Butch Vig on Producing Smashing Pumpkins’ "Siamese Dream”

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In this clip, producer Butch Vig discusses the pressure he felt recording The Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream after his success with Nirvana.
Original video here: • Butch Vig: From Smashi...
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  • @rickbeato2
    @rickbeato24 ай бұрын

    Full Interview Here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4ltuqydlJesnLA.html

  • @JoanMagistrini

    @JoanMagistrini

    19 күн бұрын

    It sounds like it's my dream come true my love an me already come true a gift a Simese Dream

  • @divisionmonarchy
    @divisionmonarchy5 ай бұрын

    The album is perfection from start to finish, and still holds up sonically 30+ years later.

  • @jeffe2222

    @jeffe2222

    5 ай бұрын

    By far their best work.

  • @facelessandnameless

    @facelessandnameless

    3 ай бұрын

    Total masterpiece!

  • @youreatoilet

    @youreatoilet

    2 ай бұрын

    Their Magnum Opus

  • @bronzeagekid8223
    @bronzeagekid82235 ай бұрын

    These stories are absolute gold. It’s funny that I never really appreciated the golden age of rock I was living through at the time until now.

  • @RAEckart22

    @RAEckart22

    5 ай бұрын

    I hated the hair metal era, so when we heard Jane's, RHCP & Pumpkins, rock was back

  • @GabzitoHD

    @GabzitoHD

    5 ай бұрын

    Maybe we'll appreciate the now as the olden age of music before AI takes over completely

  • @ctrlaltdestroy8821

    @ctrlaltdestroy8821

    5 ай бұрын

    What did you listen to? Did you miss out on G&R, STP, Pearl Jam, MC 900 foot Jesus, Radiohead, The Toadies, etc?

  • @Sneakycat1971

    @Sneakycat1971

    5 ай бұрын

    I liked the 90s much better than the 80s but the late 60s and early '70s was the golden era. It's not even close.

  • @listeningtojets

    @listeningtojets

    5 ай бұрын

    I def appreciated it and still do! Everything was electric

  • @tristangruener9571
    @tristangruener95715 ай бұрын

    Siamese Dream is one of the greatest sounds ever, a defining album for the 90s

  • @bubbasparxxx9492
    @bubbasparxxx94925 ай бұрын

    Jimmy’s drumming on SD is incredible. Extremely influential for generations to come.

  • @steverixon1789

    @steverixon1789

    5 ай бұрын

    Geek USA

  • @electricnebraska

    @electricnebraska

    5 ай бұрын

    Big facts

  • @sprthrwwychnnl73

    @sprthrwwychnnl73

    5 ай бұрын

    “If you want to be great, you have to do heroin.” -Gar Samuelson

  • @Steve-vd3nx

    @Steve-vd3nx

    4 ай бұрын

    Jimmy’s drumming on this and Mellon Collie are stupid. He does not get the respect he deserves as one of the great drummers of the 90’s

  • @cgh7337
    @cgh73374 ай бұрын

    Butch Vig must've been the most in demand producer in the early 90s after producing Nevermind & Siamese dream back to back.

  • @patrickgorski3275
    @patrickgorski32755 ай бұрын

    I was in a band that opened for the Smashing Pumpkins the first time they every played Madison, WI at O’Cayz Corral. Only 2 people came to watch show. Afterwards, I was having a drink at the bar with D’arcy, and she said, “I wish I was in a band like yours. You guys look like your having fun,” which still sticks with me, particularly afterwards since they got/are so big. You could already tell things were not great in the band.

  • @nickrizzo4635

    @nickrizzo4635

    3 ай бұрын

    I assume it’s true. But damn what a story.

  • @handcrafted30

    @handcrafted30

    3 ай бұрын

    That’s a great story.

  • @2Guys1ControllerShow

    @2Guys1ControllerShow

    3 ай бұрын

    What was your bands name?

