After watching Martin trying to build the MMX for several years, I wonder what world of pain we're about to see unfold here.

@ETG168

7 ай бұрын

Feature creep + undefined goals are a hell of a drug

@ndupontnet

7 ай бұрын

Man it seemed so close and easy when meeting him with the first 3D printed MMX prototype parts in May 2017 at the Speelklok Museum

@FAB1150

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Martin can't stop feature creep from getting into the project

@VincentGroenewold

7 ай бұрын

Difference being that Ivan has more of an engineering mindset, that likely helps. I also don't see him find inspiration, direction-wise, in questionable books. :)

@AnthemUnanthemed

7 ай бұрын

3 years later "so I've re designed based on specific principles that will not change, no more elevator just a basic easy run so I can know the time"

Wintergatan engineering nightmare moment

@rodneybever9583

7 ай бұрын

Exactly where my mind went!

@MeteorMark

6 ай бұрын

The Infamous Floor Marbles 😂

@DaleDix

6 ай бұрын

I don't think this guy is going to throw people's good money away chasing a dream beyond his capabilities.

And another KZreadr loses his marbles embarking on a years long mission to tame the mighty marble :)

@XCanG

7 ай бұрын

Wintergatan Vietnam flashbacks

@MrFlashpoint1978

7 ай бұрын

There's only one KZreadr that has succeeded in their quest. Jelle of Jelle's Marble Runs.

14:44 Did anyone else notice the Subscribe button glow and light up when he told us to subscribe? I have never seen that before, but this project and that magic he pulled has earned my subscription. Would love to see you finish this awesome project!

@chapterblaq

5 ай бұрын

It's not just you. My shit glew like a rainbow. My (his) subscribe button. Do you have youtube premium? It might be a new feature 😂 I have premium and I see strange new stuff sometimes too. (like being able to post shorts instead of comments... Which I only see on certain videos)

@aquaticdeer42069

5 ай бұрын

@@chapterblaq Holy moly I didn't think about that. I did recently get youtube premium. Pretty nice. They do be adding lots of little changes I've noticed as well. Like the borders of videos being rounded and what not. Very cool and thank you kind person on the internet for letting me know it wasn't just me. I am not going crazy.. yet. Only a matter of time y'all, never forget.

@wondermittens1844

5 ай бұрын

@@chapterblaqI don’t have premium and I’ve been seeing that for a little while now

@aclutchboy5389

5 ай бұрын

@@chapterblaq If the creator says "subscribe" or "like and subscribe" It likes up rainbow.

@user-kp5vf1fl4j

5 ай бұрын

😢😢​@@chapterblaq

Es de las pocas veces que veo a alguien español atreviéndose a hablar en inglés en KZread y me alegra, parece que nos da vergüenza o algo, ojalá más gente como tú. ¡Brutal el proyecto!

I love this idea, but I can't help but thinking that breaking it down into individual digits that change vertically downward would make it slightly easier. Have a nozzle of marbles that deposits the right amount of each color into a buffer, release the lower number from the 'display', release the upper number down to that in the 'display,' repeat. Still a herculean effort but you have more time to prepare the display, and more help from gravity in advancing it

@randomdosing7535

7 ай бұрын

I have exactly that idea of marble clock for years now. Even I was thinking to patent. Bit sad that he has built almost built it in public

@ianr2002

7 ай бұрын

You don't even need a buffer that sorts marbles. If the modules are vertical, you can just leave the marbles preset for all 10 digits and have a way to store them in that order. No sorting or complex robotics required

@xd-qi6ry

7 ай бұрын

He’s trying to make it work the simplest way possible, its meant to be a challenge.

@johndorian4078

7 ай бұрын

That was my thought too, it seems like it would be simpler to only change 1 number but will be interesting to see finished project

@PhilBagels

7 ай бұрын

And since the digits are made of pixels, you don't even have to use the seven segment display style. You could use more natural-looking numerals.

Looking forward to see how this turns out! Also loving the black filament 😄

@ivanmirandawastaken

7 ай бұрын

Thanks guys!

