Build This Tall Tomato Trellis in Just 5 Minutes!
We showed our Florida Weave trellis for determinate tomatoes on our last video, and now it's time to build a trellis for these taller, indeterminate tomatoes. We'll show you a quick and easy setup for trellising taller tomatoes in your backyard garden.
We'll go through every piece of the supply list needed and show you a step by step assembly on this hanging string trellis. After installing the tall tomato trellis, we'll move to another one of our no-till plots and get our peppers planted.
0:00 Intro
0:32 Trellising Short vs. Tall Tomato Plants
1:37 Supply List for a Tall Tomato Trellis
2:52 How to Set T-Posts for a Tall Tomato Trellis
3:51 Step-by-Step Tomato Trellis Installation
6:32 Hilling Indeterminate Tomato Plants
7:33 How Did We Prep Our No-Till Pepper Plot?
8:51 Why Did We Wait So Long to Plant These?
9:10 What Pepper Varieties Are We Growing?
10:02 Why Are We Growing Chocolate Peppers?
10:44 How Far Apart Should You Plant Peppers?
11:09 How Deep Should You Plant Peppers?
11:57 What Else Can We Plant in This Plot?
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Yes! - Ever since Josh Sattin’s video (A Trellis to Make You Jealous) came out (May, 2019), I have been using the T-Post, conduit, and string method for trellising my indeterminate tomatoes. You are correct. It works great. Love it! I also like your improvement with the PVC elbows at each end. Thanks! Best wishes from Kate in Olympia, WA - 4/29/2023.
If, like me, you endlessly battle birds, squirrel, rabbit, groundhog, deer, etc - use this premise as framework (think square as opposed to linear) to throw 3/4” netting over your garden plots. Roll any extra netting over conduit at the base of opposing sides, and affix hooks on the end posts so you can just lift and hang the base conduit/netting to access the garden. Game-changer.
@user-me3qy2nw9x
Ай бұрын
Do u know what type of conduit is used and where I can buy? First time gardener this year. Thanx!
@k8nyonyoutube487
Ай бұрын
@@user-me3qy2nw9x It is not technically conduit (as conduit is steel) but EMT (Electric Metallic Tubing - Aluminum) 3/4"and is available at HD, Lowes. EMT is much lighter in weight.
Gotta love WONKY. Thanks for showing how easy both kinds of tomato trellis are to set up this week.
You are the only one I could find that actually gave sizes for all the piping and connectors! THANK YOU! I'm surprised the Ts are only 1 1/4"... they look bigger but nice to know the size so I get the right ones. Thanks again! :)
I've used these kinds of trellises for years. Easy to set up, take down and store. I don't use PVC elbows on the ends. I use PVC T's with a little bit longer conduit sticking out each end.
@charleselertii6187
Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea. I like it! Thanks. Chuck in Jensen Beach FL.
@cpnotill9264
Жыл бұрын
I do the same Captain!
@hardstylzz5024
Жыл бұрын
I agree T's on the end is better let it overhang, bump that elbow and there goes your tomatoes plants all broken.
@markoliver-ww9ld
Жыл бұрын
Are the tees cheaper than the elbows, they still work?
@kaybegley9566
5 ай бұрын
Don't the conduits slide if there are no elbows and only tees at the end with the conduit hanging?
Very cool. I did something similar in the past but just zip tied the pole on the top of the T-post. I like your setup better. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for demonstrating the tomato trellis again. I’m going to try it this year.
Thanks for being specific on the names of all the parts! I want to do that trellis someday, don't have time this year. And being 72, female and having a bad back isn't helping! I'll be tying my tomato strings to the neighbor's large crepe myrtles behind our back fence (don't tell our neighbor!). lol
Travis, we use the same conduit trellis system, but I add another row of conduit zip-tied near the bottom of the T-posts. That lets me keep the tomato clip string taught since it's tied at both the top and bottom (no chance of pulling out like a landscape staple might have), and also lets me add Hortanova trellis in parts for other climbing plants. Either way that is the best trellis I've seen and we are on our 3rd year with our components. I use 4' bamboo stakes cut in half to 2' length for my peppers. It provides enough support for the plant when attached with a "tape tool" for the life of the plant (just add more tape loops higher up as it grows). I was surprised to find if I pull the bamboo up at the end of the season, it seems to last multiple years. I have some that is starting it's 4th season. If you have not seen a tape tool, they ware a great thing to have in the garden. Easy to use and makes a trellis or stake connection in about 1/2 second.
