That Dimarzio gives me the feeling up my spine same as the first time I heard Eddie play this stuff… great job! =VH= FOREVER

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Billy!

I always thought that Franky had a Super Distortion in it and the Destroyer had the Mighty Might in it. In this video the Super 70 sounds spot on to the record.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steven. Nope. I think the Franky had that '61 PAF, (before Seymour rewound it for the 2nd album) and the Mighty Mite went into the Destroyer after it became the Shark. At least that's what I think 😉 Thanks for watching!

@underskillednunderpaid

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the destroyer (pre shark) had the super distortion, or super 70

@tednugentlives

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss had a pair of mighty mite 1800s and they were nearly identical to the Dimarzio s.d. measured 13.6 or so.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@tednugentlives Agreed. I've got an 1800, too. And it's nearly identical in tone to the DSD. The 1300 I had, before one of the coils opened up, was, for some reason, just a little more open sounding than the 1800 or DSD - even though it had essentially the same dc resistance. I need to get that one coil rewound / repaired by somebody that will pay attention to detail. That was/is a really great sounding pickup!

@StevenMikel1

2 жыл бұрын

@@underskillednunderpaid The Destroyer(pre shark) had the stock Super 70 in it. The Super Distortion was put in the shark to make up for a loss in tone when Eddie cut the chunk out of it.

God damn, you nailed everything about that opening riffs sound! PERFECT tone from the SD.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And, another vote for the Super D!

Just when I’m sure it’s the Super Distortion then I close my eyes and just listen to your playing, convinced I’m hearing the SD and then open my eyes and it’s the 70! Great job on all of this!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! Yeah, I honestly believe now, that it's the Super 70. I just need to make a minor eq tweak in post to get it perfect (or as close as I'm going to get it).

I liked the Super Distortion the best. None of them matter in this tone quest if you can't play Ed's licks the right way. Great job!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Billy! So far the Super D seems to be the favorite.

I have to say I like them both and your playing is phenomenal as always, Jim, but to me the original pickup sounded better....more presence and clarity. Great video as always!!!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Greg! I tend to agree - the Super 70 is probably the one. I'd just need a minor tweak on the post EQ.

@gsmeeuwsen

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Both sound GREAT though, and you NAIL it, Sir!!!

@phillamoore157

2 жыл бұрын

@@gsmeeuwsen Well said....I agree, Greg. He's got that amp so well dialed in, and acoustic would sound killer through it.

@cliffords2315

6 ай бұрын

My Lead guitarist in 1976 had that exact same Guitar and had Super Distortion PU's. Chords Sustain for ever

The Super Distortion sounds great!

@jegauss

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yeah, I agree on the Super D, but I'm liking the Super 70 for some of it too. It's weird, I still can't decide which one I think he used. So much of the subtle differences between the two could be accounted for by a mic placement change from song to song. It'd only take a half an inch difference.......So, I still can't say 100% which pickup is the right one.

Fantastic vids! Both pickups sound really good, but (to me) the Super Dist has that slight extra “fullness” to it. Thanks for all the detail!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Thanks for watching, and your input - If I was keeping score, I think that the Super D is winning.

@asnark7115

3 ай бұрын

It does have a great tone, just not the VH1 tone to my ears.

I just love these videos they are so in depth, ive just recently came into being a fan of Van halen but Im a nerd about them now

Im not sure Ive ever heard a closer brown sound than this . NICE JOB!!!!

If I have to choose, the Super 70 sounds just perfect in this video! I like them both, but imo the Super 70 is more brilliant and have definitely more definition. The Super Distortion sounds cool, but a bit "muddier" somehow. Anyway, both great sounds and hats down to you once again... you played every take just perfectly! Bravooo! 👏🏻😉🔝🤟🏻😎

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again, Luca! Yes, I tend to agree. I like the Super 70 better. I could probably make a minor EQ adjustment and make it sound just a bit "thicker," but still open, unlike the Dimarzio.

@lucabiolzi1767

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss ...precisely! 🔝👏🏻😉

this is the best thing I have ever seen! You make them both sound great. But honestly I was surprised how distinct they are. The clarity of the Super 70 is definitely on the album and I always heard Eddie wanted the distortion coming from the amp not the pickup.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, P! I agree with the Super 70. I may have it just a hair too bright, but with a minor tweak in "post", it's perfect. To me, there's no doubt that that's what was in the guitar when the album was recorded.

This channel is amazing! Great work here, Sir.! Greetings from Brazil.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Much appreciated!

You play so smooth and with some swagger! Love it !! That Greco is a sharp sounding unit too !! Awesome axe to have!!

@jegauss

7 ай бұрын

Thank you, Brad! Much appreciated!

I hear the Dimarzio Super Distortion in this video as if it is just a different take that Eddie actually played at Sunset Sound. The original pickup also sounds fantastic. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I like both pickups and you can definitely "get there" with either one...

That top is gorgeous! And the sound .... wow!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

I found it about 10 years ago on Ebay. I've known about them for years - those 70s Greco guitars are amazing. Better than the Gibsons of that era. Same factory as the Ibanez guitars (Destroyer, Rocket Roll, etc...)

Both sound amazing Jim. Please keep up the amazing work and thank you for the time you put into these. Extremely informative and helpful. I just purchased the Greco and the stock PU is the U-2000 (A5) vs Super 70 (A8).

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Billy! Yep - the "factory" installed pickup in the Greco is the U-2000 - which is a great sounding pickup, too. But, me doing what I'm doing with these videos, I switched it out for a Super 70 way back when I bought the guitar. (That U-2000 sits in a box, and I know right where it is 😉). Thank you for watching!

@billyvarga3738

Жыл бұрын

@@jegauss I am a huge fan of all your VH videos. One thing that would be super helpful is to hear your rig without any processing in post (preamp, eq, compression, etc.) I know a lot of us would be interested to hear the differences. If you are inclined to provide an addendum to the addendum again, I would be most grateful.

