... and now, as Dickens wrote, "the Founder of the feast", himself!

Recorded on a Welte piano 1905 or 1907.

@amelsellami

5 жыл бұрын

1915

wow, this is some kind of performance. usually the pianists play the Bach/Busoni Chaconne all legato-y and with lots of pedal and it loses a lot of the sharpness that violinists get out of it. Always interesting to hear how the performances change over time; no one plays it like this now.

@samdaesoo

2 жыл бұрын

Kissin

I understand that Busoni was associated with with the development of the Bosendorfers with the extra keys( motivated in part by the playing of Bach organ transcriptions).

What a depht...I heard so many many many performances of chacona...But nothing is like this...Thank you so much

@Physicks499

8 жыл бұрын

he is the original guy to transpose it

@marcolizzo90

3 жыл бұрын

i don't know if you did already, if not check out michelangeli's version

Many different ideas can be put forward on this work from many different angles. Maestro Busoni fully reflects the old fashioned understanding of romantic interpretation. However, I must say that I find it very interesting that he turns to ossias in some episodes. The free approach to tempo understanding is particularly interesting. Personally, I think Kissin's interpretation is phenomenal. Especially in terms of tempo approach and color scale between variations. But the unique interpretation of Shura Cherkassky cannot be overlooked either. Thank you so much for this rare recording.

This is such a beautiful ethereal yet grounded piece of music and the performer captures the listener so well.

Impressive work, impressive transcription, impressive performance. Thank you for sharing.

Génial ! The best.

I am sure that Bach is mightily pleased with this amazing tribute to Bach’s wonderful work.

arrau once said that busoni might be probably the greatest interpreter since liszt. listening to this i must agree!

@iianneill6013

4 жыл бұрын

He must have forgotten Anton Rubinstein in that moment.

@Piflaser

4 жыл бұрын

@@iianneill6013 Nobody knows, he is not documented on disc.

@iianneill6013

4 жыл бұрын

@@Piflaser He is documented in the assessments of Joseph Hoffman, Alexander Siloti and others, and that is enough for me.

@Piflaser

4 жыл бұрын

@@iianneill6013 But listening is something different.

@wannabecat369

10 ай бұрын

​@@PiflaserFyi it is generally agreed that Busoni's rolls and most especially his discs are a poor representation of his greatness.

what a dazzling performance.. peak of musicality...

Holy God ! By far the best version is Busoni playing Busoni, coming from someone who heard it played in recital many times and also heard all versions on youtube including Rubins., Bermann, Chura Cherkassy, Grimault, Michelangelo, Maria Tipo. They all come short on some levels. Even tough this is a piano roll, I highly regard the Rachmaninoff piano rolls. And what is stunning this Busoni roll captured his bravoura virtuoso style. Rubinst sounds like a child playing the piece, lacking in depth and imagination. and bravoura ! Busoni is so much more expressive and no doubt a superior virtuoso by far. And I say this knowing Rubinstein discography extensively.

@goognamgoognw6637

8 жыл бұрын

Dinara Johansen Alice de la rocha ? i guess not. Why use acronyms.

@IfimwritingYouAreWrong

7 жыл бұрын

+Jake Kazama - So because you've played this piece, your opinion is Rubinstein's recording is awful? Shall I remember Jake Kazama as one of the greatest pianists of the 20th or 21st century. What's 'god awful' is peoples opinions on a lot of classical pieces. What you'll find is all pianists bring something different to the audience , AS IT SHOULD BE. And +Goognam goognws, I was lucky, while studying at RCM, London, to work in Classical Section in Oxford Circus which has all the recordings created and each pianist has a different quality hence why you will find them in the GREATEST 20th Century aisle.

@raymondgood2359

6 жыл бұрын

russell, i have never heard a rubinstein recording that was anything but perfect. he was surely the great pianist of the 20th century!

@Bulbophile

6 жыл бұрын

All I hear now in Rubinst's recording's is "Attitude"; an attitude of superiority to even the French, and the French already have one of the same. Some unfortunate quote-on-quote's avail on youtube of Rubin's comments toward his audiences, and how little they understood. No thanks. Hind-sight/audition: 20-20.

@allenspencer6434

6 жыл бұрын

I agree This Is awesome

I also prefer contemporaries' performances of this. Regardless, Busoni bestowed on us one of the greatest of all piano transcriptions. He is a genius.