@charleselertii6187
Жыл бұрын
I like this idea. It is good.
I admire your garden- its so spacious and open to the sunshine. I live in western Washington with tall trees! And deer!!
A fig cocktail sounds good after gardening in the sun! Notorious F.I.G.! Funny but I looked it up.....
Nice. I’ve used T-posts for years now with electric fence wire and twine. I think I like the conduit idea for reuse. Timely video as it’s getting time to think about staking indeterminate tomatoes. Thank you.
Your subs are really growing! So happy to see. I never miss a video, you have taught me so much.
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Great trellis Travis and I use this trellis inside my cat tunnel for peas and works the charm, also for stringing up heaving pepper plants. Great trellis for sure!!!!
Thank you for your time & effort in explaining your system. I have tomato plants in, all the TPosts and EMT & couplings, and will be installing tomorrow. Wish me luck!!
I love this idea!
Nice Travis plants looking good😊
I am down here in Thomasville Ga that’s some great ideas thanks for sharing love your videos I will keep watching them ps Gods blessings for you and your family and gardening 🙏
I did the same technique except I used long pieces of rebar. 10' lenghs about the same price as pvc but much sturdier.
Great idea of doing this 👵🏻👩🌾❣️
Thanks for the video and the idea. We have a slew of indeterminates that are now over 7 feet tall in one of our 4'X8' raised beds. The tomato plants are still growing and blooming and producing after a very hot summer (AZ many 110+ temps) and several weeks of near freezing temps in Jan and early Feb. We have harvested over 150#s of tomatoes in the past 7 weeks. Yep that is 150 pounds. We have a PVC set up (vertical and horizonal) with wire mesh on top to which we strung the plants up to as they grew. Now the plants are over the top of the mesh and pretty much overloading the PVC pipes. I already have some metal t-poles (7') in the ground supporting the vertical PVCs. I will remove/replace the horizontal PVC with metal conduit and yank out the vertical PVC poles and use your setup in a modified version. I'll set up one of our 3 4x8 raised beds with this new set up and wait to see when and if the current plants start dying off before changing out the PVC stuff. Our beds are in our back yard as we live in an urban neighborhood and have limited space.
Nice and simple. I always make things too complicated. Thanks
😂😂 I thought you may have put a bit too much "brute force" into that last t-post and driven it too far in. Glad you told why it was lower. It was messing with me until you explained. 😂😉👍
I will definitely try this next season, I am tired of building cages and storing them. Thanks for the info.
Love your setup. Great educational video!
@LazyDogFarm
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like your plan
I did this PVC stuff, and it kept falling, and it cost quite a bit. Then I just ordered some super heavy duty black zip ties. I criss cross them around the post top making an X. IT worked. I put 8 tomato plants per conduit between two posts. Perfect. These are on 2nd year and holding strong.
@user-me3qy2nw9x
Ай бұрын
So you use zip ties on the end elbows to make sure the conduit doesn’t come out? Am I understanding correctly? Thank you.
I used a trellis system like that last year from my son gold tomatoes. Except instead of using conduit I used high tensile electric fence wire for the top. I also used bailing twine for the plant support with tomato clips, but the problem I ran into was the in the beginning the string would not stay stationary in the ground with the steaks I used. So this year I think I'm actually going to venture out and try planting on top of the string maybe tie a stick around it then plant on top of the string and maybe it will hold a little bit better Don't know what I did wrong last year but that's my plan to give it a try this year! I enjoy all of your great videos content as well as information and learning from you keep up the good work neighbor
Im using this for english peas this year and pole beans
On my third season of using that tomato trellis system. Nix the connectors and just push both ends thru the pvc one less cost and they can come loose with heat and weight
PVC Tees are great! But they are selling around twenty dollars a pc now. I use weave for tomato's and sometimes cucumbers. Great video!
