I'm always amazed how modern the London Underground must have seemed in the 1930's - streamline style stations, modern electric trains.

It's quite amazing how a simple change in livery can so dramatically alter the appearance of these train sets (for better or worse).

@tonynelson8594

3 жыл бұрын

The 1938 stock was always red. When later versions were introduced, mainly 1959 and 1962 stock, these were aluminium bodied and not painted.

@BigBadJohn5358

3 жыл бұрын

The red 1938 stock could've still been running today if they just replaced the motors, probably cheaper than building whole new trains every time! Red is London's colour, its buses are red - except in advertising liveries. They could've even been vestibuled so you could walk through the whole train - like the S stock on the sub-surface lines, on that topic, the red flare-skirted O and P trains could've also been vestibuled like main line trains and still been running today with new motors.

@randomscb-40charger78

5 ай бұрын

@@BigBadJohn5358 Adding new motors would only go so far, and that's not even mentioning disability access requirements.

The 38 Stock still looks quite modern, even after eight decades.

@poznanskiszybkowiec_official

3 жыл бұрын

True. But Not in the Case of the Traction Motors, Besides. Many Consists were Taken Out of service to Be Stripped For Parts, Which Are No Longer Produced...

@totalal4601

3 жыл бұрын

lol it does not! :D

@totalal4601

3 жыл бұрын

@@isleofwighttransport ah, I am only suggesting the 1938 stock do not look modern at all!

@isleofwighttransport

3 жыл бұрын

@@totalal4601 oh sorry 😂😂😂

@jonnyj.

3 жыл бұрын

@@totalal4601 Yes it DOES look modern!!

I joined LT in early 1970 on Northern line first as a guard then drove them. I loved them they each had there own characteristic features. All had electro pneumatic braking and a Westinghouse pure braking system. The driving cab was small and seats uncomfortable. Used to knock you around when going around bends. I then worked in the depot as shunting staff then when the PPP came in moved to rolling stock side on maintaining these. I was part of the team that helped replace these but very very sad to see them go. I worked on 1938 1959 1962 1972 mark 1 and 2 and of course the new trains now the 1995 stock before ATO fully came in. Left LT/Alstom 2013 leaving as an instructor and depot protection master. Loved every minute of it.

@andron2348

3 ай бұрын

You forgot the 56 Stock, which is very strange as like me you would have had stock training on them by a Tranmans Inspector, like Terry Rycroft,

@jasonskerritt5258

2 ай бұрын

Their* own

I've said this elsewhere, but for me, the 1938 stock was THE tube train. I have fond memories of riding in them as a child in the early 60's from my home station, Mornington Crescent.

@simonwinter8839

2 ай бұрын

Not the padded cells ? !!😅

@peterjohnson4932

2 ай бұрын

@@simonwinter8839 ???

@simonwinter8839

2 ай бұрын

@@peterjohnson4932 "Padded cell" Unofficial name given by travelling public to the carriages used on the City and South London railway (now part of the Northern line) from 1890.No I wasn't around then !!

I remember looking up at the dangling handles when I was a child and wondering how long it would be before I could reach them.

@robertp.wainman4094

3 жыл бұрын

So uniquely London.

@avigdonable

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@bostonrailfan2427

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertp.wainman4094 …New York and Boston beg to differ. they even have an insult derived from them: straphanger

@robertp.wainman4094

2 жыл бұрын

@@bostonrailfan2427 True - but to a rather different design.

@millomweb

2 жыл бұрын

The '38 stock is my memory of the Tube. The dangly balls lived on but gone were the 'wooden door mats' that matched the wooden escalators. My impression of the transport - with rapid acceleration - and 'notches' - was that it was designed for transport and not comfort. Getting from A to B was the primary function. The Newcastle Metro was noisier - motors-wise.

I’ve now heard “stock” used so many times in such quick succession that it has ceased to sound like a real word.

@paulukjames7799

3 жыл бұрын

That is a condition known as Semantic satiation it happened to me a long time ago with the word bridge but he did over use the stock word.

