**** IT'S BEYOND THE GRID PODCAST NOT F1 NATION! WHAT A NUMPTY: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWFnsNKpZrKuaLg.htmlsi=i0cJ8CjdPrYfyky6

@LeonSchaap-xz7cc

27 күн бұрын

It,s not about Martin brundle,i like to look to your program,but only i got a little bit of grazy,of the Holy talking about,SIR louise Hamilton..come Cameron let,s Talk about everyone from the f1 💯😉

Understand your sentiment for Lewis, though it's difficult to argue against Max. The sheer hollistic commitment to racing is something we've very rarely seen in F1 history.

The only choice, as team principal, must be Verstappen. He has time on his side……and I also believe he is the better driver. He’s polished his racing style and there’s no one better at this moment.

Taking Max. No contest.

@victoralexander848

27 күн бұрын

@wesVwX Taking Lewis if Max was the 40 year old ..No contest

@Mrjs265

6 күн бұрын

@@victoralexander848 well.max is nowhere near 40 …so

Max all day

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

And max fans say that Sky is Brit biased 😄

@weignerleigner3037

27 күн бұрын

@@alimantado373it is. Martin brundle is a race driver and has some integrity and doesn’t have to lie and pretend

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

@@weignerleigner3037 But he works for Sky and is contrary to what you claim.

@joshd171294

27 күн бұрын

Right now probably but Hamilton’s prime has become massively downplayed over time. Max is probably the best driver in sequences of fast corners but Hamilton was the best trail braker I’ve ever seen. Not old enough to have watched Jim Clarke etc admittedly

I take max Verstappen,Cameron you forgot Nigel Mansell,above 40

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

When he returned from retirement and went to Ferrari? What a disaster that was.

F1 in the 50's, 60's and 70's More than 10 deadly casualtys each decade. The gladiators on 4 wheels. But I prefer the safety nowadays.

Soft people dislike Max because he speaks his honest truth and doesn’t care if that isn’t the popular/common opinion. most people are scared to do that themselves, they prefer Lewis’s carefully tailored PR speak because it lacks sharp edges and tows the company line/popular opinion because there is no chance of offence or argument. Lewis talent is without question, people who deny his immense ability are insane. People who dislike Hamilton mostly dislike his for his overly managed speech and corporate aligned opinions.

2014 Lewis against Max same machinery I'll pick Max anyways 😅

@Voldnarok

27 күн бұрын

That's a no brainer Max is much better. I know its hard if you like any other driver but Max level is over the roof can't be compared

@spilot1016

22 күн бұрын

Doh... Lewis has never been on the same level

@terencevangaalen4127

21 күн бұрын

@@spilot1016 He had his moments. Like Turkey in the rain etc. But Max always delivers now.

It's not controversial. In 2021 Verstappen outclassed Hamilton very plainly. Mercedes had the quicker car in the majority of the races and Hamilton needed an exploding tire for Verstappen in Baku, Silverrstone and Hungary to even be in contention. People who claim Hamilton was better that season are incredibly blinded by bias. There is no valid argument there. Verstappen always finished 1st or 2nd in every race in many occasion outperforming the car. Hamilton had mistakes like Baku, Hungary, Turkey, Russia, Silverstone, Austria and a very poor weekend in Monaco. I have never met a Hamilton fan that disagreed and had anything other than useless rhetoric like "bUt aBu DhAbI" as if nothing else happened that season.

@kylereed3357

27 күн бұрын

Mercedes didn’t have the quicker car for the majority of races though did they 😂

@the1gladiator2

27 күн бұрын

@@kylereed3357 They very definitely did. and any objective analysis will confirm this. It is beyond doubt and you using emojis like an idiot is not going to change that.

@kylereed3357

27 күн бұрын

@@the1gladiator2 Send me the link for that analysis where it definitively shows merc having the better car all season….

@DenUitvreter

25 күн бұрын

@@kylereed3357 If Bottas, barely outshining Zhou, gets as much poles as Hamilton going into the last race, it was not the Mercedes driver that made the difference.

@__The-Official-Real-Obama__

23 күн бұрын

@@kylereed3357 I would say for half a season or there about, from Hungary onwards Mercedes were by far the quickest, not to mention the illegal rear wing at Brazil.

Max... I want a driver, not a celebrity.

@ianshaw9829

28 күн бұрын

That's there main difference and I think that's why the fan bases are so divided

@mk-ki3jc

28 күн бұрын

They used to be both. Every other sport has maintained the balance ie. LeBron, Messi, Ohtani, etc.

@brainspin7518

28 күн бұрын

I agree, BUT, only by a hair do I choose him over Hamilton (because he still has his prime years ahead of him). But as for your "driver/celebrity" statement... Why not both. A "GOOD" driver can just drive...But a "GREAT" driver can multi-task & handle both pressure of the team, track, car, press/media exposure, & fans! They're not kids, they're men in a professional sport. you have to be able to manage the track stuff & the celebrity/spotlight that goes along with the on track success. 🙄What a nonsense statement.

@marksutherlandjr.2121

27 күн бұрын

I used to rip n roar on Lewis, not want to see him win. In his absence now though. I've realized my error. We need a LH to keep Max honest. Who among us wouldn't rather see Lewis in a car that could compete with the Bulls?

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

Senna, Hunt, Stewart.... none of them were celebrities I guess? None of their off track shenanigans were ever in the press 🙄

I just watched Grand Prix F1 - The Killer Years. It tells how Jackie Stewart was instrumental in changing the rules on safety, the years it took to do it. It shows a driver being burned to death whilst people watch and some at great risk uselessly try to save him. Safety now is something those drivers couldn't dream of.

