PFF had Worthy ranked lower than Coleman, so the Bills got a 3rd round pick + the higher rates WR according to your own metrics.

@123shoshan

Ай бұрын

Pff had ad Mitchell much higher than Coleman

@danflad6077

Ай бұрын

They didn’t interview the kid like all the NFL teams did

@corey2232

Ай бұрын

@@danflad6077 Who didn't interview him, PFF? If anything, that speaks to his talent & potential even more. They ranked him higher than Worthy based purely on game tape & measurables, then his team interview endeared him even more to the Bills. So they already thought he was good enough as a player, then were sold on him as a person

@sal4856

Ай бұрын

Bills done with Divas Coleman good kid with personality

@IntroducingMrLucci

Ай бұрын

Didn't really get a 3rd Rd pick. They swapped from a high 4th Rd pick for the bottom of the 3rd Rd comp pick which is in reality an early 4th

I think what you need to remember with the bills moves in the first round is, they werent going to pick worthy anyway, and neither really were the other teams between them and KC. Along with that, it was clear at least to me that kc wanted him from the start and most other teams were not as interested in him. Following that, you guys had worthy projected 4 spots lower than Coleman

The big thing that everyone forgets is that Kincaid is gonna be the main target. At least next year. Kid can separate, is an amazing route runner, and is a big target for Josh. Coleman will get a healthy share, but its a new offense where there is a lot more shared targets than like 60-70% going straight to Diggs. This is a SLEEPER offense.

The Bills baited KC to take Worthy, knowing all along they wanted Coleman in the first place. Yes, Worthy is fast but he's 165 lb wet. I would rather have a 6'4 receiver that's 215 lb that's a freak. They got 2 extra draft picks plus saved 4 million in the salary and still got the player they wanted. Bills schooled KC big-time.

@shinobi9922

Ай бұрын

He's not 6'4" or 215 and not a freak either.

@shinobi9922

Ай бұрын

And Beane said they were on the phones trying to move up in the 20ish range. They weren't trying to move up for Coleman. He wasn't their target. The real guys they wanted were all gone once they couldn't work out a trade so when it came to our pick they traded out. Coleman was never the plan all along.

Coleman, Shorter, Samuel, Shakur, Kincaid.. 👌💪

@JesusFabianLunaMartinez-sl1db

Ай бұрын

Knox

@123shoshan

Ай бұрын

Coleman is slower than your grandma

@JesusFabianLunaMartinez-sl1db

Ай бұрын

@@123shoshan this isn't about who is the fastest, this is catch the ball and don't let it fall

@leviwhitted8532

Ай бұрын

@123shoshan Coleman's 40 is identical to some of the best receivers in the league. He was also the fastest receiver at the combine running routes. ✌️

@123shoshan

Ай бұрын

@@leviwhitted8532 Coleman’s 40 is identical to thousands of recievers that were busts stop

If Worthy stinks and Coleman is an All-pro, are people going to say the Chiefs gagged by not taking Coleman after trading up? Probably not, but they should considering what they will say about the bills if Worthy is an All-pro.

Not many teams playing man against the Bills. Lots of cover 2. YAC and possession underneath are the key. Coleman fits.

@maybecole

Ай бұрын

Shakir, Samuel and Kincaid are gonna eat. Teams know they gotta cover Coleman.

@mikec2436

Ай бұрын

Bills are trying to get passed KC. KC plays a lot of man.

@BucsDucs99

Ай бұрын

The Bills faced man more than almost any NFL team last season (maybe the most, but I think it was #2 or #3 if memory serves correctly).

Please stop talking about Buffalo when you know nothing about them other then headlines.

Bills gained a 3rd rounder by wheeling and dealing

@lesliechow7286

Ай бұрын

Actually saved at least several million$ in cap and got a guy they would have taken or similar in the first round.

Do people forget that Dawson Knox is tied with Jerry Rice for most post season TD catches. Stop sleeping on that man. He is a weapon.

@Focus716

Ай бұрын

No he isn’t?

@therealbeedubbs35

Ай бұрын

What?!!?

@leengly3127

Ай бұрын

I’m a Bills fan, he’s a touchdown machine because Allen target him on broken play. He can’t separate from his men to save his life.😂

@Tactify24

Ай бұрын

I'm a bills fan, and I'd love what Crack you are smoking

@5ch3nk

Ай бұрын

I hope he rebounds, but last season was a disaster for Knox.