@u0aol1

3 жыл бұрын

Here's a trick... when you hear the word stock, force your brain to think about a sock, you'll eventually get the feeling of the word stock back. For bridge you could use bride, or ridge, just make yourself think bride every time you hear bridge. Forcing yourself to re-recognize the word as an actual word by considering similar sounding words.

@ozoneau

3 жыл бұрын

I counted "53" stocks. Enough for a market.

@kake_dnb1422

2 жыл бұрын

chicken stock

@EgoShredder

Жыл бұрын

Eventually he will run out of stock... 😉

I have to pinch myself at times when I see TfL footage showing how much things have changed in my lifetime.

I went to the Isle of Wight in the last few months of their operation. I'm so glad I got on one before they were withdrawn.

Isle Of Wight must feel like the youngest of many siblings, i.e, the end receiver of hand me downs.

@callumthornelow2936

3 жыл бұрын

Been like for years, the new 484s are the closest thing to a new train they've had since almost a century, as pretty much the only thing the D stock and 484's have in common are the body shells and the bogies.

@BigBadJohn5358

3 жыл бұрын

The 1938 stock was half a century old when it first went to the IoW. The 1923 trains started on the island at 44 years old.

I was brought up and lived in Morden. When commuting up to London at the age of 50, I was a passenger in rolling stock that was the same age as myself - and it FELT like it!

RIP '38 stock. You will be fondly missed.

@Keithbarber

3 жыл бұрын

But some units are preserved so it's not quite all over yet

@warweezil2802

3 жыл бұрын

Gutted that covid prevented me having just one more “in service” ride .... loved driving these.

@Keithbarber

3 жыл бұрын

@@warweezil2802 unfortunately Chris a fair number of people missed that moment of being there to see it

@warweezil2802

3 жыл бұрын

They were nice machines to drive ... it’s not rose tinted spectacles... I was actually happy if one of those turned up when I was picking up during a duty. Heavier than the 59s etc that was derived from them I would happily have worked them all day every day when I was on the Northern line. Guess I was born far too late 😂🤣

Fascinating how sharp and stylised everything was in the 1930s, it got shabby in the years after the war: but has sharpened up markedly in more recent years.... :)

Used to ride the 38 stock back in the late 70s on the Bakerloo Line and marvelling at the 1937 date and thinking they were much more comfortable than the newer stock.

I was disappointed that there was so few shots of the interiors of the stock- the aspect that I remember from travelling in London between 1965 and 1968.

@darthwiizius

Жыл бұрын

I can remember going to London in the 70s with my mum and we rode the the 38s and the 62s and 72s. The 38s seemed a little worn out but when inside they just felt more civilised than the "futuristic" well lit more modern strip lit trains. It was almost like you would expect some decent, slightly eccentric chap sporting a Trilby and smoking a pipe to sit down and start a pleasant chat about something or other. There were a lot of old B&W films on on Saturday mornings in the 70s which may have coloured my preconceptions but it is worth noting that as a small child that couldn't reach the balls how people gave up their seats for me without request, so perhaps the interiors did lead to a more civilised behaviour?

I have fond memories of these - for the first five years of my life we lived between Maida Vale and Warwick Avenue and travelled on these a lot.

@prof.hectorholbrook4692

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Watford Junction to Baker Street, when the Bakerloo went out that far.

@infrequentvlogs4433

Жыл бұрын

I'm American.... but from 1976 to 1078 we lived 2 blocks from Maida Vale station. You could buy a soft serve cone, with a Cadbury Flake in it, at the entry... and BELIEVE ME, I'm sure I argued for that cone every single trip.

To think I used to ride these trains in London as a boy and loving the fact that they where old only to move to the IOW in my teens and rediscovering them travelling between Ryde and Sandown.

@jasonskerritt5258

2 ай бұрын

Were* old

the 38 stock probably outlived every single person who designed and built it, impressive for an emu

@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of

Жыл бұрын

IM LUCKY TO KNOW SOMEONE WHO BUILT THEM AND STILL IS OUT LIVING THEM

Luckily got to ride one of these just before we went into lockdown, they were very bumpy and corroded but absolutely charming trains.

