This is my version of a tierlist! Showing you all how each unit can be used rather than telling you which unit to use! I figured this was the best way to display the capabilities anyways. Most of these units can be made to 3 turn or worked into one of the hybrid systems mentioned so don't fret if you're unsure about how good your unit will be. The big key is going to be having the supports as always! I used the term supports pretty loosely here even though I didn't include ever unit with some kind of buff to help. Thank you all for watching and I hope this was informative! If you enjoyed the content be sure to consider liking the video and subscribing for more daily content! 👍

@requiemTA

Жыл бұрын

Khad haven't watched your video yet so dunno if you addressed it but I would really appreciate if you do a separate video in which you explain how buster works for +90 nodes, lotto events or events with np charge CE. I feel like "buster system" gives people the wrong idea about how to 3 turn a farming node effectively, especially lv90+ nodes which require more creativity with the setup. For regular 3/3/x nodes we already have comfy arts loopers who require no more than 1 arts looper, 2 Castoria, a dragon's meridian and even no specific mystic codes so when I see people getting hyped about buster I fear they'll make things complicated for themselves for no reason. I've seen even some crit setups which abuse Koyan's starbomb and mages to one shot 1/1/x nodes with Junao's buster crits alone. A setup like this would be faster and more efficient than going charge ce + double koyan + oberon. When it comes to buster and lv90+, there's a lot of possibilities.

Just wanted to say that double koyan is called KK and the triple koyan is triple koyan instead of emmmmm nevermind

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Oh trust me, I purposely avoided that one. 😂

@CoFF3e_Man

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha being Filipino be like☠

@ChaldeaWarmaster

Жыл бұрын

​@@CoFF3e_ManI know right.... What's so controversial about three Ks eh? Kek

@daveya3533

Жыл бұрын

Why not just call it NFF services?

It's kind of a tragedy that Consort Yu has the old 27% Vampirism battery. If she had that extra 3%, she could loop with double Koyanskaya and Xu Fu (thanks to Xu Fu's special 50% charge for Consort Yu), which would make her a pretty accessible/low cost looper, all things considered.

@straypaper

Жыл бұрын

But what about her self dispel

@JiryStark

Жыл бұрын

@@straypaper She has buff removal resistance for 3 turns. Also, she has a 10% np charge per turn in her first, so it makes up for her 27% vampirism not being enough, making her compatible with the doble Vitch/Oberon system with a non mlb kscope.

@haveagoodday7021

Жыл бұрын

True, only problem is that if you have Koyanskaya, you might as well use her as your buster aoe assassin

Randomly drops a tier list Elaborates in great detail Leaves What a Chad

@Awoken0

Жыл бұрын

Chadroth

this kind of content is super fucking useful, would you consider do a similar tier list for skadi and castoria systems eventually?

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Possibly but it will take time 😅

@dragonmaster3207

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadrothgoat

I live for the hour long content. Always a great watch after work

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for not getting this out sooner, it was ready last week but being sick I didn't want to throw it out without anything to follow it.

@Kevrbar

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth no worries man, always better to get things out when they're ready rather than rushing them

it feels so weird that Gray has had an NP interlude meanwhile LArtoria, Arthur and Raikou haven't...

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

There's still so many year 1 and 2 units in need of love, I really don't understand why the devs revisit some of these units for long periods of time.

@temyar55

Жыл бұрын

Raikou got an NP buff. It was a bad one that should have given her more damage instead of something that screams “Cope with your low damage.” But it did happen.

@AJLaz000

Жыл бұрын

@@temyar55 she did?? . . . holy sht she did!!! standard dmg up and... crit chance down to enemies?? eeggh well at least 2 of her skills still have the chance to get buffed... fingers crossed on a potential battery #Copium

@L0rdLexan01

Жыл бұрын

It's because she's best girl, obviously

@ShebaFr

Жыл бұрын

Raikou will eventually need a battery and a star bomb to be able to compete with her other AoE buster zerkers fellow. Skill 1 be the star bomb Skill 2 need to up its Buster up to 3 turns AND a battery (the dodge honestly feel like a suggestion) After all Amakusa had like 3 rank up before being considered viable.

Thanks for the thorough video, Khad! The detailed walkthrough for the buster system, its variants, and a breakdown of Oberon and Koyan before the actual tierlist was a great above and beyond touch. It's clear that you put a lot of effort into this tier list for the community.

I like how much in detail about the pros and cons you went to. And how this system is useful for people that wanna use their favs.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Yep, the big thing I wanted was to give people an idea of how their favorites work in that system and which of the setups/supports they'll need.