Max is as pure a driver as it gets

Respect to Martin Bundle!!! Him and Murray's commentary was the best too!!!

Martin Brunle for the win.

Brundle is gold

With all respect to Lewis as all time great, but that Max fella is something I have never seen before in F1, that is why he is the one being compared to Senna & Schumacher.

As good as Sir Lewis is. I can't be bothered with* all of his off-track BS and shenanigans, him shoving his political views on people who just want to watch some racing, his diva-ism, CultLH etc. Here you have Max FAST AF a pure racer, fully locked in week in and week out no bs no nothing, so I can fully understand where you're coming from Martin.

@DavidJohnson-dc8lu

28 күн бұрын

I am a Lewis fan, and at the end of the day we can just thank God that LGBT flag is off his helmet and may it never return.

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

@@DavidJohnson-dc8lu Why are you people worried about his personal goals. If you dont like it ignore it. and watch the damn racing!

@dpjohnjones432

27 күн бұрын

Bro you took the words out of my mouth!!! This right here this! Is the exact thing that separates the two. Max's singular focus makes him the most dangerous man in the sport. Ask any athlete. You cant compete with laser focus. Ask Michael Jordan ask Kobe may he rest in peace. And they will tell you that you have to be obsessed with the sport to be the best.

@omargraham8591

27 күн бұрын

There is someone for everyone. I dont hate Max’s singular focus, but i dont hate people having interests outside their job. I think when ppl say this they hate what those off track activities are or the optics of who is doing it. Do you also dislike Seb?

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

@@omargraham8591 Exactly! Plus Lewis gave voice to other drivers enabling someone like Seb to put his personal voice across, all the drivers (minus El Plan) say this.

Absolutely great episode of beyond the grid w Martin. Loved it. Love him.

@CameronF1.

28 күн бұрын

Twas brilliant weren't it 😃🙏🏾🍻

There is a rectification needed...: The interview was NOT on "F1 Nation podcast", it was on "F1 Beyond The Grid Podcast".👴🧐😉

@CameronF1.

28 күн бұрын

Omg! 😭

@jfv65

22 күн бұрын

Thnx, i found it.

If I had to choose, I'd find out which one hangs out late with the mechanics and engineers, who spends more time studying data/sims, which one is more attentive at debriefs, their fitness regimen,who has fewer outside distractions?.Both have shown they have the talent. At the level of these two, it's the uncompromised commitment, drive and willingness to listen, learn & adapt that would be the criteria I'd look for

@hiufgterde

21 күн бұрын

yeah teams simply look at the stopwatch....which is more attentive at debriefs? Who has fewer outside destractions? Lol, nobody cares as long as you perform on track

Have watched F1 for many years. Lewis is great. Max is now great. You have to have that perfect car under you. They both have shared that experience.

Brundle is right!!!!

Brundle, Palmer, Chandhok, Coulthard, I love their comments and the information in their contributions to F1

F1 Drivers' Art is KINETIC. As Artists, The Best are Compelled so to Do. They seek Perfection! Perfect Apex, Perfect Braking, etc. I've been spectating and attending F1 since the Late 1950s.

@mynewsis4u2

27 күн бұрын

Respect! Must be nice to have seen the old time heroes until nowadays. Do you have some favorites (cars, teams, drivers)?

@guyskeer5411

27 күн бұрын

@@mynewsis4u2 (Now SIR) Stirling Moss was SUCH a Gentleman - I met Him and Rode in the Mini being Introduced to the American Market at Marlboro Raceway. I was quite Young - Rode in the Back, while He regaled My Old man. Never Met Mario Andretti, but was within Feet of Him at Long Beach Gran Prix one Year. Ate in a Favorite restaurant of His when He was in Ontario Raceway Years - DiCenso's. For Cars, Loti (Lotuses?) Owned a 1966 Elan for a While, so Loved Lotus. Ferrari forever. BRM. Family made the Pilgrimage from Virginia every Year to Watkins Glen for the F1.

@luisdelagarza3350

22 күн бұрын

I see the drivers like drawing and painting a work of art using the car as a brush, tracing lines through the circuit

Of course he would choose Max... Max is a machine, cold, technician, and with the maturity he has now he is definitely the best. I may even say that Alonso is in better form than Hamilton, Alonso is more aggressive, feisty, calculist.... Hamilton is so focused that the car is crap that he just forgot to race hard... Means that if Hamilton does not have the best car he also only on driving capabilities he cannot overcome the machine... I think that Max would be capable because Max just wants to be the best with whatever he has, Hamilton just says I cannot do more with this car

@user-ux3jk8cd6z

28 күн бұрын

@WiCkEd_HeAd Sooo him putting that S..t box 3rd in the WCC and push Perez to the limit last season is Lewis forgot to race.. ? Mind you as bad as the Ferrari SP23 was it still was a better car than the W14 as well as the Aston Martin and McLaren and yet Lewis still put that Debotchery of a car on the podium and almost 2nd in the WCC.

@elsbells4841

27 күн бұрын

Last race out Lewis was racing and racing hard

Your titles and thumbnails are so consistent now, that I think we have it to the point that most don't even need to look to see if it's your video anymore I guess having posted 200 videos in 5 months, you have activated autorecognition settings

@CameronF1.