@stephenbrookes7268

3 жыл бұрын

Back in the 80s I am sure I once rode in a 1920s train on the central line. I also find old trains very charming. Apart from preservation railways, the most evocative old train I ever rode in on a mainline service was a, La Brugeoise from 1913 on the Buenos Aires Subte Linea A. The line had been preserved as it was when it opened in 1913. When you wish to board or egress at your station you had to manually open the doors, but they were closed by the guard remotely. The trains had been lovingly maintained and restored, with all the original un-upholstered slatted seats, glass lampshades and fittings. All trains in Buenos Aires have vanity mirrors at regular points, as Portenos always want to look their best! In fact I am sure it is against the law there to not be beautiful.

@surreygoldprospector576

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the bumpy ride on the I.O.W. was due to the track which was awful. Before the D-stock started running Network Rail closed the line and put in new track on the worst stretches, thankfully.

I still remember them operating on the Bakerloo Line.

@steeveedee4307

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Loved the old round bulbs and hanger straps.

@prof.hectorholbrook4692

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Used to commute part way on those. Full of character & charisma.

Fascinating stuff. I never went on the 1938 stock, but I did ride on the earlier 1925 trains when I visited the Isle of Wight.

@moaningpheromones

Жыл бұрын

I've never been on the 1925 trains but I thought all underground trains were red thanks to the 1938 stock on the bakerloo.

Fabulously accurate and detailed video. I’ve no idea where the footage was found, but the inclusion of the 1960 Stock ATO train stopping at Grange Hill tunnel took me back to my childhood... I used to watch the trains for hours standing on that footbridge! Fascinating.

@paulspeight8398

2 жыл бұрын

I guess at the ATO footage was taken in around 1970, The train operator in the video was my father Bill Speight,

Had heard of these via another channel some months back; oddly heartwarming to know for sure now that they're getting some preservation TLC, after giving the better part of a century's sterling service.

I found this very interesting despite being an Australian who has never been to England, nor travelled on the Underground. The only overseas destination I've been to was New Zealand, where I spent several months in 1982 working & then touring both islands by rail/bus. These days they run the heritage steam-train called the 'Marlborough Flyer' up & down the South Island's east coast for passengers, but in 1982 when a 10-day rail-pass allowed you to travel on any of NZ's rail-routes & coaches (where there wasn't any trains) you left the Inter-Island Ferry at Picton, then boarded a train to Christchurch. Then it was just a diesel-electric locomotive hauling 4-6 carriages (can't remember exact number), but the unusual thing was that the carriages quite recognisable as from the London Underground, so my guess is that those trailer-units may have been 1932 stock withdrawn from service in the mid 1970's (or earlier), then shipped to NZ because import-duty on new goods was exorbitantly crippling back then! Incidentally, while at Auckland's Transport Museum, I had the opportunity to also to have a short ride on an old Routemaster bus & a tram from Melbourne (which is another city I haven't ever visited)!

@Tom-Lahaye

3 жыл бұрын

Although the carriages you refer to look a bit similar due to the rounded roof ends they weren't 1938 tube stock. The tube stock was significantly lower in height than those NZR coaches, and had their doors continuing into the roof itself. The NZR coaches, being designed around the same time (1930s) had end doors terminating at the cantrail, they were built by NZR own workshops. There are however British imports more recently, they are second hand MK2 coaching stock, and some got minor overhauls and are still very recognisable as MK2 coaches, but others as used on Wellington suburban services had involving rebuilds and were shortened and fitted with 2 center vestibules with sliding doors. In the video there is a 1938 tube set standing next to a BR EMU of some sort, and this towers above the tube stock, NZR coaches are almost similar in height to BR stock, despite being narrow gauge instead of standard gauge.

@stevie-ray2020

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tom-Lahaye Okay, thanks for that info.

