Building a 4" Transmission Line Subwoofer - by SoundBlab
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This small transmission line subwoofer really hits beyond its weight! The driver is from Tang Band (W4-2089 4.5" RBM Mini Flat Panel Subwoofer 4 Ohm). It is a really easy build, and would be an ideal companion in the trunk of a car or for a small desktop speaker setup.
Suggest amplifier power: 80W (RMS)
High-pass filter: 35Hz, Low-pass filter: 160Hz
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Very well done, I listened with a nice pair of headphones and it has an impressive range. Thank you for sharing!
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
Once again a fine build. I always look forward to watching your videos, partly also because of your choice of music in your videos, which is always excellent! I always have a good time when watching your videos! Thanks!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@akuncrazy
3 жыл бұрын
boss, why is the port added a silencer? what is the function?
Small but sounds like a big sub. I like the sound quality of the bass.
Это изумительно пропорциональная и эстетичная вещь! Это говорит о том, что правильная техника всегда выглядит прекрасно, так как всё в ней направлено на функциональность, а не на броский дизайн, рассчитанный на широкого потребителя. Браво 100000000! Спасибо и всего наилучшего! Просто супер!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
My DIY TL sub measures 1½ feet wide, 4⅔ feet high and 2⅓ feet depth. Produces sound that propagate on floor. Real nice subsonic sound.
would have been great to maybe use a di-pole driver to see how much audio spectrum you could cover with just that enclosure. Great build BTW, always enjoy watching your creative new projects.
@jlg23us
4 жыл бұрын
I should know better to watch how I say things. I understand what you're saying, and I understand the complexity of tuning transmission lines. Thank you for highlighting my failure in the english language.
But dude this is perfect!!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Tx
Cool build. The actual science behind the build would make for alot more views. Id like to learn the port science.
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
would really appreciate a video like this for a 10" or 12" subwoofer
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Might be a very large enclosure, but I am also interested to do something like that. Maybe future video...
@jamegumb7298
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab I used a ceramic sewer pipe for a 25cm diameter woofer, 70ish cm high, 40cm total diameter. They need not be too large if you can make the material dead. Sewer pipes can be had here and there for bargains, unused, maybe where you are too? You could also optimise by floor size, I have another sewer pipe, but plastic (other materials too heavy), it is cheap, only 25cm total diameter, and comes in standard length of 5,5m. So, I cut it down to 2,40m exactly to me ceiling, now I need a way to put it upright and be stable enough. IIRC 90cm or so of 10cm reflex pipe will put me at up to 18Hz flat. Big pipes are easy and good. For subs anyway.
@OlavAlexanderMjelde
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamegumb7298 can you make that shaped as many S, so its more compact under a couch?
@VTLIFE-so4dc
4 жыл бұрын
T-Line boxes, by nature are not compact.
@jamegumb7298
4 жыл бұрын
@@OlavAlexanderMjelde Using a ceramic sewer pipe? Unlikely. Plastic sewerpipe? Probably if you have the connector pieces but no idea how that will affect the sound, sharp corners, and 25cm across still means a rather high couch. I optimized for least amount of floorspace, to just take in vertical space instead, not tiny size in general because it really is not.
6:58 im in love.
What are the measurements of the box?
Impressive. I would add a bit more stuffing to tighten it up a bit. I'm listening to it through my two 12" subs and I can't believe how low it goes.
I love these videos!👍🏻
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Love this channel. So interesting watching a craftsman about his work. Subscribed. 👍
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@miclairmiclair876
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab what will happen if u put a bass radiator in front of the bass port
I love the tang band woofers. No other company makes them like they do. I'm gonna use the 5 1/4 inch subwoofer and a slightly larger box.
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@Rydex
9 ай бұрын
i really do appreciate those tang band subs, i used to have a z2300 but the amp died and then a few days ago i decided to build a new enclosure for it and it bangs. The sub that was used in the Z2300 is the Tang Band W8-670Q which is now fitted into a ~100Liter enclosure tuned to 30Hz which gives me a F3 of around 27Hz and a relatively flat respone
the stuffing is at the beggining of the line
@joeygonzo
3 жыл бұрын
lol
Impressive results
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
I can see that having a table saw making accurate cutting really easy . It's not so easy free hand with a circular saw
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
It does, but only if set up accurately. You can use a guide rail with the circular saw and still get very accurate cuts.
