Building the 780 Pound Wagon Wheels for Borax Water Wagons | Engels Coach

The Borax Water Wagon carries 1200 gallons of water across the Death Valley Desert on heavy wood wheels. This is assembling new spokes to a custom built wagon hub as I build an exact replica of the original Borax Wagon used in Death Valley. This wagon carried the water to supply the 20 mules as they crossed the desert, a 10 day trip both ways.
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  • @Newie67
    @Newie675 жыл бұрын

    I think you dont realize how precious it is what you do in putting these Videos up for us to watch. By doing that you preserve the Knowledge of your Craftsmanship. Who now a days knows how our Ancestors build these Wagons and wheels. I love that you only talk when it is needed so that the Viewer can steal with their eyes your Knowledge and learn by looking. So keep up the good work.

  • @georgerrust4087
    @georgerrust40875 жыл бұрын

    I wake up on Saturday morning like a kid on Christmas day knowing I get to watch your shop in action. Its the best no BS and no jabbering just to fill up the time with superfluous, unnecessary commentary like a CNN person would do assuming that who ever is watching is dumber than a bag of hammers. Keep up the good work!!

  • @stevenrey56
    @stevenrey565 жыл бұрын

    I spent my tender Boy Scout years living in the Mojave desert and I just wanted to say, I've tasted Mojave desert hot water from my canteen and know how thirsty you've gotta be to drink it. 1200 gallons of 100 degree water has got to be 1200 times worse. And this wagon's construction is so beefy I can hardly believe it. Really a marvel to watch the construction.

  • @berthatton9410
    @berthatton94105 жыл бұрын

    What a massive beast you are building. Thanks so much.

  • @kellygingras2170
    @kellygingras21705 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate you keeping history alive with your videos!

  • @john-nutsabouttools6989
    @john-nutsabouttools69895 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how the pitch of sound changes as you set the spokes. Even with machine noise it lets you know when it seats itself into the hub. Thanks for another great video- truly amazing.

  • @alansmith4734
    @alansmith47345 жыл бұрын

    What amazes me, is that there was an original that stood the test of time.

  • @dougminnis7708
    @dougminnis77083 жыл бұрын

    Dave, good work again. A shop cannot have too many clamps!

  • @ronmack1767
    @ronmack17675 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the video Mr Engel. Those are going to be some big heavy wheels. Y'all take care and God bless.

  • @dananelson479
    @dananelson4795 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining the details. Those grease fittings are pretty slick, no pun intended. The way the spokes are fitted makes me appreciate just how handmade these wheels were and are. Even the bolts add strength and rigidity. Thanks for sharing the process with us.

  • @albionwatts6000
    @albionwatts60005 жыл бұрын

    I kept wqiting for the soft Saxaphone jazz to kick in.. Watching you sir is so relaxing.. Thanks for making the effort to video your work..

  • @larryswindcatcher
    @larryswindcatcher5 жыл бұрын

    Sweet dreams you must have at night, dreaming about your work ahead and enthusiastically waiting for dawn.

  • @boblasley5640
    @boblasley56405 жыл бұрын

    Dave, I can so sympathize with that moment of hesitation after putting the spokes in that first hub as you surely thought "OK, now where the heck am I going to put these things?" Shops are never big enough, no matter how big they are. Thanks again for these videos and sharing what you do. All the best!

  • @briancrites3283
    @briancrites32835 жыл бұрын

    My 91 year old mom commented on how slim and trim you are. I replied of course he is look at the workout he has every day at work! Thanks for producing these great videos of a vanishing art.

  • @unclebuzz6913
    @unclebuzz69135 жыл бұрын

    FRIDAYS ARE ALWAYS BRIGHTER AFTER WATCHING A REAL CRAFTSMAN .(STILL WATCHING) GOD BLESS YOU, YOUR FAMILY ,AND HOME

  • @northwoodacres4114
    @northwoodacres41145 жыл бұрын

    My Friday night fix. Thanks Dave.

  • @stevensrspcplusmc
    @stevensrspcplusmc5 жыл бұрын

    You can never have too many clamps 😊👍

  • @nikalldayyt
    @nikalldayyt5 жыл бұрын

    I love the bit at the start of the video where you take your patient and plonk them in a comfy chair and start drilling. You could be a dentist in your spare time. ;)

  • @ruperthartop7202
    @ruperthartop72025 жыл бұрын

    Awesome is the only word I can think of too. Great stuff. Cheers

  • @ronwhite6719
    @ronwhite67195 жыл бұрын

    Great work Dave, can't wait to see the wheels done. Long way to go. Great detail!

  • @TheJimbodean67
    @TheJimbodean675 жыл бұрын

    Looks like the dance hall will be getting a new barrel of sawdust. Thank you for sharing sir!