@SkellyBoii03

7 ай бұрын

@@ivanmirandawastaken Eres de España verdad, se nota un poco, pero, el vídeo está muy guapo.

As someone who tried to design a contraption to sort black and white marbles at secondary school, over 50 years ago, and never got anywhere close to a working solution - I'm very much looking forward to the next episode. Your ingenuity and skills are inspirational - please continue making things and sharing the highs and lows.

@Bazarack

7 ай бұрын

It probably wasn't easy 50 years ago. Now, I think that an ordinary LED, a photoresistor and a microcontroller may be enough, but I'm curious how it will be solved :)

@amzarnacht6710

7 ай бұрын

I'm sensing either a camera based system or photo-sensor to detect black from white and eject the 'incorrect' marbles as they ascend the lifter. OFC that would need some pretty extensive programing to know what marble needs to be where in the 'display' raceway. I've seen videos of industrial sorting machines doing this with air nozzles to kick out - for instance - bad product from ripe product in sorting lines at hundreds of frames per second, ejecting 'dross' so fast it takes a high speed camera to detect it.

@justinc2633

7 ай бұрын

@@Bazarack im curious how you would go about using those components to separate black from white?

@epiphaner

7 ай бұрын

​@@justinc2633have the marble roll through a shroud where a led shines on it and a photoresistor catches the light reflected off the marble. Hook up the photoresistor as a voltage divider (needs another resistor, but that is usually built-in to the microcontroller) to an ADC capable microcontroller to sense the changes in resistance/voltage/light. Measure the amount of light reflected for marbles of both colors to determine a good cutoff value. Program the microcontroller such that when the light reflected is above the cutoff value, the marble is sorted as white, otherwise the marble is sorted as black. If something about my explanation is unclear, please let me know in a reply so I can amend or supplement it.

@slam1385

7 ай бұрын

instead of the resistor, use a photodiode because it's faster. shine the led onto the marble and with the photodiode you can measure the amount of light the marble reflects. If it reflects a lot of light, it's white and if it reflects not much light it's black. With this info you can trigger a "pusher" of some sort to put the marble which is currently passing through the sensor into different containers. @@justinc2633

Right now it's a cool marble raceway! I can't wait to see how you separate the black from the white and arrange them to be in the correct order.

@alfvicente

7 ай бұрын

Maybe if he replaces one color with metal marbles he could attract them with a magnet or something... Great video!

@amzarnacht6710

7 ай бұрын

That will be quite the challenge, indeed. Only manner I could see that working is having gates or pins to limit what color will enter each hole at what time. Using metal and magnets would be far too heavy. Or, like the ejector assembly at the top, have one just above the input to 'eject' the wrong colors back down into the loading platter.

@testman9541

7 ай бұрын

Eject the bad ones while climbing seem to be the simpler to implement. Color reader sensor, solenoid and the pins to eject 🎉 add a capture track to merge them back at the bottom and that is it. 😅

@testman9541

7 ай бұрын

​@@alfvicenteMartin has shown that messing with metal and magnet is a bad idea😢 balls will then tend to get magnetized all along and get stuck then in the paths.... Pls a marble machine should be made of marble marbles ey 🥳

@buzz1ebee

7 ай бұрын

​@@testman9541yeah this is the way it's gonna be done. Marbles are quite shiny though so calibrating the sensors could prove to be a bit tricky. Black and white is just a difference in sensitivity, but shiny black marbles detected at the highest point in the marble will reflect as much light as white marbles at the edges. Moving the sensor a bit further away to average out each marble is probably the way to go. And only rejecting white marbles will make things easier. One sensor rejects white marbles and another counts black marbles is probably the most stable way of doing it. Means 2 simple on/off sensor configs rather than 1 sensor trying to differentiate between the black background, black marbles, and white marbles all at the same time. Bit cheaper doing it with 1, but going to be a lot harder to dial each lane in.