28 күн бұрын

I'm hoping that's a good thing? Gotta differentiate from the crowd.... Or at least try to, eh

@b29ak2007

28 күн бұрын

@CameronF1. that is a great thing now, you are definitely standing out When you started with the constant content at rhe beginning of the year, with the over the top headings and thumbnails, it definitely was irritating, mainly cause it seemed like clickbait for the sake of clickbait especially early on but now it's default, so it's fine It's like Ferrari and that Mission Winnow green. It seemed so absurd, but then everyone got over it Now let's watch the last 30 minutes if your video

@user-ds9ky7ov8s

27 күн бұрын

Then why are you here ? Stop complaining and go somewhere else. Why are you here ?

@b29ak2007

27 күн бұрын

@@user-ds9ky7ov8s you are an idiot who didn't know what comments are for. That was a compliment learn to read

And remember Hamilton is Brundle's biggest mistake ever, 2004/2005 when Whitmarsh tried drop Lewis from McLaen's books, Anthony Hamilton went to Brundle for help and asked him to be Lewis's manager. Brundle said NO. Imagine refusing one of F1 most successful racers when he was given to you free on a plate? I do not care what anyone says, he is living to regret all that success, power and financial gains. Brundle also tried to be Lewis's manager after he split with his father, and then Lewis didn't take up the offer. It is why Brundle will pick a driver over Lewis at all times, he would put Alonso over Lewis too. It is where Alonso is pound for pound the best racer on the grid comes from, Brundle. At the moment who is Max racing, no one, he isn't racing his team mate or an opposing driving from a different team, which Lewis bar 2020 has always done. Max is just battling clear air, this makes him a good driver not a good racer. People say Max beats Perez who is in the same car, give Max a better team mate, put Sainz in the car, put Alonso in the car and let's get the show on the road, and see how good he really is when his cage gets rattle. Lewis is a good racer, Max is a good driver. Max would make a great long haul lorry driver too if he didn't have a famous father to open the right doors for him, even when he was never ready for F1 at 17 years old. The system thought Lewis would fry up and retire, not turn up at Ferrari and get a better car back in his hands, we are going to see the real Max when Lewis gets back in a competitive car. The one who legs cramped up at the end of the season, and could barely get out the car, that is who!

@gregmarcus3064

27 күн бұрын

@@user-qy2bp4me8i You are the clown. Max races air. Let;s see a better team mate. I want to see Carlos Sainz in there. Get a time machine so we can see Schumi, Senna battle Lewis. Nothing would delight Lewis more that the opportunity to race those guys. Not his generation so you are delusional. I bet you add orange food coloring to your cereal. lol.

I like Martin Brundle's modest and measured, but spot on commentary during the races.

If your talking NOW, I would take MV because he has more longevity to go and he breathes for go where Hamilton has already been. Hamilton at MV age early 20s I'm taking Hamilton because his first seat in McClaren he raced and beat the then current world champ Alonso. He also has proven that No matter where he stands in the championship, he will come back and fight for it to win. That mentality only comes from the Best F1 determined drivers.

Max is close to his peak while Lewis is past his peak. If I were a team boss I would choose Max as my number 1. Lewis is still phenomenal though, I would say the difference now is consistency. If both were at their peak, I would choose Lewis. He’s a better ambassador for his team and he is a team builder. Looking forward to Lewis winning at Ferrari.

@baclava69

28 күн бұрын

I can't imagine a worse ambassador than ham to be honest. He is dishonest, supports horrible campaigns and for all intents and purposes seems to be a race baiter.

@radeoradeo5743

27 күн бұрын

Team builder? What team did he build? In what team he arrived before success and went through trenches with the team before winning? In McLaren he was a golden boy and got a championship winning car immediately. Remember how he posted Button’s setups in Twitter? In Mercedes he came to a team already built by Michael and Nico with all key personnel already assembled,was convinced by NIKI LAUDA and got a race winning car in his first season with Merc. Next year he is in a spaceship) Now when things became worse,he’s out. The guy who told dozens of times that he will retire as a Mercedes driver) I’m not a hater and glad he will go to Ferrari. But mate,Lewis is anything but a team builder)

@tinkertable1977

27 күн бұрын

@@radeoradeo5743 Look at how McLaren and Mercedes galvanised around him. Lewis would have stayed at Mercedes but they didn’t offer him what he felt he deserved after 15 years of loyalty. Yes he was in a prime position to start well with McLaren but he made the most of his opportunity alongside Fernando. Look how teammates have crumpled next to Max in a similar situation. I think you are reaching too far to make your argument.

@radeoradeo5743

27 күн бұрын

@@tinkertable1977 in McLaren he had 2nd best car from end of 2009 to 2012 and no options to go to RB. In Mercedes he had the most dominant car on the grid and clearly understood that nobody had a chance to close the gap thanks to engine development freezing and had the most comfortable teammate you can imagine in Bottas. It’s not about loyalty,just a common sense. Shumi raced for 4 years in Ferrari and Max 5 years in RB before wining their titles. Both had tons of offers from other teams,but both decided to stay and went through trenches prior to eventual success. Lando will be in the same category if he will win in McLaren. Loyalty is a very rare thing in F1. I don’t think anybody should be ashamed for being disloyal,cause if there is an opportunity it’s kinda stupid not to take it.

@radeoradeo5743

27 күн бұрын

@@tinkertable1977 didn’t offer him what he felt he deserved? He won 7 titles with Mercedes cars. Nobody’s owe him anything.

