Its not about drinking alcohol literal, it's drinking their artistry

The getting drunk isn't literal. They are talking about being drunk in their art. In Korean, drink and art has the same sound.

@caitlyntjong1496

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite, art is 예술 (yesool) and alcohol is 술 (sool), but similar, yes!

I don't think you understand the implications of using a word like "militaristic" when talking about a BTS show. The idea of Asians being rigid, exacting, almost robotic ie militaristic is harmful. I see no less staging, showmanship or perfection in Beyonce or Michael Jackson shows yet no one would ever say militaristic about their styling and performances and Michael was known to be terribly particular. I think if you're going to discuss POC, Asians you are going to have to understand your own unconscious stereotypes (which most of us have) and evaluate them before saying things that can be hurtful and harmful.

@amiii5292

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out. I find it weird that western artists are praised for their professionalism and perfectionism, while asian artist are often called manufactured, robotic or militaristic just for putting a similar amount of perfectionism in the show.

@slc4226

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying so well something important that needs to be pointed out.

@jimimphile

2 жыл бұрын

tysm for this, it was needed

@TheAngelOnMyShoulder

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Also the talk about the lack of emotions, it fits with what you've said. I've watched a few of his reaction, I appreciate what he has to say. But some things the chat said dosent feel right.

@jamais_vu3

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for saying this.

Theyre not singing abt just alcohol, theyre singing abt art being their alcohol. Get drunk in art, their thyrsus is a mic, going crazy abt creating art

Their performance of this at the 2019 mmas is even better. It’s insane

@debhouckscraftycottage9288

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! That award show performance was epic. This was great too though.

@portofolita

2 жыл бұрын

Totally, hope he react to the whole thing too

@taeyongscheeks

2 жыл бұрын

The song alone without the Extra dance break with the N.O remix not really that much the MMA's were more impressive because there was like almost a 10 min intro and then the dancebreak but the Look of it like style wise much better at MMA's

Yes, this is the opening of the show! they have other more toned down performances the rest of the show tho hahaha. They would pass out half way through if they did this the entire show. especially, coming towards the end of the 3 hour show, they just come out in jeans/sweatshirts/tshirts and casual attire. Emotions are still shown throughout the show in various ways :)

perfectionism being called "militaristic" doesn't sit well with me

I love how you can appreciate their skill as performers and the talent they have on stage but thank you also for pointing out that lyrically this song is more than just a party anthem. Here they are expressing the passion for the artistry of making music and how that in itself is like getting drunk. BTS's music isn't always 1 sided, they often have music that covers different tones it only matters how deep with them someone is willing to go. And I think BTS get a lot of criticism by small minded people who only want to see them as a surface pretty boy group. BTS are the real deal and deserves more recognition for the artists they are.

@jerseygirl6221

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good point about people being small minded and wanting them to be surface level like most kpop groups because that’s what the listeners are used to if you think about it. I actually saw somebody on Twitter say “I like my kpop really dumb and basic, I don’t want to have to think.” like huh?! So weird🤦🏾‍♀️

@kunikuzushis

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerseygirl6221 I think in the same vein , nothing is wrong with liking fun, “dumb” or “basic” music because it’s something of its own and can help you appreciate when people do make music with deep, meaningful messages; not that it necessarily makes it better/worse.

In Greek mythology, Dionysus is (amongst other things), the god of the grape-harvest & winemaking; ritual madness, religious ecstasy, festivity, and theatre. A Thyrsus is the staff that Dionysus carries (which RM carries starting off the song). In this song Dionysus and getting drunk etc are metaphorical to BTS and their creation process.

I think you missed the whole deeper meaning of Dionysus, the twice-born God of artistic genius.

This is not them singing about getting drunk with alcohol...they are talking about drinking their artistry in this song...The song celebrates shrugging off artist and media criticism about trivial things over a heavy beat and rap verses.....this song is so more deep meaning to it.

The year was 2019. They are singing about getting drunk on ART or ARTISTS. Their emotions are real I believe because of their heart and souls poured into creating and performing their own music with their own stories.

I think that their detailed oriented and perfected shows convey their passion for their work. The way in which they strive to show the best version of themselves by putting thought into their dance, stage concept, singing and crowd interaction is just so telling of their love for performing and music. It's really rare to see people put so much effort in. I mean, they don't even have to do this anymore since they've been doing this for the past ten yrs. With their level of popularity, people would pay to watch them sing and sit in a chair.

Ballet and performance dance is also "militaristic", yet it's considered art. So why do ppl tend to use this term for kpop? I need an explanation from the one that made that comment on the livestream.

Its about art, not drinking

Just so you know, in Korean alcoholic drink (sool) and art (yesool) share the same syllable. Therefore the mention of drinking and being drunk in art makes sense.