  • @patrickgorski3275

    @patrickgorski3275

    3 ай бұрын

    @@2Guys1ControllerShow Turbodactyl. We played mainly in Wisconsin (Green Bay, the Fox Valley and Madison) as well as Minneapolis (First Ave, 7th St Entry) opening for mostly local bands, but also touring bands. The Pumpkins were the ones that got the biggest. I still have the flyer from this show (remember flyers?). Cover charge was $3.

  • @thetruth3462

    @thetruth3462

    3 ай бұрын

    @@patrickgorski3275great story

  • @bernstock
    @bernstock5 ай бұрын

    Siamese Dream has a FAT sound like no other. An all-time classic!!! Love to hear Butch speak about it. What a resumé..

  • @IDontTalkToCops
    @IDontTalkToCops5 ай бұрын

    Jimmy’s drumming on Siamese Dream is sick. Ons of my favourite drummers.

  • @charlesthomas9294
    @charlesthomas92945 ай бұрын

    As a Madison native, it's always been such a point of pride for us that Butch and Smart and Garbage were all local products. Got to meet Butch the night I got engaged in February 2003, and he was a real gentleman and had no rock-star ego going on.

  • @jasonoldham1215
    @jasonoldham12155 ай бұрын

    Siamese Dream is one of the greatest records ever recorded in my opinion. Fantastic from beginning to end. Saw Garbage in Austin when they were opening for Smashing Pumpkins during the Mellon Collie tour. They sounded outstanding, way better the SP did.

  • @dangremaus1164

    @dangremaus1164

    4 ай бұрын

    I’ve said the same thing! Saw them in So Cal during the tour. Garbage rocked that show. SP was like the encore.

  • @bwharris2002
    @bwharris20023 ай бұрын

    Siamese Dream is alternative rock mastery. Every single thing about it is perfect, from the songwriting to the production. Alt rock will never reach those heights again. SD is my favorite album by far.

  • @N0Negatives
    @N0Negatives5 ай бұрын

    Would love to hear more from him about Garbage! I was always amazed at the quality of their sound heavy, hard guitar, but extremely crisp and clean. Such a nice change from the grunge. I could crank it way too loud on my cheap car stereo and it would still sound good.

  • @Errcyco
    @Errcyco5 ай бұрын

    The dude behind the scenes of every early 90s album you loved. His approach was so analogue and tribal. Dudes a stud.

  • @floretionguru2977
    @floretionguru29775 ай бұрын

    Rick getting to see Butch years before they would talk and then Butch presumably watching Rick for years before being interviewed by him is a very interesting setup.

  • @scottythetrex5197
    @scottythetrex51975 ай бұрын

    One of my all time favorite albums. I love the distortion on the guitars.

  • @dhollsynthmusic
    @dhollsynthmusic3 ай бұрын

    probably the most emotive rock album of the 90's.

  • @Sadlander2
    @Sadlander25 ай бұрын

    If you have a moment with nothing better to do, here's how I discovered the Smashing Pumpkins: I was 14 years old. Back then, I used to live with my parents on the 4th floor of an apartment building. I had a friend who was a little older than me, he lived on the 2nd floor of that building. One night, when I was at his place, he had invited a few of his friends to play video games on his Nintendo NES and one of them had brought a CD that they played on repeat for the whole time. I didn't know that band. Half of the songs were songs played on acoustic guitars and the other half were songs played on electric guitars, all live versions. I didn't play video games with them, I just sat there, watching them and listening to the music and the more I listened to those songs, the more I liked them, especially one of the songs that was played on acoustic guitars. I later found out that this song is called "Disarm". When they were about to leave, I asked the guy who brought the CD who the band was and he was so happy that someone else liked The Smashing Pumpkins as much as he did. He even let me keep the CD for a couple of days, so that I could copy it to a cassette tape. A few days afterwards, I took the little money that I had and bought the Siamese Dream album.

