Building a NEW Amiga 2000 in 2022 - Part 1 assembly, testing and first power up

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Why buy a big box Amiga when we can make one...
If there's one thing that's been missing from my collection its a big box Amiga and since prices of those are heading skyward, me and a few other folk got together and did a group buy of the parts needed to build our own.
This board is a reworking of the classic Amiga 2000 but redesigned to fit an EATX form factor for use in a modern case. The boards came partly assembled from JLCPCB (not sponsored) but its up to us to put the rest of it together. The chipset comes out of the battery damaged A500+ we looked at a few months ago.
Thanks to screemo, pillock, liv2 and sparxuk for the help while assembling this. Special thanks to sparxuk for ordering everything and splitting it out into kits for each of us.
2000EATX GitHub - github.com/jasonsbeer/Amiga-2...
CRG twitter - / yt_crg
CRG patreon -www.patreon.com/user?u=139190...
Music - Modspire by NaokiS ( / naokisaito )
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:52 First look at the board
02:55 Pass through caps
07:39 Thank you SparxUK
08:27 Fuses
08:50 Diodes, stupidly small diodes!
12:21 Fitting SMD IC's
14:02 Soldering montage 1
15:27 SRAM
17:01 What's next
18:16 -5v regulator
19:16 Capacitors
19:42 Oscillator
22:07 ATX power connector and modification
24:49 U103, U105
25:46 Soldering montage 2
26:32 Jumpers
27:31 Sockets
28:35 Some more stuff needed from the old board
30:16 Ports
31:20 U103, U105
31:55 Some quick tests
34:26 Video cable and fitting the chipset
36:19 Setting the AGNUS jumpers
37:16 First power on
37:46 Reset and clocks?
38:33 Clock Fix
40:30 Second power on
40:49 A few days later...
43:54 Amiga test kit
46:30 What about Zorro?
47:47 Conclusion, questions and credits.
#Commodore #Amiga #A2000 #2000EATX

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  • @markwrightrf
    @markwrightrf Жыл бұрын

    If only KZread had a "this deserves a bigger audience" button... great stuff as ever

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark, this one has quickly turned into my biggest video of the year. Part 2 will be up for Sunday.

  • @jason50146
    @jason50146 Жыл бұрын

    jasonsbeer here...nice work! Imagine my excitement when an A2000 EATX build video popped up on my youtube feed today. You did a great job going through everything...including the issues people should be aware of. I have probably ordered 50-60 of these boards from JLCPCB through the development phases and for resale. Never had any warped like that, so I don't think that's a production issue. Regardless, that's unfortunate. Looking forward to part 2!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words. The warping in the board is unfortunate but it is what it is. I now have the slots fitted and it certainly strengthens everything, the board at least doesn't flex as much. All being well part 2 will be up this coming Sunday finishing off the build getting it all into a case.

  • @MegamanEXEv2
    @MegamanEXEv2 Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of a “reverse sleeper” where the outside is super modern gamer RGB, but the internals are Amiga. Could be fun!

  • @AmEv7fam

    @AmEv7fam

    Жыл бұрын

    I do know that some people are calling them "ricers", where "sleepers" and "ricers originally came from the car scene - and they both apply the definition of performance equally.

  • @jjock3239
    @jjock323919 күн бұрын

    I have just subscribed. I thoroughly enjoyed your build. As an owner of several different Amigas, including a bunch of 2000s, I enjoyed the A2000 for so many years, that I am happy to see that it lives on. Even though my main 2000 has a GVP 030 board doesn't get much use any more, because I am using an 040 powered A3000, as well as a Cyberstorm powered A4000. Amiga forever!

  • @deamondeathstone1
    @deamondeathstone1 Жыл бұрын

    So a 16-bit Dance Party? 🤣

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Suppose you could call it that 🤣🤣

  • @hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626

    @hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626

    2 ай бұрын

    if Paula supported 16 bit samples could have challenged some major 90s rompler synths

  • @gertsy2000
    @gertsy2000 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Especially luved the Adrians Digital Basement dancing.

  • @samuraidriver4x4
    @samuraidriver4x4 Жыл бұрын

    Go crazy case, feel like this deserves something noticable.

  • @thepillock
    @thepillock Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Love how you work through the minor problems you had and share the tips

  • @neilblackburn1026
    @neilblackburn1026 Жыл бұрын

    I was inspired by this video and am part way though building 2 of these. Been asked to do a 3rd (converting a friends Amiga 500) with a black PCB. As I can only order a minimum of 5, there are some currently available on Ebay if anyone wants to give this a go for themselves.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the late reply. Great to hear another few of these are being put together. Feel free to link you're eBay listing.

