It's laminated g10. It's super flexible. The first race drones were made of laminated g10 back in the day. It's not very strong. It flexes too much and is cheap to produce. My Chinese carbon fiber is just laminated g10. It tricks people who never owned real carbon fiber before. It is hard to flex a 3mm thick carbon plate. It's super stiff. We call the Chinese Carbon fiber Glam-Fiber. lol.

Good honest review! I agree, I would not have bought this at full retail price of $250. $150 shipped presale was about right at the time. My main purpose for this was to have a small basher to take on the road with me since it has the nice lil travel case. I have yet to install the 17t pinion, Sensored 390 motor & HW 10bl120. Kinda wanna see if this Mamba Max Pro works too.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you also $150 basher hands down would sell out because its a good platform to build on as a roller. Esc and motor are junk. If your running sensored 17 or 15 is a must. What kv did you get? Are you running for speed only or dirt? Your esc will be fine but watch your motor temps. I honestly think you'll be happier with an lcracing truggy motor 2850 4500kv 19t pinion OR remove the slipper and put a wl center drive fixed gear with you sensored motor.

@VDVC-RC

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc been looking for a mod 0.8 spur to install or modify a larger mod 0.8 pinion. I have plenty of WLtoys parts for spares, but I had an ARRMA 4s motor in it just for kicks... Broke a few spur gears because I had the wrong pitch pinion 🤦🏾‍♂️

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@VDVC-RC I wouldn't do that bro stick with the 17t or 19t pinion keep it simple and lightweight.

I was tempted by these but not at that price. I bought a 124017 V2 and a 144001 instead. I have slowly been adding a few LC parts to the 124. BHC-1 rear tires, low profile LC fronts, droop screws, and sway bars are next. I love the way it handles for now. Using the 144 more as a basher though I have lowered that too. I am glad I did not pull the trigger on the AMX-12

@RickOAA

Жыл бұрын

I went with the same two. I'm going to use the 124017 V2 as a street basher and the 144001 for our in yard offroad track. The drivetrain on the brushless did not hold up well and had to be entirely upgraded to LC Racing axles and the "hardened" diffs and center shaft. It pays to have spare differential drive cups as well.

Absolutely great video. I have been going back and forth on if I should buy one. This helped me make that choice. I think I will get the LC 1/12 kit instead..

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Same here I honestly didn't want it at all but I had to let it be known they are full of themselves to be overcharging customers on flashy stuff. Just wait a little I will show you both a truggy and 12B1 side by side. On your grass the truggy will shine till you get the carpet going.

@reitplace4765

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Very cool look forward to the video. Its hard for me to spend that much on a RC car. I generally stick with 100 dollar specials so this was truly the choice 200 on LC when I can get the AM-12 with all the catchy cool upgrades.. I will be ordering my LC12 this week. Just yesterday I almost got a return lot of AM-12 from amazon cause it was cheaper haha. so glad I didn't

It looks like it's plastic but a fake weave print doesn't necessarily mean it's fake carbon fiber. Don't worry about the flex as it might be a good thing that increases survivability in a crash and aide in traction and handling. Carbon fiber fishing poles and arrow shafts are extremely flexible too.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Wait ✋ if your paying for a carbon chassis on an rc car that goes 40+mph wouldn't you expect a light weight and stiff chassis? When the gears are relying on straight engagement of chassis and and top plate to not shred. What exactly would be the benefit of that much flex? My front shock tower also broke on its second run 4th lap. Took that apart and was able to just snap it with my fingertips. I honestly don't care if it is or isn't carbon fiber. I care about the kids as the are now sold at $280. Price per value this is a clone of an actual high quality race vehicle Rlaarlo is now more money then an LC Racing.

@toolbaggers

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc The gears are mounted on a metal motor mount, the gears in the diff are sealed and the ring and pinion gears of the diffs and drive shafts are firmly mounted inside the bulkheads. Any flex should be handled by the dog bone couplings and universal shafts thus maintaining proper gear mesh. Back in the early 90's people figured out chassis need flex not super stiff bracing. Modern RC racing cars are designed to flex. Study the chassis and you can see where the engineers designed the chassis to flex. This is most evident in traction critical classes like pan cars and drift cars. Even in bashing, stuff like Traxxas and aftermarket companies like RPM make their stuff flexible so it doesn't break. Even in full scale racing like top fuel dragsters, their chassis are designed to flex to increase traction. Safety wise, they figured out in the 60's that super stiff cars kill the drivers in collisions. This is why we have crumple zones. You have to design in weak points so you can control how something flexes and ultimately gets destroyed in a controlled manner.

@toolbaggers

Жыл бұрын

The main reason that people don't use all metal RC car parts is to control flex.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@toolbaggers you gave a detailed description on the drive line assembly, that does not change the fact that I can twist the chassis to change the sound and feel of clearly the drive tran binding. Which is the reason the sell real carbon top plate for LC racing cars to nearly eliminate flex along with hard arms to make the car as stiff as possible. Its also great you know a little about the 60's but we are talking about a mini buggy designed after a carpet racer. I'm very familiar with carpet set up and flex is something you want to eliminate as the traction is more precise. Not sure why the comparison of drag and drift but let's go there. Can you point me to any chassis that has so much flex the rear tires elevate ABOVE the front one from a simple twist that can also handle very well on a track? I can't twist any other carbon parts I own let alone snap them with my fingers. I hear the point your trying to make but considering rlaarlo isn't using this carbon on the new release should say something to its durability. If flex is warranted why not have it on a DT that drives only in dirt conditions? I guess they didn't see the benefit of a $20 carbon kit sold from aliexpress or found the same flaws I pointed out. Something I did find interesting China 🇨🇳 had the option of a metal chassis. USA 🇺🇸 never seen that version wonder why that was? My guess was not to our benefit. AMX-12 = $280 (for a wltoys)

@thearthur9801

11 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Flex is actually good for an rc car in most cases. Carbon fiber is strong but on the long term, it ain't gonna last if it's brittle, on an rc car. You NEED your chassis to be flexible, not brittle. And the carbon fiber they use has a good chance of being real, not all carbon fiber feels the same. There are many 'carbon fiber' items which are intentionally built to flex, depending on the use case.