  • @NESADDICT

    @NESADDICT

    4 ай бұрын

    This story speaks to me on so many levels.

  • @spikeboots5133

    @spikeboots5133

    3 ай бұрын

    @@NESADDICT Nice story. Keep it real.

  • @svenbras6735
    @svenbras67355 ай бұрын

    Please do something with Alan Moulder and/or Steve Albini. True masters in capturing and creating the most vicious sound.

  • @Beermalls
    @Beermalls5 ай бұрын

    Sonically my favorite album of all time! Siamese Dream!

  • @hobojungle1
    @hobojungle15 ай бұрын

    Literally was just listening to this album in the sauna a couple mins ago. One of the best rock albums of all time.

  • @benharris144
    @benharris1445 ай бұрын

    I once spoke to Butch Vig and Shirley Ann Manson from Garbage (but mostly Butch) for about half an hour. It was when I was just getting serious about music. I mentioned that I was a drummer and Butch became immediately interested. He was admittedly a little tipsy, but he was incredibly nice and clearly passionate about others being passionate about music. He gave me a business card with his email on it. It was only a couple weeks after that I realised just who Butch was, and that Shirley was the vocalist of Garbage. I have no idea how it didn't click with me at the time I was speaking to them. There might have been other legends at the table too as it was a table of 6.

  • @DouglasRichardson-er4ky
    @DouglasRichardson-er4ky5 ай бұрын

    One of my best friends and I listened to Siamese Dream brand new in his 1972 VW Super Beetle in Madison WI we KNEW Gish, we knew Smart Studios, we were BLOWN AWAY ... the super beetle had a subwoof we got rip roarn baked hot boxed on some good Hawaiian bud which was RARE in Madison usually Kentucky ditch weed 🔥💨 great album! 😎🤘🏻

  • @maudlinfaust

    @maudlinfaust

    5 ай бұрын

    Sounds like a great day dude

  • @DouglasRichardson-er4ky

    @DouglasRichardson-er4ky

    5 ай бұрын

    @@maudlinfaust ... memorable year for music, Nirvana Nevermind also was blowing our college kid heads off. Beastie Boys had new stuff out Gen X 🙋🏻‍♂️ present

  • @robbyray
    @robbyray4 ай бұрын

    Great interview! Great shoutout to Cosmic Psychos. More people should know about these legends!

  • @Grunger999
    @Grunger9995 ай бұрын

    One of my favourite albums ever!

  • @alibabaschultz352

    @alibabaschultz352

    5 ай бұрын

    @@luke5100 He's always been an opinionated narcissist. But, i think most artistic geniuses are.

  • @RJReda
    @RJReda5 ай бұрын

    SO cool to see this, SD is one of my all-time favorite albums! 🤘

  • @TheAncientEmo
    @TheAncientEmo5 ай бұрын

    Rick I think it would be awesome if you could get Mark Rubel & Matt Talbot on to talk about recording downward is heavenward.

  • @CleanFamilyVideos

    @CleanFamilyVideos

    5 ай бұрын

    I don’t know you and you don’t know me but thank you for recommending such a great record.

  • @TheEireplane
    @TheEireplane5 ай бұрын

    Fantastic interview, worth listening to it in full

  • @Pbnj1379
    @Pbnj13795 ай бұрын

    This was the surprise interview I absolutely love!

  • @lpdoogles5485
    @lpdoogles54855 ай бұрын

    Love when you have other producer interviews 😊

  • @scottmactavish9716
    @scottmactavish97165 ай бұрын

    The Mellow Yellow story reminds me of one of John Mulaney's best bits, where he and his friends played "What's New, Pussycat" maybe 20 times in a row on a restaurant jukebox until people were losing their mnds!

  • @deezuschrist
    @deezuschrist3 ай бұрын

    This is my favourite album of all time. Every song is perfect. The whole thing is just brilliant.

