It somehow never occurs to a lot of people that the dead were living breathing humans with self-preservation, who squirm, turn, crawl, writhe and shift around in their last moments, not just anatomical crash dummies, sitting or standing still.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

There is a lot of footage showing such behaviour by human beings, but youtube classified it as 18+

@no-barknoonan8798

Ай бұрын

Some people do just drop like a rock depending on the severity of trauma on the CNS.

@BrownEyePinch

Ай бұрын

You seriously made that statement? Wow

@TheGodParticle

Ай бұрын

There not dead, there still alive but in a different time.

@ObsidianFrog

Ай бұрын

Between August 10th,1939 andSeptember 6th, 1939, the PolishBolsheviks killed over 56,000 German nationals in the Danzig Corridor. This was carried out by the Polish and RussianJewish ledNKVD. The Danzig/Bromberg massacres were protested by Germany to the ' League of Nations ' DOZENS OF TIMES, to no avail....☠️☠️..... " On February 29, 1944 the ' British Ministry of lnformation ' sent the following note to the higher British Clergy and to the BBC. ........Sir, l am directed by the Ministry to send you the following circular letter : It is often the duty of the good citizens and of the pious Christians to turn a blind eye on the peculiarities of those associated with us. But the time comes when such peculiarities, while still denied in public, must be taken into account when action by us is called for. We know the methods of rule employed by theBolshevik dictator in Russia itself from, for example, the writings and speaches of the Prime Minister himself during the last twenty years. We know how theRedArmy behaved in Poland in 1920 and in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Galicia, and Bessarabia only recently. We must, therefore, take into account how theRedArmy will certainly behave when it overruns Central Europe. Unless precautions are taken, the obviously inevitable horrors which will result will throw an undue stain in public opinion in this country. We cannot reform theBolsheviks but we can do our best to save them - and ourselves - from the consequences of their acts. The disclosures of the quarter of a century will render mere denials unconvincing. The only alternative to denial is to distract public attention from the whole subject. Experience has shown that the best distraction in is ' Atrocity Propaganda ' directed against the enemy. Unfortunately the public is no longer so susceptible as in the days of the " Corps Factory ", the " Mutilated Belgian Babies " and the " Crucified Canadians ". Your cooperation is therefore earnestly sought to distract public attention from the doings of theRedArmy by your wholehearted support of various charges against the Germans and Japanese which have been and will be put into circulation by the Ministry. Your expression of belief in such may convince others. I am, Sir, Your obediant servant ( Signed ) H.HEWET, Assistant secretary. The Ministry can enter into no correspondence of any kind with regard to this communication which should only be disclosed to responsible persons. " - pages 209-210, ' Allied Wartime Diplomacy ' by Edward J. Rozek. ☠️☠️ ......ATROCITY PROPAGANDA - " Atrocity propaganda is how we won the war. And we're only really beginning with it now ! We will continue this atrocity propaganda, we will escalate it until nobody will accept even a good word from the Germans, until all the sympathy they may still have abroad will have been destroyed and they themselves will be so confused that they will no longer know what they are doing. Once that has been achieved, once they begin to run down their own country and their own people, not reluctantly but with eagerness to please the victors, only then will our victory be complete. IT WILL NEVER BE FINAL. Re-education needs careful tending, like an English lawn. Even one moment of negligence, and the weeds crop up again - those indestructible weeds of historical TRUTH. " - SeftonDalmer (1904-1979), former British Chief of ' Black Propaganda ': Said after the German surrender in 1945 in a conversation with the German Professor of lnternational Law Dr.FriedrichGrimm. ☠️☠️☠️........ " Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks, we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value forJews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for usJews. Wars are theJews' Harvest, The Jewbanks grow fat on Christian wars. Over 100-million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet." - rabbiReichorn, speaking at funeral of Grand rabbiSimeon Ben-Judah, France, 1869.☠️☠️ christiansfortruth.com/post-war-u-s-occupying-forces-believed-germany-justified-in-war-and-hitler-served-his-country-constructively

Reasoned analysis, can at times, lead to an inconclusive outcome. Some people can't accept this. Thanks for posting.

one of the best channels that shows respect to the war dead, and the horrors of war..thankyou for your efforts...