@dharmaboyN7

2 ай бұрын

As was the one who wrote the original piece before him - J.S. Bach.

wonderfull~

Questa esecuzione comunque non avrà mai nulla da invidiare a quelle successive , meravigliose ed emozianti come è quella di Michelangeli, poiché Feruccio Busoni con la sua interpretazione esalta in modo autentico la spiritualità e la spontaneità di un Bach !!! ( Ho umilmente aggiunto un sincero commento in ... lingua italiana, mosca bianca rispetto alla miriade ed apprezzati commenti che arrivano dal resto dell'Europa e del Mondo. Forse gli Italiani apprezzano maggiormente le Partite di Calcio, piuttosto che le Ciaccone di Bach !!! )

@alessandrovaccari782

2 жыл бұрын

... e invece no, caro omonimo! Non tutti perlomeno o non tutti gli altri Alessandro. Approfitto di questa connazionalità in luoghi foresti per una domanda. E' oggi parere diffuso che la scuola romantica abbia inquinato la prassi interpretativa del barocco, classicismo e musica antica in generale. Qualcosa di vero senza dubbio c'è perché il meglio della filologia ci concede oggigiorno dei veri e propri viaggi nel tempo, ammesso che anche gli studiosi del settore non abbiano preso un sonoro abbaglio, ma diciamo di poterci fidare in larga misura. Quello che però non mi torna è come possiamo essere più vicini noi stilisticamente alla musica di quelle epoche rispetto ai romantici che lo erano in termini temporali e per certi versi molto più simili ai loro antenati di appena due o tre generazioni prima nelle categorie di pensiero e nello stile di vita. I cambi di stile nell'arte avvengono tramite processi lenti e non sempre decifrabili e tutto il passaggio accade impercettibilmente tra il riecheggiare di estetiche consolidate che lasciano pian piano il posto all'affiorare di nuove sensibilità. Un po' nella logica della zona di sviluppo prossimale di vigotskyiana memoria costruttivista. Siamo noi che nella peggiori delle intonacate culturali organizziamo il procedere del sapere in forme didascaliche e asettiche, pena proprio la possibilità di nuovi sbocchi interpretativi e un più divertente e creativo gioco di approcci. Nel 2022 dovremmo concederci il diritto di uscire dalla logica delle rigidità storiciste (a patto di non fare guazzabugli per davvero indigesti), ma per tornare al punto, mi stupirebbe molto che non sia esistita per tutto il romanticismo (e la stessa logica potrebbe valere dal Rinascimento, o ancor prima in poi) una tradizione interpretativa "purista" parallela alla pratica interpretativa della storiografia ufficiale, perché non possiamo giustificare tutto tirando in ballo la Bach reinassance apportata da Mendelssohn per poi consegnare il lavoro di ricostruzione della pratica concreta a bibliofili che hanno estrapolato da manoscritti e stampe di archetti un'idea di cavata, di timbrica, metronomo, ripieno, ecc... Se Bart►k girò le campagne dell'Ungheria e della Romania rurali con in spalla un magnetofono, bisogna che oltre alla testimonianza dei documenti scritti ci sia stata qualche fonte sonora tramandata a cui appigliarsi (gente che suonasse "in stile"), sennò resterei personalmente costernato nel pensare che l''800 e i primi del '900 abbiano volutamente dimenticato una certa pratica stilistica, tenuto poi conto che un maestro di musica di quelle epoche instillava negli allievi un timor sacro per gli autori del passato. Se così fosse la filologia più moderna (che, ci tengo a precisare, può fallire: certe esecuzioni filologiche sono di una noia e sterilità abissali: mille volte meglio allora un romanticissimo Heifetz o Michelangeli), avendo fatto tutto dal solo dato teorico avrebbe un merito incommensurabile. Del resto la filologia oggi si è spinta fino alla musica antichissima, dal coro dell'Orestea all'epopea di Gilgamesh e con esiti di una suggestività da togliere il fiato. La saluto, mi dia un'opinione se le va.

100년을 훌쩍넘은 연주라는게 믿어지나요 헉ㄲㄱ 깜놀 감탄

" To Play Without Emotion is Unforgiveable !" Busoni achieved its pinnacle

Comincio a temere che si possano far rivivere i dinosauri. Non so cosa andate blaterando: chiunque sia il pianista l'intepretazione è stupefacente. Sembra a tratti di vedere i movimenti dell'archetto sulle doppie corde. Se poi si tratti davvero di un rullo rielaborato di Ferruccio Busoni, allora, l'unico che in Italia può chiarirci l'arcano è Piero Rattalino

Well, it's just probably the greatest transcription in the history of Music !!