@weareallbeingwatched4602
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab you can also take a cut sheet to your timber merchant and they will pre-cut stock to size for you to an accuracy of plus minus a couple of mm, which can then be flush trimmed to final size with a router and a metal guide rail if you need absolutely hair-splitting accuracy.
@ShawnPitman
4 жыл бұрын
You can get some linear guides for a circular saw. Very effective! And cheap!
@penttijakonen3817
4 жыл бұрын
@@weareallbeingwatched4602 That's what I do. I'm not going to make things way harder for myself just to save pocket change.
I do wish I could get this Subwoofer in my part of the world! Shipping to NZ is a killer!
👍🏻 Good work as always ! From Germany 🇩🇪
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Frambhueee
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab you didn't take my design for a subwoofer 😢
Stunning build boet!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Great video, i really enjoyed this!
@SoundBlab
Жыл бұрын
Dankie 😊
Brilliant, love it!
@SoundBlab
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
You should have covered the bottom air passage with black net.
@Blackinterceptor999
3 жыл бұрын
And use copper binding posts instead of a cup.
Simply superb
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
can you show as how its sound when is on the car ? :) love this small projects :)
Nice video if u can plan a slim hideaway sub so that the home minister doesn’t complain. Would be great. Also slim line array using Tang band sound modules
So interesting watching this video nice finish job
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Good work Man. From BRAZIL
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Tx
Great diy product build sir 😀👍🇧🇩
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I would incorporate that into a high efficiency Bluetooth boom box build.
Bass is awesome 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Nice work sir
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Tx
good. perfect project
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Solid bass 💪
@SoundBlab
11 ай бұрын
👊
Made my first with some old tear down parts of old stuff, not as small, due to needed to be at least 12”x14”x and went with x 10 sidewall which placed ext. wall and act as side ports for surround acoustic with additional top ported tube. I have very minor knowledge on boxes or properly distributing sound. The 4” micro sub is in its own separate box within the box as sorta of a double boxed concept acting as a double semi compressed bass -air-per-cubic ft. Which i was iffy about. And only using 2 smaller 3inch full range audio speakers in front of box and i only designed 2 split sound walls to control the acoustic to ported sidewalls , which front to rear go 7 inches to back- once again i have no clue what i am doing , to know whats best. Lol just and idea of how i thought i wanted it to work with lil to no knowledge . Let me tell you something though. The quality of 300deg. Sound shocked more than just i ! They bass shakes whatever you did not know was loose in the house or area. The neighbor from 3rd floor , i do not even know , as i walked out to put into car before work to get some paint on it , asked if that was playing on and off last couple days? I replied yes as i was checking to see sub hertz range for 6-7 min. Each time. He replied -wth ! That is one bad*** loud box , it can shake somethings in here and i thought it was someones subs in a car. Lol -note these are very newly built solid and very quite apartments and that was the 3rd floor. My wife won’t even let me play it in the house . But i did noticed the 2” x1” side ports built in sidewalls were not enough and i thought would be too much or plenty for the small pre-boxes sub at base of box , but they were actually not enough i found out later on accident . So i ended up putting a flush port tube at the rear top of box and that increased bass and the bass quality of surround as the speakers were already. I think the reason for this was , that on the sidewalls i decided to close the side ported areas off box with audio mesh for a nice, clean look and it cut down on the air to be able to exit box as much as did before and compresses against self. So the ported tub on top helped not only get that back , but made it even better in all aspects. Never expected that lil sub to need so much air . Given its pre-box size is 12x14x3.75
Nice design!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@juststuff5216
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab I was going to say: 'Put it in your car and see how it performs.' Its a little monster of a thing.
Nice build! I found a cordless brad gun at the pawn shop and I can't understand ever attempting to build a sub or any cabinet without one!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely one of my most used tools!
Good work! Frequency response from 55Hz-60Hz - I think so
I would cover with grill of some sort. and maybe carpet the housing. Beautiful build.
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
TX
@ellisrobinson
13 күн бұрын
I don't think this will be going in a car somehow 🤣
Cool 😎 subwoofer and sound
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@lucilaaldabamaltos3254
4 жыл бұрын
You'are welcome
Good job 🔊 🎶👌
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Tx
Great color
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
nice sound quality
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Nice job
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
tx
Very very nice
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
It's really flat in the responce, smooth and tight.... is there a video on small battery powered amps as I'm thinking of a portable system with a extra amp to power this when there space and time for the exta subwoofer... Intresting for live song making in the woods or on a mountain
Wow exelents sounds of woofer
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
good stuff!!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
Beautiful and detailed video. Thanks
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@googah.qq1
Жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlabhow did you modeled the box. i can model in hornresp but i cannot be sure if im getting the box modeling / calculation part right. i easily desing bandpass abc vented or sealed enclosures but horn based ones such as t line seems so hard
Retro Style Boombox + Transmission Line Subwoofer. Sound demo on both, maybe?