Thanks for the insider insight, very informative. Subscribed

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

🙌 appreciate your comments!

Thanks for the review ive kinda wanted one of these but instead i settled for upgrading my wltoys 124017 v2 with parts from this, adjustable motor mount slipper clutch and center drive shaft carbon fiber drag link and sway bars that i havent put on yet

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I actually did the same thing and I'm very happy with the wl version. It drives really well around the track and doesn't break. I think this car has hope but needs to many upgrades to get it there.

Just found your channel. With others kissing the manufacturers arse, I love your honest review. That's a sub from me.. 👍

AM-x12 broke at my first run attempt. One cardan, the plastic arm, the suspension and servo (metal geared but one plastic gear inside). Then I bought the extra pieces in the official store (at a quite expensive price), tried another run and then the wheel cup broke also (Another 15 days and pricey spares). Finding spare parts for Rlaarlo is impossible out of their expensive shop. All of the spares are very similar to WLtoys parts but have slight differences so you can't use them together. Different screws, different bearing sizes, etc. Spare parts are very expensive compared to the car itself and cannot be replaced by any other aftermarket parts. This makes a huge difference with WLtoys that can be upgraded for a fraction of the price and maybe faster shipping.

As a professional racer this car may be one of the best 1/12 scale cars, this car has a soft suspension system, meaning it will be good for bashing on grass, drifting on dirt and sand, bumping on low height (10-25 inches) bumps, racing it on low height carpet or any ground. This car has two pinions, one for speed testing and one for bashing, the speed test one is the stock 27t pinion that is guaranteed to hit 60mph, and the other is a 17t that is used for bashing and racing. because of the high gearing and soft suspension, this beast cannot be used for playing with very high ramps and hard landings with a 27t pinion that explodes the shafts and makes the car undrivable. This car is designed to have two options and not one, just like I said for 17t you can do anything with it except high hard and big 1-1.5 meter high jumps (soft ground is OK for big 17t jumps). BTW 3s is just way to strong and fast for racing and bashing this car. So final opinion this car is a very good option for racing bashing and speed testing for the following rules: 17T pinion: Bashing, bumping (jumping) and racing on sand gravel dirt carpet and grass. Asphat racing and speed testing Suitable for 3s and 2s. The 27T pinion: Speed testing only. Suitable for 2s and 3s. Decent for sand dirt gravel grass speeding. PLUS: the carbon fiber used by this car is Normal, the carbon fiber thickness is too thin, that's why it bends and flexes. But at the same time when it slams on surface it will flex and return to it's normal shape, making it a good advantage for alloy Chassis cars. Try bending it 45° trust me it will break at 50°. Never try to fail a car on purpose like this, people want to see what this thing actually does, it's a beast for the price (bit pricy lmao) carbon fiber on this car wouldn't break easily, it will degrade and break ofc

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

60 mph is non included 3s top speed Stock with 27t is 45mph All my LC & WL track cars range from 37mph -45mph. The included 17t was intended for running 3s and would be way to slow on 2s which is why I didn't install it & I don't run 3s on any track car. The 27t can be used on big jumps let explain the problem you see in this video. All Chinese rc companies esc are pre-programmed with a soft puch setting for beginner drivers and to prevent stripping the soft metals provided in the drive assembly. The rlaarlo esc has 2 stages in the trigger pull which makes in near impossible for any kind of air control. A correct punch value and properly set slipper clutch from factory would have made the car drive able and a slim chance of breaking. Isn't that the purpose of the slipper clutch? Changing to a hobby grade adjustable esc fixes this issue. -To much chassis flex is an additional spring rate that can create more grip & makes the car unpredictable in corners depending on speed and force. This also gives the potential of Diffing - out while its trying to fight against the suspension in high traction carpet. -Steering also has an extreme amount of play before the servo saver is activated. The springs are actually firm and long. The soft landing you feel is do to the ride (height for off road and large jumps). Not sure how a pro racer overlooked all of its flaws and settings 🤔 So price for value a (clone of a clone) that cost more then all of my (original) LCRACING platform RTR/KIT and wl track (clone) cars....rlaarlo is garbage at $300. A fully built lc12b1 is mid motor 3 sets of springs and 3 sets of sway bars. Real stiff carbon fiber. Fully upgraded with quality electronics Also $300. Better in every way!!! A car company that has never needed revisions or YT channels to give feedback on problems. Hobby grade plastic and metal. As a clone if you think an $300 AMX-12 is comparable to an LC then your delusional.

@AGRspeedlab

8 ай бұрын

The Amx12 is freaking amazing. This guy is just a hater for no reason. Mine just did 62mph bone freaking stock

@Murphys_Law9

5 ай бұрын

@@AGRspeedlabOnce u add a different battery that’s not stock 😅

@AGRspeedlab

5 ай бұрын

@@Murphys_Law9 well its 3s rated just not included when you purchase it. But nothing in the car was upgraded at all

My issue is: there is a set screw that connects the drive shaft to the front. The set screw comes out every ride, removing power from the front wheels. The manual and parts diagram makes no mention of the set screw, but it is the same size as the one for the pinion. I’ve lost 2 in 2 rides, so I’ve ordered an assortment of metric set screws and will loctite them. Otherwise, it’s a fun car.

