BUILD vs BUY: DIY Custom Closet System
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Is it better to build or buy a closet organization system?? Let's find out!
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How To Build a Custom Closet Organization System with Adjustable Shelves and Drawers for Storage. I wasn't expecting this to be much of a challenge. I thought the DIY or BUILD version would win this competition hands down, but I was surprised to find that the "BUY" version of the closet is also really high quality and with the price of plywood and other materials these days, relatively affordable. let me know what you think down in the comments!
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Hi, My name is Mike Montgomery and I'm a MAKER; a designer, builder, and full-time content creator. Accessibility is my focus with Modern Builds, not simply accessibility of designs, but accessibility in materials, information, and projects themselves. I've focused on creating furniture and DIY projects that are simple enough that any beginner maker can accomplish, yet interesting enough that any expert might be inspired. Building and making is becoming less and less of an exclusive hobby and profession. My goal is to reduce that separation even further.
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I think you should do a series on RTA (Ready to Assemble) cabinetry. I think it's the perfect straddling between DIY and looking superpro. I feel a lot of people who dig IKEA style assembling should be exposed to the bigger universe of RTA cabinetry.
@justbelit
27 күн бұрын
i would love to see RTA in ikea pax system since most people don't have tools, the skills or workshop.
What do y'all think about the DIY vs. BUY concept?? Seems like a fun way of breaking down whether purchasing or DIY'ing is worth it or not. Plus, having 2 closets in the income property renovation made it useful/convenient! Comment your other DIY vs BUY ideas below :)
@93ahalsey
Ай бұрын
The episode I’ve been waiting for!
@striketochill
Ай бұрын
More Buy vs Build videos please!!
@kimpaynter
Ай бұрын
It’s a great idea ❤ just like you said if you don’t have a lot of wood skills buy is a great idea but if you’re excellent at working with wood, the super pro is great too
@dogface6040
Ай бұрын
According to your numbers, you paid yourself about $50 per hour.
@jodirauth8847
Ай бұрын
The built one is so much better. It is custom and it shows. Custom closets sell houses.
Thank you Squarespace and the Home Depot for keeping this national treasure on KZread. I think I’ve learned more stuff from this guy over the course of my life than from people I actually know
I do a lot of build-in shelves. Once you have the (plywood) verticals attached to the wall, you'll find that the front edges tend to bend a bit. Fix: roughly in the vertical middle of the system, pick a shelf, drill two pocket holes on the front underside, and screw those two shelf corners to the vertical member. That will stabilize the construct.
I vote for build since I usually have a lot more time than money. And practice helps keep improving the looks.
Both options are great. Because I lack carpentry skills, I'd opt for #1. Thanks, Mike! House is GREAT! 👍👏❤😍🥰
Rather than use edge banding (which has a sharp enough edge to occasionally cut you, over the years of use) I prefer to "nose" all the vertical ply and the front of the shelves with 1/4~3/8 x 3/4 "screen trim" (which has already-rounded corners). Glue and tape will attach it to the wood. It's actually faster than edge banding. Works really well with a 23ga pinner (usually can't even see the pins once driven in).
Build - sturdier, more options. And gives more satisfaction afterwards, I think.
Build is the way
I agree the DIY version is sturdier BUT you need to add in the cost of the equipment used. Not many here have table saws and other necessary tools. Plus the time it takes to lay out the plans for the shelving. You used the already defined layout from the bought system. In addition, did you add in the time it took to drive to Home Depot, pick out the right wood products, haul them home and unpack. That's another half day. I love what you did but most here would need to hire someone to do it and that gets even more expensive imo.
Thank you! You’ve given me the confidence to diy my closet.
The answer is different for you, a handy person, than for those of us who don't have the requisite tools or expertise. And don't forget all of the time you'll have to add to the "build" option for sanding and finish (staining, painting, whatever).
Love what you did with the build. I built a custom closet for my house. I used 2 ikea dressers mounted on platforms, black gas pipe for my hanging rods and 3/4 plywood for my top shelf. The length of the closet is around 14' with a depth of almost 6'. The dressers are around 5' wide x 19" deep... on either side. The center ended up being about 46" wide, so I put in a 36" dresser and left a gap of 10" to hang long coats or other items. I planned this closet for nearly 2 years and it turned about 90% of the way I envisioned. You come up with some great ideas so I like seeing your channel
Could always paint the french cleat to match the wall and then it would be hidden even easier.
I would flip those shelf pins around so the wood covers them and uses the leverage to support the weight better.
@tysongaspard9330
Ай бұрын
Agree!