  • @Chris-yc3mm
    @Chris-yc3mm Жыл бұрын

    I could understand why jlpcb could not solder on the amega specific chips, but why could they not solder that mountain of capacitors for example?

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Remembering back to when this was ordered they just didn't have stock of some components. In fact even getting some stuff to do ourselves was difficult. Parts were ordered from maybe 4 or 5 different places and some of it had to come from AliExpress. I suppose it just comes down to the current worldwide shortages.

  • @BrainSlugs83
    @BrainSlugs83 Жыл бұрын

    Full RGB gamer mode with the iconic bouncing ball etched into the window, so the lights make it glow. I think that would be phenomenal. Can't wait for part 2!

  • @BrainSlugs83

    @BrainSlugs83

    Жыл бұрын

    p.s. I love the idea of using an A500 keyboard in a custom shell. That seems like a fun project on its own too!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats the plan, use an A500 keyboard. I have a case in mind for the board and there may be some RGB stuff on order too 😉

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo8980 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating watching a brand new big box Amiga motherboard being born here in 2022. I never had nor saw Amigas back in th 1990’s but recently got into them and bought a Vampire V4 Standalone, then got the itch for a big box and so I have Hese building me AA3000+ and then A4000TX motherboards. Expensive hobby once you start adding in Zorro USB, 9000GPU, IDE controller boards and the custom chipset costs but it is fun and luckily classic Amiga OS keeps getting updates with 3141 and 32 in the last couple years. Great video and I enjoyed watching Part 1.

  • @3vi1J
    @3vi1J Жыл бұрын

    Great progress! Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting.

  • @kkuusk
    @kkuusk Жыл бұрын

    Acrylic case to admire it from every angle!

  • @tiemanowo
    @tiemanowo Жыл бұрын

    9:37 I do appreciate that somebody have a time and skills to recreate such a board but "come one". This is a large board. There is a lot of free space for bigger components.

  • @jkeelsnc
    @jkeelsnc Жыл бұрын

    Good Build. 16 bit dance party!

  • @zero0ryn
    @zero0ryn Жыл бұрын

    Nice one Glen, I think RGB All the way :) You could have fun with the Floppy and LPF LED signals using a pi pico to run the light show. I watched the entire video at 1.75X speed. Your voice is perfectly audable at that speed :) I can't imagine how long that took you to do in real time.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I think so far I'm into it for about 20 hours. It's a lot of work but look at what it makes by the end, I think it's worth it. Still not sure about RGB but I think it needs some lighting in the case. Maybe something that I can select the colours and brightness on is the way to go.

  • @zero0ryn

    @zero0ryn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG I had a ceramic 68010 chip in my A2000T that I made. You notice the 010 speedup if you have no fastram. There is a very nice pi based flicker fixer that plugs into the genlock port. (Assuming you have a pi zero.)

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming7 ай бұрын

    I can solder a bit, but it's depressing to watch me solder, so I won't try to solder a board myself. I take my hat off to your soldering skills.

  • @gklinger
    @gklinger Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps your best video yet! So much fun to watch. Thank you!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad to enjoyed it.

  • @VenturiLife
    @VenturiLife Жыл бұрын

    Next-level soldering skills.

  • @mark12358

    @mark12358

    Жыл бұрын

    Really it is, he's very (very) good at it.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys, mostly I put it down to good solder and flux although I like to think my skills are getting better.

  • @VenturiLife

    @VenturiLife

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG A quality solder I discovered goes a long way to making easier soldering. Still some around with silver content and it flows so much better.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VenturiLife I use a leaded solder and since changing to that the difference is unbelievable. Flows really easily and leaves a shiny finish.

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel Жыл бұрын

    Good work, looks quite a complicated adventure!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Despite the amount of work involved there is nothing overly complicated about it. Of course it gets more difficult when you throw the switch and nothing happens but at least that got sorted in the end.

  • @michaelcarey
    @michaelcarey Жыл бұрын

    Great video! This looks to be a great project. Very tempted to build one...

  • @leesmithsworkshop
    @leesmithsworkshop Жыл бұрын

    very nice work, nothing better than spending all that time assembling a kit than seeing it working at the end.

  • @martindebes414
    @martindebes414 Жыл бұрын

    I think you should go for the most over-the-top Amiga/Commodore case you can manage. Red/Blue. Chicken Lips. Amiga Logo; boing ball; etc

  • @Sozzled39
    @Sozzled39 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely job Glen! Really cool to see an Amiga 2000 emerging in a new form factor. Look forward to seeing the Zorro slots installed and in action. For a keyboard you could use one of those CIA USB adapter thingys until you track down a proper A2000 keyboard. Case-wise: Yeah a windowed box sounds good. In a modern case. Sort of an inverse sleeper!!