I never understood the rrlarlo craze going on. How can a company sell rc's for 150 then charge 200+ month later and people not see the play.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Its $280 now, being sold to kids and NEW rc enthusiasts.

@martins2657

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Yes, their normal prices are not correspond to quality/value. 280$ is like a bad joke. It is not far from for example Arrma Typhon 3S, it costs only more 100$. But difference in price is reasonable, because of the 1/8 size. But huge difference in support, durability and the fun. Rlaarlo is maybee average for tough USA/UK style of the dirt track, but we have dirt dusty track and there is 1/12 Rlaarlo totally unpredictable and also jumping is a pain. Nice small toy in presale prices, but not serious model to run. Its the shame that my favourite u-tubers over-hype Rlaarlo like golden nugget. Something absolute extraordinarily that God must go on the surface for see it on live. I have few jumps with X-12 and some parts get out from their ball joints. I will not order spare parts, when it break i will try to fix with another similar parts, when nothing fit, take electronic out and put on the shelf. I have it in my collection, but for this normal price is no reason for buying. If they would stay on lowered prices, i could say: "It is okay" Just try and will see.

@Murphys_Law9

5 ай бұрын

@@ixclusivercIt’s $150 on amazon. Show me another car that can do 60+ for that price

8:51 instead of talking about for the next several minutes just take a fucking knife and scrape away the "print" and prove it (to your self mainly)

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I stripped every layer of the shock tower which took zero effort. I can snap it with my fingers while its doubled up. You already seen the chassis flex so I'm not sure what else needs to be said even if it is low grade carbon... thoughts?

Fantastic honest evaluation of the buggy. It's a shame the chassis are not genuine carbon fibre........I've just paid $200.00 / £168.00 which includes shipping to me in UK. Unfortunately I hasnt seen this video before I purchased anyway I'm hoping what I've paid comes in the 'good price' bracket as I will replace the bendy chassis before I run it Thanks again for a great evaluation

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

If your just running the car as a basher the chassis will be fine in dirt and street driving. I wouldn't skate park it. Start with these mods first. -Remove the shock collars If you want to keep the motor and esc try would try the 17t on 3s Or 27t and plastic wl spur and shaft.. The wl in this vid has a 2850 4500kv on 17t with rlaarlo mount & slipper. It drives well So the platform itself has hope just takes more money to get it there. I'll make a video for you👍

@jamesipock3669

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc You sure it is not a 35 amp?

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesipock3669 i use the hobbywing 30 as a benchmark of heat values only running on 2s. Batteries. Running this esc without the fan creates very hot temps and have been known to melt. There is really no way to measure what the actual amps are so not sure. On the other hand NOT being adjustable, delay in throttle and hot temps shows its not quality.

great and i just order the Rlaarlo AK-917 all carbon fiber roller i didnt like the looks of there esc and radio grear i hope the car i order is real carbon fiber you seem real knowledgeable with this company product do you think the ak-917 will be up with all the hype and when will they ship my car out??? i bought it around 4/26 right before it went off sale by the way i love your back yard my wife would never let me do that

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it will be the same material and still a good chance its made by WLTOYS which would give OK durability. Dont look at this of you getting screwed especially at the pre-sale price because if you don't like it you can sell it quickly. Build it and have fun brother. My main goal is not to bash the company but to have them lower the prices to what they should always be sold at. Thank you for the question and comment 🙏

I reviewed a production version months ago. I thought I had a lemon. Front tower is composite while rear one is carbon fiber. I didn't check the chassis. I wonder if they do a switch and bates on us? I thought $150 pre-sale price was good, as my review and yours confirmed, Rlaarlo has either quality issue and/or flat out lying to us. I am also concerned about pricing for the US ... and I am not sure if I should release that information I found!

@alphawlff

Жыл бұрын

Do it

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

The only way they will lower the pricing. Is if we call them out on all the lies. Most rc guys have already purchased this we need to protect the kids and new rc beginners from being ripped off. You already know I have big respect for you and your channel I would love to hear your thoughts. Post a link here so we can all see it 👍

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Something I just found out... AM-X12 was available in metal chassis but only sold in China the new Rlaarlo DT has that metal chassis. Makes me wonder why all the switching? Did they know of this problem then sent them to every other country?

I jumped from WLToys to LC Racing because of easier parts availability in the US. Fun little cars. Love your track.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely 2-3 day shipping Warren rc Riptide rc both are great people and care about thier customers. Thanks brotha 🙏 💯

Are you getting the new WlToys 124008 that looks like it uses the MJX chassis?

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

MJX is made by Haiboxing that car is almost a hybrid wl/hbx which is very interesting 🤔. I'll look at it again closer. I just wished they sold rollers.🙂

im new to the rc buggy hobby. i just got ordered mines from amazon for $170 (seems like i got a deal based off of others). im now hoping this will do great in open fields with grass and dirt. anything information i should know?

@ixclusiverc

5 ай бұрын

I'm so glad they brought the price down $170 is a great deal... out of the box the car will run fine but I would recommend changing the esc as soon as you can to get the best control from the car. Other then that my center drive grub screws came loose so blue locktite. Just have fun with when it starts to feel slow to you go 3s battery 🔋.

@oscarcaminas2617

5 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc thankss, i had my first day w it yesterday and it’s been great, i’ve had plenty of control and i’m now upgrading to 3s. excited to try all the extra power. what esc would u recommend upgrading to or what should i be looking for in a esc?