One thing ive discovered having a channel of similar size is that everyone on youtube is an expert. And they LOVE correcting the channel owner because it strokes their ego.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Recorrecting them strokes my ego as well 😆

Words can’t express the gratitude I have for your videos.

I was shot by an attacker in 1982. I was missed point blank 3 times and hit twice. I tripped over a box and fell backwards onto the box. I was trying to raise up in an attempt to defend myself. My attacker aimed at my groin and missed, hitting me in my left upper thigh. This was a deep flesh wound on the top of my leg resembling a large spoon scoping away a chunk of my leg. (I never felt it) The fifth and final bullet hit me in the neck. The .44 Special hollow point bullet went through my right shirt. Collar destroyed my first and second thoracic vertebrae and came to a stop subcutaneously just below my left scapula in the back. I didn't hear the shot but the impact put me down like a freight train. When early bled to death. But God had other plans. I'm paralyzed and use a wheelchair but that hasn't stopped me from living my life.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

I was born in 1982

"You're only truly educated once you've understood how ignorant you are" is a quote that has served me well ever since I have heard it said by Christopher Hitchens.

Your videos are always very educational. I really enjoy them. Thanks!

Back in the 60s I spent a summer in saipan. As kids will do, we went adventuring in the jungles. In a spot not far from roads we found live artillery shell and rows and rows of american helmets all stacked in rows. All were rusted but it took me a bit to realize that almost all of them had bullet holes in them. Or shrapnel holes. Anyway this kinda freaked me out so we left. We reported the shells to the police.

Exactly. Excellent analysis, and your point holds true for so many of the issues one faces in life.

I had a professor who said that universities should first give degrees in Thinking. Once that was achieved, one could go on to specialize. This channel, and in particular this video, demonstrates the value of thinking. Jean Loup's process in analyzing the available evidence and data is very deliberate and well executed. I am an elementary school teacher. I tell my kids all the time that learning is not about memorizing facts so much as it is knowing how to apply them. Well done Sir!!

@angelmessenger8240

Ай бұрын

Schools tell you what to think, not how to think. There should be classes in critical thinking.

@johnlorrieboskovic2836

Ай бұрын

@@angelmessenger8240 There are these things called Philosophy classes, which many universities have either minimized or eliminated in the mad rush to crank out more MBA's without any "needless additional course work."

Fantastic video. I hope the armchair experts understand your simple and straight forward explanation. Yet another reason why I subscribed to this channel some time ago.

Awesome video as always Jean-Loup. A lot of well presented points on a very interesting subject. Can’t wait for more. 😊

Very interesting. The JFK reference was helpful.

great content, still so many unanswered situations that we will never know, so thank you for your judgement and knowledge.

Mark Twain: "People do a lot of feeling, and confuse it with thinking." AKA Samuel Clemens

A gruesome but at the same time thought provoking and very interesting subject...and as you said , people in crime scene work have to know what they are doing. I love the 'Dunning Kruger' graph....I feel I'm cultured bordering on ignorant!😅😅. Funny thing is I know a lot of people who are ignorant and know everything but in reality know nothing. The amount of times I've fell into conversation with someone who has watched a couple of documentaries on ww2 and they've told me that 'XY & Z' are 100% true...where myself I realise that a subject should be approached from different angles, yes watch a documentary, but watch a few different ones from various sources, read several books on the subject, visit a museum ....and then maybe you can have an appreciation of the subject at hand, but not an expert. I reckon I could live another 100 years and not know it all. I have to agree with your thoughts on living ones life recognising the 'Dunning Kruger' effect......cheers Jean-Loup, another great video😊😊😊😊

Thanks for putting out there the range of possibilities, this of course has aspects that could be used in many other scenarios, not just in battlefield casualties..

Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo, vos explications sont logiques et très intéressantes. Bonne continuation et à bientôt.