This is an awesome project. A brush at the bottom of the ramp, hanging from the marble catcher should absorb all the excess energy and reduce your marble loss significantly, if you're still losing your marbles. Was really curious on how you were going to reorganize the colors on a fixed track.

Oh Gosh, I feel like a 12 years old watching this, what a nostalgic feeling. MORE CONTENT PLEASE... Thank you for the marble idea!

"It's only a small marble clock. How hard can it be?" *Wintergatan screaming from a distance*

Can't wait to see how you separate the marbles by color. I think a clock that updates every 5-10 minutes would be impressive let alone every minute. I wonder if using steel balls and electro magnets might be the play instead of white marbles. BUT IDK I am not an engineer and can't wait to see this finished.

@medivalone

7 ай бұрын

I think ball bearings for white, and the glass marbles for black then you can select with magnets

@medivalone

7 ай бұрын

Or maybe a camera looking at the marble lift that can reject marbles directly to the basin (or add another track that isn't stopped by the big gate).

@FoxDog1080

7 ай бұрын

Color sensor

@dylanotto1675

7 ай бұрын

I think having two different weights or two different diameters would be the easiest. otherwise you need a camera and a computer circuit.

@stuartfisher4210

7 ай бұрын

Yup this @@FoxDog1080. Cheap and easy to interface with a microcontroller like an Arduino. Then a servo directing the marble to one of two chutes from which the clock can select marbles to go into the top of the machine. At least, that's the theory I'd follow.

Seems like an oversight to not have made the marbles drop vertically so you could have only flushed the minutes, 10 minute and hour marbles as necessary rather than resetting the WHOLE display every time.

@bogmaerke

7 ай бұрын

I think KZreadrs are under a lot of pressure in regards to time when it comes to doing projects and uploading videos. Maybe that's why.

@ScubaStevo94

7 ай бұрын

Honestly I think he's using the rule of cool here. Something about seeing all the rows move instead of just specific ones scratches a certain itch in the brain

@ivanmirandawastaken

7 ай бұрын

It is one of endless possibilities, I could have made the marbles be individually swapped too but I had to stop somewhere.

@Android480

7 ай бұрын

At that point just use a ticker tape then. Doesn’t really feel like marbles.

@bradley3549

7 ай бұрын

@@ivanmirandawastaken I'll reserve my judgement for when I figure out how you're going to determine which color goes where and whether you can do it within 60 seconds! 😁

My favorite KZread genre is Marble Contraptions. Let me tell you how refreshing it is to see a project with reasonable goals rather than be subject to endless feature creep and perfection paralysis! Good idea, good work, and good machine!

@arklanuthoslin

7 ай бұрын

you don't know who you're watching, do you? :D

@user-wo7rl4nm7w

7 ай бұрын

Do you watch martin from wintergaten

@arklanuthoslin

7 ай бұрын

i've seen a couple vidoes, it's on my list to catch up with. I understood your reference to him. Simply meant Ivan does it too. probably to a lesser degree, though. meant in jest. @@user-wo7rl4nm7w

I thought he had been too quiet…. 😂 Edit: STRONGEST BACK IN KZread!!

Winter gartan had lots of headaches with marbles and has a lot of great solutions. You should have some vertical tubes that the marbles run over, and an adruiono that selects if the tube should open and let the marble drop, based on the color needed.

Amazing project Ivan! 🤘😎🤘 can't wait to see the future updates!

Watching those marbles fall down only to get scooped up and dropped again, one must imagine Sisyphus happy.

I’m a 65 year old woman with zero skills that require more than a hammer or screwdriver. But I was fascinated by your tenacity. Can’t wait for Pt 2. Can’t even imagine how you’re going to make this work. But I have faith that it will happen. Got a new subscriber here. Build on. 😊

Love the project you got this! Marbles are like water, finding their own way… Strongest back on all of youtube 😂 👨‍🍳👌

@Nightmarecit

7 ай бұрын

As someone that's watchinh since the begining of Wintergatan X... This dude is on for a LOOOONG ride (also getting on the same pitfalls as you is kinda painfull)

If you adjust the channels vertically, you can easily track and measure changes in individual time increments. You can account for the units of seconds, then the decades of seconds, then the hours, and finally, the decades of hours :)

So glad the youtube algo sent this video my way. Now to go back and binge watch everything.