  • @Phantomthecat
    @Phantomthecat5 жыл бұрын

    Never ever get sick of watching you work, you’re a true Craftsman. 👍

  • @nknatewood8226

    @nknatewood8226

    5 жыл бұрын

    Phantomthecat: In _one hundred percent_ agreement! 😁😁😁

  • @jimlong527
    @jimlong5275 жыл бұрын

    In see at times a chair is not always a chair. You are so good at what you do.

  • @brownmilligan1936
    @brownmilligan19365 жыл бұрын

    that oil you soaked those hubs in made a great coller in the wood. thanks for a great show. cant wait for next time.

  • @junlangbayan4776
    @junlangbayan47765 жыл бұрын

    Thank you David, from South East Asia

  • @russruss624
    @russruss6245 жыл бұрын

    "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's workshop" Forgive me for I have sinned! Great work.

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten29945 жыл бұрын

    Man I really enjoy your style of work. One man solving the way to handle all that bulk and weight. Thanks Mr. Engels

  • @williampugh6699
    @williampugh66995 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for showing us the process.

  • @SmokeFlame1
    @SmokeFlame15 жыл бұрын

    Those are "Jolly Good Felloes." And I'll bet you've heard that kind of corn more often than you'd care to remember. Another great video by the way.

  • @carlthor91
    @carlthor915 жыл бұрын

    You sir are a national treasure. Cheers

  • @12370ts
    @12370ts5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you for making these videos!!!

  • @wayneshirey6999
    @wayneshirey69995 жыл бұрын

    That wagon will be quite a load empty. I read they pulled 1200 gallons of water for the mules, and that's about 5 tons. The borax was 30 tons. I'm surprised 20 mules were enough. Thanks for the video.

  • @ranchdude4367
    @ranchdude43675 жыл бұрын

    Geeee Dave, you even have a CUTE little tool for spreading the glue. I use my finger, but now I have to build a glue spreader JUST LIKE YOU. O ya, I was at Home Depo by the way and bought 37 more ball peen hammers just so I can be just like you....Much love, Rick

  • @GreatPlainsCraftsman
    @GreatPlainsCraftsman5 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dave. Looks simple and very technical at the same time. That equals skill. You know your stuff for sure.

  • @larryshaw796
    @larryshaw7965 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing a felloe can never have too many clamps. Beautiful attention to detail again I only wish I could see it up close.

  • @KE4YAL
    @KE4YAL5 жыл бұрын

    The first real job I had was drill press an hot riveter man that brings back from over fifty years ago Great video Thanks for sharing

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall70515 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Dave. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Garth2011
    @Garth20115 жыл бұрын

    Good thing it's nice and quiet in the shop. Distractions could be rather expensive...again and again and again. Thanks for sharing Dave.

  • @steveskouson9620
    @steveskouson96205 жыл бұрын

    Always makes my Friday bright! Thanks for posting, David! steve

  • @vernonland5987
    @vernonland59875 жыл бұрын

    I think I saw the famous glue spreader used. I would venture to say these wheels are far superior to those made in the 1800's.

  • @scruffy6151
    @scruffy61515 жыл бұрын

    The wheels just keep getting heavier each time you add more pieces to them. Stay safe. Thank you for letting us watch.

  • @dezfan
    @dezfan5 жыл бұрын

    Another bad day made better, thanks!👍🏼

  • @joeromanak8797
    @joeromanak87975 жыл бұрын

    Once again, thanks for presentin. 😎👍

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale69015 жыл бұрын

    Great job as always and I am very glad to see you using that lift to move those wheels, have been afraid we would see you get hurt one day lifting those super heavy parts.

  • @barkebaat
    @barkebaat5 жыл бұрын

    A treat as always. Thanks !

  • @Crewsy
    @Crewsy5 жыл бұрын

    You certainly get some beautiful wood to work with Dave. That poor mans oak (Ash) would look beautiful in finished cabinetry never mind a wheel felloe. One of the ladies in the woodworking club built up 4 layers of 3” ash to make blanks to turn 12” columns to use for legs for one end of the kitchen island she was building. They “turned” out nicely.

  • @joeinthebush

    @joeinthebush

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use it in snowshoes... Cause it's tough as nails But not as angry as oak...I was thinking of trying a pair made of oak .. ash is a common tree here in N Ont. Though I've never seen tree's big enough around here to cut such large planks like those..the grain runs pretty true...make a lot of ax and maul handles from it too.

  • @howardschaefer1445
    @howardschaefer14455 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering how you were going to lift those! Thank you again for sharing this. All the work and then editing videos too. You are truly amazing.

  • @WhatAboutTheBee

    @WhatAboutTheBee

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ha! I thought he was just going to lift them up the way he set them down. Mr. "Hercules" Engel will now demonstrate his feats of strength! Edit: because I can!