@offrails

3 жыл бұрын

They might have been NZR 56ft carriages (commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JA1271_Opapa_16Feb2003_JChristianson.jpg) or repurposed railcars (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZR_RM_class_(88_seater)#Grassgrubs). On a related note, the Wellington suburban network operated a "cousin" of the 1938 stock up until 2012 in the form of the English Electric DM class EMU (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_DM_class_electric_multiple_unit). When the network received new EMUs in the 1980s, the old trains were retained to work the Johnsonville line due to its limited loading gauge in the tunnels (just like on the Isle of Wight), though the tunnels have since been enlarged to allow modern EMUs to run on the route. Having ridden the 1938 stock on the Island Line, as well as the D Stock on the District Line (plus a few Melbourne trams to boot), I'm curious as to how the much larger Class 484s will fit through the Ryde Tunnel

@stevie-ray2020

3 жыл бұрын

@@offrails After looking at those Wikipedia pages & the links on them, I have to agree that they must've been NZR 56ft carriages due to the fact that they were fitted with heaters & it was the middle of Winter; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZR_56-foot_carriage (your link didn't work). However, they could've been NZR 88ft carriages after all, but it was many years ago!

@simonwood6932

3 жыл бұрын

When I first worked in London in the early 1990s, the 1939 English Electric built trains ordered by the former Southern Railway for the Waterloo and City Line were still operating (www.bloodandcustard.com/SR-WC.html). Although much smaller, they reminded me a lot of the similar vintage English Electric EMUs in Wellington

Rest well you rolling Workaholics.

Word of the day “stock”

@nathantew946

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone would think we where at a cooking class.

@andysedgley

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathantew946 Or an investment tutorial

@hesterclapp9717

3 жыл бұрын

@@andysedgley Or a railway history documentary Oh wait...

@eddiewillers1

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathantew946 Or at an agricultural show.

@davidwardle5

3 жыл бұрын

Or talking about 1/3 of a 1980s record producing trio?

Lots of TrainLove ♥ from Germany! I was so sad to hear that those beautiful trains have been replaced on the Isle of Wight! It's one of my favorite trains ever and my favorite route on Train Simulator and as silly as it sounds, I actually wanted to visit the island so that once in my life I could ride this lovely train from Ryde to Shanklin... but a couple years ago they have been replaced. This is true train nostalgica, thanks for this awesome video!!

Fondly remembered, as soon as I think of London underground trains, the first thing that springs to mind is the 1938 tube stock. The steel bodies did not like the Ryde Pier marine environment.

The 38 stock was the first train I drove in 1982 while I was still in training to be a guard, on the “East India Docks line”. and about 9 months later became a northern line driver, then a district line driver.. the 38 stock was a beast, I loved it.

These days people on trains : looking on phones People in 1938 on trains : everyone with their thick newspaper 😳

OMG a quality documentary of my favourite Tube stock. Thanks! I must watch this later.

The earlier (1923, codes VEC and TIS) was used first on the Isle of Wight as they thought they electrical equipment being above the floor would protect it from the sea when using Ryde pier high seas.

@johnmurrell3175

2 жыл бұрын

Salt water and steel is not a good combination . Salt water , aluminium skin on a Steel frame is even worse both corrosion and Electrolysis I wonder what trains are built like that and are expected to operate in a salt spray atmosphere ?

Brilliant video on such a good piece of UK Railway rolling stock

Nice video. Love the old 1938 Stock :-)

@BigBadJohn5358

3 жыл бұрын

If they were just refitted with motors made in 1978 then 2018 they could still be running on London Underground. Every 40 years put new motors on.

Great vlog as always. The oldest vessel we have in Norway is a paddel steamer. «Skibladner» was but into service on lake Mjøsa in 1856 and she still runs the same service as she did back then. Since the start it has been a summer only use.

Even though it wasn't really useful, the streamlined front ot the 1935 stock trains does look very good and very futuristic.

@threedeesrail6144

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree was unaware of this stock version maybe make a 3d print of it hmmmm

Well done. Very detailed as usual. Thanks for your video and hard work.

Great video. A big shame they ended service during a pandemic, which meant that spotters couldn't travel to ride them before they went. I'd planned to go to the IoW in august 2020, both with my family for a holiday and with the National Methodist Youth Brass Band for our Beaches and Bandstands tour. But of course these trips were cancelled, so when I eventually go to the IoW, it'll be D stock I ride on instead of 38 stock.

@jimtaylor294

3 жыл бұрын

Aye. With a bit of cruel irony; I was considering a trip to the Isle of Wight in 2020. Narrowly missed out on them.

@London-trainspotting

10 ай бұрын

Anyone who is sad cuz its not in Service go check this train at the London Transport Museum its there

Very enjoyable video, well researched and presented.