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

@@billyvarga3738 Hey Billy, I believe I did something like that in the original brown sound quest video that I did of VH 1. If I remember, I captured the cabinet with a Zoom digital recorder "in the room." Granted, I've "refined" the guitar rig a bit since I did that video, but it gives you a pretty good idea of what the raw amp sounds like. Here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4GH1ZahYLHVeJs.html I just checked - my memory is still pretty good 😉 It starts around 22:00

Awesome playing, great tone, very nice video!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, T K! Thanks for watching!

They both sound good. Also - I dig Ibanez stuff since the late 70's - big fan. Rock on, dude.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Chris!

I'm assuming it was a SuperD he used on recording as the Shark still has a SUperD in it today. Larry got it right back in the day. phenomenal pup.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Muttley! Yeah, could be....but, if I had to choose, I'm thinking Super 70 - I just should've tweaked the eq a little bit to compensate...but, you could be right - we'll never really know. Thanks for watching!

Awesome 👌 setup and good playing EDDIE WOULD BE PROUD!!!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Robbie!

Your passion for vh music is incredible. Nice Greco.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

1982 I bought the first version of the super distortion and the Floyd rose and had them installed on 48th St. in Manhattan, it was awesome. The Super distortion is a great pick up and has the goods compared to standerd buckers. Love your showman and Geeking Out on EVH Tone chasing stuff. ……… Keep on rocking……

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Great memories...I got my first one, just a year or two earlier, it came in the guitar. An S.D. Curlee...cool instrument. Hard to find these days. Thanks for watching!

Here's the problem: Trying to convey slight harmonic differences with KZread's compression algorism is impossible. I am listening through Sony Studio headphones and I want to be able to say that I can tell a difference in the upper midrange...I would be talking out of my ass. All I can tell is it sounds almost identical to the album listening over the Tube. So I can't comment intelligently about the sound. But I grew up with all those Van Halen albums and know every note and as a guitarist I find watching you play them flawlessly is a real treat. I keep saying to myself "oh...that's the chord he ends the phrase on before the bridge" and countless other nuggets. You have worked out his catalog to the Nth degree, which is staggering considering who you're covering and transcribing. A real pleasure to see my guitar hero studied so well. I have seen Van Halen live seven times, with both Sammy and DLR. I don't count Gary Cherone as a serious lead man for VH. He's jiust a footnote in history. I know Eddie's live tone well. The studio work is where I struggle.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree about the compression / loss on youtube. I assure, you they sound different in my studio! I appreciate the kind words, and thank you for watching and jumping in to the conversation!

@valuedhumanoid6574

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Oh I am sure that in the same room I could tell all the different tones well. In addition to the algorithm 40 years of standing in front of a Marshall JCM 800 has taken it's toll on my hearing.

@bigpiranha

2 жыл бұрын

All things being equal you should be able to still make reasonable comparison if you listen to VH1 on KZread.

Apples and oranges, I love them both, however, the second one was warmer sounding to me. Great channel! Big fan.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Joe!

The compression difference between both pickups makes me think he used both, because the DSD and the Super 70 sound really spot on for different parts, which could indicate that. And it’s not a type of compression that increasing the gain/voltage of the amp could replicate, I feel. Wonderful playing, Sir!

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And, you could certainly be right - entirely possible he tried / used both. I think they tracked that album over a period of about two weeks - so he certainly had time to swap pickups.

Great playing! I like both pickups.

@jegauss

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! I do, too! Almost depends on my mood....

You make a good case for the Super Distortion humbucker. I've been drawn to this pickup lately. I have a multitude of different pickups like SD TB-4, TB-6, EMG Retroactive Hot 70s and a set of Gibson PAF style pickups. They all sound great, but the Super Distortion has a novelty 70s, 80s thing going on.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, the Super D is the "grand daddy of them all. And, it's still very popular. It's just really good at what it does. Thanks for watching!

the destroyer was the guitar Ed used for Nicolette Larson's Can't Get Away From You recorded in the studio just down the hall from where they were laying tracks for the 1st album

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Cool. Never knew that was the guitar used!

For me it's the Super 70. Sounds perfect!

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! If you get a chance, check out my "Addendum to the Addendum video - I got it really dialed-in on that one - for me that sealed all doubt. Definitely the Super 70!

The DiMarzio SD for the win as far as I'm concerned. The DiMarzio, as I hear it, seems to have a tad more clarity to it, and sounds just a smidge more like the tone off the first VH album. Great video. Thank you.

That is an awesome approximation of the VH1 guitar tones. The overall amp/overdrive sound really dominates the tone so they both seem super similar to me, but at times when you play some of the chunkier chords like On Fire the Super Distortion has a low mid growl that really sticks out.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Charles! I really do like them both...but, if I had to pick (and tweaked the EQ in post a hair), I'd have to pick the Super 70. The DSD, just a bit too "compressed" sounding. But, it's a great pickup!

I think with the right amp/speakers and hands/talent, almost any higher output bucker that doesn't have scooped mids will do the trick here. Pete Thorn and Dave Friedman put together an insane vid Im sure everybody here has seen, 23 pickup shootout going for Eddie's sound. Killer playing, love this channel!!

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Agreed - it's not really a big mystery, although, I will disagree (a little) about the higher output pickup - but, yeah, if you put the proper pieces together, and run them properly (wide open with a variac and no master volumes or attenuators), you can get to that tone, or at least very close to it!

@iused2bfast153

Жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Thanks Jim, I agree too, what I said may get guys into the ballpark but there's a difference between the ballpark and the accuracy you're achieving.

There's a distinct charm about them A8 super 70's. Excellent work also cheers! 🍻 👏

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Jonathan! I agree. Those Super 70s have got "a thing" about them...they sound good on a lot of different stuff.

@andreavelinodacosta1418

5 күн бұрын

​@@jegaussThe second is more gentle ...

Really great video. I think the one thing everyone is missing in getting the brown sound is the bridge. There was no Floyd Rose on the first few albums. The regular Strat trem has it's own sound to my ears.

@wizrom3046

9 ай бұрын

Seriously? On Eruption he does massive FR divebombs, you saying he did that on a Strat bridge lol?