I still think it’s a pretty decent car, but at regular price it’s way too much $$. The presale price to me was a good fair deal to me and that’s the price they should be asking for these . I can see if someone is out racing that this chassis has way to much flex to be true carbon. I think to me, it looks like a carbon laminate like they use to wrap around motorcycle mufflers, so it needs to offer some flex. Rlaarlo offers the hardened steel axles for these which are really good. They maybe should of designed some hardened steel drive cups as well. All in all I think these are solid little cars and fun bashers. I have every Rlaarlo named model except for the 917 and will soon be purchasing the desert buggy. I think some people are over critical on these even if they recommend buying only at sale prices. I totally get being critical at the regular price. So far I am happy with all of mine . Rlaarlo as a company sent me another car after a rear diff went.( my fault running a 2s car on 3s in the grass) They’ve been great! Still I do appreciate your fair evaluation of this. Thanks for sharing my friend!

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

All of my cars are custom builds set up to drive well around the track 9 are lc racing ( 2 cars broke 3 parts) 7 hbx ( never broke a single part in 2 yrs) 6 wl toys ( there are 2 left as the track destroyed them). The cvd are not hardened there same material as a WL just thicker in the center. I've snapped 4 of them in the first month of use. Sent all 20 sets back. I'm not a basher and would like to think I'm a good driver along with being a tech. My problem isn't the car it's how they are now charging $279. On Amazon. Is this how the fund$$ the giveaways to youtubers? As the contest will flood algorithms to drive more sales at a more then premium price. How is that fair for the average consumer? Also have you driven an LC Racing to compare in quality and driving? Thank you for your comment 🙏

@BangForYourBuckRc

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc I agree that the $279 asking price is way over what it should be. I think this is a $140-$150 car. For that price, it would be much more worth it. The extras are a nice touch. The cvd’s that Rlaarlo had problems with breaking were replaced by ones that were re-engineered and sold as “hardened steel” units that have to be purchased separately. I had bought some for my purple buggy with verification numbers on the axles themselves. Whether they really are hardened or not I don’t know. I do know they are way stronger than the originals. These are supposed to be available for the X12 as well and sold separately. I do not do any racing as the nearest track is over 70 miles from me. So bashing is what I do with all kinds of various “budget” Rc’s . what worries me about Rlaarlo is that they started out as a great way to enter the hobby but,for someone who is new and missed the big pre sale event , the regular price of their intermediate cars are definitely overvalued. I usually tell my watchers what a car should be priced at and warn them not to buy unless the price has been lowered to what it’s actually worth. On another note, I love your track and ramp set up you have. That must of taken some considerable time and $$ to put together! Great job and great channel brother!👊🏼💯😎

@dannysdailys

5 ай бұрын

Do you notice how these companies always get you to always say "it's my fault." No, it's not your fault they make junk that constantly breaks.

@BangForYourBuckRc

5 ай бұрын

@@dannysdailys sorry to hear you feel that way bro. I think the AM k12 is amazing!

@dannysdailys

5 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it. @@BangForYourBuckRc

They’re solid on performance when you change out the pinion with the smaller one included in box however parts take forever to get to the usa from china aaaaand when you rebuild them they have a tendency to get an obstruction in the plastic hardware (front A arms mainly), this causes friction thus the shocks get stuck and don’t expand back how they should, I don’t recommend these Rlaarlo 1/12 brushless buggies. Gonna try to return 1 of 2 that I bought

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I agree it does drive just ok with some mods. Esc is garbage, 17t would have been way to slow for me. If you get rid of it consider a lc racing Emb-t. It's everything rlaarlo is trying so hard copy. Absolute quality 👌

I ordered the wltoys newest version of the blue 12th scale buggy..will drive it on short grass,dirt and pavement..i am sure you have the skill to set it up to perform pretty decent on a carpet track like yours..thanks for sharing😊

@ixclusiverc

2 күн бұрын

@roadstar499 your absolutely correct. I just ran it out of the box to see what the hype was at the time. I did make several changes and suggest the same for your WL. Stock esc are designed for a beginner in mind. It has a long dead spot in the trigger and a delay in acceleration. Changing this will give you full control. Transmitter does not have a dual rate, so Changing terrain makes it difficult to avoid spinning. The Dumbo TX this car came with is actually very nice. Tires are very important for grip and the wltoys tire are awesome but if you can remove them and install on a rim with a +5 or +6 offset on the 1/12, you will like it much better.

@ixclusiverc

2 күн бұрын

@roadstar499 this video is much better after all the changes and adjustments it became my best driving wl car. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2iAr7qAns3JdaQ.htmlsi=MTCS2_aY1znLVeFT

Finally ! Finally someone speaks the truth ! When you drill a small hole you can observe the true materials used.

I have tested X12 last week on the dusty dirt track for 1/10-1/8 buggy. It is totally unpredictable in jumps and also in normal driving. I bought it for pre-sale 149$ and think that is max price for which is worth to. Normal price is so close to way better buggies. Nice toy but not really model. Including hex screws which have standard phillips thread...nice for collection, but not a really serious buggy for run for example dirt track. Maybee some bashing why not, but it getting borring when there is no goal. Track training is way better. I just bashed around the house, street few years, but it is nothing when i compare it with track including jumps etc :-)

@hook1fight

5 ай бұрын

Give me any car and a track. No excused . More money doesnt make you a better driver.

It can be paint on top of carbon fiber. CF should be stiff though. That’s the whole reason bikes are made of CF, so you can have the best power transfer from your legs to the wheels.

Is it possible that lighter and flexible was the desired property?