Thanks for the post. I remember reading this in college. I forgot most of this, so it is like new to me again.

What a very interesting and informative video, with a most beautifully spoken and clear commentary. Thank you enormously for posting.

Excellent video. Just shows how long good engineering lasts for !

@millomweb

2 жыл бұрын

LOL 300 year old bridges..... 500 year old bridges........ 1000 year old bridges....... 3000 year old bridge !!!!

@millomweb

2 жыл бұрын

.......www.mcginley.co.uk/news/the-uk-s-oldest-bridges/bp324

I can see where the 1959, 1962 and A60 stocks got their design from.

Growing up in the '70s and '80s with a Central Line station as my local station, these were my Tubes 😊

Ooooh. How I love the London Underground. The odor! It is the thing which I don’t forget. And how fine system it is. Here in Finland we have only two straight metro lines whereas in London the Circle Line makes it really working. When the Corona is over, I’ll take a trip to London and just sit on a bench and sniff that odor. Wonder if it is available as bottled? Yes, I am serious. I have old tarred marline hemp cord which I smell time by time.

Last day with London Transport was in May 1988 and the Northern Line was the last line to operate them. Four of the refurbished Bakerloo units were transferred to the Northern to bolster services there after the Bakerloo had finished with them.

@ianmcclavin

3 жыл бұрын

There was a delay of over a year between their final appearances on the Bakerloo in 1985, and their reinstatement on the Northern. Their Northern Line duties on this final stint in passenger service only occurred in rush hours Monday to Friday 1987-89, I did manage to take a ride on one from Edgware right through to Morden before their withdrawal one evening, and several trips on the Isle of Wight since.

@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of

Жыл бұрын

THE FIRST OF THE FIVE WAS PAINTED SILVER / GRAY THEY DID NOT WANT JOE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE 38`S WERE BACK - LOOKED TERRIBLE AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS , SO THEY REPAINTED BACK TO IT`S PROPER LIVERY , THEY SPENT MONTHS IN THE DEPOT SHEDS AT GOLDERS JUST TO DRY THEM OUT AND ONLY ONE COMPRESSOR AT EACH END WAS WORKING, WHICH CAUSED A PROBLEM WHEN THEY WERE PREPARED FOR SERVICE BY THE TRAIN CREW WHEN THEY WERE IN THE SHEDS, AS THE SHED LEAD IN THE REAR HAD TO REMAIN IN THE TRAIN JUST TO MAKE THE COMPRESSORS WORK BOTH ENDS AND WAS REMOVERD BY THE GUARD WHEN THE DRIVER TOLD THEM THAT THEY WERE GOING INTO SERVICE, AS THE COMPRESSORE ON THE FRONT COULD NOT MAINTAIN ENOUGH AIR PRESSURE TO MOVE THE TRAIN, AS THE YEARS WHENT BY THEY BEHAVED LIKE THE 56/59/62 STOCKS AS SPEARE FUSES AND OTHER EQUIPMENT FROM THE LATTER STOCK TRAINS WERE THE ONLY THINGS AVAILABLE , SO MUCH STUFF WAS ROBBED FROM THE MIDDLES OF THESE TRAINS THAT 7 OF THEM BECAME PERMANANT TRAINS THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED TO BE UNCOUPLED IN THE MIDDLE SO HAD TO WORK AS 7 CAR SETS FOR THE REST OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE

superb video - excellent and very educational!

GREAT info.......THANKS

Excellent work as usual!

As usual well researched,narrated and presented. Excellent video! 👍

The Class 483's were refurbished before 20076 because I remember seeing red ones with the Metropolitan seats in 2005.

@stephenrgow

3 жыл бұрын

Two units were done a few years before the others, so in 2005 both liveries were co-existing.

Brilliant!

thanks for the video to start my sunday

Excellent! Very comprehensive and some very interesting clips and stills. Thank you!

