Building A High-Performance Ford Windsor To Drop In A 900+ HP Turbo Stang - Horsepower S12, E18
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The HorsePower guys take an old former project car, a '92 Mustang, and start transforming it into a serious street/strip monster. Starting with a Ford Windsor block, they build a motor with extra high-performance race parts. All this in preparation for a turbocharger that'll help it make 900+ horsepower. #turbo #horsepower
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Accufab,Inc.: Clamshell clamp custom 90mm throttle body, clamshell clamp, 4" ferrule, IAC block off plate, throttle position sensor.
ARP: Harmonic balancer bolt, accessory kit stainless steel 12pt., head studs with 12 pt. nuts, flexplate bolts, oil pump driveshaft.
ATI Performance Products: OEM 4 bolt 6.37 diameter Super Damper harmonic balancer.
Calico Coatings: Main bearing sets, rod bearing sets, Durabond cam set.
CP Pistons: Custom pistons, rings, wrist pins, and locks.
Crower Cams & Equipment Co., Inc.: 4340 Forged steel crankshaft custom stroke, Maxi-Light #5 connecting rods, severe duty roller lifters,8620 billet roller camshaft.
Crower Cams & Equipment Co., Inc.: One-piece pushrod 5/16" 8.350 length.
Crower Cams & Equipment Co., Inc.: Shaft mounted rocker arms 1.6 ratio.
Federal-Mogul Corporation: Performance head gaskets, rear main bearing seal, Permadry Plus oil pan gasket, performance valve covers,performance R.A.C.E. set, Performance intake manifold set, Performance exhaust set.
Hellion Power Systems: Turbonetics Turbocharger (88mm), 16 gauge Stainless Steel hot and cold parts (Mild Steel Headers), Spearco high flow air to air intercooler, High flow Turbonetics wastegate, Silicone hose kit, Stainless T-bolt clamp kit, 45 mm Blow-off valve, Oil feed and drain lines. All other necessary hardware to install kit.
Loctite: Threadlocking compound.
Meziere Enterprises,Inc.: Electric water pump, high flow style, fits small block Ford Windsor/5.0, 55GPM, standard motor, blue. Water neck, fits small block Ford windsor and 5.0, 1 1/2" hose exit, blue. Coolant Recovery Tank, 28 ounce capacity, 2"x3"x10", blue.
Milodon: 351W Oil pan, pickup assembly, filter block adapter, single filter kit.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Melling high volume oil pump.
Robert Bosch LLC: High performance "blue top" fuel injectors. 1680cc (160lb/hr).
Summit Racing: Ford Motorsports thrust plate, Summit oil dipstick, Summit timing chain cover, Cloyes timing chain set.
Trick Flow Specialties: Trick Flow CNC ported 225cc cylinder heads with 70cc combustion chambers, Performance head gaskets for use with o-rings, upper plenum kit.
Tube Shark: Shark Pool, bending notching station. Air over Hydraulic bender with ability to perfrom 180 degree bends on all types of tubing square and round.
World Products: Man O' War SBF engine block with 4.030 bore and 9.5" deck, Man O' War polished valve covers.
Пікірлер: 157
I love it. Joe sporting his Ford shirt. BRING HIM BACK FOR A VISIT!!! Or better yet build him a car and give it to him.
@sj7624
3 жыл бұрын
what happen to Joe Elmore?
@chucksgarage7165
3 жыл бұрын
Sarandon J I think he’s still around. I found some fairly recent Facebook activity and I couldn’t find an obituary.
@mattg3971
3 жыл бұрын
@@sj7624 he retired but I think he still does some producing
@jaydawg7
3 жыл бұрын
Joe is beast.
@blakestewart6644
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattg3971 i actually think they showed him the door. I found some short articles on Linked in that he wrote about his absence. Joe Elmore is Powerblock.
Amish Mike and a compound bow - now that's a killer combo!
If only I could afford any of these parts
@bilbobaggins4710
3 жыл бұрын
Rob a bank like I did
Yes this is perfect Saturday morning breakfast and a new episode !!!! Please keep this up
One more tip. Install u-joint with grease fitting closest to driveshaft, not yoke.
Well now I want to do a turbo SBF combination in my ‘70 Mustang. This is awesome!
@aarronwoods6389
3 жыл бұрын
That would be one unassuming mustang. Total sleeper lol
@iangore8563
3 жыл бұрын
That sounds cool
Just in time for breakfast! 😎🍳🥞🧇🥓🧂☕🍺🍽
I read the title fast and thought they were building a 900hp Ford Windstar and I was oddly very intrigued.
Awesome show guys. Well done indeed.