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Its very possible but with a breaking point and flex weaker then plastic and metal whats the true advantage if you paying more for it? For it to break an buy over and over again. My shock tower broke on its 4th lap on the second run. My lc carbon tower lasted over a year. Who gains from this you as a consumer or Rlaarlo

I don’t know man Yeah the fake carbon fiber is kinda bullshit but I’ve spent more on a set of wheels (no tires) for a crawler than this whole car with a battery and I’ve had good luck with mine but I guess there’s always room for improvement. I did rebuild the shocks and diffs right off the bat before I drove it. But saying that I liked hearing your thoughts on it 👍. (I got mine for the $150 price point)

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

They are now being sold at $275. On Amazon Because of everyone saying how amazing they are. This car is now more money then an every LC Racing vehicles with included hobbywing electronics. Think about that for a minute 🤔 $275+ taxfor a slightly better 124019 25amp esc(not 45amp as advertised, fake carbon with a xemlong q901 motor. I'm with you, i have brushless set ups that cost more then the cars they are in. Upgrading is absolutely the fun part. My beef is the stating price point for value.

@prettyboiwill5041

6 ай бұрын

If you search it up you can find them for 150

@Murphys_Law9

5 ай бұрын

@@prettyboiwill5041Yup even on Amazon just ordered mine

You can get them for 200 even now with a code online I found. Easy find the code. It's a nice car, but I agree 250 is too much money for it. Honetsky all you need to have fun is a 100 bucks brushed 124018 wltoys and make beach race tracks. This was overkill for me. 😂

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

They actually have them on Amazon for $275. I really wanted to buy just the roller for $100. But rlaarlo wanted $40. for shipping🤯. I actually built a wl thats in this video using rlaarlo parts. The wl platform is great with the correct set up for conditions. I just feel bad for the people that actually paid over $250. Because of hyped reviews

I wondering where did you buy AM-X12?

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I purchased it direct but don't pay full price. There are YT channels that will have discount code for 30% off. I also found them on Amazon for $200.

Looks like KZread didn't like me pasting a link in the comments. If you Google QuadifyRC AM-X12 it should bring you to the write up I did on this car. Overall, I agree with your review. Like I said, I'm happy enough with mine to bash around off road. I'm running 85mm tires (LC EMB-MT), 19t pinion and a Hobbywing Max10 120A ESC and it scoots along happily with better response compared to the 27t. Again, at the pre-sale price it was good value. At full price, get an LC.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Lol I was about to ask if you deleted everything 🤣 yup outside link for sure. I actually did see you response with the link........ You want my honest opinion? You should really consider starting a small YT channel. Your detailed description was perfect in every way. Its a great way for us to grow these mini and gain true knowledge. You got my sub already 👍

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Oh I have a video of similar set up 19t 2850 lc tuggy motor. You will be very happy with that motor in the rlaarlo.

@RC-Elevation

Жыл бұрын

@ixclusive RC the blog isn't mine, but I provide content for it from time to time. I was contemplating starting something, maybe now is a good time! 🤔

The easiest way is to check the chassis with an ohm meter. it should have resistance. I promise it won't because it is 100% fake carbon fiber.

Sir what is the diameter of your tire? Does it wobble?

@ixclusiverc

8 ай бұрын

They are 65mm smaller then the stock tires, rims are a are plastic and are 6mm offset. Both found on Amazon. No Wobble if they are glued correctly.

@loybots4624

8 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc mine got wobble out of the box 😢

@ixclusiverc

8 ай бұрын

@@loybots4624 explain? Stock tires or aftermarket. And what's wobbly the tires or rims?

@loybots4624

8 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc i have the stock tire. I has visible wobble in low speed but not much in high speed. I dont know if this is normal

@loybots4624

8 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc i think thr rim

They are marketed and sold as speed run buggies. If track racing is what you need it for, there will be setup and modifications.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

We both know that's not true.

@JohnSmith-zz3mq

10 ай бұрын

​@@ixclusivercsounds exactly right

@ixclusiverc

10 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-zz3mq this is directly from Rlaarlo site. Where exactly do you see speed run? " We proudly present the upgraded 1/12 high-speed RC buggy #AM-X12. It features a 45A Separate ESC and 2847-3200KV brushless motor for speeds up to 80KMH (Potentially 100KMH on a 3S battery). This brushless buggy comes ready out of the box to bash and blast on any terrain including a 2S (7.4V 2800 mAh) battery. A bag of spares and accessories is also included in the box for you." Its claims a 3s speed of ... So your saying my track is just to much for this car on 2s? Lol 😆 The problem I found was the garbage esc that has a throttle delay for new drivers. Its a beginners car with flashy parts that break AS SEEN IN THIS VIDEO.

Wow you pointed out something truly different. I agree with you. Definitely not carbon fiber

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

On the second run i broke the shock tower again on the 4th lap🤣. I pulled every layer apart, It's a resin or fiberglass not sure which it is with something carbon like on the outside.

@scooterduren

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc 😂😂😂😂

@JohnSmith-zz3mq

10 ай бұрын

Everybody is saying it's not real carbon fiber-how do you know? Anyone officially had it tested for real? Otherwise all you have is meaningless words and accusations. It looks like the same on the 917 so I guess that's not true and all they are doing is trying to get $100 more on it?

its cool that yo have your own track but thats alot of obstacles why so many in such a tight spot

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Here is a faster 1/12 on the track..... kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKOOx8OInqeen9I.html Your saying I should calm the track down just for the AM-X12?

Thank you very much for your support! Please contact our customer service, we will solve all problems for you!

