I know one thing, I’m just getting more and more annoyed having to pay my taxes on things I’ve not asked for or voted for!

@bertiescunsbutch9323

20 күн бұрын

It's becoming more like a parliamentary dictatorship.

@SagaciousFrank

20 күн бұрын

No taxation without true representation.

@matthewcook9404

20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@JACB006

20 күн бұрын

@@SagaciousFrank Well Said - HEAR HEAR

@geraldfisher3033

19 күн бұрын

Well said.

The whole tax system needs to be overhauled. It needs to get simple and council tax needs to be abolished.

@DotCom-fu9qc

16 күн бұрын

Council tax, is a commercial tax, chargeable dwellings, get your head around the definitions, and you'll realise your principle only home is not a hereditament, domestic dwelling etc. But moreso look at schedule 2 of the European communities act 1972, poll tax and council tax was never permitted.

Keep your money in your pocket. Why pay anything at all. The money taken from honest working people is wasted by the idiots I. Government anyway.

@SagaciousFrank

20 күн бұрын

Sound advice, except you can't avoid PAYE or NI as that comes out automatically, and if you don't pay council tax they will actually hand you a custodial sentence without any priors. Sick country.

@raveninblack

20 күн бұрын

Exactly. Not so bad if your self employed. I’m just fed up with the useless politicians.

@barryevans791

20 күн бұрын

Great advice, get yourself put in prison for no reason. Make the tax payer feed you because it is all a waste of time anyway.

@stevev238

17 күн бұрын

And they promised that income tax would only be a temporary measure- why back when it was introduced to pay for the Napoleonic wars. That debt was clearly just a few years ago, so time to review that promise. At the very least, no one earning below the average wage should be paying anything. Take back control guys- opt out of PAYE, then if there's a dispute you can at least insist on this being resolved before they get their hands on a single penny of your money.

Shows the greed and incompetence of HMRC

@SMGAPR8

17 күн бұрын

AUDITS ARE EXCELLENT PLACE TO BEGIN

The Tories have had 14 years to sort the problem out,but as per usual theyve done bugger all.

@user-pb1tb1ux3c

20 күн бұрын

It has nothing to do with any government at all, it is purely the civil serpents in control of any government of the day, the politicians all know this and are complicit, even if the government of the day wanted to change the system, the serpents would pay little or no heed to the minister in charge, the serpents take an oath to the crown and to parliament not to the government nor to we the people,

@DavidHiggs-no8zl

20 күн бұрын

vote Tory, get labour, vote labour get Islam its our fault

@davidpaterson2309

20 күн бұрын

Other way round - they have made the problems worse all by themselves. The current government have had two deliberate major policies that have diverted resources from frontline service to taxpayers a) the EU deal they negotiated which demanded a much greater HMRC focus - thus spending - on import tariffs and border controls (thousands more Customs staff, millions spent on new systems and processes) and b) the usual Tory desire to cut public spending. It doesn’t take a leap of the imagination to work out what happens when those things coincide as the priorities for HMRC.

They are worse than highway robbers

@conorgribbin3928

20 күн бұрын

If your referring to Torries you'd be right it means thieving b#$%$#ds in gaelige or something to that effect 😋

@noelfleming3567

20 күн бұрын

No Dick Turpin had d manners to wear mask 😂

@SMGAPR8

16 күн бұрын

Not Robin Hoods that for sure,,

Yeah,at least an hour to get through,cut off numerous times. Cost me £23 in extra phone charges. Just to get a tax refund took 4 months.. Plenty of money for foreign wars though...

@stevev238

17 күн бұрын

Utterly appalling that it isn't a free number.

@SMGAPR8

16 күн бұрын

​@@stevev238working at home system during COVID and after, lest we forget

They owed me over £15 k and had to wait 9 months to get paid.Then they didn’t send me a bill for over £5k and suddenly sent me a bill and a fine.When I phoned up I had to wait an hour and then it would hang up.I asked for a paper form and the foreigner on the line was unhelpful and put the phone down on me. Next time I got another foreigner who was not helpful.I got fined over £100 for a delay of a month when I had to wait 9 months. It’s disgusting.I am considering going abroad or stop paying.