  • @LeftoverBeefcake
    @LeftoverBeefcake Жыл бұрын

    Holy chimichangas that's a lot of work, even with some of the items already populated. Consider this another vote for the full RGB treatment. :)

  • @RobR386
    @RobR386 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work, its a big board, so not to difficult to solder the SMD parts, they're fiddly but having a decent iron and the correct tools does help. I do this stuff for a living 🙂

  • @ripper253
    @ripper253 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who was perusing the concept of doing something similar with an A3000 recently, your content sure is timed well!

  • @paulladdie1026
    @paulladdie1026 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent work CRG

  • @MrLukealbanese
    @MrLukealbanese Жыл бұрын

    YES - you hero Glen!! Got to be full RGB, the whole 9 yards.

  • @AmartharDrakestone
    @AmartharDrakestone Жыл бұрын

    For the keyboard case - the guy that made the Checkmate cases, also makes keyboard cases for external Amiga keyboards.

  • @ancipital
    @ancipital Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Flipped through your video - manually doing all that soldering, kudos to you, that is extremely hard, I know I wouldn't be able to manage it at this time without a huge amount of invested time. Amazing stuff.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Recording it does make it take longer but I think for this one in total about 20 hours. I dare say that without the camera and if you just focused on it there would be no problem getting it all done in half that.

  • @ancipital

    @ancipital

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG Spent hours just getting a sinclair Ql microdrive bare wires back in the socket - cheap sinclair cutting corners! LOL!

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 Жыл бұрын

    Of course, we would (or I would) watch all 50 minutes. This is such a nice project. I have seen one for an A4000 in an EATX style too, so it's nice to know there are options. As for the OS: I think if you want to use a CD-ROM you need a newer OS version but I don't remember that for sure. I would personally try to get an as modern case as possible with a window (to see the RGB of course) that also has drive bays. As drive bays are pretty much history these days, this might be a difficult task but getting a floppy drive/Gotek and maybe a CD drive at the very least is nice. Especially since I don't see an external floppy connector on this particular board. But either way, this is fascinating. Great job.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Drive bays in a modern case are really hard to find but at least with Amiga its easy enough to setup everything using WinUAE and especially if you have an easily accessible CF or SD card. I have a case in mind and hopefully it'll be here for the next part.

  • @weepingscorpion8739

    @weepingscorpion8739

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG Of course. I know you can also get USB interfaces for the Amiga, so you could also connect a Gotek and/or a CD drive that way, I think. Anyway, it's just what I would go for. I did myself manage to find a few modernish cases with drive bays. I just don't remember if they were regular ATX or EATX. Likely ATX. Looking forward to the next episode.

  • @jaimecosta2966
    @jaimecosta2966 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant... Love it I subscribed

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @jaimecosta2966

    @jaimecosta2966

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG hi I lived in UK for ouver twenty years I worked for an electronic company in London love it saying that I have left UK ouver twenty five years ago.. I have electronics and conputurrs as a hobby.. My eyes are not very good I am getting old.. With some good lighting I still gett some projects done.. Wish you well

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek Жыл бұрын

    You did pretty well soldering all of those surface mount components. It's surprising how quickly one improves with a little practice. I use similar techniques, and I haven't come across anything I can't solder with just a normal soldering iron and a hot air station. However, if it were me and I came across that tiny diode while ordering the parts, I probably would've downloaded the project from the hub for gits, and modified it to use a more normal sized footprint. As for the case, I'm not a huge fan of RGB LEDs. Buuuut if you're going to have a case with a window, you'll need some lighting to be able to see it, so I suggest some kind of programmable RGB LED controller. The only other thing I'd suggest is that I've seen beige-ish (more white) coloured modern cases, so that might be a nice nod to the modern and retro contents.

  • @bwack
    @bwack Жыл бұрын

    Oh, This video started as autoplay. Glad I didn't totally mis this ! I love the build from scratch amigas !

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks glad you enjoyed it. The second part is up now, finishing off the board and getting it into a case.

  • @iangodfrey4518
    @iangodfrey4518 Жыл бұрын

    TOP STUFF! Watched it all the way through, even with one of my kids bugging me for ice-cream two thirds of the way in... Want to build me one? I'm in Australia!

  • @thumbwarriordx
    @thumbwarriordx Жыл бұрын

    I instantly knew that signal diode part number. It's honestly the only one I know offhand. Was dreading the plot twist where it was installed backwards lol

  • @thumbwarriordx

    @thumbwarriordx

    Жыл бұрын

    Also I'd honestly be kinda mad if I had to special order the smallest version of the through-hole component I literally have hundreds of at all times.