My goodness!!! How did you ever find it?? I have been reared on my dear departed friend Alicia de Larrocha's performance for years -- and this performance matches hers in instensity. Thank you very much for posting it!

What is this--a recording of a piano roll? Love it. Thanks for posting.

Historical document

it is Busoni. Piano roll

Could anybody tell me on which edition i can find this version please?

musicos y virtuosos...ambas cosas Aunque, en verdad la tecnica no es un fin en si mismo, simplemente es una herramienta que debe servir para hacer musica...

Ma possiamo veramente sospettare che non sia , al piano, lo stesso Busoni ? Esecuzione così chiara, spontanea e personale , fatta non coi piedi (nel senso che quasi non tocca i pedali) bensì grazie a mani potenti ed espressive, fedele ai tempi ed agli strumenti di Bach .

@filippeo85 I want to know do you have the whole detail about this CD's from Busoni's playing?

@1Thompsonmusic What do you mean?

I must say, the roll technology became very sophistcated at last....better than the upcoming modern recording technology as it was in those days..

This is a Duo-Art recording.

@fredericfranc Egad! Pretty soon we'll be the servants...TO THE MACHINES!

Perdonate la mia ignoranza, ma qualcuno può spiegarmi in che modo vengono ricostruite le esecuzioni di Busoni?

@bachopinbee5991

4 жыл бұрын

La tecnologia e dei Piano rolls

It's an approximation... It's not to be listened as a concert or a normal recording, but as the testimony of another era, like a museum piece maybe

no is not.I have whole cd

Busoni recorded for Duo-art

Busoni no era virtuoso?? Busoni tuvo una técnica y una musicalidad impresionantes, ningún pianista de hoy en día le pisa los tobillos, más que nada en cuanto a técnica se refiere...esa generación de músicos (no solo pianistas, sino también violinistas, por ej) está casi a años luz de distancia de lo que son los músicos actuales (sin desmerecerlos, hay muchos músicos excelentes, pero ninguno iguala esa generación de virtuosos)

Cuanto más escucho, me convence que Argerich posee técnica la más impresionante que otro pianista. Pero la falta a veces mucho en terminos de musicalidad y expresión.

this his Busoni hisself ??

There seems to be a lot of implications. It makes me feel emotional..

There are recordings by past masters that were made directly to wax disks, and primitive wire recorders. They are noisy and suffer from compressed dynamics. Piano rolls can be played on real pianos for contemporary recording techniques, so their sound is far superior. What I don't understand is how a bunch of holes in paper can replicate dynamics. Can anybody explain this to me?

@Bulbophile

6 жыл бұрын

Yes please do.

@Sincebrassnorstone

2 жыл бұрын

The technology involved electric current, carbon rods under the keys and I believe a trough of mercury as well. When Welte Mignon rolls were released on LP in the 60s there was a really cool booklet explaining it. That's as best as I can recall it🙏🎶❤🌳

@CamhiRichard

4 ай бұрын

In addition to the 88 rows of holes for each key, my understanding is that there were holes that responded to the velocity of the keys being pressed. In other words, each key was fitted with two contacts -- one for when the key began to be moved, and one for when it made contact with the base. The difference in time between those two points gave the speed with which the key was pressed, therefore how strongly the note sounded. I believe that this speed was recorded horizontally: say, soft was a hole punched on the left side, and loud was punched on the right side, and everything between was varied between those two spots.

Yes, I prefer Michelangeli's version too. Busoni's version is not clean in some parts, for me. Michelangeli's version is clean from the beginning to the end.

@DonAnzalone WOW, I mean I'm glad we have piano rolls of great musicians but, to say they include all dynamic nuances clearly is a HUGE overstament...

Seguramente es un sonido remasterizado si es que pertenece a Bussoni. Se oye demasiado excelente para ser verídica esta versión de la mano de Bussoni, porque ese sonido ni siquiera parece pertenecer a un piano forte. Deberían aclarar bien el año de grabado y el piano utilizado. Bussoni plays Bach me suena a equivocación; de todas maneras me resulta una excelente ejecución. No quiero fallar pero a Bussoni le deberíamos las transcripciones de Bach desde el clave al piano. Lo que no es poco.