Excitedly waiting to see how you are going to separate the marbles by color, and selecting what marbles to push out, all while making sure the order is kept properly!

But… can it play music?

@pkchutrainer

7 ай бұрын

Wintergaten issues.

@NeonNijahn

7 ай бұрын

"Tight " music

I appreciate your dedication to sanding and making custom sanding tools. Great work!

@ivanmirandawastaken

7 ай бұрын

I knew you would 😉 thanks!!

Oh no! We can not lose another great KZreadr to the marbles!

this is probably the most realistic diy video ive ever seen, the guy listens to music while he is working, you just dont see that anywhere else

This looks super cool! Thank´s for your amazing content 💜

I love how you make design insanity a new normal!

If I've learned anything from watching Wintergatan, it's that marbles are a right pain in the ass to do anything with.

Good luck! Really looking forward to watching "BUILDING A MARBLE CLOCK - Pt.196: MAYBE WE CAN INCLUDE SECONDS AFTER ALL?? (DESIGN EXPLODES AGAIN)" in a few years! :P

Impresionante! Podrías girar 90 grados las pistas para descartar solo las bolas de los minutos con cada cambio de minuto. Esperando el siguiente!

Awesome project! To stop the marbles jumping out of the bottom tray, how about narrowing the exit from the "covered" section. I.e. if the exit gate is only 1.2-1.5 marbles high then they won't jump out as easily. Now for the elephant in the room, how are you planning to sort the marbles before building up the time display? Might I suggest switching to steel and ceramic ball bearings? This would give you 3 easy ways to sort the marbles and the marbles would all be a uniform size. (weight, magnetism, and conductivity)

@JohnWatkinsUK

7 ай бұрын

I think he is going to reject unwanted colour marbles from the elevator by using maybe a set of simple infrared detectors and popping them off the elevator ,back down to the collection area as they rise.

@martylawson1638

7 ай бұрын

@@JohnWatkinsUK that's a great idea. Didn't think of it initially as it's not very efficient. But it's lots simpler and should get the job done as long as he can cycle enough marbles past the selectors.

@Yay295

7 ай бұрын

@@JohnWatkinsUK Infrared/color detectors often have issues with shiny materials though, and his current marbles are made of glass.

@amzarnacht6710

7 ай бұрын

Steel bearings and magnets would be far too heavy for that frame. I suspect he'll go with what @JohnWatkinsUK said, using low-res sensors rather than infrared - detecting only black and white. That'll cut down on the glossy-error issues.

@justinc2633

7 ай бұрын

@@JohnWatkinsUK would an infrared sensor be consistent enough? and hows he going to eject them? i thought maybe replacing the little fingers that poke them out of the elevator with individually controlled ones using servos, eject white, let the black fall into their own track, and to load them back up each row would need access to both colours, thats a whole other thing though

Design concepts that use 3D printing for something that would be super, super hard to fabricate by other means are the _best_ concepts. Fantastic stuff!

The algorithm has brought me another impossible marble project. Circuits be praised.

Great project idea but you're going to run into a problem with the marble bias at the end, most of the marbles want to end up in the far right corner, which affects which gate they come out of on top. Additionally you need a sorting mechanism between black and white marbles, or else your clocks activity will be entirely dependent upon your total supply of black and white marbles. Not only the sorting mechanism but a stacking mechanism that picks and chooses where black and white marbles go into each channel to display the numbers you want to see. Of course all of this would have to occur within 60 second intervals so that you have hour and minute time scale. Although not an immediate problem, the mechanism for popping the marbles out of the lifter is rubbing on the backside of the lift belt, short term this is fine but long term either the popper will rub down and no longer be effective, break, or even wear grooves into the backside of the belt which may affect operation. It's a super cool clock idea but a bit of a mechanical nightmare to employ. Ironically I'd argue that you don't have to worry too much about your tolerances for the marble gates and paths and the marbles themselves, you spent a colossal amount of time making it all so precise when you could've designed around the marble size being inconsistent, in the belt the size matters more but a design change could mitigate that too, just a thought as far as overloading yourself with work goes.