  • @SuperVstech
    @SuperVstech Жыл бұрын

    I have a few of these boards... None of the needed parts though. I do have a pair of working 2000's though... Now I just gotta get em built!

  • @daspec
    @daspec Жыл бұрын

    If I ever decide to build one of my own, the PCB will be modern black and it goes in a Fractal Design case will tempered glass to showcase the TOASTER!

  • @Voyager_2
    @Voyager_2 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations! A year back I went for the floppie209 board because every chip is in a socket and its easy to repair but I did take a look at this board, and it looks nice! I just received my Denise ITX board but the density of all the smd scares me a little ;-) For cleaning I used 2 liters of bio ethanol and a large tube.

  • @42markk42
    @42markk42 Жыл бұрын

    Great build Glen - Go 50/50 on the case, i.e. modify a nice modern gaming case with a window, BUT respray it beige :) Also, I have a good Karcher pressure washer that'll clean that board beautifully for you 👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @alpaykasal2902
    @alpaykasal2902 Жыл бұрын

    Good dance moves at 45:50 !

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    16bit dance party 😉

  • @renepedersen7141
    @renepedersen7141 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work! :D I have also build A2000 board, but a rev.6.2 remake. I look forward to your next video about this machine :)

  • @pwissink1
    @pwissink1 Жыл бұрын

    Cool build. Good soldering technique. About the case: old style beige case but with a window and light rgb lights.

  • @247hinkey
    @247hinkey Жыл бұрын

    great upload!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @peddersoldchap
    @peddersoldchap9 ай бұрын

    It would be nice to put it in a brand new A2000 case, but I do know of anyone doing those atm. A nice alternative would be the Checkmate case. Thanks for the video.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR Жыл бұрын

    PCBWAY seem to be more advanced than JCLPCB, Seems that is a place better than anywhere else l.e OSHPARK

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't remember why we went with JLC over PCBWAY, it might just have been cost if I'm honest. Despite the warp in the board it works fine so I'm happy enough.

  • @RealLloyd

    @RealLloyd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG My first thought was, that you should have to clamp it down or make a jig before any soldering. This might take the stress out of the soldering points after it’s mount in a case.

  • @PJBonoVox
    @PJBonoVox Жыл бұрын

    Great video bud. I'd say a beige box with a window. To each their own.

  • @mogwaay
    @mogwaay Жыл бұрын

    Struggled to watching this build as I'm half way though my own project that I've had to leave hanging due lurgee, work, kids DIY and I'm desperate to get back to it to see if it will work! Seriously, great video and nice to get some soldering tips which will come in handy whenever I get back to my own project! Right, back to cooking...

  • @TheLemminkainen
    @TheLemminkainen Жыл бұрын

    When someone asked have you every build you own pc? Yes one new Amiga 2000 :)

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    And this time building it wasn't simply plugging in components 😉

  • @TheLemminkainen

    @TheLemminkainen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG Yeah thats what i meant but they same i build this :) really iam sure you just put parts in :)

  • @priestblood
    @priestblood9 ай бұрын

    Hey thanks for sharing

  • @edwincotton1516
    @edwincotton1516 Жыл бұрын

    Great Vid!!! Take a look at BeQueit cases there with RGB and look great also with out, I use the 900 case, and love the point you can switch sides where the glass is to show off the mainboard!

  • @YogSothoth1969
    @YogSothoth1969 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, what an amount of work!!!! Respect for this!! o7 Cmdr 🙂

  • @Hrybochok
    @Hrybochok Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! I always found myself really enjoying watching such re-creation of a retro tech using more modern parts, for me this is some sort of tech p#rn :) If question about pc case is still open - I can propose a Phanteks Ethoo Pro lying around and collecting dust in my storage. It may provide that not too modern, but not too old, but with back window n stuff look for this build. Anyway thanks for interesting content :)

  • @force4200
    @force4200 Жыл бұрын

    Take it to the NeXT level RGB and all 😊

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai Жыл бұрын

    You get a thumbs up for a 50 minute video. Another thumbs up for poking fun at Adrian Black. I love his channel, nice to see another creator also watching his channel. My thoughts is your project is NOT an original A2000. So you should go over the top. If this was a restore, then by all means go original.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, great to hear from someone who enjoys a longer format video. I've been a big fan of Adrian for a few years now. You might say he has been somewhat of an inspiration for this channel.