Had some rebra left over use them with all pvc 1 1/4. I place my post so the rebar can overlap through the T's.
We had a landscape nursery (hospital) staging area in our side lot and Hurricane Ian ruined everything. We tore it all out and man it's the best dirt I've seen in SWFL. It's full of good fishing worms and I just planted all my peppers, okra, tomatoes and Seminole Pumpkins in it.
Visit my buddy Mark's site for some awesome pepper-infused vinegars, seafood sauces, and more! bit.ly/3RI0LMN Use code "LAZYDOGFARM" for a 10% discount 0:00 Intro 0:32 Trellising Short vs. Tall Tomato Plants 1:37 Supply List for a Tall Tomato Trellis 2:52 How to Set T-Posts for a Tall Tomato Trellis 3:51 Step-by-Step Tomato Trellis Installation 6:32 Hilling Indeterminate Tomato Plants 7:33 How Did We Prep Our No-Till Pepper Plot? 8:51 Why Did We Wait So Long to Plant These? 9:10 What Pepper Varieties Are We Growing? 10:02 Why Are We Growing Chocolate Peppers? 10:44 How Far Apart Should You Plant Peppers? 11:09 How Deep Should You Plant Peppers? 11:57 What Else Can We Plant in This Plot?
You can also put up a 40% shade cloth if you need it also with the t post
Flowers! Put flowers in that extra space. I'm excited to grow some chamomile and cosmos this summer. Also got some ageratum.
Thanks Travis. If it was me, I would lash the conduit and fittings down to the T posts so it can't lift off in strong winds. Use that same kind of twine that you use for the Florida weave. Cheers, Chuck in Jensen Beach FL.
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
If we get winds strong enough to lift the conduit off the top of those t-posts, we got far worse problems than a tomato trellis being down. lol
Serrano, orange jalapeno, Jamez pueblo peppers, you have to try Antep Aci Dolma peppers a shot, have become an every year pepper for me , Super sweet with a little bit of heat. The best stuffed peppers ever
I hope your gonna be as impressed with the Edox as i have been. Im a bit ahead and they are absolutely knocking the socks off every other cherry tomato im growing. Blown away with the production and overall vigor! Super long trusses loaded down. Real early variety as well!
@CraftEccentricity
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. On my shopping list!
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
Mine aren't doing so hot, but that could be something with the bed where we planted them. I replaced the first two plants and the second ones are going so slow. I fertilized them recently to try to give them a push, but my Toronjinas are looking much better right now.
@JunkyardGardener
Жыл бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm that's a bummer. maybe they'll rebound.ill admit at first mine also were the puny small plants of the bunch but quickly surpassed sweet 100 and sun gold by vigor and productivity.fingers crossed you'll have a better update for us in the coming weeks!
I would drill the ends and put a bolt and nut in and it wouldn't fall by accident.
@sjbinau
3 ай бұрын
Yep that’s what I came here to say. Wing nut makes it even simpler and it will never fall
It’s called “ the trellis to make you jealous “ I saw it on another KZread channel. It’s great if you can afford it.
That's a real pretty trellis and it works good. I do something a little different cause my tomatoes get so much taller than this. I use 10' conduit for my uprights. Some of those cherry tomatoes will get to 10' real quick.
@kaybegley9566
5 ай бұрын
How do you secure the conduit to the ground? Andy how is it working out for you? I'm trying to decide what I want you so forth my trellis this year. Thank you
@One29Homestead
5 ай бұрын
@@kaybegley9566 1/2 inch rebar 24 inches long. The conduit slips right over it.
@kaybegley9566
5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Plastic conduit will bend much more than metal, so well that I make hoops from it. Maybe add more posts with the metal tubing?
Used the tall trellis for years when the garden was much bigger. Now my heirloom indeterminate tomatoes are far apart from each other in heavy cages. The line meathod seemed to spread disease easier in my area. Probably fine for hybrids however.
@h.s.6269
Жыл бұрын
Even with heavy trimming in lower stories of the plant?