"Hourglass style clock doesn't work with marbles, how do we tell the time?" Ivan: "Hold my beer."

@ivanmirandawastaken

7 ай бұрын

You kmow I'm not easily disuaded 😅

Good way to make a mini-horse track. lol "Alright, ladies and gentlemen. The marbles all have numbers, pick yours and place your bets!"

there's something satisfying about watching Ivan Miranda build.

Ivan, me fascina como consigues todo esto. La expansion de tu canal es 100% merecida. Suerte en el futuro!

Iḿ very much wondering how you wil lget the marbles in the right order to display the next time, mybe just bypassing unfitting marbles in each row when they come towards the display section. could be done with a simple light sensor (like the line follower bots) and an arduino that keeps track of which marble is needed....sounds like a nightmare to code...

@ivanmirandawastaken

7 ай бұрын

It is a nightmare to code but not near as hard as to make all the rest work properly 😅

This is going to be the loudest clock ever. Can't wait!

I'm excited to see how this continues! I really enjoyed seeing your thought process throughout the project.

But... ITS NOT RED!!

Iván! Qué buen proyecto! Claro que cuesta y ya sabes, el artesano tiene su mayor valor por las herramientas que hace a la medida para erguir sus creaciones! Así que sería super interesante que hagas un video también sobre esas herramientas que lograste hacer 🎉 Increíble trabajo!❤

Watching smart people being smart is the greatest thing KZread could ever offer.

What a fun, weird project. Personally I think you like the chaos of all those marbles hitting the floor. I’m dubious that you could make that a feature of the final machine, so enjoy it while you can!

I love how right at the end he mentions how he had to reprint the mesh cap to prevent the marvels to jump out the machine, and just 1 second before the video ended he had like 10 marvels escaped with the new part installed. So painful.

I'm just waiting for the episode where Ivan starts making his own glass marbles.

Proof that you should work smarter not harder, martin should take couple notes from this guy

I have two suggestions for you: 1_ use metallic marbles ( it's They are all the same size and very smooth and do not create such a rough surface like glass marbles, then just paint it in white and black) 2_ Use Dry lubricants like graphite and molybdenum disulfide on the threads or paths , it will make your marbles traffic very smooth.

@robertheinkel6225

7 ай бұрын

If you heat up the bearings to red hot, they turn blue and stay that way.

Thank you KZread for suggesting me this channel!

Let the marbles hit the floor, let the marbles hit the floor, LET THE MARBLES HIT THE FLOOOOOOR. Sorry, I'm better now. This looks super fun! Can't wait to see how you sort white from black to get the numbers to display properly. Thanks for sharing!

I like that he just continuously lets marbles fall onto the floor

Thank god there are enough crazy stubborn tenacious people out there knowing how to handle a camera to fill my evenings with entertainment!

His face at the end when his fix didn't do the job... chef's kiss

I like just listening to this guy talk. He sounds so positive.

can't wait to see it working. 1 thing that came up in my mind is that if you let the Mable display change vertically, you would be able to change the numbers individually. Then at the hour change, there would be a lot more noise/action. however, for the show/action, horizontally is most likely more fun

if the ticking noise of the marble lift happened once every second, that'd be amazing. :D

Thermochromic paint them all. Pre-chamber with a grid of heaters that warm up the time ones. No sorting required, just some thought about control circuits. They’ll have cooled back down by the time they’ve climbed the lift. Possibly run them through a water bath on the way back. Might allow for 1min updates. Actually closer to an LCD than having different colour marbles.