This song is deeper than you think. In Korean, the words for alcohol and art sound very similar to reach other. Dionysus is the god of wine, ecstasy, and the arts. BTS is saying that they get drunk on the ecstasy of artistic creation. They also get drunk on alcohol of course - watch "Drunk BTS is the best BTS" for the laughs. And a "thyrsus" is the staff of Dionysus, like RM was holding in his hand at the beginning of the song.

You are absolutely right about different types of performances! As in dance: we appreciate amazingly painstakingly rehearsed ballet or contemporary piece as much as we can appreciate the freestyle battle or improvised tap dance

Dionysus is an insane performance. Only super skilled performers can dance and sing at the same time with intensity

Its seems there was some discussion over the validity or honesty of their emotions in the chat and all i have to say is i dont see how u could come to an assumption like that (that they are “emotionless”) free of racial biases and stereotypes but thats just my view on the situation.

@AA-fn5yu

2 жыл бұрын

True

I have never seen this performance after a year of being an army?

I feel like some of those compliments were backhanded lol.

Dionysus isn't about drinking alcohol,BTS are singing about getting drunk on their art.You need to dig a little deeper.

Actually, it's sort of a shame you missed the the fact that this song is so much more then 'getting drunk' if you knew BTS better their songs always have way deeper meaning. it's called a play on words or double or even more meaning since in Korean words can have different meanings, or with a bit different pronounciation, the word for alcohol is similar to for art. So it's actually meaning getting drunk on art or creating,. Aside from that, also, Dionysus, was so much more then the harvester of grapes vegetation, & creator of wine! Haha!! Because Dionysus was the only Olympian with a mortal mother, because he was raised on the mythical Mount Nysa (which was believed to be either far to the south or the east), and because he wandered Asia before arriving in Greece, Dionysus was seen as an outsider. This was an inherent part of his cult, which often focused on the more subversive elements of his nature. Dionysus was often called Eleutherios, meaning “the liberator,” because his wine, music, and ecstatic dance freed his followers from self-consciousness and the restraints of society. Indeed, as the “twice-born” god, Dionysus had crossed the boundary between life and death, and he was often portrayed as the god who crossed the boundary between the civilized and uncivilized and the known and unknown. He was represented as a god of chaos and the protector of misfits.

As many have pointed out, Dionysus is not just the god of wine. Among his other things he oversees, it specifically strikes me that under an alternate name, Eleutherios, his followers dance free and subvert the oppression of the powerful. Even if not intentional, that is so very BTS. (Description partly taken from wiki as they described it better than my rambly words) I

10 points please - Thyrsus is the staff carried by Dionysus. 😉👍

I always read the comments b4 watching. In conclusion, you need lyrics and explanation videos for Kpop especially BTS songs. Period. Don't just focus on melody, but thanks for that lol.

I love their versatility, flexibility and adaptability...while I love their more structured performances such as this one my favorites are when they just cut loose and let them themselves go. That's when you really see how much they love what they are doing, how much they feel and relate to the music, how much they love and respect each other and just how deep their love and gratitude for Army goes. They are one of a kind!

There’s a clip of youngish getting super excited because of the leopards at the beginning and I can’t see them now without having the clip of him going “the concert leopards are here” with his big gummy smile, play in my head lol

Their training was brutal. Sometimes dancing in gas masks or running in place for 5 minutes before starting to sing. They even had to match eye movements while performing. Everything was filmed and critically reviewed during rehearsals. It was beyond even the 'normal' Kpop rigorous training. Don't think any American group would even think to attempt this kind of bootcamp training. It would even be considered abuse of minors in Am. culture but the results are undeniable. Their breath control and stamina are amazing.

@mplahke

11 ай бұрын

Think about the training for ballet dancers--very similar in that they aim to catch them young and engrain perfect technique into muscle memory. When Jin went swimming with friends he could hold his breath for twice as long as they could.

Dionysus is also the god of the arts and they are saying about getting drunk on their music.

it's not about drinking. it's about getting drunk in your art.

@jackcomeback1758

2 жыл бұрын

Its about Dionysus god,he is drinking wine god

@sarahe6659

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackcomeback1758 the lyrics are talking about getting drunk on the artist and their art.

@tatiana7225

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackcomeback1758 and he was also considered a patron of the arts. This whole song is a metaphor.

I highly recommend you to watch the Disonissos stage. MMA 2019 BTS Intro: Persona + Boy In Luv + Boy With Luv + Mikrokosmos + Dionysus If you see Dynamite Dance Break on the 2020 MMA stage, I think you will really like it. Be sure to watch the 2018 MMA BTS performance stage as well. 2016~2020 All MAMA stages are also legends.