  • @seanmathers7914
    @seanmathers79145 ай бұрын

    What a cool interview!

  • @lmstudio5338
    @lmstudio5338Ай бұрын

    this is gold!

  • @phasmoid666
    @phasmoid6665 ай бұрын

    I was at The Point show; one if the best Rock experiences ever.

  • @keithferreira3866
    @keithferreira38665 ай бұрын

    Great stuff!

  • @jomppeautio2798
    @jomppeautio27983 ай бұрын

    Butch Vig is an incredible guy and a great producer..

  • @IgnacioChavez
    @IgnacioChavez5 ай бұрын

    Beato, good questions, good ideas and best of all good taste

  • @rdubb77
    @rdubb775 ай бұрын

    Billy trolling the audience with the Donovan Song is 💯 Billy Corgan

  • @jasonmcwatts1684

    @jasonmcwatts1684

    5 ай бұрын

    I was at a Pumpkins show maybe 15 years ago in London - think it was just Billy playing as SP - the crowd was a really obnoxious bunch of folks who just wanted to hear Siamese Dream and Melancolie back to back, and Billy was trying to play his newer stuff. Crowd kept shouting at him to play the old stuff and you could see he was getting progressively annoyed. Eventually he turned to the audience and basically said, fine you motherf***rs, you want the old stuff, here it is, and proceeded to play Bullet with Butterfly Wings at literally 3 times the normal tempo and then walked off stage. Pissed the entire audience off massively but I thought it was hilarious - it's like, it's Billy f***ng Corgan people, he's earned the right to play what he want to play and not be a performing monkey...

  • @chickeastwater9883
    @chickeastwater98835 ай бұрын

    You should put Original Date , of interwiews in the Descriptions. For later viewing.,, much later 10 yrs.......

  • @rockyscarlet
    @rockyscarletАй бұрын

    This king doesn't get enough recognition.

  • @drlorenzana
    @drlorenzana5 ай бұрын

    I wore out this album start to finish for an entire year or two. Never seen SP live…and maybe for the best, from stories I hear? One of my favorite records…

  • @ogidy001

    @ogidy001

    4 ай бұрын

    Saw them in 98 on the Ava adore tour in Melbourne. They were very good and oddly funny.

  • @Littleneddygtw
    @Littleneddygtw5 ай бұрын

    Awesome thx guys

  • @kevinaustin0369
    @kevinaustin03695 ай бұрын

    Masterpiece!

  • @AmericanHuskyCash
    @AmericanHuskyCash5 ай бұрын

    The mello yellow story is classic 90s antics Amazing!

  • @TheTobesOfHades
    @TheTobesOfHades5 ай бұрын

    Met Butch a few year ago. Very nice guy.

  • @m-funkshun
    @m-funkshun5 ай бұрын

    Anybody remember Autumn '91? Like everything dropped that fall... Bad Motor Finger, BSSM, Nevermind, ad nauseam. Wonderful times.

  • @chadmcfarland9660
    @chadmcfarland96605 ай бұрын

    Thank you Mr. Vig for this masterpiece.

  • @cacophonic7
    @cacophonic718 күн бұрын

    Is there more to this interview? I need more and will pay for it.

  • @derekhell666
    @derekhell6665 ай бұрын

    Overwhelming Colorfast is and was AMAZING.

  • @brooksdurham8244
    @brooksdurham82445 ай бұрын

    God I grew up in Marietta, & when I found out that Siamese Dream was recoded at Triclops Studio I was blown away 🙌🎶🖤

  • @mflee6590
    @mflee65905 ай бұрын

    Love this era of music

  • @rpdunn8
    @rpdunn85 ай бұрын

    Subscribed!

  • @JohnDoe-qu7gm
    @JohnDoe-qu7gm3 ай бұрын

    One of my all time favorite albums

  • @MrMeadfoot
    @MrMeadfoot5 ай бұрын

    Great drummer.