  • @WyMustIGo
    @WyMustIGo3 ай бұрын

    nice work

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @IkarusKommt
    @IkarusKommt Жыл бұрын

    It is somewhat comforting to know than all those custom chips will eventually expire, and that production of e-waste will finally stop.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    By then we'll hopefully have modern replacements for the customs too 😉

  • @devjock
    @devjock Жыл бұрын

    Your best bet on cleaning the board would probably be Rainbow International. Operating in south Belfast / Bangor according ot the website. The pics on there show them dunking complete CD Players into an ultrasonic bath, so I reckon an a2000 mobo would definitely work as well. Awesome build series my man, looking forward to the second part!

  • @brianlhughes
    @brianlhughes Жыл бұрын

    I bought the Atari 520 ST back in the day, but would have been happy to have had the Amiga instead. I had a blast coding in Assembler on the 68000.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Only something I can dream of doing to be honest. I did a bit of basic coding back in the day but wouldn't know were to start these days. Always enjoyed it though, maybe I should try to pick it up again.

  • @brianlhughes

    @brianlhughes

    Жыл бұрын

    this extension for visual studio lets you code on Windows 10. You can debug using an emulator and when your finished transfer the program to the Amiga.

  • @JARVIS1187
    @JARVIS1187 Жыл бұрын

    We "watched the video for almost 42 minutes", when you talked about that testing. I'd love to see those parts, too! Just mentioning! Great video as usual! As for the case: Please do not go the RGB route! Imho that destroys the classic aspect of the Amiga. Modern case would be okay with a window!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    I toyed with the idea of including more of the testing footage etc but when it ultimately ended up just being a bad agnus I thought is there any point in dragging this out for a further 10-15 minutes. Given how long the video is I decided to cut it and just give the highlights. I'll keep it in mind for the future though. Thanks for the feedback. As for the case I've got my eye on a nice Corsair 4000D black case with a tinted side window but will see what the rest think.

  • @TimsRetroCorner
    @TimsRetroCorner Жыл бұрын

    I've also got a dead A500Plus with battery damage like yours (10+1 power light flashes, but a BLACK screen - haven't figured that out). I was thinking about building an A500++ from it, but now the A2000 is kinda tempting.... Oh, and Full on RGB, definitely!!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like it could be Agnus at fault on your board but hopefully not as the 8375 is getting expensive. The 2000 board is a great build and I'd highly recommend it if you have the space the full machine would need over a new wedge. It opens the door to Zorro expansions which is something I've never had the chance to play with. The new case is on order and some lighting is included. The next part should be out this weekend.

  • @jarekjagielski366
    @jarekjagielski366 Жыл бұрын

    OK, I never heard of this project until today... might just get my hands on one. Great video, thanks for sharing your experience building it! Wonder if it would work with TF536 for example, would make a sweet setup.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. It does indeed work with the 536 and I'm considering building one myself for it. I would like one of the full size A2000 accelerator cards but like most things Amiga they are getting a bit too expensive.

  • @CobraTheSpacePirate
    @CobraTheSpacePirate Жыл бұрын

    The A500+ 8375 Agnes is totally different Agnes from A500 8375. The pin out is even different. To upgrade an A2000 to 2MB CHIP RAM with an A500+ AGNES you need an adapter that remaps the pin outs and also adds they extra CHIP RAM. I think. You need like the 8375 (318069-16 only) (PAL) - Amiga 500 from Rev 6 (PAL); Amiga 2000 model B from Rev 6.4 (PAL) or any PAL 8372A from a Rev 6 A500. At least that is what I thought from first glance. I didn't watch the whole video but I just heard you say that you used the chips from and A500+.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    This board has various jumpers to set which let you use any of the various Agnus chips. The issue with this one which I initially blamed on a bad Agnus, with some later testing, turned out to be a bad Gary.

  • @al.d9592
    @al.d9592 Жыл бұрын

    Good work, what version of the pcb did you build? I have one laying around - still haven’t decided if I want to pay the hefty price for the parts…

  • @lokz9632
    @lokz9632 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed watching this video. Great work. What about Checkmate case for it? Would it fit?

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it. Unfortunately I don't think the checkmate would work without a major redesign of the rear of that case.

  • @HansCampbell
    @HansCampbell5 ай бұрын

    Is there a surface mount parts kit for this board? I am considering buying one and building it. 😃

  • @rebeccaschade3987
    @rebeccaschade3987 Жыл бұрын

    This project seems so tempting. I have no idea where to get a donor chipset from though. Perhaps something for the future.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Easiest option is like I did and take it from an A500 or A500+ then add the bluster chip.