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
The sound demos for these are separate videos. Go check on my channel for the vids.
This sounds amazing
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
tx
Nice build, you should make one that fits in the spare tire compartment.
@leongailberger7676
4 жыл бұрын
shakalg1 not that hard...
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
nice build, just a tip for a box transmission, the port needs 45 degree angles at each turn (use wood), to guide the pressure wave used to prevent pressure bounce back into the t-line.
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I would not go so far as to say that it needs it, but it will surely help the flow of air. There are many highly regarded commercial designs out there that do not always implement this, and they seem to still function as intended. I get what you say though 🙂
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the corner pieces are usually cut to the size to make the bend the same surface area as the line. An ideal corner piece would therefor me concave to keep the perfect surface area. :)
Great Work Bro.Keep it up.Please tell me box and port dimensions.
Excellent 👌
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
Thank you for your knowledge Now my house is a movie theater. Because your speaker formula
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for watching!
That thing hits hard😯
Yeah I want one of these for my car hook me up!
@followthegrow108
4 жыл бұрын
Why? It would have barely any bass. Just get a single ten with a big ported box for deep lows
@followthegrow108
4 жыл бұрын
@@jaanbanaan69 can you explain further, like how does box size and design affect bass
@danwilliams9339
4 жыл бұрын
@@jaanbanaan69 he's great too!!
Hi a suggestion, cover the reflex bass hole with a mesh.
Phase in t-line speakers is a trip. Should I first just make the enclosure and then add volume inside the case to unify the phase?
great! ❤
Nice sound impressive
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Tx
@Davidslabofficial
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab no problems ❤️
it sounds so nice to my years, i use EASARS Headset
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@IamR3D88
3 жыл бұрын
Damn... there is a logo i have not seen in years! I'll still screw up and call amd cards ATI sometimes though
Very cool
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Tx
This looks great! Whats the f3 of this sub and how does the driver generally perform? I'm currently planning a build using this driver so I'd love to hear your thoughts!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The driver does well in this enclosure, and can handle quite a bit of power. It really moves a lot of air. I have not yet measured the F3, but modelled should be in the range of 35Hz or 40Hz. Perhaps I'll do a follow up video in the new year where I can do this and show some more stats.
@soundBlab nice clean looking build. Can you share your hornresp model?
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Good quality speaker but the pice is very hi for this little thing.. nice build
Can you add weight to the passive radiator, because in 5 liter tuned to 30 hz you get flat responce from 30 to 80 hz.
you did not get a maze, as the first spacer inside the case is useless - it does not isolate the space behind the speaker. It was necessary to do the struts obliquely.
@jackmills5071
4 жыл бұрын
In many t-lines the speaker is placed at an interval away from the start. Many are also heavily tapered. It's about resonance and standing waves. Think of a flute, the mouthpiece is places about 1/3 away from the top, but the entire chamber is still used for resonance.
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@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I normally do, however it would have made this video just a tad too long and I ran out of suitable footage.
@Boogerweldz
4 жыл бұрын
Do it, you deserve it👍🏻just do more demo at the end or show a link to partexpress to eat up time?
Please, give me dimensions of these project. Thank You!
Keep it that way , Soundblab. Greetings from Costa Rica and feliz navidad.
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
That looks and sounds great! I love TangBand subs, i have 2 Tang Band W6-1139SIF 6-1/2 subs in my car and they sound good but i know they could sound better with the proper box. I know nothing of subwoofer box design, i just tried different box sizes and different slotted port lengths until i thought it sounded good. It would be nice if someone would design a box that i could make.
@joshualong7517
4 жыл бұрын
PDRIFT86 I just put those same speakers in a box in my truck. Somewhere around .35-.50 cubic feet per driver is sufficient and a 2" port that's 10" long will tune it to about 35 hz. I used a 2" PVC elbow for the opening and 2" pipe connected to it for an additional 6" to get the 10" line. I stuffed it moderately, with about 6oz of polyfill. Sounds 3x better than just having them in my doors.