@jtotheb-ip2hh
10 күн бұрын
that's how I did it at my house with those same pins.
they drawers you made are a perfect design Mike!
If I rented or bought a house from you, I'd need an area where I could hang long dresses. I really like watching you do your custom building.
Happy mother's day, Mom💝
Ok - buy option for me - not equipped to do the build but so enjoy watching you do it - everything is looking so great!!! ❤
Great job on both!!!!!
like them both just a matter of what you are more comfortable with. The only thing I would suggest is adding some led lights to help with the darkness.
I have that one from Home Depot and it took me just a few minutes over an hour using a hand saw. Put it up on my own and unfortunately I didn't have a power saw. It looked great though so time well spent.
Excellent as always👌
If you have the tools, build. If not, buy. Like most projects
the built shelf unit is far superior but I could live with the diy one. only because I don't have the tools or patience to build one!
Nice setup with your solo plywood cuts. Not having a full-sized table saw sucks for sure. BTW the groove cut into the drawer sides is a (cleverly named) groove joint, meant for a tongue joint or a thinner piece of ply like you used, while a rabbet is an entire missing corner that another sheet is glued into.
He does say at the end for all you haters the time vs money cost saving, great build Mike!! 🎉🎉
DIY ALL THE WAY!
I like the build of course because I too am a builder which is why I found your KZread channel. However, I am very impressed with the buy option. They look a lot better than I thought they would. Nice job. Im a new subscriber now.
I have to say I like your build better cause it seems better and sturdy great job
This was such a good idea for content. I also hat predrilled holes, go DIY!
I've never seen veneer wraps either. Seems pretty genius. I'm going to try that next time
Fantastic. Opting for the kit option. We don't have a huge shop, tools, skills, or patience
Hi Mom!! The drawers look so good! I need to come hang out and build with you guys! Love watching your projects. You do a great job of providing step-by-step instructions and explaining why you choose to do things the way you do. Honestly, you should have an HGTV program. Super Pro! ;)
Team, build!❣️
Beautiful! Build
Since your channel name is Modern "Builds" and not Modern "Assemble", the build version is obviously the winner! lol I do like the build version better but good job either way! Technically, what you cut for the drawer bottom is a GROOVE, not a rabbet. A rabbet is cut along the edge of a board and is often used to affix a back panel. A slot cut anywhere along the interior of a board is either a groove (runs with the grain), or a dado, which is a slot that runs across the grain.
Build for sure.
I have to stay for the jingle every time
That buy version is not too bad. Both are good. Lot of factors to consider.
Definitly BUILD !!!
Amazing 🇧🇷
Build 💯 % satisfaction
I ordered and installed the same the pre-built. I’m about a 3/5 DIYer. I would spend the extra $400 every single time to save the 8 hours of extra work. I would for sure mess up a cut or two, so I’d also be saving myself a headache and a few bucks in the swear jar 😂
Would love to send you a video of how we do these in Australia give you ideas
Plywood option more versatile but shop version for is for everyone I like video 👌 I have tip for edge banding cutting off try to turn your utility knife top side ot the blade and swipe it along to make that kind of snapping off action it doesn’t dig into the plywood
Awesome!
13:12 Nice paint job...
I realize this video is over a wk old by the time I’m watching it.. but as far as suggestions go.. I think u shld add another level of hanging storage on one side of the “built” organizer… specifically women have long dresses or coats that need long hanging space but the added row of hanging storage on one side wld be great benefit
Great video, mate. Will you do a video putting doors on your closets? (If you are putting doors on).
The comparison between buying and building a custom closet system offers valuable insights for those considering a similar project. Understanding the trade-offs in terms of time, quality, and expertise is essential for making the right decision. 🔧
Build all the way.
Build and definitely a shoe area at the bottom
Mike, they aren't called rabbets, but grooves (if running with the grain) or dados (if across the grain). Great job on the build although you might consider edgebanding those drawer faces to hide the plywood.
I'd be going build, I'd enjoy that alot more.
Tack on the cost of a proper table saw to rip plywood well and its clear the pre-built is the way for the standard person. If you got great tools and a weekend to spare, you'd be crazy not to build it yourself. If i was gonna re-do all 4 closets in my house, pre-builts would be at least $2k. A nice tablesaw and $800 and you get better results with some money saved.
Build over buy, because you can’t really customize to your situation. But both are good options.
I love a good closet organization project! I really like the one you DIY'd, but nothing wrong with using purchased components either. Psst, I think the slot you cut in your drawers for the bottom panel is a dado, not a rabbet. 10:10
10:09 i'm sorry to sound like a smartass but rabbets are grooves that are at the edge, making the edge L shaped.