  • @ranchdude4367

    @ranchdude4367

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WhatAboutTheBee Dave "DON'T HAVE NO KRIPTIONITE" Bee man!!!

  • @johncornbread
    @johncornbread5 жыл бұрын

    Just magnificent David! Stay safe.

  • @tutekohe1361
    @tutekohe13615 жыл бұрын

    The mechanic in me wants to fit grease seals to those hubs! It must have been a bugger keeping the sand out of those plain bearings. Nice job, great video. 👍

  • @JasperJanssen

    @JasperJanssen

    4 жыл бұрын

    The wear from grit in the grease is a) why they have grease nipples that can push the old grease out and b) why they’re seated on a taper - wearing down you would just have to tighten the axle nut a bit.

  • @arnhemseptember2009
    @arnhemseptember20095 жыл бұрын

    Big job again!

  • @lapoint7603
    @lapoint76035 жыл бұрын

    I find your videos very interesting and informative. I really enjoy technology and your work shows that there was very complex technology involved in the design and construction of wagons and buggies more than 150 years ago. Thank you!

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover41335 жыл бұрын

    Master Craftsman

  • @richardyoung4616
    @richardyoung46165 жыл бұрын

    That clear wood must be expensive, I've never noticed a knot anywhere. Nice.

  • @eidsa1999
    @eidsa19995 жыл бұрын

    many thanks for making these pretty videos

  • @imtimrich
    @imtimrich5 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to Friday just to see your work.. Your such a craftsman

  • @MikeAG333
    @MikeAG3335 жыл бұрын

    I'm really enjoying this series. Thanks for making the effort to film it so nicely. I'm intrigued as to why you didn't stagger the joints in the felloes when you doubled them up. Instead of having butt joints going all the way though the double width rim, you could have had joints only going half way through. Surely this would have made a much stronger wheel. Is there some constructional reason why this isn't possible, or is it simply that this is the way it was done on the original that you are copying?

  • @rtkville
    @rtkville5 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! I love your work, thank you for taking the time to make these excellent videos!

  • @johnfox4691
    @johnfox46915 жыл бұрын

    Great job - again.

  • @bobjoncas2814
    @bobjoncas28145 жыл бұрын

    ..great job, i never knew how wagon wheels were made..thank you ..

  • @kyrg
    @kyrg5 жыл бұрын

    Heading to Bishop next Thursday, hope to see the finished product in living color.

  • @tubehound8
    @tubehound85 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Good work

  • @peterfrederick3775
    @peterfrederick37755 жыл бұрын

    What satisfying looking work! It'd be great to be an apprentice.

  • @stun9771
    @stun97715 жыл бұрын

    Truly awesome work...👍🏻

  • @RichardHeadGaming
    @RichardHeadGaming5 жыл бұрын

    He has mastered manipulating the Spoke Time Continuum.

  • @patmancrowley8509
    @patmancrowley85095 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful.

  • @thisnicklldo
    @thisnicklldo5 жыл бұрын

    They really were (are going to be) monsters, weren't they? 4.5 tonnes of water, 3 tonnes of wheels, heaven knows how much iron you have put into the chassis. I know the borax wagons were even bigger. I can imagine even you must have approached doing this job by yourself with some trepidation. So much work.

  • @1jtolvey
    @1jtolvey5 жыл бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO !!!

  • @williampugh6699
    @williampugh66995 жыл бұрын

    I’ve tried your glueing tool and the paint can tape tricks and both work great.

  • @738polarbear
    @738polarbear5 жыл бұрын

    I would be very interested to see you make a wheel hub .

  • @RH-xr8ms
    @RH-xr8ms5 жыл бұрын

    Wow,,,fastest glue spreader ever.

  • @rickbrandt9559
    @rickbrandt95595 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed!!

  • @kenhughes
    @kenhughes5 жыл бұрын

    I see that 9 people don't appreciate true craftsmanship.

  • @skydiverclassc2031

    @skydiverclassc2031

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nah, it's just 9 people who couldn't fix their bicycle after it broke.

  • @brucebellinger9783
    @brucebellinger97835 жыл бұрын

    Amazing stuff, that old hide glue. Assuming that was the glue applied to bond the felloes together.

  • @dankolar6066
    @dankolar60665 жыл бұрын

    Like that glue trowel. Thanks for sharing.

  • @davidjohnson4222
    @davidjohnson42225 жыл бұрын

    Another great video sir

  • @macbilling6410
    @macbilling64105 жыл бұрын

    I find it very interesting watching work so hard. What do you do to relax.

  • @opendstudio7141

    @opendstudio7141

    5 жыл бұрын

    Burns stuff and then hits it repeatedly with hammers. 🔨🔨😁

  • @billmorris2613
    @billmorris26133 жыл бұрын

    Good afternoon from SE Louisiana 7 Mar 21.