Many years ago I was so manager at a local HMRC telephone helpline. We answered 95% plus if all calls within two minutes. 80% plus of those calls were fully dealt with. THEN, a the government, it was Tony Blair a, decided that the HMRC had to save money. Loads of money. One of the things to go, was local helplines. It was centralised, less staff were employed and service standards plummeted. The Conservative government have continued to reduce staff, and also close most local offices. So don't blame the staff. The government have got exactly what they paid for.

@bertiescunsbutch9323

20 күн бұрын

Tony Blair and ToryTony Blair admirers.

@DavidHiggs-no8zl

20 күн бұрын

goes back to Blair . vote tories get labour, vote labour get Islam , ur choice

@bertibear1300

20 күн бұрын

It was a decent system 20 years ago.I used to call into the local office to get help and they always were helpful.

@rjw4762

19 күн бұрын

Very good post Sir. Ultimately such 'savings' end up COSTING the Government money. SO short-sighted. Other issue is that many experienced, capable HMRC people get attracted to work in the Private Sector, leaving the average behind rudderless and leaderless.

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

@@bertibear1300 ...and people generally werent borderline insane everywhere u look then either....

Got a letter two weeks before Christmas saying HMRC had been back looking at my tax situation, and years previously (just outside the saved P60 period) they found I had underpaid my tax one year by about £3000, and if I didn't pay it all by the end of January they would take legal action. My tax situation was exactly the same that year as the ones before it and since, and all tax was fully paid by my company as usual (I'm employed). I wrote a letter asking for the evidence that they say they sent me (which I never received) and a breakdown, and they wrote back saying they couldn't look into it as 'computer says no'. This was months ago now and I still haven't heard anything further.

@SagaciousFrank

20 күн бұрын

Sounds about right given the state of this country, and it's only going to get worse.

@noelfleming3567

20 күн бұрын

Not another scandal 🤔🤔

HMRC introduced a computerised PAYE system some years ago. The upshot of that was the closure of virtually all of the high street tax offices where in the past tax payers could see an expert face to face. Many of the long standing officers with a vast amount of experience were made redundant. Cost cutting a public service where people need help has made the service what it is today. The call centre's now taking the public calls (eventually) operate using help cards and often have little experience in the taxation structure. Like a lot of things now, a computerised system replaces people to cut costs. Whilst some people may undoubtable not be paying sufficient tax, there are probably many people paying too much!

I can't name a single thing that's improved in the UK over the last 25 years

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

potholes are now more readily available, as are broken car springs, wheels, tyres - does that count? ....:(

@SMGAPR8

17 күн бұрын

Try again, 800 yr, lorra lorra Gaps,

I owe HMRC money, didnt realise until i had a letter off them. That day, i rang them to pay it off. I rang them at 4pm, hour later, still listening to music, waiting for someone to answer. I then had a message saying the office is now closed. I have not made another attempt to pay it off after this.

@stuartcarlin1135

19 күн бұрын

They don't mind as they're adding interest to your bill daily

800 years is about how long it would take me to get a doctor`s appointment.

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

assuming u r well enough to call in at 8am and fend off 200 other patients...

One point on the working from home theme. About ten years ago HMRC decided to get rid of its network of local tax offices, (which usually did an OK job) and consolidate them into a few big hubs. I assume this was signed off by George Osborne. There wasn't the money to relocate staff, nor could the department afford to make a large percentage of its staff redundant and recruit and train up a new cohort of employees. The result is the mess we see today.

show me the law that says anyone has to pay tax...

Salaries are terrible in the civil service, staffing levels reduced to bare minimum. Working from home is a problem. There are far more diverse ways of earning a living resulting in complicated tax calculations plus more attempted fraud and tax dodging. I worked in the tax office in the 1980s, we had face to face meetings with tax payers and targets/deadlines to complete tax assessments. I personally know a case where a deceased persons tax affairs have not been settled nearly two years after her death. The tax system needs to be URGENTLY simplified and loop holes the rich take advantage of closed.

I wrote to them a couple of years ago, got a reply 6mths later. Depressing is this Governments middle name.

@happyapple4269

20 күн бұрын

its called stonewalling.