Love when you do these easily broken up into sections guides. Legit changed the way I play

Got to say this is the kind of tier list I can get behind. Good breakdown of the various characters available here under the Buster system. On the positive side I’ll be all good on the black grail front. One of the rare big older CEs that I did stumble upon enough to get to MLB. Will be fun to try out the various options I do have (Caster Nero), Ereshkigal, Ishtar, etc. but also the ones I’ll roll as many of as I can in the future like Melusine.

Finally getting around to this. I think this format is actually better/more useful than that i was expecting. I was just expecting "use this unit this unit this unit" but the video is like a one size fits all explaining how to use literally every unit

Love the guides man I always share them with my friend, hes super happy since hes new and wanted to run a buster set up hes been saving since New years.

First time ever commenting in a video of yours man, I love your content. I especially love how much of a technical, and exhaustive you go in your videos and you give a fair treatment to any servant you come across, be it good, bad, mediocre, whatever. And I love these long video formats. Been playing FGO for a good while on both NA and JP, and seeing this in-depth really helps me and so many to see what to do and even what can be done to maximize the efficency of every servant available in your Chaldea. Not having Oberon on JP really hurts, and I know he isn't exactly the end all be all if you don't have it, but even then, glad to see there's so much one can do with the system (as I have been maining Arts mostly and sometimes Quick here and there) but I do have both Koyans, so yeah this help a lot. Thanks for all the hard work you do for the community mate, keep at it!

You're videos are always helpful Khad!

Archetype Earth's best comp is with Oberon x2 and Vitch which is cool because she's one of the very few units that can do that from 0%. The 80-100% charge units are super important because they are the only ones that can 6CE lottos with enough investment which none of the other Buster units can do. Nice video as always.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

That sort of glosses over the possibility of charge CE's and hybrid setups but sure.

@alispeed5095

Жыл бұрын

How will she overcome her innate low damage issues with that set up? Np levels + 120?

@lhv2k

Жыл бұрын

@ali speed The 2xOberon comp is the highest damage comp for Arc, but yeah her damage is still potato compared to other servants using Oberon.

@freddiemach1520

Жыл бұрын

@@lhv2k think he's referring to wave 1 and 2 values mostly, since Oberon's S3 is 1T

thank you for the video! both for the looping info, and for talking about servants who have zero charge not being unusable lol

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! And yeah, people are really quick to write off the units with no charge rather than thinking about how they can make them work.

Is been soo long since the 1 hour long videos that i love im going to get some snaks and get confy since its raining outside perfect way to start the evening

Recommend prioritizing Koyan and Oberon this year if youre going after them. More so Oberon since his repeat banner is furthest away from his drop date if i remember correctly. Other fae/summer units get repeat banners alot sooner if clairvoyance is anything to go by

Each Space Ishtar ascension occupies its own space on the tier list. As does Nobuvenger. Avengers are just built different.

Love your content! Can't wait to watch this video.

My guy releasing awesome content during busiest time of the year? Love to see it.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

The secret is that this was recorded before I was busy 😅

@_d0ser

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth And now I can listen while I prepare these 1031 exchanges. Everything comes full circle!

Very useful easy to understand content as always 👍

Remembering one of your old videos, I really do hope they start making 30% charge CEs for 50% servants. As is, it's so weird that the buster system basically wastes mana loading for the 50% chargers and doesn't really reward them for having a bigger battery... Other than having less buttons to press? Haha.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Yep a lot of what was said in that video still holds true too. We've still got plenty of units that are super clunky or wasteful in this system. At least they've started to show some newer CE designs in the past year though so here's hoping!

Thanks for the helpful vid! I just got both Koyan and Oberon so now I'm all in on whatever this new meta is. Also leaving this here to remind myself to turn 24:01 into a soundbyte.

I love the tier lost and reasoning for it. Very smart way of going about it.

My favorite Emiya comp is going to be Emiya, Arash, and Castoria, with Backline Koyan. Assuming max appends, 1 Castoria can charge Arash to max and Emiya to 50%. When Koyan comes in, she can top Emiya off and he'll clear wave 2. Wave 3 he's fully charged and the atlas mystic code can bring projection off cooldown for a safe clear.

A quick correction, Tawara actually has a 10% NP battery with his recent buff during the 7th anniversary.

Very interesting and informative content, well done (as always)! Still, I'm insane and imma try everything in my power to user Oberon himself as my looper with double Koyan. The things we do for love.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

You can do it! The only issue with Oberon is his overall damage output and invuln on NP. Just make sure you precard if you think you'll fall short!