@evil6564

8 ай бұрын

​@@wizrom3046100% done on a strat tremolo, no floyd rose divebombs 👍

Super 70 my favorite pickup ! I like the Ibanez super tap 6's they came in the first issue Blazers and the short lived Roadsters. Great head to head and the playing...Well instant sub!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I love those Super 70s, too!

If I had to guess, I’d say he did the Eddie thing and messed around with the pickup a little. My guess is he took the magnet out of the 70 and replaced the one in a super. He also probably rewound the pickup afterwards

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I did with my Shark guitar - it's got a 70s Dimarzio Super D, but I put an Alnico 5 mag in it. Got rid of the ceramic mag...it sounds great!

@michaelkennedy2190

2 жыл бұрын

Wow it is hard to say which one is better!! I like em both too Jim!! It does show how much EVH was ahead of his time. Why so many people think EVH is the GOAT because he is!!! Me included!!! Amazing playing Jim!! Thanks for sharing the love my brother 🙏

@appl8601

Жыл бұрын

@@jegauss update on this thought, the Duncan Custom is a big possible contender, on paper, it's the same as a super distortion, but it's a little tighter sounding and there were Seymour Duncan adds floating around at the time claiming Eddy was using that pickup

That S70 is spot on. It’s not even close for me.

Sounds amazing. It seems to me the Super 70 is just like the old Super 58s- in a great piece of wood, they can sound like ass or glorious, so I'm guessing they varied quite a bit. I've played a Super 70s that sounded anemic, and one that sounded pretty punchy like yours here. Both guitars I played (one Ibby, one Fernandes/Burny) were loud and resonant. I've had a Destroyer II where the Super 58 was big and fat and another where it was thin and pokey. Both guitars were loud and resonant. Here I think the Super 70 has the right roundness and overall timbre, but the Super D has the right "attack"- more immediate, explosive and percussive. Either way, great tones and killer chops. I watched this a few months ago and meant to comment, and forgot. Popped up in my feed again today. Thanks for sharing.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jeff! Yes, I completely agree with your analysis - I think pickup manufacturing has come a long, long way in the past 20 - 30 years. If you look at pickups, say pre 1990, I don't think the consistency was there yet. Especially in the 70s and earlier. The Gibson PAF is the perfect example - most are average, but there are a few that are / were spectacular - most of that was due to the sloppy manufacturing process and varied magnets and magnet strength / charging. So, I'm sure those same factors "plagued" the Japanese plants...anyway, thanks again for listening and commenting - I really appreciate it!

Hello again Jim, you make both of those pickups sounds great. I have the same Greco and could not get the bite and right tone out of mine through my Bray or other plexi variants. I cycled almost a dozen pickups over the past few months and installed the SD Custom yesterday and for me, that was THE one for the first album tone. You likely already have given it a go, but wanted to share. Cheers!

@jegauss

6 ай бұрын

Interesting choice! The Duncan Custom is a lot like a Dimarzio Super D, except it has a "single height" ceramic magnet...I think it's a cool pickup for the right kind of music. And, not a bad choice for the VH vibe, either!

great as always.

Great stuff. You’re able to capture some of the feel in Ed’s phrasing, which is mostly impossible to do. The guy had a natural touch and swing that no one can duplicate. For sure the Super 70 sounds closer but that SD sounds awesome. Have you explored the differences in tone from album to album? He used mostly the same gear for those first 6 albums, yet they all sound different…but also the same lol. Nothing ever sounded like the first album again.

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Carlo! I really appreciate it. To answer your question about the first 6 albums, and if I've explored the differences, YES! 😉 If you get some free time, check out my Channel - So far, I've completed the Deep Dives (I think I call them the "Quest for the Brown Sound") on VH I, VH II, WACF & Fair Warning. I've also done a follow up video for the VH I video. Currently working on Diver Down and 1984.

that tone & groove at 09:00 makes me want to play. Also, was cool how Pete Thorn showed how Ed used a delay for "On Fire" at 11:40.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

It's a great groove! Thanks for watching!

@BillDerBerg

2 жыл бұрын

echo is just hair too fast

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@BillDerBerg Picky, picky.....😉

outstanding sound my man!

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Matt!

Hey Jim!! I lucked out, and just picked up an all original 75 Greco! Man, that thing is thick and juicy sounding! It’s in desperate need of a refret, as the original frets are worn down to pretty much nothing 😅. Maybe I’ll put some jumbo stainless steels on it. I agree, it’s the Super 70’s all the way. They fee great under the fingers too.

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations! Those are getting to be pretty rare these days! Have fun with it!

I think that rug on the wall really ties the room together.

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Ha! And, it matches the drapes!

Super Distortion! Eddie and Dimarzio filed for a patent in 2015 so I think he's been working with them for quite awhile! As a keyboard player and guitarist who's been learning and playing VH since 1978 I'd love to play through any of those rigs! What your doing here is so cool!! Keep it up...

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mark! I really appreciate it.

@marksanders650

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss I wished you would take everything you've learned from this and your other videos and dial them into Fractal FXIII! That'd be awesome! I do love tube amps though! You got a great ear...

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@marksanders650 I've got a buddy who's bringing me a Kemper to mess with in September...we'll see. Perhaps I'll get a kick out of that, and want to take on the Fractal, too!