Saw a video explaining the trade back and how it benefits the Bills cap situation. I feel better about the draft now.

PFF is comedic gold, Yall grade based on stats only, not what happened within a play, or circumstances of that play, PFF having opinions on draft prospects are hilarious, Which one of these guys has the experience scouting prospects??

@hollytrinity8012

Ай бұрын

WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS?? WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!!

We saved a very important 3 million by going into 2nd round. Coleman was always the pick. Great draft,imo.

Coleman will be a fantastic X. Greatly underestimated player.

Go bills!

The reason Keon wasn't getting separation is because the QB was trying to throw to the other team.

@maybecole

Ай бұрын

Coleman literally had to be superman to catch some of those throws.

Samuel is much better than most people know and will show it. My question for these guys is , why can’t Colman be a Michael Irvin type ? Why can’t people see this in him ? We will be fine at Wide receiver .

The thing about Clayton, is that he has a similar issue to Mailata. They don't have a college system building their athletes, teams run their own junior grades but Mailata never actually made it into a professional League. He was told that sure, he looks impressive but at that size he wouldn't work in Rugby. He was told as much, that he may as well take the opportunity with the NFL because a Rugby team couldn't use him. They are VERY different sports. You have to be able to have the Cardio and agility to go non-stop for 80min, both sides of the ball, offense and defence. You simply don't see that many BIG guys in Rugby. Chances are with Clayton that he had a very similar message, or perhaps he's not great with his ball skills. It could be that he never comitted to one sport (I know he has Boxing and Soccer on his resume too) or any number of reasons so yeah, he might not be a Rugby player of the grade of say Zammit that the Chiefs picked up, but neither is Mailata, and Mailata was nowhere near the Rugby player that Christian Wade, Valentine Holmes or Jarryd Hayne were when they were meant to light up the league. Rugby, either version (Mailata/Hayne/Holmes played Rugby League, Wade/Zammit/Clayton played Rugby Union) have similar transferable skills, but they're not the same sport. A player who's good at Football would not make a good Rugby player, so a persons skill at Rugby has little bearing on their Football ability. All we know is he's an athletic freak and he knows how to take/and deliver a hit.

If Coleman was their guy then it was a fantastic trade. They got a third rounder and whatever they got from Carolina and saved millions of dollars in cap for drafting him in the second round.

@shinobi9922

Ай бұрын

And Beane said they were on the phones trying to move up in the 20ish range. They weren't trying to move up for Coleman. He wasn't their target. The real guys they wanted were all gone once they couldn't work out a trade so when it came to our pick they traded out. Coleman was never the plan all along.

People don't play alot of man vs the Bills. Like they said lots of YAC plus Josh will gouge with his legs

@therealbeedubbs35

Ай бұрын

There’s zero YAC in the Bills offense besides Cook now. Maybe that changes with Brady. But that’s y they got this kid. Jump ball specialist

@shemumble4127

Ай бұрын

​@@therealbeedubbs35Khalil shakir and Curtis Samuel are good in YAC.

@user-ld1pm9bt6l

Ай бұрын

​@@therealbeedubbs35you are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

Beane fleeced KC’s 3rd for a player they were gonna get anyway… Beane is a boss!

@travistarr9433

Ай бұрын

It was a pick swap. Bills didn't outright get a 3rd

@lesliechow7286

Ай бұрын

@@travistarr9433they then went into the 2nd and won’t have to pay Coleman as much on the rookie pay scale. This looks like a $$ saving deal by Beane to get a guy they would have took anyway.

@butchdavis2062

Ай бұрын

Beane have up assets for that trade back to KC and they used it to draft the consensus #2 safety in the class

@maybecole

Ай бұрын

@@travistarr9433 They didn't have a third to begin with this year, so yes they did technically get a third for some 4th swaps.

These yucks was out on Josh Allen and countless others

Hey Stevie they got a third round pick and swapped a 5th this year for a fourth next year. I thought you were all in on the draft, guess not. But before you open your pie hole you should check the actual facts. Plus have you talked with Brady on how he plans to use his receivers, Buffalo was one of the top running teams last year after Brady took over Coleman is probably the best blocker out of the WR draft choices, any he like the contact. As for separating he's 6'3" and plays the position like a power forward, he really doesn't need the separation skills when he can body out the CB, after that he's hard to bring down. But please continue talking your nonsense. As for the safety, funny Greg Cosell has a way different take on him he loves the pick and sorry but Sean McDermott forgot more about the safety position than you two goofballs will ever know. I trust him because I'm pretty sure he had a hand in the selection and the fact they were willing to move up to get him say's it all for me.