Great Cameron content

If choosing between the two came down to focus I would have to choose Verstappen. As a Hamilton fan I cannot ignore the laser like focus and dedication to the sport that Verstappen has at the moment. This man gives everything he can both on and off the track. He is ALWAYS driving. Whether it be a simulator or a real car he is always behind the wheel getting better and better. Ask any elite athlete and they will tell you-you have to be obsessed to be the best. All of the greats have this in common. Lewis has an immense natural talent, but talent is not enough when you are competing against someone hungrier than you. If SLH has a decent car he can win another championship. But his focus both on and off the track will have to reflect it. I cant remember who it was, but I remember when they said Lewis was distracted back when he was with Nicole. He made a decision back then it seems, and I would like to think his craft reflected it those many years ago. I can not account for every minute of SLH's day, but if we went by appearances alone one would have to ascertain Max is giving it everything. It will be interesting to see how things unfold.

22:29 Exactly 👀🤔🤯💥🤐 It used to take a very special person to drive in formula 1. It’s not like that anymore. This youngsters have no idea how lucky they are to drive in this era. Half of the grid wouldn’t exist. I wrote that 25:03 moments before you said it. It’s a real racers mentality.

It was definitely a “God Tier” interview with Martin. He’s definitely one of the old school, last of a generation almost. His accident I knew about, I’ve seen it, he’s a lucky man, I have no idea how he was/is still able to drive. 10:46 Yeah Adrian 1st, typical Martin, I love him and have been missing him this year and now we know why. 12:07 and Max Verstappen lol. Fair play I reckon. I can’t disagree with that, but right now I’d do the same thing. Lewis is getting on, I still support LH, I want him to win 8th Title in a Scuderia. He’s gonna have to go some though to beat all the younger drivers I’ve listed similar to Zak with his comments and as we saw in your poll. 15:38 Right now I’m taking Oscar and Adrian, it’s a look to the future.

Definitly SLH...no 40 years old driver in F1 has ever looked mentally and physically like SLH before either.

Bundle is correct.

You're spot on about Martin Brundle. He is an unsung great of F1 drivers. It was a fabulous podcast. I'm loving your unbiased opinion. One of your best posts in my mind. Keep up the good work.

I’m not sure if I subscribe to the age debate-especially when the data for Lewis and Alonso (the two oldest drivers on the grid) show that they are operating at a level that is as high as 90% of the grid (in terms of reaction times). And data also show that reaction times significantly drop off after the age of 50, so I think they have a bit more time 😉 If Alonso or Lewis have a car that is quick enough to fight for the wins-they will make the difference.

Max combined the pure race heart of Senna with the teambuilding detail/communication of Schumi, virtue of his dad experiencing that first hand as his teammate. He could beat Michael in a kart, but never got close in the F1 car. We know why, Jos learned the lesson for Max. The result is a goat tier driver.

You posted a video a few days ago talking about why people arent watching and sadly this is it . . . Nothing grips the imagination quite like death. Theres always been eras of dominance but back then life was on the line. When a driver drove on the limit he wrestled with death itself.

Horner- f1's change since your day Brundle- you never made it to f1 did ya? 😂😂😂😂😂

@user-ds9ky7ov8s

28 күн бұрын

Brundle was teammate to Schumacher and beat him at times. Finished 6th in 1992 world championship. He wasn't one noted as the best but show respect.

@mk-ki3jc

28 күн бұрын

I misquoted. Horner- its a shame you're too old to have driven here Brundle- its a shame you wasn't fast enough to make it into formula 1

@mk-ki3jc

27 күн бұрын

@@user-ds9ky7ov8s take Brundles metaphorical cock out of your mouth, hop off your high horse, and read what I wrote. I am a brundle fan

We could be about to enter one of the most epic periods in F1 history in terms of the battle at the front. The cars are converging in performance, thanks to the resurgence of both Mclaren and Ferrari. And the current grid may be the most talented in the history of the sport; the only reason why it hasn't been so interesting the last couple of years is because Red Bull hit the ground running with the new rules, while the others lost their way. But now that Zak Brown and Fred have sorted the structures of their organisations, we could be about to see the talents of both Leclerc and Norris blossom the same way Red Bull's car has allowed Max's talent to shine. My prediction is that the true extent of Leclerc and Norris' talents with serious cars underneath them will become truly apparent and we will see regular Max vs Leclerc vs Norris battles at the front, with Piastri and Sainz snapping at their heels. Added to that, if Mercedes can get their act together, Lewis and George will be in the mix as well. Another prediction; Leclerc gets his first pole and win of the season this weekend in Imola and kick-starts his championship campaign.

What he said is true that’s how my mind set was racing street bikes. But you still feel for the person and the family

I think recency also has a lot to do with people’s opinions of drivers. Max’s dominance and achievements seem unequalled today through his overwhelming dominance. But living through the Schumacher and Hamilton, Vettel eras there are differences in F1 to take into account. Reliability is a huge factor in Max’s dominance. So are the increased number of races a season. The improvement in prediction tools, even different rules make it very difficult to directly compare champions. The last time the cars of winning drivers were roughly equal in the same era was 2021. For me, Hamilton won that direct battle. Since then, Max has improved and Lewis has probably declined. Let’s see if the old lion has one last roar at Ferrari.

@Stantube1000

24 күн бұрын

Reliability is a huge factor in Max’s dominance. So true! If only red bull cars were as reliable as Michaels Ferrari and Lewis Mercedes, Max would've won even more races and collected even more impressive stats. But Newey was also known for designing cars that can be quite fragile.

@tinkertable1977

23 күн бұрын

@@Stantube1000 🤣🤣🤣

You have to bear in mind that Brundle was speaking with as a team principal there. Ok with Newey but Hamilton is for max two to three years whereas Verstappen is the better long term option unless he doesn't get bored from winning all the time and chucks it all in and moves on to something else. On the drivers, I remember one time TV cut to Ross Brawn on the radio to Schumacher wanting a specific time for a number of laps, say like he wanted 1.15.3 seconds per lap. He went on to nail that time to the tenth - lap after lap for 8 to 10 laps before he pitted.