@marksanders650

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss I had a Kemper for a month and a half and found the guitar volume doesn't respond like a amp would and further every amp has a similar scratchiness in certain high frequencies I couldn't dial out. The Kemper is 24 bit/ 44.1khz AD/DA's compared to the Fractal's 24 bit/48 khz and the Kemper's effects blow. Anyway, I programmed 20 or so VH presets for my new VH tribute band on the Kemper before I sold it and bought my Fractal XL+. I love it and now have 63 VH presets but to update more, I now have a FXIII and let me tell you, in under one minute playing, I don't know what they changed between these two models but my picking hand articulation went through the roof. It's like there's thousands of little nuances when picking up and down the body! I've never got this out of any amp and I don't work for Fractal! I'm 57 and just into all things Ed and found your videos and playing very informative and trying to pay you back with saving your time and ears by passing on that one! Mo' Halen!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@marksanders650 Hey Mark, Yes, that is exactly my experience with the Kemper. I'm just not impressed with how the guitar interacts - it's not even close to a "real feel." I suppose if you rarely change your playing dynamics, and you always keep your guitar volume knob cranked, or in the same position, they're probably fine. And, I can see using one to do "one-off" fly dates, maybe...but, so far, I'm not thinking that it would be a solution for me. However, having said that, I have heard a bunch of good things about the Fractal. I've never spent any time with one, so I can't comment. I'll have to try one - it sounds like they may have gotten it figured out - or close! I think eventually, technology will capture all of the nuance that comes with "skillfully playing" a cranked up tube amp, but I don't think they've got it yet.

I'm super impressed with your knowledge and skill. I would consider you an expert all things Brown Sound.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben!

@benburnett8109

Жыл бұрын

@@jegauss I came back to this and am still blown away. I forward all your content to TNTONES pickups builders. Tim loves stuff like this. You just nailed it.

I liked them both and accept that there is little between them. However, to my ear, the Super 70 was closer to the recording. Great playing and tone, a rabbit warren worth revisiting.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin!

Jim, I have a 1984 Dimarzio Super Distortion in my ‘84 Kramer... I would love to know how it compares to a new one today...all I know is the 84 dimarzio is a killer pickup and I will never change it !!!!!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Larry, the earlier versions of the Super D were wound to a slightly less resistance, making them a little brighter, more "airy" and they weren't "epoxy potted" until a few years later...I'm just not sure when they adopted the new / current spec. It's very possible that it hadn't happened yet by the early 80s...I know I've got one from right around '77 and it sounds a little different than the modern ones. They're all really cool pickups - I wouldn't think about changing that one, either!

The SD is the record tone. More scooped and open and less boxy and focused in the mids. At least in your guitar, the SD sounds like the record. Your videos are simply INSANE good. Wow.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very much appreciated!

@SpinandThrowDiscGolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss all these people for years talking about the brown sound. It was a bone stock plexi, a variac, and the right speaker. Fair Warming being so dark was mostly the speaker. That's crazy.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpinandThrowDiscGolf Yep...pretty much. Yeah, the post eq is a little darker, too, but yeah, what you said is really most of it.

i have to go with the SD. both sound great, though. you've nailed it to my ears.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Funny how the ears play with the memory. To me it’s a sound between these two pick-ups. The SD initially sounds more like it but not quite. Must have been a copy of the SD I think because it is subtly hotter and a tad more loose haired than the 70. Awesome stuff all around Sir thank you!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Andrew! You're not wrong...I have a feeling that it was either the Super 70, with a slightly different / low mid eq bump than what I had, or it was the Mighty Mite 1300 (I have/had one - one coil went open shortly before I did the video - that's why I used the Super D). The Mighty Mite 1300 is a little brighter, and a little more open than the Super D. Therefore, it kind of falls in between the Super 70 and the Super D. Honestly, my feeling is that it was most likely the Super 70, with a slightly different eq setting than what I used. But again, this is all just speculation...I also have changed my theory about the pot value in the black & white striped Frank - I'm thinking it was a 250K. That's what would've been in the wiring harness that got transferred to the Frank (from the sunburst / alder strat, that the Frank was evolved from) and that would've created a lower resonant peak for the Frank guitar, changing the overall EQ on the guitar tracks - again, subtle, and speculation, but I've duplicated it here at the studio. I'll have more about that in the Fair Warning video that I'm working on - stay tuned!

@Andrew-pk9vz

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss I think you are truly on to something with the 250k pot. The super 70 has the character but Ed sure sounded like he was coming in a bit hotter and was controlling it with his fingers and volume nob. Man can’t wait for the Fair Warning…perhaps his most interesting album and my definite favourite❣️🔥🤘

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-pk9vz I'm starting to record for the Fair Warning Video this weekend....hopefully, I'll have it done sooner than later 😉

The original pickup is the one that sounds right to me. The Super Distortion does sound fuller, however it does not have the right sound for the riffs that you played on it. The sound from the original pickup was the one that had me walking funnily, in a nice way hahaha.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam! I agree. I've since leaned more towards the Super 70. I think it just needs a slight EQ tweak in post. Thanks for watching!

Sounds great!

The closet thing to Ed’s OG guitar tone I’ve ever heard…🥺😭💙

Great video as always Jim. I must have watched this a dozen times before making a decision to put the DSD into my Greco EX. The stock PU to me did not have the drive I was looking for into my Bray or Friedman. Im really liking it now.

If I close my eyes, I'd swear Eddie came back and brought his original rig back with him

Super 70 all the way. Cleaner and more clarity.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

love this video. i have a white greco destroyer 77 original. but i find the pickups a bit lame... did you hade to change volume to get similar sound from those pickups?

Hello Jim , always returning to your videos and sharing with friends . I have a question , do you know why Eddie put his HB pick on an angle like a single pickup and does it really make a difference ?

Jim- great playing. I too have 1 ‘76 destroyer. My super 70’s sound flat. Swapped them for SD’s. Your super 70’s sound brighter than mine did. That said, I still vote SD’s.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great guitars, aren't they? I also love the SD, but you should check out the newest video I just posted - I "think" I pretty much ruled out the Super D for the first album. If you get a chance, here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mqCjwZuJqtrcl5c.html

Damn son killer ! I like my superD i have a 500t etc but always go back to my superD 😍😍

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, William!

I’ve never been one to like the Dimarzio super distortion pickup at all. After listening to this video and the original album on vinyl through a really high-end flat response system I’m going to have to say that hands-down the Dimarzio Super Distortion wins on all accounts. The low mid placement is right in the sweet spot and the highs sound To the album. There’s a certain sound of ceramic magnet has that an Alinco magnet just cannot deliver. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Not trying to disregard anyone else’s opinions, you could really tell the difference on the single stuff. It was also exceptional when you played the track “ On Fire”

Either way your a winner ! 🎸🔊 Only super nerdy teck nuts might notice some little variance. It's the sound we know and loved.. Woo !