Let's see teams keep playing 2 high when the bills are constantly in 11 and 12 with either knox or Kincade or both on the field along with keon coleman. Bills are going to have a diverse attack that can kill you multiple ways. The 10 personal is gonna be almost gone so the receiver room isn't gonna have the same makeup it used to. 11 with Kincade is basically a big 10 package with James Cook on the field you can easily go empty as well. Lots of scary options. Personally still hope the bring in a vet I want dj chark there's other decent options as well.

Yes they talk smack of Solomons height but he has the arm length of someone 6 ft 4

Coleman is not being brought in to replace Diggs, they have that somewhat in Samuel and Shakir. He's meant to be a better Davis.

Love the Stade Français shirt. Keep it like this 😘

I am excited about Davis, granger, and the leading sacker in the FBS solomon

Their breakdown of the picks didn’t seem to coincide at all with a B- grade. Was that their grade or someone else’s?

Brandon Beane's track record with offensive players in rounds 1-3 is pretty good. James Cook, Dawson Knox, O'Cyrus Torrence, Dalton Kincaid, Spencer Brown, and of course, Josh Allen. The only ho-hum picks were 2 x RBs, Devin Singletary & Zack Moss. I'd say Coleman is likely to be a very good player for them, even if he's not a Diggs style WR1

@BigBabaBooey

Ай бұрын

Don’t forget generational bust Cody Ford.

@corey2232

Ай бұрын

@@BigBabaBooey I wish I could forget... that's why his track record is only pretty good 😅

@duncanonme8744

Ай бұрын

Singletary's a damn good back.

If the Bills really believe in Coleman, why on earth would you trade out of the 1st & lose the 5th yr option?

@mattsaxton1074

Ай бұрын

Fifth year option rules changed in 2020 and are far less favorable for teams to engage in. It's far less valuable than it once was, because it makes your fourth and fifth year contracts 100% guaranteed, which is a big deal in how it affects the teams overall salary in relation to the cap.

@mattc1176

Ай бұрын

@@mattsaxton1074 I get it that it’s less favourable. But the original point stands. If you were the Lions this year, would you rather pay 4yrs $120m extension to Amon-Ra St Brown or pick up a 5th yr option for $13m and do the contract next year? The latter option is just blatantly better.

@mattsaxton1074

Ай бұрын

@@mattc1176 it wouldn't have been $13m. "With two or more Pro Bowl selections on the original ballot during the first three seasons of contracts, the fifth-year salary is the franchise tender, which is an average of the five highest salaries, for a player's position in the fourth year of his contract." It would've been somewhere around $27 million guaranteed, so 4 years $120m with incentives was the better deal for the team. The 5th year option is very selective now and is primarily for QB's or players that relatively have underperformed but the team still believes in (like Groot, where he doesn't get a ton of stats but plays well and fits with the team well).

Biggest thing is storyline and if worthy beats us or even scores in a playoff game against the chiefs, the pundits will point right back to that trade!!!!

I love this time of the year everybody’s got an opinion , don’t get me wrong i love all the opinions its like crack for a football junkie like me lol but these guys are like Coleman CAUTION!!! And others are like he can one of the top WRs in this class. It’s all guessing. All i know is Coleman catches pretty much everything and he was the fastest in the gauntlet and Worthy has more drops than you would want out of your 1st round WR. I will stick with Coleman please and thank you.

"Colman new Kick off weapon"--- the Time Traveler Gemini♊

Bills was a b+ draft .. an then 1 move took em to a "A+" draft an that was bills traded a 5 for a 4 like that is a genius no think trade I guess we see next year but I 100 believe jumping a whole round is a steal dont know or care or they picked unless it turns out 2 b a tom Brady i think that was a come up!