@creightonwest6632

8 жыл бұрын

+Carmelo Hugo Pedace Here is some information from the vendor. Sorry, I read but do not write Spanish very well. Grand Piano is a series devoted to the art of the Reproducing Piano. It presents major performances by the legendary pianists who recorded for the Aeolian Company between 1915 and 1930. The acoustic gramophone rarely attempted major keyboard works. The 78s' restricted sound and duration was acceptable for short virtuoso pieces but little else. In contrast, by 1915, the Aeolian Company's "Duo-Art" was already a highly sophisticated digital recording process. Pianists, well aware of the gramophone's limitations, turned enthusiastically to the reproducing piano. Hofmann, Bauer, Paderewski and Grainger were especially committed, not alone in believing that they had achieved the ultimate recording process. Great pianists joined them in recording their concert repertoire, including much that was never repeated on disc. The reproducing piano was a tragic victim of the devastated economy of 1930's America. It disappeared, not because it was inadequate, but, because it was expensive. The pianist's faith in the reproducing piano remained overwhelming; one of the most exciting musical inventions of our age.

His acoustic recordings are actually amazing... this, not so much.

@d.b.8650

10 жыл бұрын

tomorrow I upload Bach playing Bach. couldnt wait to read the comments "unbeliavable" "is really him?"

@haotianyu6368

10 жыл бұрын

Well, it is not so fake as being "actually" fake.

@haotianyu6368

10 жыл бұрын

Do you know what the piano roll is? There are many rolls by Busoni: this is one of them. " but also meticulously analyses a piano roll in great depth on which Busoni himself can be heard..." (source: G. Henle preface to Hamelin fingered edition of this piece; if you didn't know, Henle is the most accurate urtext around).

agree ashish. this recording is not good, its bad my opinion of busoni's performance: collapse.

@fredericfrancoischopin6971

8 ай бұрын

Please shut, you exactly dont know what are you talking about. Busoni is the one of greatest pianists ever lived on earth. Also this is a piano roll, are you know?

Busoni died in 1924. I'm sure it's not Busoni we hear playing here!

@GUILLOM

8 ай бұрын

It's busoni

Heard first bit and I disagree. I don't like the way he cuts chords off

Weird rendition; what is this? I am talking about the music score itself, not the reproduction from the piano rolls.

Check out also these brilliant performances by Andrew Gu: kzread.info/dash/bejne/poKkrMWYlMzfe5s.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4dtsLqMg5vNaco.html

Yes, it's very interesting to hear the Busoni himself playing the Chaccone, but this is not the best perfomance of the Bach/Busoni Chaccone I've ever heard, I sure about that.

Good but Kissen is still the best version

The recording is far too modern for Busoni's years.

@brendanhall3265

9 жыл бұрын

Lar M Piano Roll

@user-cs2se7th6q

8 жыл бұрын

Is this really Busoni or it's someone else's performance?

@user-cs2se7th6q

8 жыл бұрын

Sorry for my grammar(If there's grammar mistake)

@canman5060

8 жыл бұрын

Ah. I almost forgotten about this.Thanks.

@canman5060

8 жыл бұрын

It is a piano roll done in Busoni's time.Popular in those days.

i still like michelangeli much more than this.. sorry busoni..

@Ianthe22

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. But still this roll is very interesting. It shows some of the thoughts behind why certain sections of the piece were written the way it was. There are quite some surprises in between here. I am truly surprised by this one. It's very different from some of his other transcriptions. He put far more liberal about his own influence in the piece than i would have imagined.

He uses a lot of "tricks" (sudden accelarations, exaggerated emphasis,...), which I don't like too much.

aaargh I don't like this version!

Such erratic rhythms and dynamics. Must have been drunk.

@Physicks499

8 жыл бұрын

or an inept genius

@user-gu3iy1vl9u

8 жыл бұрын

it's piano roll, that's why his playing is probably not authentic here.

@Bulbophile

6 жыл бұрын

cute comment; those flourishes though probably make for Busoni. They probably also made for Chopin, though we all play it like clockwork (today).

@SJM1977

5 жыл бұрын

Or double dotting? perchance. Rubato in other cases. The composer, who was a superb virtuoso performing his own composition, which is tremendously difficult to perform was not better placed to decide these issues than you. Hmmm.

@WEEBLLOM

8 ай бұрын

​@@SJM1977perchance.

This sounds terrible. I find it hard to believe that the piano roll accurately represents Busoni's playing.

I personally hate this version, I think it's completely anti-bach