630👍's up power Nation thanks again for taking us all along with you for the great show
It’s been a long time that I seen this . Takes me back to when I was a kid. 👍lobe this videos.make me go outside and work on my own truck and car.
@RedWolfDrift2000
3 жыл бұрын
I got that feeling too!!!!
Joe Elmore for the win!!!
Such a nostalgic episode! Bet it makes 900-1000hp on 12#’s
Good to see a Ford vid,but love the all out n/a builds
Remember way back when 400 horsepower was a great number and 500 HPwas insane lol these days no one gets excited unless your pulling 900 + lmfao
@theicksta
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in my late 20s and remember 300 hp being a great number.
@KacerRex
3 жыл бұрын
@@theicksta Still is, for most street cars that's a good fun number.
@jlj547
3 жыл бұрын
Hey even minivans now a days have 300hp motors in them, I know cause I got one
@eduardoquezada11
2 жыл бұрын
@@KacerRex 300hp is OK at first then you get bored of it and want more power lol
@stevansaunders18
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 so true lol
i dig this no bs show
Finally Ford!
So... doesn't knocking on the balancer hub with a hammer risk damaging the thrust bearing?
@hereinmissoula11
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@alejandroledesma8060
2 жыл бұрын
Yessir, better off just using a couple wrenches
You know, I've wondered what the PB corporate attitude toward the 2nd Amendment was occasionally. Seeing that intro to the circle track story, you guys just confirmed my suspicions...and gained yet another fan for life!
Dude wearing the mechanics outfit must have been the directors brother in law or something
Might be buying an F-250 with a 351W in a few days. Would be fun to do an NA build on it.
@bradnimbus4836
3 жыл бұрын
My first vehicle was a '96 F-250 with a 351w and 4.10's. All stock but it certainly had guts!
@RadDadisRad
3 жыл бұрын
I had an E350 that I put a NA 408W in. It was an awesome van.
@Terminxman
3 жыл бұрын
@@bradnimbus4836 I hope it was better than the 351w I had in an 82 bronco, even in that lighter bronco with a c6 it was a complete dog.
@TheSleepyMechanic0524
3 жыл бұрын
No problems with block splitting either.
@AndyFromm
3 жыл бұрын
@@Terminxman my 92 f150 351w was a dog too, my 95 f150 5.0 ripped.
Great to se another SB Ford build. Got to the end and reminded me of asphalt racing and how the rule makers are once again screwing the SB Fords. Every time Ford comes up with a winning combination the rules change. Wonder why you don't see many Fords on a asphalt track. Sanctioning bodies favor GM is the reason.Sad to see rule makers control who wins races. 2020 Asphalt Late Model Rules. The GM 604 crate motors are allowed a 6500 RPM RPM Chip. The Ford 347 is allowed a 6300 RPM Chip. The GM is allowed to increase rocker arm ratio from stock 1.5 to a 1.6 increasing life close to .030. The Ford must remove there stock ratio from 1.6 to a 1.5 decreasing lift about .030. The GM can install a 1 inch carb spacer the Ford cant use a spacer. NOW YOU KNOW.
@xmo552
3 жыл бұрын
Facts?
@tomhamilton9140
3 жыл бұрын
@@xmo552 Read the rule books all over the country for any class using GM and Ford Crate motors. Facts don't lie. I have seeing this crap go on for over 25 years.
@xmo552
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomhamilton9140 I'm not a racer so idk 🤷♂️ I believe you however.
@lawrencemick1665
Жыл бұрын
It's always been that way. I've heard several times throughout years past in Nascar road racing any kind of racing, where the announcers with no shame at all come right out and say it. We have to slow them Fords down.
No moly lube on the cam lobes or pushrod tips? OTC oil pump from Checker for a 900hp motor?
17:38 When you're in the South and you need TWO pairs of super dorky sunglasses to get the ladies.
@BashfulBones
3 жыл бұрын
Gas station glasses
Is this a stock 351 stroke or a 427 or 460?
Da shine
Hi there here from south africa. Just want to ask did you guys do any V6 engines need some information.
If i drive there can you put my sbc on the dyno to get it dialed in....
Very nice videos 😢
When modifying your engine to produce more power and torque, how do you determine if it well still met emission standards for the state it's registered in ?
@truthliveshere831
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao you buy a car that’s older than a 1999 at least in my state. All I have to meet is safety inspection.
Have you guys heard of WPC treatment? Its a super fancy shot peening process that makes metal slicker than snot without messing with clearances. I would love to see it used in a high revving wannabe nascar screamer build
I don't know if you guys have done this before Oh, but you should do hey up comparison from a stock bottom end chevy 350 and a 351w. Just so we can get an idea what top-end horsepower we can get from both Ford and Chevy performance.