He chiefs trade got us a 3rd rounder

@MUTV2

Ай бұрын

but they gave chiefs a 4th so it only ended up being moving up a little bit not gaining an extra pick

Clearly the bills liked coleman the most

Bills offense is joe bradys offense now which broke college fooball records, with big bodies WRs, get a clue

Diggs was 6th round and Keon being called “risky” worthy is risky speed don’t always translate didn’t they sign the fastest guy before him too? Feeling a lil bills bias from bald boy

Do you think the bald dude realizes that Coleman is 20 years old and his ability to progress isn't over? 😂. Welp, thats it guys. He couldn't separate when he's 19, bad pick lol. Gotta love that people get paid to do this.

@sprawlz6466

Ай бұрын

Lmao. But to be fair, Buffalo probably should’ve gone for a guy with a higher floor in round 2 instead of a project receiver considering there’s gonna be a battle for #2 option behind Kincaid. Maybe should’ve taken the project guy in round 5?

this sounds like when the bills traded up for josh allen. these guys have no clue

I do not give a flying F if KC got Worthy…they were going to get him, Legget, Mitchell, or Coleman….

Who cares about the chiefs, bills offense gonna be different this kid is gonna kill in crossing patterns,good luck tackling him

GoBills🦬

Top 5😂😂😂😂

U people out here soooo negative on him

You guys do this so often with players... It wasn't too long ago you both dragged the Bills for the Josh Allen picked., and I can name and endless list of other players you've done this too.. And look what happened with Allen. Your takes couldn't have been worse when it comes to Allen. Let's be honest, Keon Coleman has a MUCH higher ceiling than Xavier Worthy who is a 160lbs 1 trick pony. Every single year in the draft the Bills get players not highly touted coming into the draft and turn them into freaks. Look at Matt Milano, Terrel Bernard, Taron Johnson, Dawson Knox, Khalil Shakira. Give Coleman a chance. Brandon Beane knows exactly what he's doing

No they got a third u left that purposely

These guys don’t know shit about how the Bills are built. How anyone takes them seriously is beyond me.

Making a really decent living as a grown man talking about these players and purposely mispronouncing their names is so disrespectful and unprofessional. 15 year old cretin behavior. I'd be so embarrassed.

Friendly reminder, these two have never been in the league as a coach, scout, general manager etc.

Keon Coleman is a fringe practice squad player

@datboyk3261

Ай бұрын

Bro what are you smoking?

@nixhydra

Ай бұрын

🤡

@BlackOdin27

Ай бұрын

Soooo your obviously a cane or gator fan 🤔

@retrocny5625

Ай бұрын

Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me lol.

@DEVILDOG1964

Ай бұрын

YOU MAKE ME LAUGH NOPE PUKE!!

Bald dude is horrible! He’s very incompetent!!! How does he have a job here!!! Smh

Bills had the worst draft

@daylonpeterson7192

Ай бұрын

cap

@webdubois4142

Ай бұрын

@@daylonpeterson7192 Time will tell

@retrocny5625

Ай бұрын

Bills had a solid draft. Drafted every single position of need. Got a lot of top 100 players. Easy B+. As Beane has said several times now. It's not September yet. It's not even June. The roster isn't set lol. Keon Coleman was an excellent addition who had been mocked as a first round talent for months and months, at one point seen as a top 4 receiver in the class ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. His 40 time scared away people but focusing on 40 time is a classic trap that so many idiots fall into. Jerry Rice ran 4.7. Tee Higgins nearly 4.6. Puka Nacua ran a high 4.5. Larry Fitz ran 4.6. There's so many examples of incredible receivers running slow 40 times but playing much faster in pads. Because 40 time has never been an indicator of whether a receiver is going to succeed at the next level or not. Literally never. Keon is 20 years old, hasn't even turned 21 yet. He WILL get better at separating. FSU didn't use him with much versatility at all, only had him running a handful of routes and he was more of a versatile route runner at Michigan State. He has GREAT short area quickness, great at moving laterally and some of the best body control and hands in this WR class, he dropped a total of 4 passes in his entire college career, and the Bills want a guy who is gonna come down with the ball above all else lol. Fastest MPH recorded in the gauntlet drill, one of the cleanest runs by any receiver in that drill in terms of trusting his hands and staying on-line. He's got a great attitude, he's got that confidence you want in a potential WR1, and he's gotta be given a chance to show what he can do. They don't call this overreaction Monday for nothing.

@DEVILDOG1964

Ай бұрын

UR NUTS!

@pali3876

Ай бұрын

Far too soon to say