@dpjohnjones432

27 күн бұрын

Exactly.

New to your channel, watched your interview with windser post imola, also glad you changed your tune on Oscar, I think 2026 regs will suit Oscar and he will wipe the floor with lando, calling it now

I like Brundle, he's quite knowledgeable and far from a dinosaur , very much a bridge from the past to the future......shame though he never actually won anythig .-).

@Andre_The_Millennial

28 күн бұрын

What do you mean never won anything? He's a Le Mans winner and Sportscar Champion.

@alimantado373

27 күн бұрын

@antonsax Anybody who gets a chance in F1 is a winner in my eyes, even the support staff. Id travel the World with F1 circus and be a cleaner. 😄

Why all the debate about Lewis at 39. If he has a Newey designed Ferrari that is all any top level driver needs: the best car. The driver as you said affects the outcome far less than the car. When a top driver gets the best car and wins the championship, by default they get called the best driver. That is all we need to understand about F1 racing. The best car wins and creates the best driver.

@reiissd370

27 күн бұрын

Totally agree. Also he's not even the most impressive red bull champion. Vettel won 4 on the trot also and you could argue that 2 of them were down to the wire, Verstappen has only had 1 title come down to that and unfortunately it's one that was won through rule breaking (not his fault but still). People forget LH was extending the gap on older tires before the Latiffi incident

@weignerleigner3037

27 күн бұрын

@@reiissd370didn’t change the fact that all year long max outperformed lewis. Lewis struggle to even get 2nd in some races. Max finished 1st or second every race he had a working car. Out qualified lewis towards the end when the Mercedes was a rocket ship again. Lewis cheated the entire Bahrain gp, got a free 25 point push in britain after shadowrealming max, had 3 races where he got free points basically and failed to even capitalize on one of them. Lewis got praised in Brazil even tho any driver with a car that much quicker could do that, max got no praise for Russia where he went from last to 2nd in the most difficult race of the year. Lewis meanwhile got out qualified by russell in a williams twice. Even if massi literally shot out lewis tyres on the final lap it’s pretty obvious max is the better driver when looking at the season as a whole. But British media and Lewis fans will never admit that.

@reiissd370

27 күн бұрын

@@weignerleigner3037 You raise some very valid points. Before I get your comment I re read the original comment and whilst what was said is mostly true there is a difference for the most elite drivers. Even in not the most seasoned cars they'll have the "je ne sais quoi" and produce results most others wouldn't be able to. As for the the replied comment Verstappen was elite and his consistency was mega. To downplay either in that championship run would be to discredit how great they both were and how far they pushed each other literally but also mentally. What I was referring to was the dominance we're witnessing now we literally witnessed just over a decade ago. Both Vettel and Verstappen are vastly better than their teammates, both very experienced F1 drivers and showed their greatness before ever entering the Redbull F1 cockpit

@henrimoll9621

27 күн бұрын

​@@weignerleigner3037 Facts right on!

@weignerleigner3037

27 күн бұрын

@@reiissd370 I’m not trying to downplay Hamilton, I’m just pointing out a lot of the narrative around 21 is entirely pumping up Hamilton as the deserved champion when he wasn’t. He got exposed that year, and idk if that’s from aging out or he really just isn’t as good as verstappen, but I’m really tired of people on the internet claiming Hamilton got robbed or that max didn’t really earn the title which is what you kind of insinuated. Max that season drove better than anyone else I’ve ever seen in a season and only had to fight to the final race because of mistakes caused by Mercedes drivers. And the reason people don’t understand that is because f1 media will never say anything that doesn’t hype up Hamilton. They’ll even trash russell to big up Hamilton I’m guessing because Hamilton is black and we know rich elite people love bigging up black athletes

Just watched it and come back to yours. Never knew about the seriousness of Brundle's ankle injury, 'It [his foot] was hanging on by the skin' .

@CameronF1.

27 күн бұрын

It's an incredible story sir. Belongs in a film. That he came back is bonkers. What a ledge.

Put both drivers Max and lewis on the same team..it will be fireworks..I will always give the edge to lewis ...his composure during adverse situations gives him that edge....it where Max is lacking

@pimjcb9964

28 күн бұрын

Nonsense. Lewis is clearly in decline, while Max is at his peak who is still getting better while only being 26. You really need to stop hanging on to a older driver in decline thinking he is still the best. Absolutely nonsense.

@baclava69

28 күн бұрын

Ham has nothing on max for race craft, ham is a much better professional foul driver, but that's because he races dirty.

How lovely everyone is free to their own opinions

You can literally win the championship and toto regrets hiring you. Yeah f toto...

I must be old - I used to tune in to F1 to watch Martin Brundle race (well almost race)

@kenlyon8285

28 күн бұрын

Martin won me over when he flipped and slid a hundred meters on his air box in the gravel in Australia, jogged back to the pits and jumped in the backup car. He can say whatever he wants

@ianmason3040

28 күн бұрын

@@kenlyon8285 Yes I remember it well - Logan Sargeant is still looking for his spare car :)

Both in their prime you could make a case for both (newer fans wouldn’t remember Hamilton’s absolute peak). But in general a lot of Brundles takes these days seem to be based on who he’s rather go for a pint with

I remember growing up in the 80's, without malice, back then (granted he was unlucky with injuries and limited with teams available) Brundle was a solid tier two level driver. Perhaps more than anything he was unfortunate to have been in F1 at the time of Piquet, Prost, Senna and from the British point of view Mansell mania. He took a break from F1 for a few years, and when he came back, he ran face first into the tail end of the Prost, Mansell and Senna era and the start of the rise of Schumacher and Häkkinen et al. However, when the history of F1 is written, he'll retain his own legacy, as it cannot be underestimated, his impact via punditry following the sad loss of James Hunt, and how Brundle, along with Murray Walker defined the modern F1 TV format and commentary.