  • @tonyrum5808
    @tonyrum58085 жыл бұрын

    Heavy work ! Thanks!

  • @AltGrendel
    @AltGrendel4 жыл бұрын

    Proving once again you can never have too many clamps.

  • @ranchdude4367
    @ranchdude43675 жыл бұрын

    Geee Mr. Dave, some of the time you even look like you know what you are doing.!!!

  • @dantone1952
    @dantone19525 жыл бұрын

    Great work !

  • @brucemcclure2626
    @brucemcclure26265 жыл бұрын

    Oh, man, are you in trouble! You got glue on Mr Engel’s saw table!

  • @ROLANDO72510
    @ROLANDO725105 жыл бұрын

    U AR NOT GOOD!!! YOU ARE awesome !!!!!

  • @robertmecalis7189
    @robertmecalis71895 жыл бұрын

    Made me laugh to see you looking for a place to lean the wheel, my shops the same way I guess they all are. Wonderful craftsmanship and such large items.

  • @Jackielightning
    @Jackielightning5 жыл бұрын

    I all ways did like working with wood and to watch you doing this wagon is just to Kewl

  • @SENTOSA.family19
    @SENTOSA.family195 жыл бұрын

    Amazing 👍

  • @oc2phish07
    @oc2phish073 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave. But I thought for a moment there you were making a giant Jenga set.

  • @pierrefouchard6593
    @pierrefouchard65935 жыл бұрын

    impeccable, merci, pierre de vierzon

  • @gordbaker896
    @gordbaker8965 жыл бұрын

    Dave: I could never make those wheels even if I could. I hate repetition. That one stand base looks Like a FarmAll 'H' rear wheel weight. You have likely used the carabiners on those straps countless times but be wary. A shackle and pin is much safer. You should wear a FitBit watch some day. You are likely over 20,000 steps a day. Lucky you have a steel cable for your spine! Do you have a Shop Cat? Just wondering in Carlisle ON. I never see a coffee cup or Pop can or beer bottle or hear a phone ring. No breaks there? Incredible work ethic.

  • @JasperJanssen

    @JasperJanssen

    4 жыл бұрын

    A) I have seen one break in one video B) editing.

  • @matthewkantar5583
    @matthewkantar55835 жыл бұрын

    Nice ash!

  • @BobBlarneystone
    @BobBlarneystone5 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, keeping in mind that you're landlocked and maybe have built only prairie schooners, have you ever made a capstan, windlass, or frames for a sailing ship?

  • @MsRazvan29
    @MsRazvan295 жыл бұрын

    Bravo Respekt Bravo 🤝❤

  • @user-xs9vp1rv8i
    @user-xs9vp1rv8i5 жыл бұрын

    大変参考になりました。

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford82665 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these videos. Great to watch your evolving clamping and alignment technique with laminating the pairs of blanks. You mentioned the originals were glued, too. Do you know what type of glue?

  • @barrywinters1142
    @barrywinters11425 жыл бұрын

    the box says "go ahead, take a peek inside" what great mystery lies inside? As usual, great video

  • @magdyshamlol5049
    @magdyshamlol50495 жыл бұрын

    الله ينور تسلم

  • @raincoast2396
    @raincoast23965 жыл бұрын

    Now I understand the heavy construction. 1200 US gallons @ 8.34 lbs. per gal = 10,008 lbs or just a little over 5 tons of water. 20 teams of mules drink a lot of water in the desert.

  • @jughead8988
    @jughead89885 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to be able to sit down and ask you about 10,000 questions!

  • @banjopete

    @banjopete

    5 жыл бұрын

    James Caudill , sounds like fun!

  • @jackdotzman2908
    @jackdotzman29085 жыл бұрын

    In addition to your blacksmithing skills and woodworking skills I admire your ability to manufacture the highly repetitious items required for the wheels, and their big parts too. Really, how many of us rookie woodworking viewers move parts around our woodworking shop with a fork truck? Question, before “Tightbond III” to make 8” wide wheels on the original wheels, did they use hide glue? or 8” wide wood? From time to time would you share with us how long it takes you to make a wheel, or how long it took to fordge the brake bracket that you hand cut 1” threads? We see the very short, very short, version of the time it takes you to make something, it would be interesting to know how long it takes to make the different parts. Very much enjoy your wagon building video’s. Thank you, JD/Missouri

  • @MikeAG333
    @MikeAG3335 жыл бұрын

    As an aside from my comment below, it seems that one of the many uses for Borax is as a flux in metalworking. I guess it's not impossible that the flux we see being used in the videos when forge-welding is being done might be Borax, in a nice link to the wagon's antecedents.