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

NO, NO I don't have a problem YOU DO! Why do you advertise this as carbon fiber? 45amp? (The esc is a 30amp at best) The motor is from a xinlehong Q901 which I purchased many at $10 each Thick dogbones that snap at the smaller part of the shaft.... 27t pinion Steel slipper clutch on a 1/12 scale... Really? Fine you want to lie to customers 😒 so be it, but to charge a premium price($250) for a boxed wltoys is absolutely insane! Maybe you should hire an actual tech and stop grabbing for cash 💸 🤔 🙄

@EdisonRCWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Bottom plate laying structure: T300 carbon fiber cloth+218 glass fiber cloth composite: carbon fiber 3K1 layer+carbon fiber single-phase 2 layers+5 layers of glass fiber cloth 218+carbon fiber single-phase 2 layers+carbon fiber 3K1 layer, a total of 11 layers.All other components are made of all carbon fiber，The main difficulty of this carbon fiber elevation structure lies in the fact that the production process and material prices do not differ significantly. Do you know why the chassis is set in this way?

@EdisonRCWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Thank you very much for your support! I hope you can actively communicate with us and grow together! I hope to have a positive side, of course, every blow is the driving force for our growth. RLAARLO will continue to grow, and I believe you will change your thinking when you see the new products of RLAARLO in the future!

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

​@@EdisonRCWorkshop thats a wild claim to say there are 11 layers of carbon fiber I peeled back all the layers of your broken carbon shock tower. Only the outside layers have a carbon cloth. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZ2Xtrd6isSWgJM.html I see 2 layers of carbon cloth. What makes up the rest of the 9 layers? Everything you just claimed, I just researched all of them have a carbon weave. Do I know why the chassis is set this way? Fiber that breaks on impact... Flex greater then a plastic chassis... No heat dissipation from the motor.... Weight savings (but not as light as real lc carbon fiber parts? ) Please I would love to hear why its set this way to justify a $250 price point!

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

​@@EdisonRCWorkshop I'm all about company growth but at a sacrifice of overcharging customers for a part in question as real carbon fiber. 30amp esc that will burn out... Motor from a Q901. Did you know the Bonzai 1/14 at one time cost more then a 144001. Current price is $40. Have you considered the backlash of people finding out your chassis isn't what they thought they were paying for? I can care less about your new products I care what people are paying for them and quality/reliability behind it. You want to change my mind keep your pre-sale price for your cars. This is an entry level WL basher not an LCRACING RC.

Hmmn I'd rather buy wltoys 124017 or the newer 124007 and put carbon chassis kit and call it a day🤣 definitely gonna build one myself for my speedrun build. I owned 124007 but i am converting that one as a basher with truggy conversion kit.

Stock outta the box it has the high speed pinion in it and it's super fast however you have to make sure the grub screws on the center drive shaft or loc tited or you will lose them and then the drive shaft will flop and bend....all in all a good little basher not too hard but fun👍🏼

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Second run i changed the pinion out. Still quick but had that strange delay. The reason I couldn't get this car to drive right is the ESC. There is a dead throttle range in the first part of the trigger. Very unpredictable on a track. Funny that you said that about the grub screw 😁 i also had that problem on the second run video. Didn't know what the sound was. Your absolutely correct both screws need thread loc. Thanks for the comment 👍

@scu-dub

Жыл бұрын

@ixclusiverc no prob man did you try tuning the throttle knob on the radio?

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@scu-dub tried that also. Not just this esc but any Chinese branded esc that can run 3s feels this way. MJX, WL, RLAARLO. They do it to make the car manageable for 3s battery. The other reason is most of these esc are on cars without slipper clutch. So they digitally tuned the esc to behave like a slipper to prevent stripping gears and doing instant backflips. Changing the esc was a big difference for me. Motor is good but really designed for 3s im going to switch it out to get me back up to 40 mph on the track.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@scu-dub here is the better run on this car...kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2iAr7qAns3JdaQ.html

@scu-dub

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc 👍🏼

What they do.... They use a fiber sheet and put a crap layer of lowend weave carbon on each side. And yes. I've seen real /quality carbon fiber with that surreal looking wide weave. Get to an corner edge area and shine a bright light behind it. Look close and I bet you can see light through it.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZ2Xtrd6isSWgJM.html Two things I discovered 1. It catches fire 🔥 and smells like plastic 2. I was able to get a middle section peeled off the glue ... one little clump all going the same direction has very soft bristles with no coating on them. Exactly what a paint brush looks like and behaves but black in color.

I actually had this exact car in my cart at Amazon. Not anymore. Like you said it’s way overpriced for what you get. Great vlog. Very informative. 👍 Sub 699

@ixclusiverc

3 ай бұрын

Hey brother I also have this car saved in cart to check its price from time to time. Right now they actually have it down to $159. Which is a great deal but what I noticed is the transmitter is no longer the dumbo Rc version they went back to the cheap Rlaarlo transmitter. I also don't know if it still has a carrying case. If your interested in one I converted this one to a Rlaarlo truggy proline wheels and tires with an mjx body and a bunch of other stuff. Let me know i can send you my contact info. No matter what welcome to the mini experience they really are so much fun in a small amount of space 👍

You're absolutely correct. This is not carbon fiber. I was able to see this on all these youtube videos alone before getting my hands on one of the cars from a friend. But all these youtubers are hyping this shitty company snd when i wrote about this in the comments i got flak left and right.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I've read all kinds of comments like that, those same people are more then welcome to come here and comment 😅. Rlaarlo can't buy me out with free stuff I care about the kids/customers as we all should!

@martins2657

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc For many normal people is a just another toy in collection. I also do not understand so high hype about their new onroad. For the same price as normal, i can have 1/10 Serpent/Xray/Corally/Associated full real carbon and aluminium from the second hand. Yes it is not new, but durability is extraordinary and spare parts avaiable also in the middle of Europe. I can not imagine buy RTR for 399$ from almost unknown company. As normal price of for example AK-917 is. Over hype can be contraproductive some times. Time just show the real value. For me pre-sale was okay, but normal prices are some kind of sci-fi.