MMA 2019 Awards shoe is a 37 minute marvel. They end with this song and it is awe inspiring. It is worth watching on your own even if you don't post. Enjoy.

I love it how people seem to think they lipsync😂

When i say "I stan Legends", i mean it!😌

At the 2019 MMA performance, Dionysus is much more elaborate performed at the end of an epic 37 minute performance at what is an awards show (that they swept, by the way). Thoughout this 37 minutes they perform as a group and singly, showing their impressive individual talents. Watch this, and I hope you can also present it as a reaction. The performance is beyond complex. It is among the best that I have ever seen from any solo or group of artists, and I love all genres, including opera. These boys are operatic in their art, in concept and staging.

The song is basically if art was wine, BTS is Dionysus (the god of wine and parties). Come get drunk on their wine/art/music. In Korean it’s actually a clever and catchy play on words because the Korean words for art and alcohol rhyme. I love your BTS reactions! I hope you do more. I’m actually rewatching all of them for a second time right now

there are sooo many levels to each indiviudal bts song its insane.... like they compare Artist vs Idol subtly or directly in different songs but they also look back on thier journey and how they got to where they are now as artists and because of thier fan base too... they appreciate eachother and those who helped them get to where they are now... but they still take the time to incorporate deep deep meanings in thier songs which i think is so cool even because I'm a long time Army at this point and I'm still learning different meanings to each song when I watch reaction videos of others on KZread first discovering this group...

Basically you need to see a concert . You can see the all the different types of performance in a BTS show- dramatised performances but also just partying with the crowd, intimate solo stages etc. They live for a concert and you can feel that as an audience. They are truly present and have a lot of fun and their quirky characters shine brightly when they run around on stage and do shenanigans. The opening number here has to sit like a T obv but the storyline throughout the concert is amazingly crafted. 👍 Hope to see more

oh this is the remaded performance you can tell at 6:01 originally they fell into a pushup not onto their knees but i think they kept getting hurt so changed it

The ending segment of their concerts is usually quite free style in casual clothing.

For me it’s the precision that is appealing. Of course there’s the scale and intensity. We are basically witnessing something speculator. Of course with BTS there’s also the depth of meanings in their art.

Love your reaction 💜💜💜

Dionysus live always being hype up... The choreo it's hard and full power pack

Dionysus is also the god of art so this is about art not drinking wine.

This reaction needs more views!

I recommend a singer called Diana Navarro. With the song "El perdón" she is very versatile and sings different styles of music with incredible melismas. And with a very personal voice.

so for you " practice makes you perfect" probably doesnt exist , but "militaristic" exists...

This is not about drinking. It about their artistic addiction. Btw I still can't get over Jin's deep humming in the Dynosis. ...

My megalophobia (megalophobia is the fear of large objects ) was screaming at the start of the live performance 😭

I feel possesed when I listen to and watch Dionysus performance.

RM is holding the thyrsus. It is a giant walking stick/ wand type thing. Imagine Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings or Moses from the Bible with his staff.

I don't think you got the point of what the song is all about

War of Hormones is when they were younger and is funny.

Ohhhhhh the flashes of light during Suga's verse imma put a warning here - avoid trigger for seizure (avoid flashing lights*)

I feel like we've seen this reaction before... but I mean, I'm not complaining :D

@-amel-9896

2 жыл бұрын

i think this is a reupload ig

@iamsherlocked875

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same when i saw his reaction to fix you cover that was just uploaded several days ago. He,s done it 9 months ago actually

@lilacxx5461

2 жыл бұрын

Now that you've mentioned it, I think I saw this one too before and I noticed that the comment in his twitch live was blurred, I think that's the reason since it was not blurred when I first watched this, and hell, people are so rude and ill mannered. I'm glad he blurred it, no headache for me lol

Could someone please link me the specific video he reacted to?

Watch any BTS concert on MAMA. Fantastic shows!

it’s about drinking art not alcohol:)

You should really react to MAMA 2019 full performance as others already said. You can understand their full capabilities!!!

Please react to their MMA 2019 Performance, it was insane!

This is only one song out of their two and a half hour/ three hour concert and in some songs they do more choreography and in other songs they dont need to dance and just move however they like and they have a lot of different types of songs from rock to hiphop to pop which makes sense since they have 7 members and each member write and produces songs (mainly the rappers) so obviously each song have different styles and every each member have solo songs. I think a good concert to watch is kzread.info/dash/bejne/iIdkl7ahgs26hMY.html. And BTS “film out” live song: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKqWpretorq5pJM.html which showcase their vocals.

yes,....but what does the puppy think?

PLEASE REACT TO BTS - YOUR EYES TELL and also THE TRUTH UNTOLD their vocals is so impressive

PURE ARTISTIC GROUP. BTS KINGS OF KPOP!!!!