@APLFilms1

27 күн бұрын

legacy of 0 wins.

Lewis was at his peak in 2017 around 34years old. On a personal level my physical peak was 40/42 so I dunno. 37:17 I agree with Alan better race craft now, look at Alonso. Maybe not quite as fast as once was though. 🧐👀🤔⚡️🤫✨🤐💫🤯💥⁉️

@DavidJohnson-dc8lu

27 күн бұрын

How was Lewis not good last season, nearly came in 2nd in a car that was not as good as Ferrari! This season he has just be experimenting with a retarded car. The fact he asked for more power at Miami means he can go a lot faster.

@Stantube1000

24 күн бұрын

yeah, Lewis peak was 2016. Sadly, even peak Lewis wasnt capable of destroying peak Nico Rosbeg.

Max over Lewis any day.

F1 does seem a but sanitized these days doesn't it? I'd agree with that.

Right now I would pick Max but when Lewis was at Max age I would pick Lewis Only time will tell if Max will be competitive at 40 years old as Lewis

@rickeyharris178

28 күн бұрын

This is the problem with this sport. The sport is kind of a joke because if you put Lewis Hamilton in the Red Bull right now, I am sorry he will be bursting, but maybe he won’t. The problem is when you have a car that’s 10 mph faster than every other car You can’t judge Fair… you do know that Checo Perez would be the two world champion, If max wasn’t around. What does that say about the sport?

@advanceddarkness3

28 күн бұрын

@@rickeyharris178 So why is Max's gap so large against EVERYONE else, if its just the car? Max will pass Lewis in WC by the time he is 31. Lewis is a great driver, but his era is over.

@NovaDaGoat

28 күн бұрын

@@advanceddarkness3I highly doubt that and that depends on how long he has a great car

@rickeyharris178

28 күн бұрын

What you just said is absolutely silly. Again if you put an excellent driver in the car, that’s what’s going to happen. If you put Charles LeClair or Lewis Hamilton in the Red Bull right now, the same thing would happen. Czecho Perez is a top 10 driver, I would not put him in the top five.Check Perez almost lost to a guy last year who had the fourth fastest car on the grid. I’m speaking about Louis Hamilton. You’re being ridiculous. This is not football! You don’t need to be young to be a good driver. But more importantly, you’re being kind of obtuse. You’ve gotta be smarter than that.

@Timocoh

28 күн бұрын

What did Lewis win when he was 26? Max is only 26 now. His prime is yet to come (28-32). What are you talking about?

We all know what happened that year if you don’t, you don’t know F1. I have been watching F1 since Dijon 1979. It’s Simple - big crash at Silverstone. Fia knew more big crashes to happen so Verstappen was given the championship I like both drivers, they are not Senna’s or Villenueve’s at all, but it would have been a catastrophic season If the Fia let both of them play bumper cars the rest of the season.

Was Nigel Mansell not 40 when he won the championship in 1992? I thought he had just turned… Although we had Damon and to an extent Coultard, us Brits were very unlucky in losing two potential world champions for the 1990’s in Martin and Johnny. Let’s not forget that Johnny Herbert was being talked about as the next future F1 great until his awful crash at Brands Hatch which messed up his feet as well. That circuit is only a few miles from where I live and my dad brought home a little piece of the debris from that crash. Not sure what happened to it. I did watch both win Le Mans as a teenager though… 1990 and 1991. Very different times. Max would have killed himself if racing in that era. He would have been just like Stefan Bellof - takes too many risks.

@CameronF1.

27 күн бұрын

Nigel 38/39 iirc.

All the great drivers of their era stood out in one way or another. It was as if they were of a rare breed. Within the "breed" of British journalists MB also seems of a rare breed. His answers are purely based on the sport F1, not a hint of British bias there. Very rare. Very refreshing.👴👌👏

You need to be challenged within your own team 1st, Redbull should bring in a worthy challenger..

@GPFMotorsportNews

27 күн бұрын

Like Toto did with Valtteri 😀😀😀 Valtteri, this is James....

I loved Brundle from day one, this man has so much knowledge and explains it so well during the races that I switched from the BS commentary on the Dutch broadcaster to Sky F1, mainly because of him. He has been the biggest Max Verstappen fan on the whole British Island and he has never tried to hide it. There are plenty of reasons to take Max over Lewis: 1. Lewis isnt a killer, Max is, thats why Max chooses to dominate while Lewis preferred to party all over the world 2. Max has much more dedication to his sport than Lewis ever had, Lewis has other things he likes, Max only likes racing 3. Max isn't a PR boy like Lewis. Now I know you might say that thats part of selling your brand as Brundle GP, but I rather have someone who wins over people with his work ethic and his honesty like Max, Lewis always pours a PR sauce on everything which is not being real 4. Lewis tries to abuse his platform to spread divisive ideas like BLM, Max doesnt want to try and tell people what to do or to think, he wants to race 5. Max is just better than Lewis, thats why Max was in F1 when he was 17, Max was made to do this by someone who knew what was needed to succeed in F1, learning from Schumi but even more from his own mistakes.

@Stantube1000

24 күн бұрын

Brundle is anthing but Max fan, Stop spreading that nonsense. His anti Max bias was always very obvious, even if he tries to hide it well.