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

True! Thanks for watching!

That was awesome bro. Any tips on that tone? Fantastic

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks George! Check out the video that “spawned” this video : kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4GH1ZahYLHVeJs.html I show you everything involved in how I get the tone you hear in the video.

I think the Greco with the Super Distortion nailed it. ... with more than a little help from your great playing!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you "MrThud!!"

Do you have 50s wiring or treble bleed? Sounds very clean, when you turning volume down.

the super 70 is awesome and comes closer to the early classic evh tone. btw the greco sounds way better than my evh shark. hopefully my new pickup from greg can fix it. best evh deep videos on yt. thanks jim! 🎱

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom! I'm curious which pickup you had Greg make for you?

@Deetschify

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss ordered the bumblebee pickup in a super distortion look and little tweak to let the shark shine.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Deetschify perfect! I just had Greg make something similar for me!

@Deetschify

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss yes funny thing! 😄 can‘t wait to get it under my fingers.

are the first clips the super 70? then the second batch the super distortion? The first def sounded like they had less low mids.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Yep...the first clips (wearing the t-shirt) are the Super 70. And yes, the Super 70 is generally a little brighter and not as "beefy" as the Super D. Thanks for watching!

Great tones, great work! Subbed👍 Would you mind disclosing what the ohm/dc output is on the Super 70? Is it sub 8k or in the 8k range?

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The Super 70 is a "sub 8K." This particular one is 7.76K

@Yezu808

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Aah..okay thanks,Jim👍 Yea, I think its commonly overlooked that Eddie prolly used different axes with diff specs(pups) and diff amps, per song..and settings on everything aside, to go to tape on mixdown, then 1/2" mastering to tape, and THEN, everyone listens to it on different media(Cass,CD,LP..)..so the brown-questing can be a rabbit hole, to no end.. But I'm glad you're doing this and sharing it, with the degree of care and attention to detail, that it requires. Mahalo n Arigatou🤙🤙👍👍

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yezu808 Rabbit hole is right! And you're also very correct about the media, and how people listen...when I do these videos, I mix / listen / mix / listen / mix on 4 different sets of monitors, 2 different sets of headphones and then multiple brands of earbuds, I probably take it and listen in the car, too 😉. I do my best to get a great balance between all of those...and that ain't easy! Seriously, thanks again for the listen and the response!

Actually, when taking pics as reference, all the pictures with the uncut destroyer have a bridge pickup with a nickel cover, and even the Shark on early pics before he switched to the harmonica bridge. Then it's a cream uncovered pickup. So I think that the Super 70 was the one on VH I, and for sure the SD or a similar one on VH II and live.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey César! I don't disagree...I've leaned towards the Super 70 forever. And I still believe I can get it to sound "nearly" as fat as the DSD, or Mighty Mite 1300 with a simple EQ tweak - in fact, my guitar still has the Super 70 installed - if I was ambitious, I'd redo this with a tweaked EQ, but that'd probably be overkill 😉 Thanks for watching, and thanks for the feedback.

@cesarcros

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss You're very welcome, can't wait for the next vid ;)

Jim have you ever measured you Ibanez Super 70's pickups? It would be interesting to know the bridge and neck measurements if you ever have time. Thank you.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

I actually have measured them...I've got 4 of them - they range from 7.62K to 8.05K. I think that's a pretty good average for them. 8.05K is a bit of an outlier from what I can tell - I would say most are in the 7.7K to 7.8K range.

ive heard from multiple sources that it was most likely that eddie used a might mite 1300, which is their copy of a dimarzio SD i think they sound different but i havent heard them back to back

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

I don't doubt it. I've got one of those vintage 1300 (from the mid-late 70s). It had a more open / brighter sound than the Super D, but still all of the grind - unfortunately, one of the coils opened up a few months ago and it quit working. I do have the the 1800 (same as the 1300, except it has two slug coils, instead of two screw coils) from the same era - but for whatever reason, that one is darker than a current production Super D....I should probably find somebody to rewind that original 1300...

@vincenticyfiregeetar7656

2 жыл бұрын

No idea why I didn't reply to this but yeah that'd be a good idea

Bad Assssssssss rock n roll awesome JAM bro nail it 💯 % 09/13/2023

Question whats the best way to get the Brown sound ?

Totally the Super Distortion! Cheers!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Duly noted! Thanks for chiming in, and of course, thank you for watching!

How did you go about emulating EVH's exact picking technique??? I have tried that motion and it just doesn't work for me...

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Greg, well, good question. It's been years. I'm saw him do it live in '79 and I've been working on it ever since. I started out by getting the "wrist pivot" going in a "flutter," and then I'd use my other hand to gently push my "fluttering" hand into the string...it took a year for me to get reasonably proficient, but now (40+ years later, I don't even think about it anymore). Sorry, no easy technique or tips...just practice.

Jim, do you know where I can buy "authentic" black backs like yours with original cones? I would be interested in four of them. Thanks

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Hard to say - you'd probably need to buy a mid-70s Marshall 4x12. I would reach out to Greg Ginter at Guitar Shop of Wisconsin (they're in Madison). He's got quite a collection of vintage Marshall stuff.

How much tone is different with the super70 vs dimarzio because of the pickup cover???

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

The cover doesn't really affect it. If anything, the cover takes some more of the high-end bite out of the Super 70. So, without the cover, they'd be even farther apart in how they sound.