@juliemulie1805
Жыл бұрын
@@h.s.6269 obviously, not heavy enough. Used the mulch degradable paper then. Had heavy wind tear them down two years in a row. Grafted my heirlooms for years and those plants were larger and produced very heavily. Disease, bugs and wind damage still happen, but it's more isolated. Don't need that level of production anymore.
Here in Charlotte, we have rock hard clay soil. You're missing the part of how you are driving the t-post into the ground.
@gabeparrish2557
26 күн бұрын
He said to use a T post driver.
As my garden grows, I use mostly raised beds, but some plants I want to direct grow in the ground. I am have huge issues with rabbits. An suggestions on how to keep them away from the vegetable plants. I dont mind them there but not eating my garden
I love Hot Tar honey! YUM!
Has anyone tried to use the conduits as the vertical posts instead of the T posts for uniformity? Im gearing up to build mine but im torn on which to use. I want all conduit to make it more visually appealing but worry it will just slowly bury itself deeper over time losing height under the weight. I've considered making a lil flat wooden "foot" to bury under ground for each vertical pole to prevent that but ive no idea if it'd work. Does anyone have any experience with conduits as vertical posts that can advise me?
How about some eggplants in that extra space? Never really hear you say much about them. But a second planting of summer squash does sound good!
did you tie your string directly to the tomato plant?
@LazyDogFarm
Ай бұрын
No we used a tomato clip.
Great method for tomatoes . Is this 3/4” conduit?
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
It is.
I lost all of my san mazaros to a cold day. Gonna get some plugs.
Hey Travis, so I have Fooled you jalapeños and a couple varieties of sweet peppers. Never knew to stake them. Should I do this as well? I have the vertical string trellises on my tomatoes also
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
We do the Florida Weave on our peppers and it works great. They will need some support once the plants get loaded down with fruits.
What’s the square foootage of your growing lot? Looks great!!
@LazyDogFarm
Ай бұрын
We have six 30'x35' plots.
@user-me3qy2nw9x
Ай бұрын
awesome!!
Corn question- I planted my super sweet corn early March. I’m in zone 8b. It is only about 16-18 tall. Doesn’t seem to be shooting up as quick as it should. I have side dressed it a couple times with nitrogen. Maybe I’m not putting out as much fertilizer as I should. The corn is on drip and stays watered well. Any salvaging this corn? What would you suggest? Thanks! Robin in Bergheim, TX
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
It should definitely be taller than that by now. I planted mine around the same time and ours is between waist and chest high. Just keep feeding it until the leaves are nice and dark green. That's usually the best sign of healthy corn plants.
how do you put the Florida weave together?
Travis I have another question for you. Grafting. Grafting tomatoes. Have you ever grafted tomatoes? Grafting is touted to add vigor to your plant, expanded vegetative growth, uptick in production and it is supposed to give better resistance to disease Is it difficult to graft tomatoes? Does the benefit outweigh the added labor? What root stock or stocks can one use? .
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
I've never done any grafting, but I hear it works well. A lot of the greenhouse tomato growers do it, but not sure what root stock they use. I think Johnny's Seeds actually has some info on their site about it though.
@joeyl.rowland4153
Жыл бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm I am going to do some research. I will let you know what I find out.
I still prefer cattle panels. Just place them higher off the ground to the top of your t post.
Travis, can you take cuttings from determinate tomatoes and transplant like suckers on an indeterminate tomato?
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
Not sure. I've never tried.
@Jeremystitan
Жыл бұрын
@Lazy Dog Farm this will be my first year growing determinate tomatoes, will they produce tomatoes on the branches of the plant or just along the main stem?
Do I need a connector if I am only using one piece of conduit? Do I need anything to secure the elbow and conduit?
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
If you're just using one piece, I'd just get an elbow for each end to sit on top of the posts and hold things in place. No tees or conduit connectors necessary in that case.
@renagrossman3202
Жыл бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm Thank you! What do you think about bamboo in the place of the conduit? I have bamboo and would rather not go out and buy something new.
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
@@renagrossman3202 Bamboo could work as long as it was 3/4" thick or so.
@renagrossman3202
Жыл бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm Thank you!
How are you securing and tightening tomato twine from the conduit trellis above to the ground/plant? I can’t find that step anywhere. What is on the bottom to attach twine to?