@solitare4602

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth You can also do some sort of Pierce Invul strat with Sweet Crystal, Jane, or Sherlock. Jane can 30% NP charge too if that's helpful (along with crit support).

@paradoxhamartia7843

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth I'll remember that! I also plan to take him all the way to level 120, 2k fous and (if the gacha allows it) have him at Np5. That should help a lot with his overall damage.

really amazing video khad

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I just wanted to mention that Arc not only works in a dual core setup with sibuki but also as a single core setup. arc with double koyan and plug sibuki nets enough charge to np 3x. T1 arc battery, T2 koyan batteries, T3 arc battery again since 7t cd -2 (wave3) -4 (double koyan) -1 (sibuki s2) =0. sibuki also brings a party atk buff and a buster buff for arc. Also great and informative video Khad!

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Yep I purposely tried not to deal with SIbuki because of the fact that then I'd have to start letting in all sorts of mix and match setups. And at that point it becomes impossible to keep any focus to the video. 😂

My Caenis, Gilgamesh, and I appreciate this video. 👍

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

It's funny because you'll see a lot of people just write Caenis off when she can easily be made to work. 😂

@Ethonra

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Khadroth Honesty, I just love her character and design. She is as much fun to watch as she is to use on your team. But yes, she can become quite the tsunami once she starts going!

Khad hitting the on the tier list 💜

I am glad that I am learning what I can do with Bunny Artoria.

The triple damage comp gives me an idea of using Arash castoria and 2 servants with 50% charge skills. Arash with a 30% CE has castoria use her 20% charge in him and he nps then castoria uses her charisma to charge the 2 attackers and that should let both loop with max append and 6 event CES if they have starting charge

SPISHTAR TIME LESS GOOO

0:00 Before we start: What's the deal with that chair on the corner? Is that the husky's chair of shame where you can put him when he does something wrong?

Barghest best doggo! 💕💕 Gonna be spamming her non stop and maybe Morgan ;) hahaha

thank you khadroth, i am going for both of them and hoping that i can loop

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

If you have both of them you'll have no problem getting any of your favorites to work in the systems!

@joejoe-vm1fj

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth i have 1800 sq, a space ishtar, and a dream

@brendanmetivier511

Жыл бұрын

​@joe joe with 1800 sq you're guaranteed to get both of them, so you're all good.

@joejoe-vm1fj

Жыл бұрын

@@brendanmetivier511 But I also want to summon for castoria because i missed her last banner and i think she is also important so i am hoping i can get all 3 with 1800 sq

Considering exact same support (Double Koyan + Oberon) and exact same CE, does Melusine really hits harder than Arcueid on all class except Sabers? Arc is poverty friendly since she can work with only two supports, but Melusine is triple support or broke. Does Arc's ability to BG/6CE with Atlas makes up for the damage difference?

Re watching now that we have Koyan!

This isn't a tier list, it's just straight facts, hard to argue with tbh

I figured out how to always get around the external sleep problem. Always use Arash

Another one Id like to point out is double Oberon + 50% DPS if all 3 have their append 2 unlocked all 3 can np 1 wave each. Something to look out for is you are doing a knight class node just be careful of wave 1 and 2 damage tho this time you can use Oberon S3 on wave 2 on one of the Oberons since you only really need 1 for wave 3

1:21:53 I'm confused by Tametomo's placement not in the "20% Charge 10% Back" As he has Flat 20% + 10% Regen? Similar Question regarding Arjuna (Flat 25% + 10% Regen) Also Tota has 10% Charge with his recent buff

After MLBing the anny CE I have to ask, are there any specific comp that work from 60% starting charge?

I'm going for melusine np 3 this year for her December banner. The fact that she can 3 turn with black grail with just oberon/koyan/ wavers.🥴

Has the third Servant in the Carding description been released yet? If so, why are they?

I was so worried that I wouldnt be able to get both koyanskaya & oberon, ESPECIALLY after going hard on Morgan & Melusine. But I got Oberon with only 1 SAINT QUART! I thought those daily pulls would be a waste of quartz but boy was I wrong! My luck started badly with Morgan who was the first ever servant I got from reaching pity. Then it got better from there with 350 quartz for melusine & 150 quartz for koyanskaya. Oberon costing 1 quart must be fate, because I really liked him even after he showed his true self in lostbelt 6. At least i got baobhan sith & barghest to NP5 from the bad morgan luck as well!

I wanna a video about what could I do with having Oberon and no meta support (only have Wayver and Reines)

What counts as low np level for emiya? It np5 or bust? (Cries with np4 emyia if so)

Thank you Khadroth!