@VinnieDayz

23 күн бұрын

@@Stantube1000 Sure buddy, take more acid why dont you. Brundle is a Max fan from day one, no matter how much nonsense you spread.

Bundle never won a race in his career so who cares what he has to say? Lewis is doing what did not and will never accomplish. Mic drop

Nothing what Martin said is bonkers or chaotic or controversial. As he said getting in the car is voluntary, going to war wasn't. What don't you understand about that

I have a genuine question since I wasn't watching F1 in 2010-2013. Were people rating/choosing Vettel above Schumacher at that time? Since they were on the grid together.

@CameronF1.

27 күн бұрын

Seb was the next one Even looked like Schumi. Can't remember a lot of talk about better than....

@DavidJohnson-dc8lu

27 күн бұрын

Precisely, no one said Vettel was better than Schumacher. In fact when Alonso won the WDC twice, once competing directly with Schumacher, the time he called Schumacher a bad sportsman and also said no win in a Ferrari has any integrity, no one said Alonso was better than Schumacher too.

@sophiemwasela8099

27 күн бұрын

@CameronF1. Okay..interesting. I learn something new everyday.

@sophiemwasela8099

27 күн бұрын

@@user-qy2bp4me8i I see the intelligent replies have started coming in.

@sophiemwasela8099

27 күн бұрын

@@user-qy2bp4me8i you're replying to my comment about learning more about the sport. Why are YOU here?

Why not have the same energy for Alonso ? He is still performing better than 90% of the grid.

I am a relatively new F1 fan, within the last few years. In equal machinery I think i would take Verstappen over Hamilton. I wasnt there for Hamilton's dominance, but in the 2-3 years I have been watching I just don't think Hamilton has the same killer instinct Verstappen has. He may have had it earlier in his career, but I don't know.

Same as brundle at the moment. But it dusn't mather if he took lewis he is also a good option.

Of course he is going to favour max Lewis is older and has fewer years in the sport max is younger and the one who is at top at plus Martin carreer and longitvity hangs on the people like max and red bull for interviews

The 2021 champignonship: in rhe end it was Mercedes strategy to not call Lewis in. Lewis knew that was rhe wrong call. So get over it already. Respect Lewis and Max die takeing the chances giving to them.

Again, drivers come and go, teams endure. Hitching your wagon to a driver is short term project. We appreciate football players for their skill, but wear team colours for life...

The 2021 season of f1 ninety percent of the British pundits wanted Max Verstappen to win the championship.on the other hand all of the Dutch pundits wanted Max to win

Max has no competition. That car is superior

@mostafahassan9700

27 күн бұрын

Sure he is the first driver who has had a dominant car.

46:27 mate! Im a lawyer ok, dont give me this verify stuff. I know i know plausible deniability. But if you ask me and i know who would cuz in a new fan, but id like to think ive become a true fan of the sport not just DTS…but if you ask me the FIA has wanted SLH to lose and fade away since his 2nd or 3rd championship. So if your question is was there malice involved in AD21 you damn right! Idw hear about the show and entertainment and motor racing. In no other sport can the ref or other arbiter just erase a team’s lead like that and say next point wins and here the other team gets the ball first (or whatever other advantage). They KNEW what they were doing they KNEW what the outcome would be. These are not stupid men. I cannot be convinced otherwise.

@CameronF1.

27 күн бұрын

Excuse me sir, have you met my friend Hanlon's Razor?

An Amazing driver can make an average car seem better than it is. An Amazing car can make an average driver a Champion.

@shauryasingh1308

27 күн бұрын

Every fans favourite driver would fit the 1st part of your narrative and the driver they dislike for whatever reason who’s winning would fit the 2nd part of your statement.

Since 2020 I would pick Max any day every day over any other driver... So that's not a surprise for me!

@Stantube1000

24 күн бұрын

Since 2019.

Igiven how driven lewis is by adversity and wanting to do his talking on the track,could it be that he always had a grudge against Toto for believing in Max and that spurred him to win the championships to prove him wrong?

Lewis will never be seen as one of the greats, even though he is and u know why, Cameron…..

Now, please realize mate, just 2 weeks ago you were getting royally pissed at Toto Wolf for saying that the engineer was more important than the driver. Now you are gushing over the fact that Brundle said Newey is more important than Max. I do not like Wolf or mercedes, however, that seems pretty hypocritical to me.

I love max for just racing nothing else. He is not bothered with yapping Brittisch hamilton fans. Im glad f1 is all about racing again and not a fashion show anymore. Hamiltons head got to big for his helmet.

Leverage some objectivity? 🤣🤣

Guys it’s just life, people have favourites: When it was Lewis vs Button, Brundle came across as a good friend of Button. Sometimes biases stick. However on the contrary, Lewis’s Dad consulted Brundle regarding Lewis’s contract. So not all bad. Just human, has favourites, nothing malicious. My mother-in-law doesn’t like me, no idea why lol

@ae5498

28 күн бұрын

I agree!

Northing new there, Brundle never seemed to like Hamilton anyway, or respect him. He only use to interview Hamilton when he lost, or failed a race. Even Jeremy Clarkson noticed this. But yep! I was one that use to look forward to Brundle's knowledgeable input, and use to look forward to his grid walks.

Brundle has never been a big Hamilton fan, so his preference for Max, other than the "age" issue, is unsurprising.

Anyone In their right mind at this point in time would choose max over lewis..

@opinionated_one8692

28 күн бұрын

Exactly, look at their ages.

@waleedalghezewi1953

27 күн бұрын

Exactly

I much prefer Will Buxton

Can you imagine a race in the near future where Lewis got his 8th. Think it would be an emotional world wide event that would embrace the whole world over. F1 would be on everyone's lips.