Maybe you mentioned it but I didn’t hear you. When you were crosscutting with your table saw the rip fence was still on the saw. You had it pushed back but you should remind your viewers using the rip fence and the mitre gage on a through cut could cause kickback.
Awesome video, I also subscribed to
Did I miss where you put a finish on the DIY version? 😊
I liked them both but for me buy is for me😅
The shelf clips are in upside down. Flip the L clips over so the L is right-side up. This way, the shelf sits inside the L and prevents the clip from falling out.
@mandmnickels6653
Ай бұрын
Came here for this comment
@tonybeatle
Ай бұрын
You’d think someone who has been doing this for many years would know how to sue shelf pins. This guy is a joke
@JasonACadder
Ай бұрын
@@tonybeatle he's learning, just like everyone else. Even experts still learn new things every day. Only a fool pretends otherwise.
I don't have the tools to build, so I would have to buy the DYI cabinets.
This is perfect! I'm planning on remodeling our closet next month. Totally taking ideas from here!
I would consider taking into account the difficulty level of each. Probably an inexperienced person will take 20% more time to build the pre fab version, and end with a similar result. But they would take twice or even more to make the custom made version, plus they investment on tools needed [even if rented] and they will most likely end up with a finish product with many imperfections. Also, knowing how to do most of the things you do with the custom one require time to learn and practice, which in turn cost money [of you consider time is money] So I would always recommend the inexperienced user to go for pre fab as it guarantees a better end result and the cost is lower than a custom made one.
Dude definitely pulled out the "oh, I can build that."
I like the built closet but the buy was also nice.
Ikea Aurdal system is similar but a basic config can go as low as $250-300. That said, these options definitely seem like a step up. With a baby and not having enough time to eat let alone build a closet - I'd probably go with the buy option.
i love the build one, although shouldn't there be a finish on the wood and wouldn't that add to the time and cost?
My problem is are those pre finished ply or did you leave it as raw wood? And the money you saved on building you could invest in the basic tools and maybe some nicer ones to be ready for other projects if you want. Great video.
Did you Edge Band the Drawer fronts on the build version? it didn't look like it in the video.
I always think it like: You're paying for the convenience. Buy one = ready to go. Build yourself one, takes longer AND we're not all that experienced to do it ourselves. Besides, you should factor the hourly wage for the 12-16 hours. That would even out the cost. Even with the added cost of hourly wage, the build set wins because you can customize it easily. Different wood panel, more shelves or more coatracks.
Just like a SUPER PRO. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸
Really great video havent seen many like this, sucha goid comparison and totally a good look at what can pols forst diy project
ALWAYS Build.
Pretty sure you’re putting those shelf pegs in upside down, Brother. They sit like an “L” not a “7,” if that makes sense. That way the shelf itself prevents the peg from backing out from the weight of the shelf. Also makes them pretty much invisible once the shelf is in.
@beeker28
Ай бұрын
i thought this as well, thats how i use them. if you use them like the L the shelves arn't flush with the side. so i dont know
Your shell pins are upside down- rotate them 180 and you won’t see them, and the shelf will hold them tight. 😊
my vote is build always. lol
time is money, in my opinion, what you build is amazing and better but to spend $600 is better than spending $200 with 12 hours plus you are a pro, someone like me going to take me more than that what plywood did you use?
Another $20 for edge banding on the build drawer fronts seems to be a no-brainer to me.... I prefer the DIY approach, looks great!
This fucking awesome
I did a custom closet/ self installed from Container store at $500 in2020
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Those drawer fronts just look unfinished without edge banding.
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My man, invest in a neck mic! It would do wonders to your videos.
Mike, instead of a full time outfeed table of your table saw, consider Bow Products XT Xtender fence instead (not an affiliate) table saw fence. I just purchased one and, with the infeed _and_ outfeed supports, it's really slick. Saves a lot space too. Love the closet storage comparison. Build for me, unless time is critical.
$530 for particle board? no thanks thanks for the DIY build through!
With the alterations that you had to make to the first one, you may as well have just made it from scratch.
me when i build a diy closet : 3+ weeks, 1000+ dollars
Was it worth it? Put your closet organization system down and let me work it!
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The quality of the materials themselves is a big deal to me. Like, I hate those compressed wood shelves that sag over time.
Dado.. not rabbit
Build likes better
Can you add the prices for all the tools ? 😂 that will go to some thousands dollars …
Assuming you have the tools and the quality is equal (i never think it is with bought), you re trading time for money.