Brompton Vs Tern the story of the hinges

in this video we look at the two very different design philosophies of brompton and tern folding bikes. We take closer look at one of the common component, the hinge lock, and how the two philosophies result in two diabolically different solution and their pros and cons

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  • @rc_23
    @rc_233 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the tern tip. Now I’ll make sure I’m the only one who folds my bike lol. I got the Tern Eclipse X22 for a year now and it’s been awesome!

  • @markmaldonado9192
    @markmaldonado91925 жыл бұрын

    Great video explaining everything so detailed

  • @shahnawazahmed19
    @shahnawazahmed194 жыл бұрын

    You have a very nice way of narrating your point. I'd love to see more videos on Brompton. The other Brompton videos out there are way too scripted and kind of looses the feel of a story even if it was there. Hoping to see more on this channel. Cheers

  • @missUn1verse81
    @missUn1verse814 жыл бұрын

    I bought my first Tern last week I love it Very good advice on how to care for the Tern. Thank you.

  • @aswang78

    @aswang78

    3 жыл бұрын

    which Model?

  • @mauriciodice
    @mauriciodice4 жыл бұрын

    That "plastic part" it's the safety pin of the hinge. It's an extra layer of safety for your hinge because as you said it, it's still possible to lock your bike without. So why make it of plastic? Because it's better to get that broken than your frame damaged, after that you take the to ths authorized Tern dealer to make a proper repair. Bu the way, you have to apply an unnecessary force to brake that safety pin and been a bit stubborn (or don't want to read the signal which says to unlock the hinge first).

  • @francesn4404
    @francesn44044 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for creating this review and comparing the Tern Vs Brompton from an engineering perspective! I have been debating between these two bikes, specifically the electric brompton vs Tern Vektron (S10, Q9). I wonder if Tern still uses such delicate or plastic parts for their Vektron.. which is quite pricey already. Brompton and Tern representatives have said that their frames are very solid and the hinge is made of metal.. but you perfectly illustrated the strengths and weaknesses of each core product design. Thank you!

  • @memphisriver1001

    @memphisriver1001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Instablaster...

  • @haniffhaniff5764

    @haniffhaniff5764

    3 ай бұрын

    another commenter said "That "plastic part" it's the safety pin of the hinge. It's an extra layer of safety for your hinge because as you said it, it's still possible to lock your bike without. So why make it of plastic? Because it's better to get that broken than your frame damaged, after that you take the to ths authorized Tern dealer to make a proper repair. Bu the way, you have to apply an unnecessary force to brake that safety pin and been a bit stubborn (or don't want to read the signal which says to unlock the hinge first)."

  • @hobocyclist
    @hobocyclist3 жыл бұрын

    Good video!

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser770625 күн бұрын

    So which bike rides better for your tours? Bromptons fold easiest and smallest but not by much. They also have a lot of proprietary parts compared to Tern.

  • @janpcs
    @janpcs3 жыл бұрын

    The plastic part only needs to keep the lock closed. For that purpose it is plenty strong. You don't have to make every part of armored steel. The Tern doesn't fold up as compact as the Brompton. The latter has one of the smallest folding systems in the world. But you are comparing a bike with 20 inch wheels to a 16 inch one. Of course that's not a fair comparison. A 20 inch one is bigger so the fold also is bigger. You can't pour a pint of milk in a half a pint bottle. The new Tern BYB has a more compact folding system.

  • @aahhman107
    @aahhman1073 жыл бұрын

    Hi i have the same problem with the term bike lock. Did you change the whole thing? Thanks

  • @daveadriffield7296

    @daveadriffield7296

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can't blame Tern if you broke the catch by not using it correctly.

  • @kuman64
    @kuman644 жыл бұрын

    since you have used the folding bikes quite well, can you suggest me which one is batter dahon or tern? or any else?

  • @kuman64

    @kuman64

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually today I received my Brompton S6L. And today was my first ride so it will take a week to get used to it. Thn let u know about Brompton and I haven’t used any dahon n tern

  • @urbancyclingrevolution7575

    @urbancyclingrevolution7575

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are basically the same but tern hinge is much stiffer.

  • @kwhatten

    @kwhatten

    3 жыл бұрын

    Buy a Brompton if you need a tiny, folded package. I rarely fold any of my folding bikes. I find 451 and 406 size wheels to provide a more comfortable ride.