I’m trying to turn my EVH striped series bumblebee into a replica project by swapping parts in it to make it as close to Ed’s original (I even sanded off the EVH logo from the headstock 😅) the last part to nail is the pickup. I always heard he had a white super distortion in it and that’s the one I think sounds best here. I may have to go with that one. Even though I really love the EVH Franky replica pickup that’s currently in it 🤔 but it’s not white! 😂

The super 70 sounds slightly thicker but the DSD has a little more hair or crunch. I have a DSD and a Mighty Mite 1300 and to me the Mighty Mite has the more hair or crunch but also the thicker tone of the super 70. You should do a 3 pickup shootout between these three pickups ! that would be an awesome video from you if you could do it.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Funny you should mention that - I originally had the Mighty Mite 1300 in that guitar - unfortunately, one of the coils died. It's a vintage pickup, and sometimes they do that. However, I agree with your assessment - the 1300 is probably a little more "hairy" than the DSD. Perhaps a little brighter, too. I do have a vintage 1800 that still works, but that one, is a little darker. I don't know if that's because of both coils being slug coils, whereas the 1300 are both screw coils, or if it's just a difference in wind/magnet???? They're supposed to be the same, and they are both from the 70s, but the 1800 just doesn't sound as good to me. That's why I went with the DSD for the video. I'll have to see if I can find a vintage 1300 again. It definitely was a cool pickup.

The sound on the album is hands down the Super Distortion and it’s not even close. Appreciate all your videos and of all the renditions of Eruption I have ever seen, yours is the best. Some of the other songs are played just a fraction too slow and cleaner and tight compared to the originals. I bet if you were in a groove off camera it would be spot on. But as far as tone, you nailed it! Great job! 👍🏻

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And you're vote for the DSD is duly noted! You're probably right about the tempos - growing up with a drummer, I've had it pounded (yes, pounded) in my head about not rushing - that being said, I do these all from memory, not playing along with anything, so in a way, I guess I'm glad I'm not "off to the races" with rushed tempo and timing 😉 Thanks again! I very much appreciate your watching the videos and the feedback!

@Kashed

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Please don’t take my comment as criticism, in fact it’s impressive that you can refrain from playing these too fast. It shows that you are a great player. Your typical guitar player will race through these songs. I agree, it is hard to play these perfectly in time without playing to a backing track or click track. When I said a fraction too slow before, it’s imperceptible to most people. I only mentioned because I just happen to be on a VH binge doing a deep dive into his tone (again) and have had the early albums on repeat and they are freshly branded in my brain. I have been playing for 35 years and taught guitar and you are a great player and you have “it”. Keep the videos coming, they are fantastic! - K

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kashed Heck no! I didn't take it that way....no worries whatsoever. I mean it when my brother used to "pound" me to play in time. He'd throw sticks at me, too! He'd always be mad at the singer, but knew he could take it out on his younger brother, without causing too much strife! Anyway, I very much appreciate your feedback and your complements - I'm pretty hard to offend, anyway - I've been doing this for 46 years now (man, I hate to admit that!). Anyway, working on Fair Warning right now...I'm waiting on a new choke for my Marshall Super Lead to test out a theory. Otherwise, I'm really, really close. Hope to have that video out soon. Stay tuned! And, thank you again, your input is very much appreciated!

Hey Jim Dandy! What's your signal chain exactly? Amp? Cavs? Lmk, nice, nice tone. If I were chasing that tone, I'd sit down and smile, I got it...

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I detail that signal chain in the first Brown Sound Quest Video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4GH1ZahYLHVeJs.html. But, it's guitar - 30 ft. cable - MXR (vintage from the 70s) Flanger - MXR Phase 90 - 10 ft. of cable - Maestro Echoplex EP3 - 30 ft. of cable - Marshall, '68 12,000 series spec, 100 watt, non-master volume - variac running at 85 volts (I think for this video), into a Marshall 4x12 with two celestion greenbacks and two JBL D120s.

Subscribed!!!

Great job Bro, but I have to give-it-up for the Maxon. Seems to be slightly clearer and articulate and that's how Eddy usually came across to me.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And, I'll put you in the Super 70 Column. Like I probably mentioned previously in this comment section, I really like them both, and I'm kinda undecided. But, I do agree about the clarity of the Super 70. I could definitely fatten it up a little with a minor eq tweak, or mic placement. Thanks again for the comment, and thanks for watching!

@nellawell4976

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss To me, the S.D. seems a little muddy so I went with the Tone Zone and really pleased.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@nellawell4976 Yep, that's a good one, and I agree, it's a great all around pickup for the VH tone - through a lot of eras - I was just trying to "play with" what would've been available back in the day. There's a lot of great pickups available these days - back then, not so much. 😉

SD is the sh*T. You can hear that chirp from the pick attack like on VH1! Also used by Ace Frehley and Paul Gilbert in the early days! Paired with a PAF Pro in the neck position makes a great combo!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kenneth!

Love your sound!!! Were did you learn the exact VH songs? I need to practice more!! 8hrs a day ain't cutting it!!!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Scott! Man, I don't know that I play them "exact," but I grew up with it, and it was way before youtube, so we did it the old fashioned way, and listened - over, and over, and over, and over, and over 😉 Good luck!

@scottanderson4929

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss I know!!! I listened to millions of records and tried to teach myself!! I wish I had photos of playing in my basement sitting among hundreds of records!!! Good times😁

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottanderson4929 Yep...they really were...

The You Really Got Me riff was the closest I’ve ever heard anyone get🤘🔥

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate it!

Definitely the SD2, you can hear those harmonics on the album. But your gain and EQ settings on the Ibanez pickup more closely match the gain and EQ. Basically its just the SD2 but back off the gain and the treble a bit.

The SD for On Fire. Definitely

Dear Jim, where do you get the Ibanez Super 70 A8? Because I’m looking into modding my guitar and this sounds the best to me.

@jegauss

6 ай бұрын

Well, they're getting extremely hard to find - you almost need to find a custom pickup winder to make one for you these days. Keep looking on Ebay, and Reverb, you might find an original. Also, you could check out Arcane Pickups - I'm pretty sure the Phil X model is, or extremely close to the original Super 70 - I think slightly overwound, but similar.

@colincarreiro4374

6 ай бұрын

@@jegauss thank you, this really helps.