At ~9 minutes the commentary refers to 'driving trailers'. These are actually DMs, driving motors. There were three other types of '38' stock, trailers (T) , non-driving motors (NDM) and from 1948, uncoupling non-driving motors (UNDM). The last of these were NDMs with an auto coupler at one end, which enabled them to be formed at the inner end of a 3 car unit to enable auto uncoupling. There had been driving trailers in the previous standard stock and earlier types, but none in the 38 stock. These trailers were, as intimated by their name, an unpowered trailer car with a driving cab

I would love to knock this thing for six, but it actually looks really cute. In fact, I think it is probably the single best looking train set in Britain, ever.

Remember going to school on these ( and some older ones). Interesting video.

Three two car units extant and a single unit around the corner from us unless that’s a two car set also, haven’t been to see it yet. Still one two car set at St John’s Road

Hi very interesting video thank you

Remember using the 38 stock many times, in the 1960s - from Upton Park to Upminster on the District Line. Thanks for another good post. Les.

@warweezil2802

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure that would have been 38s as they are full on tube stock, you may be confusing them with Q stock which was also red but was a “sub surface” stock built for the larger “cut and cover” tunnels that form the District and Met lines where they run sub surface in central London. The District was later run by CO/CP stock (also red)

@lesreed9269

3 жыл бұрын

@@warweezil2802 Possibly, Chris. I only have my memory of my dad telling me they were! Just looked at some Q stock pictures - there were certainly some of those that I travelled on - with the elevated (clerestory) roof, along with the "non-elevated roof" type!

@norbitonflyer5625

Жыл бұрын

@@lesreed9269 The similar looking O, P and R stock also operated on the District, and lasted longer than the Q stock - until about 1980, when they were replaced by the D stock. Post-war R stock was not red but unpainted aluminium (the LT workshops having learned how to work with that metal whilst building aircraft for the war effort - the Routemaster was another product of that experience)

Ah, the summer armpit-cheese heat shimmer as the underground train doors open; and the sudden green look of the teenage girls, just tall enough to get a perfect mix of armpit and backside fumes... The joys of the London Underground.

Metro camel:the only PROPER MU builder XD

Very good.

When Britain actually made long-lasting trains for its own use. How sad we are now buying stuff that is just throw away.

@bostonrailfan2427

2 жыл бұрын

…not so much long-lasting, more like unable to afford to buy new stock

@Cancun771

2 жыл бұрын

@@bostonrailfan2427 PRE-WAR QUALITY!!1

@billpugh58

2 жыл бұрын

100 years of predominantly Tory governments. They extract wealth and distribute it to their donors.

Nice!!

Those dinosaur livery trains were always nice to see in the depo at St Johns

Theres a 3rd Isle of Wight unit to be preserved as a static-display using the former bembridge branchline platform (Platform 3) at Brading station The unit is to be painted & restored into Network South-East livery and some of the interior will change

@jimtaylor294

3 жыл бұрын

Grand news :-)

@winco68

3 жыл бұрын

Is that still going ahead? I had read somewhere that the local council had blocked it as they would be ultimately responsible for the upkeep of the unit as they own Brading station and weren’t prepared to finance it? That was late last year maybe they’ve had a change of heart?

Even incomplete, the New Works Program can probably be credited with a large portion of the character of London.

@1258-Eckhart

3 жыл бұрын

shame about the Northern Heights though.

The observation car on the PDSR is still in commercial service, built c.1920.

I rode these while visiting the isle of Wight as a kid I remember the dinosaur livery

When you think everyone involved in the 1938 in the early days are either dead or almost 100 years old or over when it left service.

The streamlined noses were much better looking than the recently withdrawal units... I must get my ears syringed, I thought you said chief engineer graph paper 🤣 I have travelled on both types of the ex-London underground stock but not in London, but on the Isle of Wight ‘mainline’. Finally, the travelling public will have a greatly improved railway when the new stock enters service in a few months.

Let's hope the Ongar and Epping can make it into a century

As you step onto these trains the date and maker is found on the door entry footplate. As a kid going to school I remember particularly loving the Bakerloo line trains with ancient stock including the 1938 stock. I also travelled on the District line and we had two types in operation in around 1970 the earliest with raised roof was either 20s or 30s and I'm kicking myself for not remembering. The floors had wooden sections which were all worn down by constant trafic. The doors of all trains had written above them 'Obstructing the doors causes delay and can be dangerous' which they have now amended. Edit PS we also had the bus before the Routemaster in common service the RT, which was still around in 1978 for sure. They were lovely inside with a green transmission tunnel /heater? between the front seat pairs.