  • @MrAphex117
    @MrAphex1175 ай бұрын

    I knew since the Singles soundtrack and their song "Drown" the next album was gonna be huge.

  • @crazycatman5928
    @crazycatman59285 ай бұрын

    November 26, 1996 Laffayette la. I seen Garbage and Smashing Pumpkin. They came back to play a show that was canceled due to Chamberlain and Keyboardist issues. Billy opens up the set by openingly ridiculing the town by saying something like I don’t know why we are even here in Lafayette. I never held that against him… always hated living in Louisiana. From what I remember it was a great show.

  • @giselaafonso
    @giselaafonso4 ай бұрын

    Great to know the man behind one of the records of my life.

  • @noveltycrusade
    @noveltycrusade5 ай бұрын

    Legend ❤

  • @Gorgonzola0987
    @Gorgonzola09875 ай бұрын

    Butch’s impression of a plane taking off is uncanny! The man’s talent knows no bounds

  • @molin1
    @molin14 ай бұрын

    I loved that Overwhelming Colorfast album so much.

  • @veloracer
    @veloracer5 ай бұрын

    Overwhelming Colorfast was produced well... Saw them in Madison at OK's Corral

  • @scottcorkery7863
    @scottcorkery78634 ай бұрын

    Props to Rick Beato...he knows ppl😂😂😂❤❤❤

  • @alexanderednie1205
    @alexanderednie12053 ай бұрын

    Cherub Rock and Rocket are 2 of my favorite songs from the 90s

  • @fernandocidburghi1488
    @fernandocidburghi14884 ай бұрын

    Done. Subscribed...

  • @rockboy360
    @rockboy3603 ай бұрын

    He should've asked about the 40 guitar tracks on Soma!

  • @RyanCoomer
    @RyanCoomer5 ай бұрын

    omg that accent sounds like home!!!!

  • @johnny310xx
    @johnny310xx5 ай бұрын

    Cool, dude

  • @steven2640
    @steven26403 ай бұрын

    For first three albums of this era you'd be hard pressed to find a band that was more successful creatively than the Smashing Pumpkins.

  • @satevo462
    @satevo4625 ай бұрын

    TIL Siamese Dream was recorded in Atlanta, which I lived in for 20 years.

  • @Liverpool-axeman

    @Liverpool-axeman

    5 ай бұрын

    Wow so what! I had a cat once 😂

  • @Gaba.Groove
    @Gaba.Groove4 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @petercook360
    @petercook3605 ай бұрын

    I've always seen the recording span of Siamese Dream listed as December 1992-March 1993. I'm not sure where this six month break factors in. The record was out by July 1993.

  • @PandaThiefChannel

    @PandaThiefChannel

    4 ай бұрын

    It sounds to me like he's saying they had not started recording yet, Billy was showing Butch demos, and they were about to go in and record, then Billy said he needed more time for more songs, and that must have been in June 1992. Then they came back and began actually recording at the studio December 1992.

  • @Johnlennonswag2013
    @Johnlennonswag20135 ай бұрын

    i like this record 🪚

  • @popandroid
    @popandroid5 ай бұрын

    IF Rick hasn't heard Wall of Eyes yet, he should 'react' to it live...best non-Radiohead side project album yet, VERY retro/futuristic music theory whiz-friendly.

  • @redcomet0079
    @redcomet00795 ай бұрын

    *He is the greatest rock producer of all time* 🎧

  • @hellbenderdesign
    @hellbenderdesign5 ай бұрын

    damn, what happened to _Overwhelming Colorfast?_

  • @slamjackson2137
    @slamjackson21375 ай бұрын

    I keep thinking that thumbnail is David Spade.

  • @MAKEITSTOP777
    @MAKEITSTOP7775 ай бұрын

    🎸👍🏼👍🏼

  • @regalpinguino
    @regalpinguino4 күн бұрын

    Butch & Billie are musical maji.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo575 ай бұрын

    Butch says Siamese like normal people. Have you ever heard how Billy says it?