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 Жыл бұрын

    Nice project. I believe you can get a Keyrah board to convert an existing A500 keyboard into an external one with casings also being available. I can't remember where I saw it for sure but I think Neil from RMC might have done something like this when he set up an A1500 project. I know it's not a 'professional' cleaning method but many people have been using dishwashers to clean circuit boards with good results (just make sure it's properly dried off before powering it up). As for the case, something like the NZXT H7 Flow might be a good fit. It is listed as being EATX compatible and is available in black, white or black and white. The black version sports a tinted window which could be a good shout since the basic green of the motherboard is not exactly pretty. It could end up looking a lot better in conjunction with some RGB fans or a lighting kit (since as an Amiga this system is unlikely to need much in the way of airflow). The biggest problem is that pretty much all modern cases don't allow for a floppy drive which is why you might end up looking on Ebay for an older case unless you are willing to use an external drive.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    The A500 keyboard can be easily converted for use as an A2000 keyboard and thats my plan until I can find something better. I'm not sure if RMC has done a video on it but I know certainly GadgetUK has. I don't think I could put this in the dishwasher. Yes I seen loads of folk do it but on the chance it'd go wrong for me I don't think its worth it. I have a case in mind for this build and yes finding one with an external drive bay is near impossible but I hope I have a work around for that.

  • @DaveVelociraptor
    @DaveVelociraptor Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video! Did you at any point think "I've taken on too much" and regret it? For the keyboard did you consider a checkmate?

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad to hear you enjoyed it. To answer your questions... No, I didn't ever think it was too much work from the point of view of the assembly, if anything I enjoyed it with the anticipation of it being finished and booting. Of course when it didn't there was that sinking feeling of what could possibly be wrong and especially after I fixed the clock. Ultimately it worked though out so all good. As for the keyboard, yes I looked at the checkmate but just now it's a little expensive. I'm already about £500 deep into this project and can't afford the £70 for it. Maybe after Christmas.

  • @stevesether
    @stevesether Жыл бұрын

    Nice job. I really like this idea of giving a second like to an Amiga 500 as an Amiga 2000. For the case? I think I'm with you, and I wouldn't want a boring beige box. I'm not sure an Amiga really has the aesthetic of a full on gamer box either. Maybe some kind of in-between? Something with some style, but still represents something from the old aesthetic. Since this is a 500 turned into a 2000... maybe the case should have some outward styling elements of a 500, but in "full box" 2000 model. I honestly always liked that look of Amia 500/600 and the Plus/4 with the cooling vents.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a case in mind for this and all being well it'll feature in the next part this coming weekend.

  • @mikegravgaard340
    @mikegravgaard3408 ай бұрын

    What about a Lian Li case with window? Genuinely wonder the difference in heat between an original 2000 and the surface mount A2000.

  • @hiteck007
    @hiteck007 Жыл бұрын

    That's a staggeringly big job, my compliments for your patience although I personally hate SMD type boards

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    A year ago I might have agreed with you but honestly now I think SMD is easier than through hole, especially when its the larger pitch SMD stuff. That SRAM and some of the chicken feed was tricky enough.

  • @samp3413

    @samp3413

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​@@CRG You can use radial electrolytics instead of SMD, they make them small enough these days in those values. Just bend both leads 90 degrees outwards from the base of the cap then trim the excess. SMDs tend to leak, so I avoid using them

  • @josteinkallevik
    @josteinkallevik Жыл бұрын

    Nice build :) reminds me to finish my A4000TX :/ Looking forward to the case, something I can use for my board mabye :) hope you find something vintage correct for the this board.

  • @danielmarksel6829
    @danielmarksel6829 Жыл бұрын

    Open frame case (ie thermaltake) - Could we have an approx cost of PCB + Kit of parts (excluding Amiga salvaged parts) ?

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course and sorry for not covering it in the video. Cost for PCB and components was around £300. To date though I'm probably up to around £500 total with the donor A500+, PSU, Case, Gotek etc.

  • @do0ranfrump260
    @do0ranfrump260 Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing.. now we need some one to start reproducing the custom chips. Seriously whoever owns the rights please release them into the public domain.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Certainly for AGNUS anyway, the originals and in particular the 8375 are getting very expensive.

  • @brynjarborgersen8131
    @brynjarborgersen8131 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think you need to worry about long videos, mate, at least for me, it didn't feel like it was much more 20min Hope you get some Zorro sockets and get to test it out with even more hardware. And I swear I shall pack up that 600 during this week

  • @simant5361
    @simant5361 Жыл бұрын

    Plain case with lighting strips

  • @bobschaus488
    @bobschaus488 Жыл бұрын

    I would say go rgb on the case but light it with the check mark colours.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be cool. I've now got the case and some stuff for inside it but there is always room to add a check mark later.