  • @hoser7706

    @hoser7706

    25 күн бұрын

    @@urbancyclingrevolution7575do you find the stiffer hinge better?

  • @wcleong5584
    @wcleong55844 жыл бұрын

    I have 2 Tern (X 18 and X20 Verge series) l will be extra carefully when I ride next time ! I do receive the prastic pin when l buy the bike.Thank you for your video.

  • @MrBazsi888

    @MrBazsi888

    4 жыл бұрын

    why do you have to be extra careful ?

  • @urbancyclingrevolution7575

    @urbancyclingrevolution7575

    4 жыл бұрын

    I own a verge x30h and clock more than 5000 kms... the plastic pin will only break if you forcefully open the latch without pushing the safety pin.

  • @wcleong5584

    @wcleong5584

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@urbancyclingrevolution7575 .Tkx q for your info.l also like x30.the bullhorn and the 30 speed hub

  • @daveadriffield7296

    @daveadriffield7296

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't receive any parts when I bought my Tern.

  • @fender1000100

    @fender1000100

    5 ай бұрын

    Tern verge x range are the greatest folders ever made PERIOD. Especially the X11 and X20..

  • @ary1848
    @ary18485 жыл бұрын

    What you think about plastic: cheap parts What companies think about plastic: weight saving

  • @rickz7461

    @rickz7461

    4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, have you heard of the term sacrificial, In engineering it's common to make weaker components designed to wear out before more expensive components. I keep spare plastic latch pins with mine and my wifes Tern P10's just like I always carry a puncture repairs kit. Things do break if used incorrectly, It's better to have a plastic pin and use the system correctly than a metal pin that wears away the locking notch which is an integral part of the frame. Do you prefer to replace a plastic pin or the back half of the frame, that's why Tern supply a spare pin with each bike. Don't forget the pin didn't wear out it failed due to being misused.

  • @kanikasingh889
    @kanikasingh8892 жыл бұрын

    Are u indian ? I'm planning to buying a tern verge N8 my heart is stuck on a brompton but my pocket doesn't allow one..

  • @urbancyclingrevolution7575
    @urbancyclingrevolution75754 жыл бұрын

    The plastic part will only break if you open the latch forcefully without pushing the safety pin. .I never broke a safety pin. I own two terns, x30h and modified vergep20 as shown on my profile photo.

  • @urbancyclingrevolution7575

    @urbancyclingrevolution7575

    4 жыл бұрын

    and yeah Brompton folding mechanism is far superior than any other folding bikes.

  • @markvincentcocjin
    @markvincentcocjin3 жыл бұрын

    So what you're saying is that dumb people are able to destroy a tern bike. That is good to know.

  • @vmadugolkar
    @vmadugolkar3 жыл бұрын

    Tern customer support is not great if in need of any spare parts trashing this bike the only option.

  • @daveadriffield7296

    @daveadriffield7296

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rubbish

  • @vmadugolkar

    @vmadugolkar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@daveadriffield7296 That's my experience.

  • @janpcs

    @janpcs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vmadugolkar I had my spare parts in a few days. Maybe you live in the middle of nowhere and your local reseller is a bit lax?

  • @vmadugolkar

    @vmadugolkar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@janpcs lucky you. I wish I was as lucky as you.

  • @daveadriffield7296
    @daveadriffield72963 жыл бұрын

    Bromptons are full of plastic parts. My Tern wasn't sold with parts.

  • @BlackyBrownDestruction9337
    @BlackyBrownDestruction93372 жыл бұрын

    Thieves can cut cable locks easily, get u or d locks

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus3 жыл бұрын

    Brompton is 2x too expensive, nobinnovatuin

  • @doctordhiraj
    @doctordhiraj3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Can this folding bike be used by obese 110kg riders?

  • @daveadriffield7296
    @daveadriffield72963 жыл бұрын

    It takes about a day to set up the Tern? RUBBISH.

  • @janpcs

    @janpcs

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I though. BS.

  • @skepticalmechanic
    @skepticalmechanic4 жыл бұрын

    What an awful video... I feel like I need a bath now...

  • @datapolo

    @datapolo

    4 жыл бұрын

    You need to get out more! 🤣

  • @skepticalmechanic
    @skepticalmechanic4 жыл бұрын

    No replies... bad video

  • @berkeleyedit7852

    @berkeleyedit7852

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, Brian. You don't have to express everything. Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and go about your business.