Carbon fiber is conductive. Find an edge where there should be exposed carbon/no resin/epoxy from drilling/milling and check the resistance with a multimeter.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I did make a follow up video taking each layer apart. Its somewhat resistant to burning but I can snap it with just my fingers then again doubled up. Sounds like you might know a little about carbon any insight would be awesome 👌. thank you for the comment.

Why not give the carbon fibre a bit of scrape to see if it is actually carbon fibre?

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZ2Xtrd6isSWgJM.html I peeled off every layer of the shock tower looks like fiberglass. If it won't load the video link let me know ill switch it to public

I decided to pass on all of the rlaarrlo cars and buy a Redcat still very happy with my Redcat Mt10 not a road racer the definitely built to last😈

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Redcat has been around they make great vehicles at a awesome value 👍

They call that carbon fiber laminate in knife scales. It’s junk.

It's not carbon fiber. I have several 10th car chassis that are and there is no flex in them at all. In fact, they're like armor plate and very strong. Which of course, was the point. They save 1/2 a pound in weight over a metal chassis, and I've never hurt one at all. What you're showing has all the flex of cheap plastic. If it is carbon fiber, it's the junkiest cheapest carbon fiber I've ever seen.

Oh great back yard ..lol....every rc fanatic should have this set up lol....fantastic ❤

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

🙌👍

@tonylatter5094

Жыл бұрын

Ah thank you, the video will be great to see....👍

I bought one at the 150 presale price. I wish I would have bought two.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

If you have a WL it can easily be converted to a amx-12. I personally like the plastic spur better the the metal slipper. If you keep the slipper go 17t with 3s or higher kv motor. The car can absolutely be set up to preform well. Hobby wing esc and a good transmitter. Carbon chassis is sold on aliexpress for $23. I'll still make videos on how to properly set this car up for better performance.

@kenyanr1

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc I have 3 wltoys. 2, 144001, and 1 144017. The rlaarlo are far more durable than either of the wltoys and no throttle delay issues. I like my wltoys but the amx-12 at the presale price blows the wltoys out of the water. With that being said, I would not pay 200 for the rlaarlo.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@kenyanr1 I completely agree 👍.

@kenyanr1

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Thanks for the reply! Im gonna have to go through your videos and check out your builds

I just picked one of these up today. Super disappointing for the money, absolute garbage compared to LC Racing. I thought WLtoys were decent for the money so I expected a lot out of the Rlaarlo for $250. Same experience with the flex in the "carbon" chassis. Mine also has terribly sloppy steering, tons of play in all the linkages. I went to tighten up the linkage hardware and found several factory stripped bolts. Terrible quality. For anyone looking at these save yourself the hassle and get an LC Racing car.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that steering slop on my second run. It's really bad, I agree 👍.

@martins2657

Жыл бұрын

I had stripped bolt also from the factory on the back and body holder. Also another thing is, the screws are not hex standard. They have thread like standard phillips cross screws, so density of the thread is lower...at X12. AK917 has the full standard hexes with proper thread.

Low quality carbon fiber is shitty. I had a cheap fishing reel handle made from carbon fiber and a good one that was high quality. The difference in strength and flex is insane. The cheap one I snapped in half just by feeling the strength and flexing it. So now I don't buy carbon fiber that's cheap or on aliexpress. When it comes to cf my experience is you get what you pay for 😊

@ixclusiverc

11 ай бұрын

Facts ☝☝☝☝☝

I love mine

@ixclusiverc

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you do. Did you pay $300 for it? Might want to consider changing the esc to hobbywing or anything not preprogrammed. This is a beginners car and program for a new driver due to its punch delay. I built this one up to preform well but had to change several things for it to be driven hard.

@atvlifefam2424

8 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc nope 199.00

@atvlifefam2424

8 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc I’ve been looking to rebuild but they use a weird 0.7 mod pinion

@ixclusiverc

8 ай бұрын

@@atvlifefam2424 oh brother thats not a problem the only one you need is the wltoys 19t they are like $6. I think its the best for this motor setup. Definitely change that esc first then see if your happy with it. 19t on 3s or if you really want to get crazy put an LCRACING truggy motor with 17t or 19t. I have one of that set up also. Perfect for 2s almost undrivable on 3s😅.

Don't know why your chassis flexes so much. Mine does not. Maybe you're really strong. Lol. Even with small flex, I don't think it would effect casual use. Nice video though.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you boss. For regular use its fine for most. Now that I've had time with this car changing the esc was the most noticeable profomance gain. Thanks for the comment 👍

@robertshelton2605

Жыл бұрын

@ixclusiverc I agree about the carbon fiber being fake. I have Carbon fiber parts on my Losi Mini B, and the look and quality is totally different. 👌

As someone in the carbon fibre industry. Given the photos you have taken. In my opinion and again with the evidence you’ve shown. That’s definitely not carbon fibre. Under magnification heck even with good eye sight you should be able to see the individual strands of fibre/ carbon filaments that make up a tow (block if you prefer). As far as I’m aware lowest k rating you can get is 1k ( 1000 carbon filament per tow) and you will clearly be able to identify its strands of filaments. Flex wise, with carbon fibre it’s technically possible to flex as much as shown in the video, however I can guarantee after a couple of twists like you shown you will hear it begin to crack etc. I could go on and on. However I’m just here to say you sir got lied to. That is definitely not carbon fibre on the chassis

@JohnSmith-zz3mq

10 ай бұрын

Ok can you explain why a carbon fiber fishing pole can bend almost in half fish after fish and not beak or crack especially an ultralight one?

