetaX1they didn’t want to kill a child

@aldrichhf35

6 күн бұрын

@@ZegetaX1 Jin done practically nothing wrong. also since Kazumasa was the one he killed first, whats the point to kill someone's child where the guy is already dead

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