  • @bobwatson957
    @bobwatson957 Жыл бұрын

    Hi CRG, I'm also looking for a big Amiga. I was wondering where you ordered the parts from. Thanks.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    The GitHub is linked in the videos description, you can get the files needed to order boards along with the bom there. Our parts came from various places, components were ordered from a mixture of mouser and digikey. Slots, sockets and the cpld for bluster came from AliExpress. The chipset came out of an old A500+. We had to use so many outlets due to the component shortage.

  • @WolfiiiiBoy
    @WolfiiiiBoy Жыл бұрын

    super video :)

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR3 ай бұрын

    There is a FPGA replacement for AGNUS and others follow from the project Amiga custom chip replacement project

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    3 ай бұрын

    Last I heard that was still a work in progress, is it finished now?

  • @newsolution5669
    @newsolution56697 ай бұрын

    Does anyone have documentation for these specialized integrated circuits and 68060 processors? Where can I download documentation for these chips? Does anyone have any information on this?! Because I would love to see how they built it back then.

  • @RobertBullock
    @RobertBullock9 ай бұрын

    I have an original 2000 with SCSI card and iirc a Ram expansion. Need to get it out and get back into it. Scsi2sd card. And I have some ram for the scsi card to install.

  • @akkudakkupl
    @akkudakkupl Жыл бұрын

    This is fucken cool. What would be cooler is if some or all of the chipset got replaced by CPLD's so we don't have to source pricy and scarce chips (and can have the max chip RAM configuration for cheap/get AGA in this form factor without ZIII).

  • @Fred_le_lorrain
    @Fred_le_lorrain Жыл бұрын

    Hi, it's a very great job. Nice to see an eternal Amiga in 2022. And what case to use with this mainboard? Cruel dilemna. I hope next video very soon. Bye.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Part 2 should be ready for Sunday. Everything is now here its just a matter of getting it done!

  • @GboabGman
    @GboabGman Жыл бұрын

    I have an ultrasonic cleaner that will fit your pcb, only problem is i'm in Glasgow and you would either need to bring it over or post it over.

  • @prozacgodretro
    @prozacgodretro Жыл бұрын

    wait... so you could make a rack mount amiga.... HMMMMMMM... lol who am I kidding, that's a LOT of work! would be nifty though. Little Amiga server.

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight Жыл бұрын

    I would look for an old 'flip top' or rack mount case- as a starting point and maybe mod that - as its the closest your going to get to the tank of a case that the original '2000's came with, if you were so inclined you could always take a dremel and a couple of cans of paint to it for something unique

  • @kreskogym
    @kreskogym Жыл бұрын

    Nice job! But knife solder tip is much beter for smd components!

  • @newsolution5669
    @newsolution56697 ай бұрын

    Do you know where the information about Chip memory addressing in Amiga is stored? I know Amiga can have two 2MB ram chips. can't this be changed? In which integrated circuit could this information be stored? PS: would it be possible to change this memory to a faster one? and for a bigger one?

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    7 ай бұрын

    Its handled by AGNUS, the maximum chip is 2mb I'm afraid. The only way to go above that is with emulation in WinUAE.

  • @newsolution5669

    @newsolution5669

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​@@CRGI don't want an emulator! emulators are the way to nowhere. Dead end. Can't you somehow reprogram Agnus or trick him? is there any chance to replace it with a new integrated circuit? with new fast memory ?? who has documentation for Agnus? where is the Agnus documentation and diagrams? are you sure that the addressing does not go through Rom?

  • @bryansillman3240
    @bryansillman32408 ай бұрын

    Is this a kit that comes with the parts (minus the custom chips)? Please clarify.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    8 ай бұрын

    No it's not a kit as such. All information you need to build one is available on the GitHub. At the most basic level you send the gerber's to the pcb manufacturer, they will make the board, you purchase all the parts and fit them. We went a step further and got JLC to fit some components for us. The only reason we didn't get them to do more was because they didn't have stock or it was considerably cheaper to do it ourselves. To get the PCB manufacturer to do this though we had to create a pick and place file. I'm not sure if this has been added to the github. Sourcing components was also tricky as to keep costs down they ended up coming from multiple places (digikey, mouser, AliExpress, eBay etc) and that doesn't include the chipset. It was a tricky build but absolutely worth it. By far my favourite Amiga.