Hello Crocodile, if you make a aimed shot in e greater distance, the Bullet always will come from above, because the Flypath of the Bullet. Ich schreibe dir das jetzt noch auf deutsch, als (West)Schweizer hoffe ich, dass du dies lesen kannst, es ist eine wichtige Erklärung: Wenn man einen Distanzschuss abgibt, wird das Geschoss immer mehr oder weniger (abhängig von der Schiessdistanz) von oben nach unten im Ziel einschlagen, wegen der gekrümmtem Flugbahn, hervorgerufen durch die Erdanziehung. Man muss ja dessen Flugbahn wegen der Erdanziehung und dem Absinken des Geschosses erhöhen. Auch wenn der beschossene gerade dasteht, wird das Geschoss bei einem Distanzschuss tiefer aus, als eintreten. Ich verfolge deine Beiträge immer mit grossem Interesse. Bravo! Gruss aus dem Solothurnischen.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Indeed. Considering this went through the head and both sides of the helmet, I dont think it was fired from very far though, which is logical for an urban environment.

@71TOXIC

Ай бұрын

@@CrocodileTear lets take the Cartridge 30-06, the US one in WWII, at 300m the Velocity is still ca. 670m/s (147grain FMJ bullet with 890m/s V0) the drop is almost 40cm at 300m. So you have to aim that much higher and this becomes an angle who fit very good with the damage pattern of the helmet. the 670 m/s with the full metall jacket bullet are enough to penetrate the helmet and skull (the russian 7.62x54R is very similar, also the British .303 Rifle round). the exit mark on the helmet shows, that the bullet flight sideways with not much remaining speed to be expected a this range. Ich mag diese Diskussion, und will auf keinen Fall Klugscheissen, es ist ja eigentlich egal, da, wie du sagst, zu viele Details der Situation und Position damals offen bleiben. Als Büchsenmacher liegen mir solche Themen halt einfach auch. Die Durchschlagskraft der verwendeten Patronen ist auf alle Fälle sehr hoch. Auf 10m Vermögen diese Geschosse 10mm Vollstahl (St37) zu durchschlagen, das habe ich selbst mit der 7.5x55 geschossen.

@CrocodileTearenFrancais-cg9np

Ай бұрын

@@71TOXIC I dont think a 40 cm drop in 300 meters gives such a steep angle as what is seen on the helmet (assuming the helmet is horizontal, etc, of course.)

I am a true friend of your channel. absolutely fascinating content and I share your enthusiasm. I always look forward to the next video. Many thanks and greetings from Germany

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Vielen Danke

I love your channel and videos. You are one of the very small channels that i look forward to every upload.

Always an Outstanding video and presentation.

Another fantastic contribution to help us understand such matters...please keep your hard work going..imparting your superb archaeological knowledge to us mere mortals...

You make it so easy to understand, bravo!

This was again very informative man. Please make videos more often. thanks

Your Videos and your content is always fantastic…. Thanks you so much Christoph

Outstanding as always. Thank you so much for the knowledge and insight you share with us.

Another great and informative presentation - keep it up.

Interesting as always, Jean-Loup - much obliged.

Always an outstanding video and presentation.

Very interesting, thank you. Love your videos, keep up the good work 👏

Great video appreciate your forensic take on battlefield wounds

Another possibility that wasn't explored in the video is that his helmet may not have been sitting on his head perfectly on his head. If it was crooked that would also change the interpretation.

One of your best videos yet! I assume you have copies of Knight's & de Maio.

Another great video. Thank you for amazing work

Once again, another great video.

This would be a great lecture from a visiting professor/presenter. When I was young, I remember my friends at school debating the assassination of Pres. Kennedy. We didn't know much, so we were all certain we knew the truth. Our argument was on the final shot: was it from the front or the rear? I was sure it came from the front because "common sense" says if I smack that cup from the front it will fall back. As the years went by, I kept reading, watching documentaries, and listening. I saw diagrams like this to show how a bullet from the rear did indeed cause the President's head to snap back as the bullet exited. No matter how much I experience for myself, and how much I learn, I am still amazed at how much damage a small piece of metal can make.