@rafaelsmith5737

4 ай бұрын

They're not Kpop

👍👍💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

This is live not prerecorded

It’s from 2019

3:33 jungkooks vocal stability and power just always stand out to me on these live stages with exceptional aerobic choreography. There’s a very clear difference in his strength of projecting his voice in such a smooth way that your never know he was moving… you can hear the others hittting their parts but def not as loud for the most part… but they sound great regardless … rappers so powerful… but I hate that this video is really doing a terrible job at showing the insane artistry of this staging. Almost the whole song here is in close ups instead of the wider shot to show the whole point. Also bts doesn’t just ave one sound or style of song lol they tackle any and all genres you could imagine. This is a terrible performance for vocals lol and the way it’s shot makes it feel more chaotic than it really is

Watch festa room live 2021

you should react to magic shop

Okay but you've already reacted to this ! 🤔

Hi i appreciate your reaction to Dionysus !! Can you please react to Dimash Qudaibergen singing S.O.S the singer 2017 or his perfomance of "Unforgettable day" in Gakku 🙏❤

6:32

Loved your reaction! Thanks for sharing such good content with us. Could you please react to mamamoo (South Korean, 4 members girl group). They are known as the vocal queens of kpop. Their live vocals are absolutely amazing. Could you please react to mamamoo’s killing voice medley. It is a live medley performance of most of their title tracks. I just know you’ll love it and we would also love to see your reaction to it 😊😊

Damn the MMA 2019 Dionysus stage is better than this one imo…. But anything they do is always another level… I’m so happy for them finally getting seen as they should be People would be shocked at the storytelling elements to their concerts… it happens with every single thing they do !

THE SONG IS NOT ABOUT PARTYING. THEY NEVER PROMOTED PARTYING

Please react to SB19 MAPA OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO

There is a better live video of this song with other at the MAMA's

Jungkook king of acapella by Ida s kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWtssKeempbHmsY.html Lots of raw vocals… some with mic and some without… some bts songs and some English songs so you really get a better understanding of his versatility…. His vocal stability kinda works against him in bts music…. They’re all so good though.. just personal preference for me is all Stay gold live by bts… If you cover by jungkook on masked singer .. make sure it’s the full 4 min performance

Namjoon is so hot there 😏🔥💘

beyonce is more militaristic is you think about it...

You're a vocal coach who doesn't know what a thyrsus is🤔... Where were you taught musical theory? It's very well documented the connection between theatre, art, music and drinking in Ancient Greece, especially in the Dyonisiacs, a pan-hellenic festival where you could show your artistry and ability to move people.

Getting overstimulated and drunk on too much indulgence in art

Just watch your reaction ! At one moment you say BTS performance has impact because they are the only group at the moment who is able to sing and dance so intensively at the same time .... it's extremely false and misleading. In Korea particulary and in Asia in general they are a lot of groups who can dance and sing at a mastered level but BTS is the most famous for a lot of reason : they do most of the songs productions and writting lyrics and melodies, their lyrics are a lot more deep than what you seem to imagine (Dionysus is not about being drunk literaly .... but about being drunk on art) and they are often inspired by books on psychology, their rapline who is one of the best in the kpop industrie, their vocal range, their dance performance, their stage presence who is top notch (a lot of groups tried to cover their songs but honestly few have approached their level, on the other side all songs BTS covers is almost becoming theirs), their stamina on stage, the causes they advocate, ..... and the list goes on. I think you will need to watch and listen to other songs to comprehend the phenomen that is BTS in the music world !!

A lot of double meanings in this song

I somehow don’t like the way he reacted to them here.. I know he did not say anything particularly bad but the overall vibe.. NOPE

No me gustó su come ntario. Excesivamente plagado de limitaciones. Un desconocimiento sobre la letra, la intención del tema y prejuiciosa sobre un grupo que ha roto estereotipos y ha luchado contra las ideas militaristas... Una desilusión.

The year was 2019 (date is the 6 digit number at the end of the title). Helpful tip: a lot of the times dates are written like that. 19 (2019) 10 (October) 27 (27th) Sometimes the year will be all 4 digits, so then it would be 8 total

This is only one song out of their two and a half hour/ three hour concert and in some songs they do more choreography and in other songs they dont need to dance and just move however they like and they have a lot of different types of songs from rock to hiphop to pop which makes sense since they have 7 members and each member write and produces songs (mainly the rappers) so obviously each song have different styles and every each member have solo songs. I think a good concert to watch is kzread.info/dash/bejne/iIdkl7ahgs26hMY.html. And BTS “film out” live song: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKqWpretorq5pJM.html which showcase their vocals.