  • @bryansillman3240

    @bryansillman3240

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your timely feedback. I'm in a tricky situation. I have a 2K motherboard that experienced the "battery leak" problem. I'm reasonably sure the custom chips are OK because they are socketed. Because of this, I was considering all my options, including having the board professionally "fixed" - or possibly picking up this "kit" (I don't know what else to call it) - and using all the original components to rebuild it up to active ability again. I do have good de-soldering/soldering skills (although I feel it would be wise for me to “practice” for a month before entertaining/engaging a project like this.) Your project showed me more about the process that I was aware of. I can see how extremely educational and a “spiritual” success this would be, accomplishing something like this - along with much input, along the way. My meditation on the problem contiues!

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Glen! Who's discord was it again? ;) Looking forward to part 2!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Can't remember, some guy who works on carpet 😉🤣 Thanks Chris for allowing us to take over your discord for all the discussion around this build. Part 2 coming this weekend I hope.

  • @GadgetUK164

    @GadgetUK164

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG Correction : Worked on carpet =D No worries! Thought you were deliberately ghosting me for a minute!

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GadgetUK164 Absolutely not mate and please don't think that. I'm forever grateful for the support you and others from your discord have given me over the years.

  • @mcochran9860
    @mcochran9860 Жыл бұрын

    It's the dimensions of the board that decides the case you can use, My super micro server boards are best put in a old mac pro g5 case, the one with only 1 cdrom drive. Because the other cases I bought that was eatx Just wouldn't fit it. I bought one, thinking all eatx was same size. A old flip top ibm type case also a good choice for me and my dual cpu server boards, that are huge and not standard sized. The problem I had with the ibm pc case was some graphic cards/gpu's too tall with power cables attached. So how tall are the cards and cables going to be? Things to be considered. My mac pro 5 version of my server builds I think work the best and have the most room for things.. If you like Hacked retro. Seems to be the roomiest case not too expensive on ebay.

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    I have now since built it into a case which you can see in the part 2 video, the last 10 minutes or so if you want to skip to that part. One thing I quickly learned is that EATX isn't a defined standard in terms of board size. this board is 330x305mm and the only way I could figure out what case to use was to look for one with 4 screw holes in a row for mounting the motherboard.

  • @vertigoz
    @vertigoz Жыл бұрын

    Instead of having 68k CPU could it be made to have pistorm embedded right on the motherboard or it doesn't make any sense?

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    There's certainly nothing stopping you fitting a pistorm either into the 68k socket or the CPU slot. In conversation with the designer of this board about a few things he stated that he wanted to keep it as original as possible which I can fully appreciate. For example a PS2 keyboard interface or scan doubler on board would have been nice but there are other solutions for that.

  • @vertigoz

    @vertigoz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG the thing is, 68k are getting harder to get by the day, therefore I thought that since this is a costum board it would make sense to embed pistorm on it

  • @KarlHamilton
    @KarlHamilton2 ай бұрын

    Ooh!! Can you fix my A4000T? Need Matze's active bus termination fix so I can run it at 100MHz without losing the top 2 Zorro slots.

  • @Stefan_Payne
    @Stefan_Payne Жыл бұрын

    About the Case: There is an issue with modern Cases. They don't have any external 3,5" bays that you need for the floppy or a GOTEK. So that's an issue. Heck even internal 3,5" bays are becoming rare these days... 5¼" Bays are not as hard, so you need at least a 3½" to 5¼" Frame thing and then use a Case that is made that allows E-ATX and has a 5¼" Bay. The be quiet Dark Base 900 would fit that, but that's not cheap... So you might want to look for older SERVER/WORKSTATION cases perhaps? Or go with a good old Desktop one...

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes new cases with external drive bays are very hard to find. I've got a plan though.

  • @Stefan_Payne

    @Stefan_Payne

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG Silverstone Grandia GD-08 or GD09 perhaps? Though you need a 5¼" Adaptor, but that shouldn't be a Problem. A black FDD (Cover) is also something you might want. Skinflint (UK Version of Geizhals) should give you a good idea of what you could get and has some nice search options as well.

  • @envoycdx
    @envoycdx Жыл бұрын

    Best pause and make a brew..

  • @CRG

    @CRG

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah sorry this a long one, although there's a lot of work to get through 😉

  • @envoycdx

    @envoycdx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CRG Sorry? Are you mad???? Keep them rolling. :)

  • @envoycdx

    @envoycdx

    Жыл бұрын

    Just finished - looking forward to the next instalment. With regards to cases, it is very much a personal thing. A plain beige, or black case would be my preference. I appreciate you wanting the window, it would be nice to show off the internals if you're going to give it pride of place on the bench somewhere. Cable runs will be interesting given the ATX power supply connection location though?

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 Жыл бұрын

    Dood the Mac Classic Reloaded MoBo just shipped. You can clear most flux like near ultrasonic cleaning by using nail polish remover.

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