Excellent explanations.

Thank you, very informative and enlightening piece of science.

Excellent, comme d'habitude

Well explained. Convinced.

Excellent work as always sir. Cheers!

Another excellent video, thanks.

Excellent video, thanks for the information.

Awesome video, as always

Brilliant. Thank you. A south african fan.

Fascinating subject, well thought through and explained. The only sure fire conclusion is that he was shot from the right hand side. Having experienced incoming small arms fire I can say that there is a tendency to hunch the shoulder and tilt the head towards the direction the fire is coming from. He may well have had is head canted to the right explaining the lower exit damage to his helmet.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Unless perhaps he wore his helmet backwards like a rap star?

Very informative! Many things to consider when deciding what happens

Thanks CT, really interesting info!!!

Also don’t forget to factor in ballistic trajectory as in bullets travel in an arch not a straight line like a laser. With that being said a bullet fired from a long distance will be traveling at a downward angle at impact. So that is another consideration to debunk the shot from above theory. Just one more component to a very complicated forensic analysis. Also thank you for your work on this channel. Very informative and interesting to see this subject matter from an outside of the USA standpoint.

@kirotheavenger60

Ай бұрын

The descent angle on ballistics is pretty negligible. *especially* for WW2 where you had fairly high velocity weaponary but fairly rudimentary sight/targetting systems still. The descent angle even at 2km is only a few degrees, completely negligible for this sort of work.

Great video, as always.

Survivorship bias, a really cool concept 12:00

@The1nsane1

Ай бұрын

Or in this case, non-survivor bias. Same thing, different view point.

Because helmet glad you could find out all the information on it

I agree with your assessment. Its clear that Kurt was not shot from an elevated position, but rather when his head was bent over, likely as he was looking down to reload his weapon.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

I hope this is said tongue in cheek?

well said my friend,, great video

Love it, you can hear the sarcasm in every word. I never accept facts from anyone who wasn't there. Well done, you've made my day 👍🏼

For some reason people have this wrong image, that snipers are up in a tower with a scoped rifle taking out random soldiers with one shot. In reality the sniper that you will encounter is some dude with a machine gun hiding in a foxhole or basement hosing down the street.

Brilliant analysis. The lessons from this could be applied to various present day things, as you suggested.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

This is basic info that is applied every day at crime scenes. But in CSI, unlike in reality, everything is solved at first glance, giving laymen the impression that everything is easy.

Outstanding study. Thank you.

Another point is that generally snipers will shoot for torso, since it is much bigger target than head. Snipers going for headshots is entertainment shenanigans. Even now in Ukraine with body armor snipers go for body shots.

@No_Way_NO_WAY

Ай бұрын

Depends on distance, angle and skill. What you say is certainly true for soldiers trained in that role, but in the case of Kurt Günther it was French partisans in a street fight (20-100m). Probably with the advantage of an ambush or at least stealth. It is even possible the shooter aimed for the torso but hit the head instead.

Correct. The more you know, the more you realize you don't know.

@stuartgmk

Ай бұрын

👍

Excellent video!!!

This is really good, I’ve just written a piece on my facebook page about the “snipers” at la Fiere, the same sniper, was killed by three different groups, the interesting thing is the definition of a sniper, basically any one who shoots an opponent from cover or a concealed position , that person could be deemed as a sniper, even if he didn’t have a scope. The thing is, so many people were said to have been shot by snipers during this engagement, you’d assume that there were snipers everywhere. However, the fact is Snipers, even in the German army, whilst there were certainly more in the German infantry, than in the Airborne Units at Normandy were specialists and rare,it is highly unlikely within the 25 or so Germans who initially were defending La Fiere, there was ever more than 1. However, based on the topography, the men who were targeted and where they were shot on the battlefield, i believe I have narrowed down where he was and who actually killed him, in the end. In saying that, it’s my best guess based on all the statements given by soldiers after the battle, that this is what may have happened. , At la Fiere in the morning, whilst the Germans soldiers were defending the eastern bridge head and the Manor buildings, there were Airborne soldiers at Cauquigny Church, who were shooting at what they thought were Germans on the eastern bank, why couldn’t they tell one for another, well again the sun has allot to do with that, in the morning the side of the soldiers that the American’s on the West Bank could see would have been in shadow, making them impossible to tell one from the other with the naked eye. They also believed that the Manor was not defended, hence they may well have assumed the Paratroopers were the ones defending La Fiere, however, the simple truth is, one of the officers Leevy had to intervene to stop them, it’s distinctly possible that some of the casualties were actually victims of friendly fire.. however, we will never know for sure.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