I have a 78' LP Custom with super distortions. My band used to complain a lot about how much they fed back on stage. Actually trying to convince me to trade or sell it. Almost did for a 77' black tele, they wanted another 1,000 for. I'm glad I kept the LP. Through my Bandmaster it sounds awesome cranked, just like Ed talked about in his early days.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those old DSDs used to howl! I remember. That's before they did all of the "epoxy dipped" stuff. I just used to wax my old pickups. That took care of most of that problem. I remember when I read that (from Ed's interview) in the 1980 edition of guitar player magazine, about a coffee can, and surf wax, and "melting pickups". Anyway, I just tried it on my own almost immediately after reading that. It worked! I did wreck a couple of pickups, but that was early on... Those Bandmasters, and the Deluxe Reverb are probably my favorite amps! They're simple, but when you turn them up, they just sound killer. I've got a '66 Bassman that I plug into quite a bit, too.

@bucknasty69

8 ай бұрын

I’ve got a ‘79 Les Paul Custom with Super Distortions! It’s a beast of a guitar. Weighs a little over 12 pounds haha. That through my ‘80 2203 and an old Marshall 4x12 is simply THE sound.

Both PU's compliment your tasty playing, so can't go wrong either way. I've owned and enjoyed both an original 1975 Greco Destroyer and an original Charvel Pre Pro with one Dimarzio SD. I would have to say the Greco was more articulate and focused, but as with so many things especially guitars, it's more about the sum of the parts than just the PU. In the end, the combination of a resonant body, a maple fretboard and the Dimarzio SD is what inspired me to create more and that's what matters most...to me. Greco is accurate. Dimarzio is a party...

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 100% and well said! And, thank you!

@gregpedersen6243

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jim. I've been on a serious gear downsizing mission as I've owned and tried out tons of vintage and modern gear over the years and prefer now to focus on my creativity and maximizing my free time to write and record more music. I love what my AXEFX2 can do in so many respects, but can't say the "Marshall on Steroids" sounds is something it excels at. Just not realistic to what my ears are used to from years of enjoying the 'real thing.' What really knocks you out for Amp modeling in the digital realm, any input greatly appreciated!

I thought the Super Distortion nailed the lead in Runnin w the Devil but the Stock Destroyer pickup sounded great for the rhythm. That wireless 7nit is hard to find.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Kirk! Yeah, that's kind of the problem between these two pickups. Personally, I do think it's the Super 70 and not the DSD. I think a slight mic placement move, or a slight eq tweak, gets you there with the Super 70. The DSD is a little too compressed. And yes, that wireless from the VHII video is really hard to find. Thanks for watching!

@BillDerBerg

2 жыл бұрын

you also aren't using the h910 Eventide which gives it that sizzle but that's a good thing because it cheapens the brown sound

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@BillDerBerg I'm not sure the H910 was used on the first album???? I thought it made it's debut on the 2nd album. At least where it was prominent enough in the final mix that you could hear it. But, I wouldn't be surprised. It came out in something like '75, so it wouldn't be inconceivable that a premier studio had one or two of them, by Fall of '77. To me, they're the best "guitar thickener" out there.

The Super 70 has all the low mid mojo, midrange grind, clarity & high end extension. The Dimarzio is just attempting to mimic the post compression that would have been applied in mixing, mastering. It is not retaining the original characteristics of the Super 70. VHI was done in a couple days, no time for pickup swapping and the club photos of the same guitar used in the Sunset Sound photo are very likely the original pickup. Awesome video, thanks man!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tim! Thanks for watching, and thanks for the feedback! I still can't decide, and I still feel like I can hear characteristics of both. However, up until I watched those Sunset Sound interviews on youtube, I was also always under the impression that VH1 "music" was tracked in a couple of days, and the vocals took a few days more - that turns out to be another myth. According to studio records, and people that were there, they recorded that album during studio off time, over the course of a month. They set up and tore all the gear down multiple times, and were gigging the whole time they were recording - plenty of time do a pickup swap - not saying it happened, just that it's possible. The tones change pretty dramatically among all of the songs (when you're really picking them apart), but that could be because of all the setup changes, moving from studio 1 to studio 2 for some of it, mic placement changes as little as 1/4" could account for some of the tonal changes - so, who knows???? I just decided to throw it all in! Thanks again for watching, and your input! I'm working on the VH II video currently. That's a whole batch of new stuff to explore.....stay tuned.

@timgosselin6984

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Hey Jim, thanks for the clarification - those points certainly make it far more plausible. I just watched the first video, man I really appreciate and respect your dedication - the first clip with the Musikraft guitar sounded spot on for the solo brown sound. For me, I'm always thinking about the OG brown sound because obviously it evolved. The OG one lit that fire - those Super 70's have rhythm dynamics that the other pickups seem to compress like they are trying to mimic analog tape compression. I just bought a pair of 1976 ones, both 8k ohms off eBay - I was convinced after additionally listening to Ossie Ahsen's destroyer in his video with headphones on. The Pultec secret certainly makes sense too with regard to the lows, the way it attenuates the frequency just above the one it boosts. The Metropolis forum has a Japan photo with the white destroyer's original neck pickup only swapped out - could be evidence of him using it or its' A8 magnet in another guitar. Tone sure is fun. If there is anyway to chat privately, once covid is done and if you are ever out in LA, I've held 1984. Unfortunately (or fortunately), KZread is as social media as I get. Looking forward to your VHII video!

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

@@timgosselin6984 Hey Tim! I have no doubt that those super 70s made it on a few recordings. Like you, I've even thought that the missing neck pickup ended up in the frankie...I'm sure it did at one point or another, but, the bobbins / bobbin holes are definitely Gibson in all of the super close up pictures. It's the same for the Shark - definitely Mighty Mite bobbins, and not Dimarzio (when the double cream pickup is installed). But, yeah, we'll never really know - but it is fun to experiment and speculate, and hopefully prove the hypothesis 😉 Wow, about holding 1984....many questions but, action and pickup height are my biggest wonders. I believe that the pickup was fairly far away from the strings, and the action was higher than a "shred guy." It has to be with those huge bends that he always did. It's the only way you can get enough string under your finger to push it that far...anyway, I agree on social media. Hate it, but it's a bit of a necessary evil these days. I let you know if I head to LA - it's been a long while.