@Jaedyn_S

10 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-zz3mq short answer is how the toes of the carbon fibre is run along the fishing pole, along with how the toes of the reinforcement plies are laid will give some flexibility to carbon fibre. Carbon can bend within tolerance but compared to other materials carbon fibre is a more rigid material and flexes less. Making it more suitable for larger fish.

All upgrades still lacking

I guess youve never seen carbon fiber in person. Who said its supposed to be hard?! Carbon fiber flexes buddy

@ixclusiverc

8 ай бұрын

I built severa paintball gun,l bikes, automotive parts, and rc parts with quality carbon fiber. I have never seen anything flex like this car. Can you please show me any rc car with carbon fiber with this much flex? From my own experience I thing carbon is stiffer then aluminum but as you can see in this video I can flex the carbon 3x great then the aluminum chassis. I would love to see any products with a premium price that has flexible carbon fiber. What should I look up?

@AGRspeedlab

8 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc whatever excuse you wanna give is not valid for dissing an amazing rc car. For example… find a perfectly sturdy carbon fiber hood (automotive) ill wait…

@ixclusiverc

8 ай бұрын

@@AGRspeedlab i didn't give you an excuse. You said I've never seen carbon fiber and I responded with things I worked with. So I asked you specifically WHAT RC CAR USES THIS TYPE OF CARBON FABER? Now you avoid the question to tell me a clone of an actual race RC is a great car at around the same price? At $200 its a good deal at $300 consumers are being ripped off. Esc is preprogrammed for beginners drivers... maybe thats why you like it!

It’s ok to me LC racing emb-t way better vehicle

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Facts 💯

Rlaarlo will be dead by a year or less due their TERRIBLE service.

hello. X12 is worse than WL 124017. I'm disappointed with the X12. And as you tested, this car doesn't appear to be carbon fiber. Rlaarlo is a scammer. But since I bought the X12, I have to use it. Steering is good thanks to the sway bar. However, the speed is much slower than 124017. And X12 has a lot of problems with the screws at the bottom. There are a few loose, loose pieces that don't fit tightly. X12's original motor & ESC generate a lot of heat. Motor & ESC to upgrade X12 Can I get a recommendation from you? ^_^

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

Check out my rlaarlo redemption video. 19t is better suited for that motor. If your running 3s then I would use the 17t pinion. The Wl that I'm showing flex in this video has the rlaarlo slipper and motor mount. That one has a 2850 lc truggy motor 4500kv 17t pinion. That 8s a great set up. Just look for a surpass 2845 around the same kv and you will be very happy with its acceleration and speed. Esc hobbywing 10bl30 should do but if you running in dirt I would go HW 10bl60.

@atvlifefam2424

9 ай бұрын

Where did you get a 19t 0.7 mod pinion gear

what a joke 😞- Fake Carbon dont surprise me at all

My sun broke his 7th time out i don’t like this brand at all

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I hope to see more comments like this ☝so WE can send a message to Rlaarlo. Customers should not be paying for youtubers speed run cash giveaways. AM-X12 NEW PRICE IS $280. This needs to stop!!! @rlaarlo

It's not a WLToys

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

What factory does it come from? Mjx and eachine ec30 are Haiboxing. I buy direct all time if you know where its made let us know.

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

@@ixclusiverc Your Mama's house! Lol na jk to be honest Rlaarlo sucks.. Terrible business practices

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

@@philthyco1 🤣🤣🤣 ill give you that one👍🙌

Thanks for showing me that you know nothing.

@ixclusiverc

11 ай бұрын

I know a lot more about this car then I did then. Would you like to share what you think I don't know. I highly doubt ill be impressed with your response!

good call dude. i think half is, people want to keep getting that free stuff. the other half dont want to admit theyd been suckered.

@ixclusiverc

2 ай бұрын

You are 100% right about that. I pay for everything I have so an honest review is necessary. Do I get things wrong sometimes.... absolutely, but when a company directly lies about its product to overcharge customers something has to be said.

@greenstx

2 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc we all appreciate your honesty. Thanks dude

Got mine off Amazon for $159. So far it seems like a good deal. Everything else at that price point doesn’t even come close.

@ixclusiverc

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it goes on sale from time to time for $160 on Amazon. That was also the original release price and that why all the amazing reviews (value per cost). Then when everyone gave it hope they doubled the price to $300. I made this video to call them out on why they think they can rip off new rc enthusiasts. If you haven't yet I highly recommend changing the esc. It has a throttle delay designed for a beginner driver. Throw in a hobbywing or any other cheap esc and you will like the car even more then you do now. Instant torque and very controllable throttle range. I would also say the slipper clutch isn't set from factory and needs to be backed off a little. Definitely a good deal and glad you got one at that price!!!👍

@Bloodshot_vsm

2 ай бұрын

@@ixclusiverc I’ll give your tweaks a try. It’s definitely not worth $300. I probably wouldn’t have paid the regular price of $200 either. I’m not doing anything crazy with mine. I just wanted something fast to drive on the pavement with my daughter.

Worth the $150 I gave for mine.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I agree with that price 👍 Just not $300 it is today 👎

Why anyone would buy 1 of these when you can get a LC for less money is beyond me.

@ixclusiverc

10 ай бұрын

A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🎯☝ Exactly why I made this video.

That's not carbon fiber, I suspect it's chinesium.

@ixclusiverc

Жыл бұрын

I made a follow up vid pulling apart each layer then showing I can snap the thickest piece in half with my fingers. It might be carbon but extremely low quality.

@martins2657

Жыл бұрын

Yes, standard quality of China copy of anything.

The chassis is not carbon fiber. Rlaarlo is dishonest.