Did they ever finish this build?
If andy johnson kepps winning races. he might get tapped to drive a in the Camping World Truck series.
When describing the lift on the roller cam, Joe said, "with a lift of 158 on the intake and 133 on the exhaust" ..does anyone know what that means?
@mickbrumer
2 жыл бұрын
i think he meant 0.558" and 0.533"
I wish they give price tag on this
Isn't an o-ring supposed to go in an o-ring groove with copper head gaskets?
I forgot about Lou building chasis...damn
At 4:09 Did he say the lift was .158 intake and .133 on exhaust?
@ernestoramirez8545
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bilbobaggins4710
3 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense does it
@wellthatdidntwork
3 жыл бұрын
I wondered the same
@ernestoramirez8545
3 жыл бұрын
Use closed captions
What's up with that 4th gen F-body back there?!
Any time put a seal in like cam or what ever you always pack the seal with grease that away when you hit the seal the spring won't jump out
Did I miss the displacement of this Windsor?
Why are you letting hot oil from the lifter valley splash up unto the bottom of the intake manifold. Couldn't you have fabricated some kind of shield to protect it.
13:48 What was the "feed me money" part about?
@superhereaux
3 жыл бұрын
I think in an older episode they used that same face on an engine or a car, "feed me money" which is what you have to do. It was a long time ago so I'm not 100% sure. Why on that deer this time I don't know.
What year did this come out?
@bilbobaggins4710
3 жыл бұрын
2008
Are you going to list the parts cost ?????
Any idea of a cost estimate on the engine build?
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
My guess all in well over $10k. Turbos aren't cheap. And building the engine to hold it isn't either.
If you well pack all seals with grease you want nock the spring out the back
Summit Asia has 1/2 priced parts
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Yeah what's Joe and Buddy doing these days?
I always thought the Cleveland was considered the better engine. But they seem to focus on Windsor builds. Is it because the Windsor has better aftermarket parts or was i wrong about the Cleveland?
@fraserhenderson7839
3 жыл бұрын
Cleveland 351 is a different engine family with the same displacement. It has larger valves and better cooling but isn't fundamentally a better engine, just a different one. Higher RPM and more HP from the factory.
@NitroUnion
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day the Cleveland’s were killer because they had some of the best flowing factory heads out there, flowing too much in many cases for the small displacement, but as time went on the Windsor aftermarket began to grow and it’s much easier and cheaper these days to make big power with a Windsor than a Cleveland. And factory Windsor engines and parts are so abundant because Ford made them so long. Cleveland’s are hard to find now
@brandonrobertson6327
3 жыл бұрын
Just top a Cleveland heads on your Windsor, best of both worlds.
@cemeteryhill
3 жыл бұрын
Yup Aftermarket. Pretty much what Nitro Union said. Better heads but less availability. Always heard the Windsor had a slightly stronger block too but not sure. The Cleveland Cylinder heads are really some fantastic heads. KZread Channel Drag Boss has a 69' Mercury Cougar that runs 9s with a 408 Cleveland NA. Highly recommend checking it out to learn about Clevelands & fast Cats. I think the Cleveland is a bit better stock but the Windsor is widely available & inexpensive comparatively.
@NitroUnion
3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonrobertson6327 The Clevors are stout combos for sure.
They always leave that extra ugly piece of timing cover gasket exposed. I always trim that off when I’m building a SBF. Great build and video.
@dallascowboys1683
Жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 If you’re talking about cost, I’ve personally have had better luck with the Ford platform. But I’ve been building Fords my whole life. Especially the Cleveland’s. I don’t care what you’re building, it’s all expensive.
How much would it be to make a humvee motor brand new.
@aarronwoods6389
3 жыл бұрын
Which engine?
@jasonmorgan9436
3 жыл бұрын
If it’s a 6.2 diesel I’d do a motor swap
@TheSleepyMechanic0524
3 жыл бұрын
If you have a 6.2/6.5, just go for a Cummins or duramax lmao
@aarronwoods6389
3 жыл бұрын
C7 cat would be cool or even the old 7.2 cat
Hi why the spacer?
@elmerfudpucker3204
3 жыл бұрын
Power.
Awesome video as always,,, it amazes me how you guys don't wear gloves when using oils, decreasers etc . They are highly carsonagenic and can cause big health issues when they soak into the skin....