This why we need you in parliament prime minister's job to sought this stuff out

@matthewcook9404

20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

If you feel sympathetic Nigel. RETURN to politics

@matthewcook9404

20 күн бұрын

Flipper says “Nah”. 😂😂

@kenhaynes4259

20 күн бұрын

No chance....he'd rather work for the Yanks !

@nickgent9949

19 күн бұрын

I know we need Nigel but he has his reasons….he is a considerable force and disruptor outside politics. He’s more effective and powerful outside the Westminster bubble than within and is garnering more and more support. There are parallels with Enoch Powell, who had immense support in the country (including Trades Unionists) but no power base in Westminster. There is a huge and unhealthy disconnect between Westminster and Parliament due to the “first past the post system” and the too- little mentioned tyranny of “vote distribution.”. This gross anomaly bestows incumbency on just Labour or the Conservatives. To capitalise on this iniquitous system, Nigel has to piggyback on it - his best bet to secure power may be to wait until the Conservatives are on their knees after the forthcoming General Election - he’s then better-placed to dictate his own terms. In the interim, vote REFORM.

@user-zd5fx2oj6s

18 күн бұрын

I agree 100%

Our taxes are needed for non British who say they are victims

Nigel there’s not one major company in Britain today answer there phones,from your bank,pension fund company,electricity company etc etc and if you do get an answer they keep you there for ages to rip you off on phone charges..Help😩

@SMGAPR8

20 күн бұрын

No but you do get a round robin Link to Redrum, deadbeat at first second and or third hurdles...... 🙃😂

@geraldfisher3033

19 күн бұрын

Very true. Especially any Government institution.

No wonder people go off grid it's becoming a scary society

@Daisy-tl2lh

20 күн бұрын

Britain surely is now a scarey place ... there is truely nobody to contact in a crisis!

@matthewcook9404

20 күн бұрын

Yeah. No electricity. No scary stuff. 😂😂😂

Just received another letter from HMRC demanding tax from 2016 2017 tax year, even though I have always been on the PAYE scheme and worked for very large UK companies all my career.

its the same with all of the Corporations, B Gas don't want to speak with their customers when you do find a number online its a Nigerian call centre where they hardly speak English, same with the Court Services, the NHS, all the utilities, the Councils ...

@muckle8

20 күн бұрын

Brits being mugged off - no service whatsoever

When you do get an answer some of them don’t know the answer to your questions. It’s harder now that hey turn their helplines off for six months expecting you to follow their complicated online site. It’s a nightmare!

Basically, they replaced experienced staff with people who get very little training so haven't a clue what they are doing.

@DavidHiggs-no8zl

20 күн бұрын

I am owed over £5000 pounds , over 5 years , made several phone calls, spoke to a wonderful lady called bertha in Plymouth she did not have a clue when I said Salary sacrifice ,im an engineer and I had to Exsplain to her what this Was . She was Great , she only been in job for 3 months ,working from home , and said I will check for you, phone call was over 70 minutes , she could see my stress , and put it right, 3 previous phone calls and I was just fobbed off, good people , and shit people with bad attitude , this is our Britain, sad,

@63mckenzie

20 күн бұрын

@@DavidHiggs-no8zl Another problem caused by working from home. If in the office she would have more experienced officers beside her to ask advice.

They are working from home and it’s all gone south.

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

in which countries

@bridiesmith5110

19 күн бұрын

@@davidstuart4915 probably India or spain

The gov promising 51m? That's more tx pyrs money being flushed down the tubes. It's not by accident that HMRC wants to make this as difficult and complicated as possible for anyone to understand and deal with.

My wife was going to pay a £500 HMRC bill that appeared from nowhere. I said, wait a minute, let me write and send it recorded/signed. No response but logged on 2 months later and £500 changed to zero. My wife rang, got through eventually, and recieved an apology. It's a fkg shambles.

Tick,tock,tick ,tock......your chance of being the leader of REFORM is slipping away nigel...if you truly care about changing the direction of this nation you need to get back into politics FULL TIME.....tick,tock,tick,tock......get to it nigel..now

I thought all of this would have been sorted when we took back control

@muckle8

20 күн бұрын

We all did.