Using Bunny to double buff crit damage and engineer a brave chain is a lot of fun.

I've been running double morgan, castoria, and oberon. My account is fairly new and I just got wildly lucky with castoria and np2 morgan. Oberon I whaled for because he's my fav though. But because my skill levels aren't all at 10 with this setup I can guarantee that both morgans with black grails end up at 80% charge before I swap to oberon who has a kscope, his first skill then pushes everyone to 100. First wave I use the plugsuits damage buff and ult with oberon. Second wave morgan ults Third wave second morgan ults with oberon buffs. I've been absolutely steam rolling events 90+ nodes and the singularities no problems. I've used double koyan and morgan and oberon, but I like the consistency of the two morgans and castoria. kko hits harder than my setup for sure, but that doesn't really seem necessary when I'm pulling 500k damage and one shotting everything anyway.

I don’t suppose there’s a way to avoid mana loading append on those 30% chargers in a KKO setup is there? Outside of 70%+ CE of course

Arcueid can Double Koyan + Summer Ibuki 3 turn Black Grail loop witch is kinda cool since you don`t care about refund. This is how I farmed the latests 1-1-2 90+ node in the Pope Joan JP event.

Aw hell yeah this what I been waiting for Makes the drive home from work so much better lmao Been an Arts nerd for a while now so a buster guide really helps!

Buster is life!! I live for Buster!!! *insert the elmo burn gif*

Hey there I'm a free to play player and I don't know for what support I should roll this year would like a video to that much love

Morgan system my beloved

Use 7 turn charge t1, double koyana brings it down to 3, 1 turn passes and Suit does another what 2 sooo you can absolutely run 7 cd chargers

Sherlock Holmes has a 50% charge on a 5-Turn cooldown, fwiw, though obviously he doesn't have a damaging NP

Horrified at the concept of gille de rais lily. That miss speak aside this has been lovely video ty for giving it to us.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Haha that was no misspeak. "Lily" is apparently what his VA Tsuruoka Satoshi uses to refer to his saber form. 😂

Hey Khadroth! Thnx for the info. As someone who started in November and after spending all spishtar banner, still didn't get her, and currently don't have any meta units, like mushashi berserker, or any meta supports, not even Castoria. What would benefit my account more? Saving for konyan, Oberon and Morgan/Melusine rn and skip castoria and S.kama to wait for their rerun banners. OR Save for castoria and S.Kama rn with a few SQ for konyan and skip Oberon & Morgan/Melusine for their reruns? Any help would be much appreciated 🙏

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

So the issue like you kind of detailed here is that you need a lot more things to make the buster systems work in general. One of the things that keeps me recommending units like Castoria for newer players is the fact that she functions so well outside of just farming thanks to her solemn defense on NP. The system is easy to build and supplement with low star units and typically it requires nothing else. Buster can be similar but won't accel at its biggest niches (damage and not having to rely on refund) without a handful of top end units. Both are great, but if you're trying to do this on a budget I'd still recommend arts for now, and trying to build towards buster as you go.

@_dxksh

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth Kay, thnx for the help👍. So save for castoria and Konyan for supports and then get either NP2 S.Kama/Morgan. Also on an unrelated note, is S.Kama better or S.Ibuki?

@muratticugaratti1571

Жыл бұрын

Never skip Oberon he is a must have

@_dxksh

Жыл бұрын

@@muratticugaratti1571 won't he be getting a rerun in December?

@muratticugaratti1571

Жыл бұрын

@@_dxksh Koyan will Oberon doesnt comeback for 1.5 years

I'm surprised you didn't include Nitocris in there... What do you mean "She's art, bro"? Her battery has the right cooldown to work, what are you saying?

I'm so hyped, finally mai waifu Nero Caster will get used more often!

Khadroth: "Everyone should have Cu Caster, after clearing Fuyuki." me who accidentally burned my Cu Caster on my early days of playing. (Utmost Regret)

@SarahChan-vc2fh

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, you can grab some copies in the coming banners

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

The biggest of oofs 😢

Tawara Touta has partywide 10% charge now, so shouldn't he be in the "Can 10% Charge" tier?

@MrZacdeath

Жыл бұрын

Was gonna say the same thing.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

YES! Thank you for the catch that's my bad. I've updated the list and posted a new link in the video description!

@JaimeNyx15

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth Thanks for the update!

Is it weird to say that I will listen to the video whenever I take a long bath?

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Just don't drop your phone in!