@lilrich1243
4 жыл бұрын
You can check out WinISD From what I hear it's what most use for box building All you need is the specs of the speaker and the desired frequency, then input it into the program.
How it's sound?,looks similar with Bose accoustimas design
You should offer these so people could buy them, what was the last song called in the demo?
Please give me measurement details for each wood pieces.i need same box ,I have same subwoofer,pls sir
Waw mantap slur
awsome
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
i wish i could build a custom enclosure for my 12 inch but i dont have those kinds of tools
Hi there. I like all of your videos since you explain things in very easy terms to understand, particularly, for a newbie, like myself, and which has led me to start building my system from scratch. One of the things I'm planning to build is a Transmission Line enclosure. Got a question - let's say my target frequency were 35Hz using a driver with a frequency response of 44Hz - 22000Hz. So, 35Hz is below 44Hz. Will my T-Line enclosure be able to hit the target? Or I do I need to set a new target at a point no lower than the one part of the driver's frequency response? Is there any restriction aside from the length of the tunnel and its cross-sectional area? Can it be tuned for any given frequency regardless of the speakers frequency response? Regards and, please, never stop making videos.
@SoundBlab
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It's difficult to say. It all depends on the driver specifications. You can go lower than the FS of the driver, but would not push it beyond 5 or 10 dB. The driver will run out of steam and you will get what we call a shelved response in the lower part of the frequency response. This transmission line calculator will help you to determine the ideal response: www.mh-audio.nl/Calculators/TML.html
@georgem6359
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab Thanks for the info and link. I'll jump to it right away
Awesome build! What's its tuning frequency?
@thomascampbell8064
2 жыл бұрын
70 hz , the line is only 4 feet max , 35hz is 97 inches long , this is nowhere near that long , I build T lines and horn loaded speakers. This build is a joke .
Крутой малыш!!!
What website calculator did you use for t line? How do you compare it to Bose bass? Since they use small subs also, prooving small can be sufficient. Nice craftsmanship!!
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
I used Hornresp. I have not heard any Bose products before so can't comment. Thanks!
Can you do a bandpass design?, I'm a bandpass fan
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
perhaps sometime in the future.
what name of music did you play in the speaker pls share me
Made my Z5500 10" sub go low, must sound decent..!
im curious what the result would be if you took half the depth off from the box and shrunk the port spacing to 1/3 of its current measurement.
@EazyRed
4 жыл бұрын
suffer port noise
I went to buy this
Can you plsss give the measurements
Can you please build a 2 inch t-line sub box?
@KrisWebber
Жыл бұрын
Minimize screen to 50%
Supper. Work. Proo
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
hello please can you put the measurements thanks a greeting
Please make a sub with passive radiator.
blocking air hole with this fiber foam is a mistake. try passive radiator or just free up the air way to make bass more punchy at low end.
@joepme20
4 жыл бұрын
That is not entirely true tho... Transmission line enclosures rely heavily on stuffing to absorb the 'higher' frenquencies. An unstuffed transmission line sounds quite rubbish tbh. Very undefined and unbalanced. I've tinkered quite a lot with these types of enclosures, and this is what I was able to conclude.
I disagree with that stuffing. But you gotta respect any man with more than 3 routers.
for that material you put inside the sub can i use my leftover single socks. rip them up and stuff or is that a bad idea?
@MegaTUHAU
4 жыл бұрын
Ofcoures you can,recycle them..
@MegaTUHAU
4 жыл бұрын
Ofcoures you can,recycle them..
Good
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
tx
This is an awesome little build. I'm familiar with T-line enclosures, but isn't the top chamber in this build redundant? It seems like the sub is installed in the middle of the line.
@juststuff5216
4 жыл бұрын
No - it's not redundant at all, actually, its pretty clever! Bose use a similar approach in their designs. www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/243483-improved-transmission-line-alignment.html And before one dismisses Bose, I've yet to hear anyone worth their weight criticize Bose for their engineering kzread.info/dash/bejne/dY6VtLONY7Xckdo.html .. actually, the engineering is pretty sound. What Bose don't do well is to then take that brilliant engineering and desecrate it using really bad, cheap drivers IMO.
@DIYAudioGuy
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. What is up with that?
@SoundBlab
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting post on the forum! And is exactly what I have done in this design.
@RichMoore-tweakin7376
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundBlab very cool! So that chamber is probably tunable.. hmm. Thanks for the reply. Love your channel 👌😁👍
@salvatorescafiri2203
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I though the same when I first saw the position of the driver!!!!