Scared of them is correct . I have an engineering degree and the complexity of dealing with this hideaway outfit is problematic. Goodness know how hard working people can understand the requirements of this cowboy outfit.

When you do eventually get through, the "adviser" who you need help from doesn't understand the tax laws themselves!

Thats called working from home!

⁠ All of the snivelling service and msn have a spiteful attitude. Regardless the cost to Britain, they’ll do whatever it takes to give the impression they were right about their beloved EU. There is a name for people that do this too a country.

In China earn 1,000 pay 120, earn 10,000 pay 1,200, earn 1,000,000 pay 120,000. Simple straightforward pay 12%. No tax dodges, just pay.

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

wot, no 23,000 pages of garbage taking millions of hrs in whtiehall meetings?!

@alexbowman7582

19 күн бұрын

@@davidstuart4915 I knew a woman who worked in the government, she said the MP's tell people under them what to do and they would then tell my friend to do it, that's three levels of bureaucracy.

I was appalled to read that the Average is for 13 days sickleave a year. In the private sector i ran a department of 22 Peoople and the average was 3-4. These people just dont take work seriously.

HMRC should employ accountants and pay their wages , this cost should not be passed onto the Brit taxpayer.

Incomprehensible? It's work from home, or doss about at home in reality.

The website still stuck in the 90s as well and ‘intentionally’ impossible to navigate

Company I work for deals with HMRC daily as part of our business.....the issue isn't just lack of Man Power, it's the quality of staff once you get through. Seems that most 'front liners' are 28 year old Graduates with useless degrees 'trained up' to be experts in Tax and Benefits. Many of them are working from home in their London bedsits....with no chance of team work or face-to-face mentoring. Everything changed in March 2020 - workers now think that working at 75% capacity is enough and that WFH is actual WORKING - in most cases, it's NOT.

HMRC is very badly run.

The reason is very simple, they are all 'working from home' which means that they are NOT working at all, they are watching TV, surfing the web, looking after thier kids, or just sitting and hoping that someone else will take the call! They need to get off their fat lazy areses and get back to the office 5 days a week and do some work!

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

what, like non government employees have to??!! Outrageous ;)

I’ve worked for them for nearly 30 years and I’m afraid you don’t know what you’re talking about. All the front line customer contact staff (over 10% of the workforce) just had a pay rise last month purely because the minimum wage went up. Some roles were never done at home even during the pandemic. If you’re handling seized devices, documents, official assets, seized cash etc you can’t do that in your living room. The least that anyone is doing in the office is 60% and for senior civil servants it’s 80%. Most offices are now at capacity as we moved other departments in to consolidate offices so if you want more than 60% you’ll have to get the taxpayer to pay to open more offices. We went from 560 offices to 13, with the enquiry centres closing. Not sure what this gold plated pension is about. We all pay hundreds a month into it, it’s no longer a final salary pension which it was when we started, you get less money out, have to work longer before you get it, and get less if you’re made redundant. Heinz factory has a better pension. If you work in a call centre, every moment of your day is tracked. You’re either available for calls, in a call, doing the follow up action for your last call, or on a break. If you go for a crap, your manager knows how long you’ve been gone down to the second, and pulls you up if you look like you’re awol. If you don’t touch your computer for 2 min, it switches into away status which the whole dept can see. If you want more front line staff, cut the fat with the HR and “policy” roles. We’re still wrapping up CONVID schemes and providing info to the inquiry and doing the compliance on them and chasing deferred payment plans etc, but somehow had to absorb that into our existing resource. The scamdemic is a big reason why the resource is so thinly spread. The civil service is there to do a job, not create them. The majority of us realise that. We’re taxpayers too and drive on the same crumbling roads and are stuck in the same nhs waiting lists as everyone else.