@baclava69

28 күн бұрын

He has ruined the sport enough, let's hope this doesn't happen. With anyone else at the helm f1 only gets better.

@henrimoll9621

27 күн бұрын

You'd better wake up boy and face reality.

If Adrain is the must, Lewis is the second must for me.

@djcheff

28 күн бұрын

I don’t understand because Mercedes beat Adrian Newey eight times in a row.

@timmypunt3565

27 күн бұрын

Merc designed the best engine Newey designed the best car

I hate to say this, but Brundle is right, Max all the way. Lewis at 21 vs Max at 21, then Lewis.

I understand a content creatir must make content, but brundle picking Max is about as controversial as claiming water is wet. Ages aside, peak Max is many more times more consistent than Lewis was at his peak. Lets not forget Button once said he would be more scared having Max as a teammate than Lewis. Coming from a man who was teammates with Lewis, that says it all chaps. No chaos here.

Ex Hamilton's team mates, double world champion Alonso, Button World Champion and Rosberg World Champion. Name the World Champions that have or are World Champions in the same car with Verstappen? Perhaps just inferior team mates who can't challenge?

@Buho641

28 күн бұрын

That was maybe because LH was not good enough to keep his team mates from winning, while MV doesn't do that.

@pimjcb9964

28 күн бұрын

​@@Buho641Exactly

@GPFMotorsportNews

27 күн бұрын

Are you saying that at least 4 of Lewis' titles are not on merit?

we human are always about the present moment. our myopic range of view and short memories cripple our analytical mind. and most of us here are no different. max 'is' this moment. he is in the best car and has only an average driver teammate as his competition. what great things has max truly done with a car that was not 1 second faster than any other on the grid?! who has max's teammates been and have really put him to the sword - daniel? norris, and now yuki, has exposed the ordinary standard that is daniel. a driver that all these guys, including brundle, kept saying how great he was. who else? lewis has gone up against the best (F1 champion level drivers) and made them look average. he has won championships in cars that have not been the best, including 2021. that's right, 2021! a year where max's aggression (and angry disposition towards lewis) was more than apparent. you are right about one thing - max is single minded. he is a bully. he has no scruples and cares about no one or anything else but himself. and i see you guys here are praising this. but that is for this moment. later will be greater! when both lewis and max begin to fade into history, only the truly outstanding moments will stand out. moments like silverstone 2008; qualifying singapore 2018 (the set time surpassed what the car could theoretically do); qualifying styrian 2020 (max tried to 'dis the man with the handle' but could not keep the car on the track); qualifying canada 2017 (not even the computer could go around the track so fast); someone mentioned turkey 2020; germany 2018; brazil 2021 (despite fia-verstappen-masi not fair ways) (to name just 7). someone here spoke about michael jordan and kobe. the thing about these guys, like lewis, is that they are/were fearless. lewis would be teammates with anyone but max will never agree to a george or leclerc as a teammate. and we forget the records, like most consecutive podium finishes in a F1 debut season against the likes of alonso and raikkonen. but i digress.

First time Max was actually under pressure in this season's red bull, he made a mistake. He could not pull away from either Piastri, or later on, Lando.

The level of dominance from Max Verstappen is unseen, never happened before. Not from Hamilton, not from Schumacher, not from Senna. And for every person who says he's got Perez as the 2nd driver, Lewis had Bottas, Schumacher had Barrichello, Senna had Berger while driving cars at least as good as Max had, even better actually. Only jealousy and hate will stop anyone from respecting and admiring Max Verstappen, a true legend of the sport.

@jacobitosuperstar

28 күн бұрын

for a moment i thought that you were being sarcastic, but you are nothing but a simp.

@chetanpatel362

28 күн бұрын

Hamilton's team mates in equal machines, double world champion Alonso in Hamilton's rookie year. Button World champion another team mate and Rosberg world champion. Who are the team mates to Verstappen, Gasley, Albon, Perez, Ricardo. How many world championships from his team mates in same machine? Verstappen is a very good driver but in total luxury with no team to compete.

@madalinbpopa

28 күн бұрын

​@@chetanpatel362 Hamilton never won a title while having a world champion as a teammate. The W11 is the fastest car in the history of F1, that is a car which was constantly destroying the grid in quali by 0.5-1.0 seconds with both drivers, one of them being Bottas. You just had to put it on the front row and drive it to finish, that's all, cause there was no one close in terms of race pace either. Lewis won 11 races in that car. Like I said, what Max is doing is unseen before. Also, who's fault is it that Rosberg became a champion? 😂

@Po3tfx

28 күн бұрын

It is important to maintain a level of composure and not express excessive joy in light of the impending collapse of the kingdom. Max's recent success should not overshadow the fact that he struggled for years without a competitive car. If he were to lose the advantage of his current rocket, he would likely return to his previous position at the back of the pack.

@Timocoh

28 күн бұрын

@@Po3tfx you forget that Max struggled when he was very young. What do you expect? And did you forget Brazil 2016? Max is only 26 now. He bested Lewis in a lesser car. When he was 23! A bit more appreciation should be in place.

I’ll take Lewis in his prime. Not Lewis now because it’s a business.

@user-ux3jk8cd6z

28 күн бұрын

@BornWarrior1982 and maybe that’s the reason Mercedes wasn’t willing to sign him to the contract he wanted.. Ferrari wanted the brand Lewis has built but we shall see.

Put them in the same car and you will witness total domination by Max over sir Lewis.

Sky need Martin Brundel he's the counter to all the woke dross in the commentary team .