From my experience interviewing WWII veterans, a sniper was anybody firing from a concealed position as you say, and in fact veterans talked about Germans sniping at them with submachine guns, etc. Probably only 1 in a 100 of these "snipers" was a trained sniper with a scope in the modern sence of the word. By definition when you are shot from a concealed position, you dont know who shot you.

I always look forward and enjoy your videos although the subject is somewhat disturbing? I find it fascinating very well done another fine job

I´ve once read that snipers in WWII actually avioded headshots because upper torso provides a bigger more static target therefore easier to aim at.

At 11:22 the numbers are derived from 104 autopsies. That is a quite small sample to derive some reliable statistics but it is indeed likely enough to confirm that this "rough" statistical analysis on fatal wounds doesn't follow the surface rules thus confirming your point. This is a great example of the survivor bias!!! Encore merci pour cette nouvelle excellente vidéo !

very interesting video, thanks.

Amazing video!!

It mostly varies depending on the moon phase and the day of the week.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

The tide indeed has a heavy influence on a bullet's trajectory.

Im a great fan of youre videos, saving to order youre book 👍👍

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Thank you

very well explained

Very interesting video. Without all the information its at best a stab in the dark. There really are so many scenarios that without eyes on evidence its a guess. 👍👍

I've always assumed the Dunning-Kruger effect had a few prerequisites involving things like basic logic and common sense in order to apply. If an adult sticks a fork in an electrical socket, is that the Dunning-Kruger effect or just plain stupid? Anyway, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but while we're talking about bullet trajectory.... The angle of target entry for a 30-06 for example would be around 10 degrees at something like 200 yards, or up to 3 or 4 times that angle at max range. The red arrow through Kurt Günther's helmet looks like about 10 degrees to me. Also can a bullet alter course as it passes through helmet, bone, and brain material? As mentioned in referenced video, yes. Is it possible the helmet started to move in relation to his head after entry but before exit? I don't know, but it seems logical and the angles make sense with this one (push on entry side, helmet goes up on opposite side).

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Everything you mention adds even more unknown to this, and underlines the fact that no quick, easy and sweeping conclusions can be drawn.

Great video, thank You.

We could use Occam's Razor to reduce the number of assumptions in order to figure out exactly what happened when the German soldier was shot through his helmet.

very good video. thanks

Bullets also don't fly straight after penetrating soft or hard material. They can be deflected in the head or even by the helmet to take on different angles or trajectory.

Regarding the trajectory for the helmet of Kurt Günther: There is one important question to narrow down the position of the killer: Was he the first victim in an ambush or was the firefight already going. If I remember correctly the documents talked about an "Attentäter" or "Heckenschütze" and if he was the only casualty, it is likely he was hit from stealth and likely from an elevated position. But as you said, it is all speculation and with the limited knowledge about the incident, it will likely never be more than that.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

The period docs says something like "shot in the head by Terrorists". He is the only guy of his unit t have been buried at that location on that day.

@No_Way_NO_WAY

Ай бұрын

@@CrocodileTear Thx for clarifying the wording in the report. With that sentence and information all could be possible. Unsuspected close range attack, sniped from a window, died in a firefight while ducking behind some cover, etc etc. At least his comrades were more lucky that day.

Good one JL, very good one 😉

Excellent!