  • @Riffmaster227

    @Riffmaster227

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 C-A Mese. He says that on the live at the metro concert from 93.

  • @empathogen75
    @empathogen755 ай бұрын

    I saw a Marilyn Manson show in the 90s where they did the same thing that Butch talked about with Mellow Yellow, except it was Freebird by Lynyrd skynrd. By the third time they played it, there were like 6000 goth kids in black singing “this bird you cannot change!”

  • @augustjohnnycrashed
    @augustjohnnycrashed5 ай бұрын

    Why dont u ask about Steve Marker and Duke Erickson?

  • @BradleyJames66
    @BradleyJames665 ай бұрын

    Looks like Todd Rundgren

  • @satevo462
    @satevo4625 ай бұрын

    We had a singer that for mouths would just hum along to the songs we had but never had any actual lyrics. Finally, our guitar player told him to just let it out and stop trying to write the perfect lyric. He turned out to be the best frontman of any band I played in. And when we went into the studio, he learned how to do harmonies in like an hour.

  • @Liverpool-axeman

    @Liverpool-axeman

    5 ай бұрын

    What has that got to do with anything?

  • @rinosphere
    @rinosphere5 ай бұрын

    "Did you know it was gonna be such a big record?" ... every time I hear that question, I wanna say Come on, does anyone?

  • @splashesin8
    @splashesin85 ай бұрын

    😊

  • @guilty-of-being-right
    @guilty-of-being-right5 ай бұрын

    This was the best album SP did.

  • @richardmaggio1979
    @richardmaggio19795 ай бұрын

    I am the 13%!

  • @StuPedassol
    @StuPedassol5 ай бұрын

    I love that he still has that "Myadisan" accent lol❤

  • @partycakes456
    @partycakes4563 ай бұрын

    They couldn't hide from Manny Chevrolet 😅

  • @coolybrewster2661
    @coolybrewster26614 ай бұрын

    Another round and im on the ground, another glass and im on my ass, now i never done no wrong as such, im just the man that drank to much!

  • @s3cr3tsquar333
    @s3cr3tsquar3335 ай бұрын

    4:35 you went to commercial RIGHT when he was talking about the origin of the famous distortion, and then didn't go back to it. the one thins i wanted to hear. if this is the kind of thing i'm to expect, not subbing.

  • @NickKizirnis
    @NickKizirnis5 ай бұрын

    Just Subscribed! Sorry about that

  • @mrlt1151
    @mrlt11515 ай бұрын

    Could you imagine if some record company guy pressured them to start recording without Today or Disarm? Completely different record.

  • @tylerbrunton7696
    @tylerbrunton76964 ай бұрын

    Torana, glad he dropped that after a hard "Toronto".

  • @Jamesp1972
    @Jamesp19725 ай бұрын

    Butch seems like a great guy, Siamese Dream is basically the sound of the Russian Big Muff

  • @Riffmaster227

    @Riffmaster227

    4 ай бұрын

    OP amp big muff not Russian.

  • @neverfallnewsmedia
    @neverfallnewsmedia5 ай бұрын

    If you have never had sexy time to this album, I suggest you try it. ❤

  • @MoonBaillie
    @MoonBaillie5 ай бұрын

    rick beato questions should exclude rick beato experience, or 'friends' networking. superficiality is killing the music.

  • @skylernorwood9526
    @skylernorwood95263 ай бұрын

    Arguably the best songs were the ones written during the hold

  • @lorenmars5244
    @lorenmars52445 ай бұрын

    Reminder. This is not Mutt Lange.

  • @Cream1968

    @Cream1968

    5 ай бұрын

    You mean he didn’t sleep with Billy? …😉

  • @Riffmaster227

    @Riffmaster227

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Cream1968😂😂😂

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