@KoutaRain

Жыл бұрын

Nah, do that as well, Guren. Consume your entertainment media during the late afternoon/evening shower. Such is the full time work life, haha.

abigail should be able to do: 50% starting, 20% mana loading, 30% skill 10% recharge, 50% koyanskaya (rotate out) 20% oberon 20% oberon 50% oberon 50% oberon am I missing something there?

My np5 2000,2000 lvl 120 ereshkigal (that will be buffed!) Is so really for koyonskaya

arc made me switch to jp, got her to np5, yet still don't have koyan/obby for her yet 😬 gacha hell tryna make do with nero bride for now

i will be using iskandar with arash because hes my fav servant

every day that passes i regret burning my caster cu, but alas i have morgan and both ishtars so im good

Man, it sucks that my favorite servant has very limited uses and can't even function in a buster system

As an unga bunga buster boi,I fully approve and welcome this advice

That double Blackbeard tho

I got my 1k sq ready to get double oberon koyan barghest to farm everything with the big cute dog

wait overcharge and NP level arent the same thing? ive been playing this game for years and still didnt know this XD

1:25:31 did he just call gilles saber gilles de rais lily

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Yep! 😂

The funniest thing is that if Summer BB could reduce her own cooldowns, even by just one, she would become the best neutral buster farmer in the game with KKO setups. Think about double buffing with her second skill, boosted by Oberon. Let that sink in.

But khad why can’t buster units touch black grail? Ugh there so bad!

@adrastos8401

Жыл бұрын

Looks at Melusine, Cu Caster, Arcueid and Oberon.

@Khadroth

Жыл бұрын

Look at this jester, the man who edited the video everyone! 😂

@ACertainMan

Жыл бұрын

Buster units can't touch grass smh.

@anipally2387

Жыл бұрын

@@Khadroth don’t out me like that, is only joke 😂

Caenis' 20% battery makes me very sad whenever I look at it ;_; At least he's fun to use for big crits

Sounds to me that 3 turning is more trouble then its worth unless your really desperate on time. Im a brand new account off valentine but I used to play.. kinda raged quitted after summer 2 years ago on a banner and threw my account away. Starting again this year from scratch I was looking up who to roll for the buster meta definatly seems to be way too many things togheter to be viable for a brand new account without the good CEs or dmg units.

@Grizzle2894

Жыл бұрын

It might be tough getting enough sq if you're ftp but it really comes down to rolling for Oberon and Koyan later this year. Once you have those two, you have 90% of the requirements and you just fill in your favorite buster DPS. You'll get a lot of good 50% CEs from events this year as well, so that won't be an issue for long either.

@6ToesHeACreature

Жыл бұрын

Honestly buster farming is straight up overrated it’s loooooong as shit because of all the clicking which can get very annoying.

tbh... I would spend my sq on Oberon first then spending my sq on Koyanskaya since she will have her re-run within a months while Oberon takes more than a year. besides... Oberon best suppory would be Buster but it can be used on Quick or Art too 3rd skill is rlly literally makes every np op af

@6ToesHeACreature

Жыл бұрын

True and doing 90++ without him is pretty much impossible.

38:38 The triple Rin is appreciated. My Rin's are all ready to stomp me with their buster buffed feet.

As a support, is NP1 koyanskaya enough?

@skipwith5020

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Why KoyanskAya instead of KoYAnskaya tho?

as person lucky enough to use K(L)K(D)K(L)O system on F2P, yes, this graph is accurate

Just keeping my SQ until I reach enough to get pity on Koyanskaya. No way I'm gonna miss her, not only I like her but many buster waifu need her too~~

Should I skip Summer Okita and Summer Kama and save for Kuku and Arcueid? The LB6 Banners killed me and Oberon is going to overkill me.

@86Fallowcp

Жыл бұрын

You are still a year away man, do what you like the most, not just meta

@Sleepyduo38

Жыл бұрын

@@86Fallowcp Oberon was nice to me, I got him quick, but right now, I am a little burned out from the summoning.

Can we all take a moment to clap our hands for the man who wrote Kk Kko Koo But then avoided using "kkk" for triple koyanskaya 🤣🤣🤣

Give my mama Raikou zerker her deserved charge!

You forgot about Nursery Rhyme

There is a unit with 50% charge on a 5 turn CD It's Sherlock Holmes.

No koyanless team?

I was lucky. I got her in 6 ticks. Now i got 800 for oberon

No Gorgon shenanigans for me, :(

I'm just ready to no longer neglect some of my busters lol

KK = 2 Koyans KKO = 2 Koyan, 1 Oberon KOO = 1 Koyan, 2 Oberon So tell me... What is 3 Koyan abbreviated then? Hmmmmmmmm?