War seems like a romantic endeavour until you start to learn about the miserable deaths of the participants. When I was a kid our school would take the kids on a trip to the graveyards and battle sites of WWI trenches in France. It taught us all a valuable lesson in sacrifice, humility and the severe costs of war.

You going to do the Luminal on that helmet with the blood in it you have???

The suture lined don’t look closed and are still somewhat open. Guess this mean he was pretty young. The head doesn’t look very big.

Correct Hypothesis! The soldier could only have been shot from a higher place if he was standing bolt upright looking ahead, front and centre! Now what are the chances of that? In actual fact the soldier's head could have been in any position, there is no definitive answer to the path of trajectory. Hell, he could've been shot whilst kneeling down and looking up meaning he got shot by a guy who was lying down!

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Well, if you read the pathological liar Sven Hassel's versions of the war, a German soldier was as hard as Krupp steel and only had to look straight ahead. This is solide evidence that Kurt was shot by a sniper.

amazing. thank you.

I'm not an expert, but for a bullet to penetrate the top of a helmet and the top of the head, it would have to be at minimum a rifle at best a sniper rifle at the limit of there effect range and not exit the skull. A sub machine gun with a low velocity shell like a 45 caliber would have to be at point blank range to have any hope of penetrating a WW2 steel curved helmet.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

I agree this is damage by a rifle type bullet.

Thank you sir!!!!

12:20 also in combat, sometimes all you can see is the head because they are peeking and such. So since all you can see is the head, then that's what gets hit.

There is that famous footage of the wounded german laying in the street in Paris with several bullet impacts around him and he is killed...a women rushes up and grabs his rifle...he was at ground level....

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

I had that footage in one of my videos, but it fell victim to youtube community guidelines sniping.

I'm pretty sure the soldiers recollection of the hated officer "being shot from behind" was inferring that he was shot by his own troops, possibly on purpose.

@kirotheavenger60

Ай бұрын

I was coming to say the exact same thing. It seems clear "from the rear" is referring to the rear of the unit as a whole, and is an obvious insinuation of 'fragging'. Especially in the context of the general dislike of said officer, which was likely shared by the whole unit.

Excellent explanation. I was taught to aim for the torso, bigger target. Snipers are no different. You want to make sure of a hit and the head is a small target especially if it's moving. Even a wounded soldier is one less in a battle.

SMG round? Ppsh or other varient?

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

I think PPSh round, but hard to be sure since it has a rusty iron jacket.

Good explanation thanks. But why bother explaining to people who are clearly ignorant? 90% of the time they won't change! Your normal videos are extremely interesting, particularly when you discover and unearth mass burials and explain how they died and what seems to have happened to them. (I've been subbed to your channel for a few years now).

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

Read what the other viewers have commented, and tell me if you think it was a mistake to make the video. This trajectory buisness is a recurring theme I have talked and discussed about numerous times over the years. Now I will just post the link to this video instead of repeating myself.

The gnarled pistol caliber bullet is a little unusual. Normally those were full metal jacketed. I've recovered many pistol bullets from their terminal ballistics event. FMJ bullets normally weren't that distorted. Sometimes the lead was separated from the copper jacket (perhaps steel jacket in european bullets) upon impact. Perhaps the bullet went through something first causing it to distort and then tumble. Keyholing of a bullet is caused by an interuption in it's external ballistic stability provided by high rotation speeds caused by rifling. Even bullet buffeting by slowing down through the sound barrier can do that. Or brush, grass, etc enroute. Keyholes in long range paper targets are often perfect profiles of the bullet. Accuracy significantly ends at that point. THe bullet whizzes by instead of 'cracks'.

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

This bullet does not have a copper jacket, it has an iron jacket, which is why it looks so ugly. Iron jackets were used by the Germans and Soviets I believe. Keyhole can mean two different things. Here I am not saying the bullet was keyholing, I am saying there is a keyhole type entrance wound in the skull. This is caused by perfectly stable bullet that enter the skull at a very shallow angle. This is a forensic medicine word. The word clearly has a different meaning for hunters and target shooters.