@timgosselin6984

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jim, the thing that really sells me on the Super 70’s is the way the palm mute rakes make the Marshall bounce. That dynamic seems like a critical characteristic even as the brown sound evolves. It even adds a sense of space with the single notes. Pickup height definitely a factor - even the neck one’s influence. So many stories of those pros having mile high action too, I believe it! The answers are all likely yes, the younger brothers live in the same house. I don’t think anyone’s closer to the tone than you, keep up the great work! Hope to run into you in LA in the future sometime.

@tanneryordan

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss Hey jim. Love your videos. I'm not sure if you have read "Van Halen Rising", but they label every song from the first album and what day they were recorded on. They most likely only setup their gear twice for the sessions; once for each studio room they recorded in. August 30: Atomic Punk August 31: Feel your love tonight, RWTD, Aint talkin bout love, You really got me September 1: On fire, Ice cream man, I'm the one September 2: overdubs for almost all of the previous songs September 7: (Moved to studio 1) Little dreamer, Jamie's cryin'' September 8: Eruption September 8-13: Jamies cryin' overdubs, vocal patches I agree with you that each pickup sounds good for different tracks. but he couldn't have switched pickups for FYLT and RWTD being recorded in the same day. How can one album create so many mysteries???

The Super 70s pickup was the secret pickup for Van Halen 1 with the alnico 8 powerful and clear. Dimarzio with ceramic the magnet is brittle with more fuzz and less clear

@alexissanchez1321

8 ай бұрын

I think the same, super 70s is" the sound" dimarzio sounds thicker,almost too bassy, i have a set of super 70s and with plexi and ts sounds very saggy vh1 sounds

@jegauss

7 ай бұрын

Yep, I convinced myself of that when I did the follow up to this video (called the addendum to the addendum). It became obvious to me that it's not the Super D but it the Super 70.

@alexissanchez1321

7 ай бұрын

@@jegauss totally agree!!

Have you ever tried the dimarzio paf pro? From the videos I have seen it probably sounds closer to the super 70 than the super distortion. It’s overall brighter with less low mids. I think the super 70 is more expressive at times but the thicker dimarzio also works here and there . I have a question with a pickup as old as the super 70, what’s the life expectancy on something like that? Iv heard people say they had to replace their pickups because they were too old , but I wonder if that’s due to damage to the pickup or if it’s magnet loses power . I would assume the magnet could get recharged. It would suck to get an old pickup just to have it flub out

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

Hey there, "Hey There," So yes, I've tried Dimarzio PAF pro pickups in the past - it's been an awfully long time, and as I recall, I wasn't overly impressed with them - but again, super long time ago. I would think the Dimarzio Super II is probably closer to the Super 70 - it's relatively close in DC resistance and it's got the ceramic magnet, which people often compare the A8 magnet in the Super 70 to a ceramic.....but, it's also kind of apples to oranges...as far as old pickups go...they do have coils the short or open internally from years of vibration, and magnets can lose a little bit of charge (not always a bad thing), but the coils can be rewound or repaired by knowledgable pickup winders and magnets can be recharged. I tend to like the older pickups because of the way they're wound. They tend to be less "boomy" in the low-end, like the many / most of the new pickups are wound. The older pickups tend to be more even across the frequency range. Of course that's my opinion and anecdotal at that - but that's my feeling on them.

@heythere6983

Жыл бұрын

I have 2 Gibson sg with humbuckers and always thought they were lacking in mid clarity, too boomy yet too spiky up top. Then I played the dog eared p90s and realized the p90s haBe much clearer flat midrange without top end spike or bottom mud. I agree totally with humbuckers seemingly not being even in their range . That being said I played a guitar with the super 70s at a store recently. I ended up buying it, I kinda thought I was passed humbuckers because I felt they were inferior in the midrange . The super 70 does seem to have a nice balance , probably due to its a8 which is similar to a4 in evennnes as far as I know . The super 70s make my brightest junior with p90s seem dark . It’s definitely brighter but fairly evenly voiced throughout its range, more top end than p90 for sure . Still feels quieter on a recording versus p90 since the 90 has more mids. The p90 at the same volume comes off as “louder “ and “more present ” . In person the 70 doesn’t feel quieter, infact I can tolerate it less at the same volume as a p90, Since it’s bright . In person it was a bit too bright for practical playing at that volume though , top end was a bit much for me . I’m curious about humbucker seized p90s, there’s one I’m looking at, usually the humbucker p90s seem to have that sorta scooped tone of a humbucker , but with overall more prominent clear mids. I gona compare the super 70 to my gibson humbuckers . It’s definitely brighter but I wonder if the extra low mids of the Gibson’s will benefit once recorded . I actually thought the super 70 would be more “present“ recorded than the p90 or atleast similar but sure enough p90s take the cake for recorded presence and forwardness, the 70 has a nice “airy openness” to it though

@jegauss

Жыл бұрын

@@heythere6983 I love P90s! I've got gold top with p90s. That's my "go-to" slide guitar. I think your analysis is spot on. The Super 70 is a bright pickup, but not really much brighter than an old Gibson T-Top (which is about the closest thing to an original Gibson PAF) - they just have more "push" do to the A8. I don't know the age of your Gibson humbuckers, but if they're the '57 classics, I find the Classics to be pretty good, but the Classic + is a little tubby on the bottom - not as even as the original PAFs (at least the ones that I've played). I think Gibson's best humbucker is the Burst Bucker 2. the Burstbucker 3 gets a little too hot, and the BB 1 is good in the neck position. But yeah......I love those P90s!

What's the reverb on this video? Sounds like Sunset

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Yep...it's the IK Multimedia Sunset Sound Plug-in.

@vicarelli

2 жыл бұрын

@@jegauss crazy

I like the DiMarzio better. Great video.

@jegauss

2 жыл бұрын

Duly noted! Thank you!