@LazyDogFarm
5 ай бұрын
Just a little piece of bamboo in the ground beside each plant. We tie the string to that.
@epristerv
5 ай бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm Thank you! I had seen others do that in videos but couldn’t imagine that it would hold with the weight of a heavy plant. I plan to try to build one of these this year.
Travis are you using p 1 “ pvc conduit, 1 “ ent conduit or 1” ridgit conduit for the top pieces
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
It's not PVC. Pretty sure it's EMT conduit.
@davealexander7515
Жыл бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm thank you
Looks good, but my tomatoes grow to about 10 to 15 feet every year
@user-me3qy2nw9x
Ай бұрын
That’s awesome
What size conduit? Your connectors said 3/4" but not sure if that is actual inside diameter of connector or the pipe to use it on?
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
I believe it's 3/4" conduit. The PVC pieces we use are 1 3/4".
@mikeharmon4901
Жыл бұрын
@@LazyDogFarm Ouch! I found t-post 10' long for $16 and 1/2"pipe FOR $6.5. My soil is light and sandy so an 8' is advised to beat down 2' to use. The 3/4" pipe would cost a little more but like you stated they will last many years. I have t posts 20 years old and doing fine except for the plate on some have broken. I need about 150' of row and cost would be about $500 ........... I might be able to use my shorter ones with an 8' 2x4 u-bolted to them with a hole drilled at the top. Using screws it would be able to be moved but no where as nice and fast as your system for sure
Suggestion…couple all three pieces of conduit together on the ground …then slide the T-post PVC onto the coupled conduit ...then just lift it up onto the T posts.. So your not having to try to couple the conduit together reaching up and screwing the couplers while holding the conduit.
Do you prune the suckers with your trellis?
@LazyDogFarm
10 ай бұрын
Yes.
What do you use to trellis peppers?
@LazyDogFarm
3 ай бұрын
We use the Florida Weave -- same thing we use for determinate tomatoes.
What happened to the overwintered habaneros
@LazyDogFarm
Жыл бұрын
That nasty cold weather we got before Christmas killed them. I had them double covered with frost protection fabric, but it didn't matter.
What size conduit in diameter?
@LazyDogFarm
3 ай бұрын
I think it's 1/2" or 3/4". Either should work.
Wasn’t this the Hoss Tool channel before? 🤔
@LazyDogFarm
3 ай бұрын
No, but I did used to do videos for them. They still have their channel.
Metal or PVC conduit?
@LazyDogFarm
4 ай бұрын
I use metal because it's stronger.
???? Hello.. How deep do I put the 7' ft tpost?
@LazyDogFarm
2 ай бұрын
Just drive it deep enough so that the "t" on the t-post is in the ground.
Hey Trav, look up any chemtrails Dawg?
I've seen several different videos of this same method & I did this last summer. I will not use conduit again! Some of my tomato plants were too heavy for the conduit. They bent terribly & one actually came crashing to the ground with 3 plants on it. A lot of others were bent & borderline ready to go down. Next yr. I'm going to use strong, stiff PVC pipe (maybe schedule 80.) Not sure why this is shown with conduit when even though it's metal, it's not strong enough to support heavy tomato plants.
@LazyDogFarm
7 ай бұрын
I haven't had any issues with the conduit. I do get a little bending, but I just turn it the other way the next time and it straightens. I did have one side come down during a hurricane this past year, but it was loaded with cucumbers and the winds were crazy.
This guy likes to grow fire.
My tomatoes get 8 to 9 feet tall mine will break pvc in a setup like that
That trellis is not tall enough for indeterminate tomatoes. They will grow to the top and then fall over and grow downward.
@LazyDogFarm
25 күн бұрын
Down here they won't. Our tomato season is usually done by mid to late July.
Build this in 5 min. But the video last almost 13min something wrong here
@josieg.6268
2 ай бұрын
😂😂 come on use some common sense. He's talking through the process and that takes time. This method is fast.
WHY THE HELL DOES IT TAKE A 12 MIN. VIDEO TO SHOW HOW TO BUILD A TRELIS IN 5 MIN.?
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