... and when and if they do answer the phone, they'll either pass you onto someone else (yet another holding queue) or tell you rubbish. They told me to fill in SA208 once - it doesn't even exist! The whole taxation system is impossibly complex. If it were much more simple, it would benefit us all as we'd all be able to understand it and get a self-assessment return done in record time. I am convinced that the government would be getting more money in if it was more simple AND the bonus would be that we wouldn't need shed loads of civil servants. As you say, most of us are truthful and try to do the right thing, but I live in fear and dread all year round waiting for the next S.A return! It preoccupies my life and I'm ground down by it. This isn't how life should be!! Last time I tried to call HMRC (and go through the labyrinth of options, it took over 1 hour. I only have a 1 hour limit per call with my service provider, so, through no fault of my own, I was into the charging band before I even got to speak with someone. Also, why do I get bounced around from DWP to HMRC and back again, especially when trying to work out N.I. contributions and how to pay etc? It's ridiculous and very stressful and preoccupies me every day!! I kid you not. THEN when a payment is due, there's absolutely no lee-way. It's inhumane and nothing more than perpetual torture.

Nigel we need you you actually care about all the little things that really matter in our lives 💪💪

If new some one who holds back on paying there full tax bill i would say good luck to you i would not dob them in. The inland revenue are the biggest thieves in Briton ALONG SIDE INSURANCE COMPANY'S .

Like so many other things in Britain it’s broken - vote Reform!

I don't pay anything but I don't live in your jurisdiction - you guys are screwed by this BS

any political party ought to be able to rewrite the tax code in its entirity while in 5 years of opposistion and then present that code to the electorate

As a self-employed person, about two years ago I received a letter from Inland Revenue stating that all tax had been paid and that the outstanding balance was £0.00. Since then, I have received letters claiming that I owe thousands of pounds dating back to 2012, which is false, and statements listing numerous penalty fees. My local tax office was closed down many years ago, no-one ever answers the telephone, and for some unknown reason I have been locked out of my account on the HMRC website, which despite my several attempts to register again with personal details and passwords, repeatedly responds with the message that I need to register.

I used to work for HMRC. Till I was made redundant, alongside HUNDREDS of my colleagues, many of whom had decades of experience at the job. A year or two later, the Government ‘changed its mind’ on staffing levels and recruited new staff who were paid less than a McDonalds worker, given 3 weeks training, and hey presto, a now fully qualified HMRC worker (not). You will never get the same level of service that used to exist years ago - that’s gone for good.

It’s a lawful LAWFUL right to reject paying taxes it’s ILLEGAL not to pay The difference between LAW and LEGAL CONSENT IS NEEDED AND I DO NOT CONSENT #lawoftheland

Wow unbelievable but completely believable and it applies to virtually every institution and doctors surgery in the country

800 years of paying for being on hold...

The isle of man, excellent example of a ridiculous system.

In the 40's i took out a pension It now or did pay me £45 a month but in the last six months has been cut to £22.21 due to tax code.

@Daisy-tl2lh

20 күн бұрын

same here why did Ibother saving anything into a pension when the gimmigrants arrive with nothing and get everything given to them

Phoned last week 6 times, kept being cut off dead end, said to busy then cut off

You can never get through ever. You could wait all day and never get an answer. They have been sending us PAYE fines every month and we don't have PAYE. We have emailed and still get fines. Our accountant says don't pay the fines as they have emailed but still fines. The accountant has told us they would not refund us if we pay. They have owed us money for over 6 months but still no payment. They are a joke. Also no public sector worker should ever get a bonus wrong wrong wrong. It's all bent.

I gave up on phoning HMRC just the other day after three attempts. I put my query in an old fashioned letter.

In the last two weeks I phoned HMRC, the first call after listening to the "use the internet speech" said the average wait time yesterday was 40 minutes, Waited 10 minutes then had to end the call due to work. A few days later at home I tried again and got the same message re wait times so left the phone on whilst doing things and almost dead on 40 minutes I was cut off without touching my phone. What a coincidence!

Everyone is a critic and there is no pleasing them. Civil servants are costing too much, gold plated pensions, blah, blah, blah. They cut the workforce back to the bare minimum because of all the complaints, now the complaint is that nothing is getting done. Guess what? You want people to work, you have to pay them and the first people out the door when the wages went down were the ones with years of experience, so now, even if you do get through, you are talking to someone fresh out of school.

@davidstuart4915

19 күн бұрын

last time i looked nearly 1/3rd of working UK were employed by the government, perhaps they can afford to cut back a few million?!