@markmccarty9793
7 ай бұрын
I've was an industrial mechanic for 41 years! Built several engines! Washed my hands with gas first, then soap and water! Pull those panties outta of ur crack!😂😂😂😂
you never said how much stroke?
yay #1
Does anyone still use 'Tunnel-rams', or is it just turbo &/or superchargers now??
@bmstylee
Жыл бұрын
They are but most of the ones I have seen are guys going for a look. Now forced induction is the way to build a lot of power.
Dont get it twisted the STOCK 302 block will split in half at 600-700hp range this is not something u want to do wo a DART or aftermarket block
Anybody else want to drop this nto a Crown Vic with a manual and go hunting Germany's best?
I need you guys to do this for my 91 Camaro RS. I left it with family while I went to work on the other side of the country. It has been sitting for 8 years. 😢
Uhm, why is the Blower in your Intro running Backwards?
Why tf the u joint section?
Lou built that car for better traction. Check it out.
So you build this 900hp motor, and you get an oil pump from O'reilly??
What happened to it?
Literally any other high performance build they put a carb on it like its 1980, but they can figure out fuel injection for this. Go figure.
@Good-Nuff-Garage
3 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with carburetors?
@LTXwooshie
3 жыл бұрын
@@Good-Nuff-Garage Nothing. I these guys whip a carb on every LS or late model build, and thats not indicative of the real world.
Even with the ARP head studs, those FailPro head gaskets are shit...ESPECIALLY when you're talking about making 900 horsepower. I have had so many problems with Felpro MLS head gaskets and I'll never use them again. I'm not talking shit on Felpro because they do make some really good gaskets and other products, but I've never had any good experiences with their head gaskets.
4.025 bore? is that a ford thing.... usually .020 or .030 or.040 etc
Why does a $5000 crate motor outrun a $20,000 built motor??? Because after they buy the $5000 crate motor, they put another $30,000 in it to make it look legal!! Dadgum boy, everybody knows that!!!🤣
Wow, there is a difference with Pat today. STOP hitting that torque wrench so many times!
@scaven09
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that.
The video over all is one of my fav episodes swish I would have been able to get the full 77 coins for the video but like most things in this wonderful life if you are proactive the. You’ll be amiss
That's not a 410 small block Mopar
@bilbobaggins4710
3 жыл бұрын
I know dummy
@74beeper97
3 жыл бұрын
@@bilbobaggins4710 You obviously aren't a regular watcher of this channel.....
FYI these guys never tell the whole story. that custom crank $2k-$3.7k retail. rockers $1.8k retail. add everything up. 10-15 IN PARTS!. all bolt on? yeah right. when crower and pace send you everything, sure bolt it on. when the $ comes out of your pocket you never just bolt it on. If something fails the manufacturer will say "send it in and we will evaluate it". who's out the time and parts for redo even if their part is bad? YOU. I can never tell if they're being safe, are you guys gonna consistently run an electric water pump or be unsafe? and why don't you run EGT's and an air turbine/fuel flow meter? how did you determine pushrod length? POV clearance? CR? crank stroke? actual valve lift? dur. @ .050 ? so many clearance checks left out. cam thrust? valve adjustment on a big roller shouldnt be done at TDC. no lets spend 8 minutes on u-joints and some guys race program.
It makes no difference marking a driveshaft yoke or not, it's all pluses no matter how you assemble it. I mean you literally can't get it wrong even if you try! Just sayin.
I can’t believe you people cut up that fox! Go buy a freaking kit for building a drag car. Stop cutting up original fox’s!
😁✌🖖👌👍 😎
Why make a point of talking about the fuel pump eccentric when you're using fuel injectors?
@deanstevenson6527
3 жыл бұрын
Chris Daigle : Because thats how the timing advance and retard for the cam is set up. Some pumps on NASCAR EFi systems are still engine operated, there are piston pumps around that use the eccentric.
Here is what kills me about shows like this. It is out of the field of the average Joe. How many people can actually afford to rebuild a motor like this, not many. I have a Windsor I want to rebuild to bad but could never afford to do half if a quarter of what you do. Why not do a show with affordable, reliable parts that the average Joe can afford and show how that works.
55 GPH I Can Piss faster than that .
Come on guys you have to change out those U-joints on an old stump with a socket and hammer, preferably when it is either 100 degrees in the shade or raining cats and dogs. None of that nice and neat in the shop stuff, that takes the fun out of the job not to mention it removes several words from your vocabulary that you will create while doing it the right way.
square tv passed off as new content
The sad part about this video is that you can build a 900hp pump gas Windsor that will out run what they built here. Think about that, NA, Pump gas, and blow this motors doors in. For less money to boot. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4aumdKala65f7A.html