@jackpinesavage9806

Ай бұрын

@@CrocodileTear The ferrous jacket was 'plated' or somehow coated with materials to environmentally protect the material and it also reduced wear on the bore. 'Gilding metal' and 'copper wash' are some terms i've read. Being an American shooter I'm not that familiar with ferrous materials in cartridges or bullets. Ive always been impressed how a pellet of mild steel can be smashed into the form of a cartridge casing.

RIP.

There is no way to know without Being there at the time. If I had to guess based on my 18-years in the US Army, I would say the German was in a foxhole and the shooter was Patrolling and spotted the German first (from 50 yards or less) while the German was looking away, or the shooter approached from the right flank. the shooter may have dropped to his knee which. with the German in a fox hole and the shooter on one knee the angle shown was possible. is this what happened? we will never know for sure, but it's plausible and very likely. It's much easier to guess wounds during WWII. wounds now like in ukraine are typically far too violent 15:28 to the bodies. my war was desert shield and desert storm... where more troops were killed in car accidents, except for the Scud missile attack and blue on blue events. what's going on in Ukraine is horrific. I'm not a huge fan of Russians, but what's happening to the russian troops is rather shocking whether they deserve it is another topic. (likely 80% don't wish to be there.... If they run they get shot by their own troops, and if they stay they get killed by Ukraine forces (Rock and a hard place).

@CrocodileTear

Ай бұрын

This Kurt Günther was shot in the Paris area, so foxholes and trenches are not very likely.

Thank you for the lesson. I really enjoy your videos keep them coming and thanks!

One very minor issue: “Completely wrong?” You were there? How about “highly improbable” or “very unlikely?” Very well done, as usual and very thought provoking. My experience in jungle warfare decades ago was that for every bullet wound we incurred, we took 3-4 shrapnel wounds from mortar rounds, usually air bursts, and those wounds would range in severity from literally a scratch to fatal. Also, the helmet with the recovered bullet….you didn’t say where that was from (if you did, I didn’t catch it)…I assume it was from one of your digs on the Eastern Front area, where the Russians had huge numbers of PPSh 41’s and PPS43’s, both of which fired what was essentially a high powered pistol round, the 7.62x25 Tokarev round. Again, overall, very well done; I enjoy your work.

@CrocodileTear

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What is "completely wrong" is thinking that you can draw detailed conclusions about shooter location and nature of shooter based only on a bullet trajectory and impact area. There are multiple possibilities, and all of them by definitionare possible. I normaly make my videos in a single shot, so usualy managed to say a few stupidities and mistakes per video :) Indeed, the round is PPSh in my opinion. WWII and WWI statistics are very clear, something like 80% of casualties are caused by artillery. Jungle warfare has a higher rate of gunshot wounds and friendly fire incidents for obvious reasons.

This was one of the most amazingly lucid-as well as correct-explanations I have encountered about a topic that doesn’t apply only to military combat, but which often comes up in questions and claims about law enforcement shootings: people move when they’re being shot at and that affects where the bullets hit them. “He was shot in the back. He wasn’t posing a threat to the officer and was therefore murdered.” There are many differences between law enforcement defensive shootings and military combat, but one thing that’s the same is that people often react to being shot at by turning away. If an officer is responding to a deadly threat by firing a string of shots, it’s literally possible for someone to turn from facing the officer to facing away in the time between two shots. As for the types of fatal wounds in the chart from the "Wound Ballistics" book (a great classic reference, BTW), I’m reminded of a study that reportedly looked at where bombers returning in missions in WWII were hit by gunfire. As I understand it, the study originally concluded that the areas that were hit most frequently should receive additional protection. Finally, however, someone realized that what would have been actually worth knowing was where bombers that didn’t return had been hit. Although this video wasn’t about firearms ballistics per se except indirectly, I have found that it’s a subject that even experienced shooters tend to be woefully ignorant of. That does not, however, keep many of them from having very confident opinions.