@barryevans791

19 күн бұрын

@@davidstuart4915 If you think they cut costs by getting rid of the people with all the perks, you are wrong.

Those that are working are having to work harder to pay for those that won't work.

HMRC always ready and willing to put the boot in at the first opportunity should you hit hard times.

I made an application for Voluntary NIC payments in August 2022. 3 letters and 4 phone calls later I complained and had my MP get involved. HMRC/DWP refused to discuss this with him, as I live overseas. But nonetheless I own a property in his constituency and I am on the Electerol Role. Two years on nearly, I have still not been given the 18 digit account for payment.

This is crazy! 800 years!!

Everybody pays tax on income. Then what's left is taxed again when you spend it. Make it make sense!

Just about everything in this country, needs an overhaul, ha.

Simple tax: bank deducts 30% of money leaving a business account, unless going to another business account. Abolish all other taxes, and most of HMRC.

They should be refunding each tax payer their hourly rate for every hour wasted on hold. They need to remember they are the people's servants- not their masters.

Recently spent over 100 minutes driving to get through, when I finally got through the guy transfered me to another dept , the phone went dead, useless is not the word, also my accountant informed them I was ceasing self employment, the goons still sent me a tax bill when I had already paid tax for over a year on paye, totally incompetent throughout

My best friend is studying for her ACCA. It's like a fucking ancient puzzle with layers on top of mazes. They update the processes every year.

Amazing. Australia has the same problem as the UK. Out of the thousands of pages of ambiguous and tangled tax law, no one from the Tax Office can define the word "income." Besides, tax is supposed to be voluntary. A tax obligation is still not been clearly defined either. Your "signed" annual return is your contract with the Tax Office.

As Kermit uses tax avoidance schemes, why is he getting upset ?????

Its Fraud that simple as that.

Calling to Hmrc also cost. Also it doesnt matter if they work from home as long ass they perform their job welll

Call HMRC at 8.00am in the morning and you are likely to get through. I couldn't believe it when someone answered the phone. He had to put me through to someone else, which I was glad about because he had me on loud speaker and all I could hear was my voice echoing back at me when I was trying to speak!

Ban tv licence

If they fixed the tax code then they'd lose all their tax loopholes, same as in the US. So Ofc. they aren't going to do that.

Beurocracy gone. mad

I gave up after waiting on hold for an hour

Ok ,so you have identified the problem,now for some action ,but by who?

Sounds familiar. Public sector milking the system and provide nothing. There’s a few like that.

I spent 1hour on the phone only to be cut off almost as soon as they answered and then got a fine to boot never had these issues before

If you sell a Ginger Bread Man if it just has a face, eyes, nose & mouth no VAT. If you add buttons & a belt buckle VAT needs to be added for the product.

Too much tax food unless Harrods, clothing cars under or £25,000 no need for tax too much, gas, electric, council tax, tax on property too much.

And in Canada we think CRA is bad - yes very similar story!

Pal up with a government minister give him a ring on his personal mobile 📲. Could be a peerage in it 🤔🤣😂

Its deliberate

Well working from home is going well but for whom.

OUch ! "working more days of the week than their parents and GRAND PARENTS ever had to". That needs a definition of work Nigel and a specific daecade for a detailed comparison which I suggest you avoid.

Broken britain

We are being srewed

Has anyone thought of the staff? Has either of these worked in a call centre???

Oh just another £51 million & for the nhs its hiw much 😂😂😂 there is plenty of money for certain things but not or any CARE 😮

Not just HMRC it’s everything utility companies gas electric, virgin media is impossible to get in touch with even message system online you’re 200+ in queue??

Then, when you do get through you get to talk to an arrogant twXx .

It’s out and out robbery

The tax employees amongst other goverment posts operate a pension scheme that now is so out of control, the government are borrowing money to fund the scheme. The total borrowings for the government employees pension scheme is now responsible for £One and a half Trillion pounds , of the National debt. Thats how out of control the inland Revenue and civil servants pensions are. Theyre responsible for half of the national debt. Their pension contributions are so far below that required tofund them. Nothing near a comparison with the private sector.