In the most fun way possible, I like that your accent is like a test on my brain to how well I know English, it’s kinda like a game every video

I can relate to this sentiment: "am I gonna finish this project or is it gonna finish me" 😆

Niesamowita konstrukcja. Lubię oglądać konstrukcje domowej roboty

Big MMX vibes here. The sound, good memories.

Can't help but to think about Martin Molin whenever the word 'Marble Gate' is uttered lol

oh boy, that pause at 6:03 was really funny, great work!

Looks awesome … can’t wait for part 2!

Marble machine X, Ivan Miranda edition. Welcome to the next 10 years of content on this channel, lol. Good luck Ivan.

his disappointment at the end when he sees the marbles flying of the ramp is hilarious

First I thought "why doesn't he just let the marbles roll out of the marble lift on the other side?" But after seeing - and hearing - the marble dismount mechanism in action, I see the reason. I absolutely love how it ticks like a clockwork.

Ivan is a mechanical engineer on another level if he can get this clock to work!

This is bringing back so many memories from the MMX! I hope with your experience in building things you can solve the problems a little more easily than Martin.

Fukineh! Beautiful work buddy. The "it works" realization is priceless. I literally lol. Hilarious. You are so smart even when some silly thing like that happens. Thanks! Cheers!

known what martin had to go through just to get the marbles going, you still have a *long* way to go

The lenghts some people are ready to go to just not having to read an analog Clock. Great projekt ;)

Awesome project - love seeing how you go through this fixing all the mistakes that occur in such a project 🚀

Ivan you've built and incredible machine. The springy combs to eject the marbles is brilliant but whats better is that clunk, clunk sound it makes. That adds a new dimension to a mechanical clock. Your dedication and engineering is top class. Thanks for showing us and I cant wait to see the progression.

@nicksims2827

6 ай бұрын

Yes, it would be extra cool if it moved every second or half second

Can't wait for part 167

Even without the clock, this is pretty cool.

If you thought the •tick•tick•tick• of a normal clock was annoying... Seriously, this is such an inspired alternative to the traditional marble clock. Looking forward to the final finished horologe!

There is a rule that you should follow my good man. At least 10 times per each video you should say "Add some Spacers!!!!". You have been slacking on this lately. I cannot wait to see how this progresses! It would be fun to see you and Wintergatan work one something together.

Wintergatan PTSD just kicked in

Very excited to see parts 2-6 where the really tough parts are going to be.

This video was the first I’ve ever seen of yours and I absolutely love this idea. I love marbles and the tracks. This whole thing reminds me of a motorcycle racing game I played with at my grandparents’ house as a kid and was a nice few memories to have. Thanks for this and I’m really looking forward to your next video on this!

This man must be supported.Thats a big patience.

Just the shots needed for the video and the stitching and editing I imagine took weeks. The design and thought going into the machine itself? I can't imagine. Can't wait for the next parts.

Ivan, you are my favorite crazy maker on KZread...and also have the strongest back!

The "I lost them" killed me :'D

looking forward to part 2! the algorithm seems to like your enthusiam!

Could also display a QR code with that. Excited to see more.

@ivanmirandawastaken

7 ай бұрын

I guess so, in the end it is just a display right?

15:08 WOW, just WOW! Can't wait for the next video on this most impressive task.

I see a lot of comments mentioning how each digit should be vertical, so you only have to change one at a time instead of all four - but guys, that would be logical and easier! this is Ivan! when has he ever let silly likngs like that stop him? :D He actually lost his marbles this time, I love this channel.

Increíble proyecto, muchas gracias por todo tu trabajo, es realmente inspirador

Deja vú... See ya'll in a couple of years when Ivan scraps Marble Clock X and starts on Marble Clock 3

Getting the strongest back on all of KZread!

Your joy and enthusiasm is contagious

Another channel in marble hell :) . I believe marbles exist only to make engineers go crazy or depressed. Keep your head up Ivan! And don't let yourself become like Martin.

A "Mad Scientist" and his "Laboratory". Love the videos and adore the projects!

This is like watching 4 months of MMX development in one video