@dmv5552

3 жыл бұрын

I can also dimly remember catching a District Line train in the mid 60s that had the clerestory roof and an oval window for the driver. It looked positively antiquated but as I recall ran like any of the other District Line trains (CO/CP and R stock by then).

@martinda7446

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmv5552 the clerestory roof Aha! Thank you. I loved them inside,and yes, they sure went just like the rest.

@martinda7446

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmv5552 I also remember pressing all the buttons pretending to be a guard...Looking out the door up and down the station finger over buttons ..trying to anticipate the real guard somewhere else...

@grumpyoldman47

3 жыл бұрын

You're remembering the Q stock. This can best be described as a "right mix", as some was formed form older pre-LPTB stock with a flat front to the clerestory, and some curved into the clerestory. However, not all Q had a clerestory roof; there were some new build vehicles with the flared bodies of COP/R, and I think some of the Rs actually started as new build Qs Confused?

@martinda7446

3 жыл бұрын

@@grumpyoldman47 Yes, I was looking...Thanks very much and YES it gets very confusing. I do remember just how beautiful every part of these and the contemporary British Rail mainline carriages, and indeed the busses, were compared to today. I'm sure it's right that safety should be the first consideration. Yet if it were up to me quality and style would come first. I drive classic motor cars and know they would concertina and crumble in a serious accident. But they are so beautiful it's hard to look at a modern car. Also why I'm a careful and considerate driver...(Well I think I am..)😺

Surely the narrow gauge locomotives built in the 1860s and still running on the Ffestiniog Railway in Wales are the oldest commercial trains:-)

@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of

Жыл бұрын

AND THE VAULK RAILWAY IN BOURNMOUTH WERE THE FIRST ELECTRIC RAILWAY STARTED

I remember them coming into.the station seeing Cockfosters or Kings X on the sign strip

Only experienced these courtesy of Train Sim World 2, but I rather like to drive them as they're old fashioned and interesting compared to more modern units.

Glad you can follow the script. You definitely have me confused.

The very last unit was still at the depot when I went last week you can see in my vlog

A design classic.

If I say stock two more times, that's 96 stocks in this stocked up rhyme' - Fred Durst, maybe

The opening film clips show a different type of train - 1959 / 1962 stock

For design & longevity I would put the 1938 stock and the Routemaster as 2 of the most successful forms of transfort ever

Whatever the Underground hasn’t finished eating, the Island Line finishes its plate.

i just realised that when they were retired they were 82 years old damn

Hugely interesting and informative . The 1938 tube train is to say the least iconic , and it is good to hear that some examples have been preserved .

2:30 Large parts of the Tube are ventilated by the trains pushing air in front of them, as pistons in pumps. Streamlining train fronts somewhat negates that.

You should make more videos about tube stock

In case you hadn't heard the word "stock" enough last week. watch this video.

The Class 483 will be missed. Goodbye 1938 Stock.

Yes the other item relating to stock is the word Tube Sock as opposed to the much larger Surface stock.

Hey TTC First Subway were build in Gloucester by Gloucester Railways Carriage & Wagon Company . we Call G-Series

5:15 looks like he visited the Wheeltappers And Shunters at lunchtime.

unbelievable that after 70 years some shyster was charging 140,000 a year for that equipment!

@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of

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HE - HE - HE SADLY YOUR IN THE REALMS OF ALMOST HAVING TO MAKE EVERY SINGLE PART AS THERE ARE I000`S OF THINGS THAT NEED DOING AND REPLACING WITH NONE ON THE SHELF AND THEY HAVE TO PASS FIT FOR SERVICE EVERY DAY , TRAIN M.O.T.S EVERY 7 / 14 DAYS , 6 MONTH, AND YEARLY OVERHAULS AND THEY GOT TO PASS THEM

Can you do a video on Network Southeast, please?

Pls make a video on the D78 stock train

Didn't some of the 1938 tube trains run with one 'Standard' trailer, certainly during the 1960s on (I think) the Northern Line? Some trailers didn't have end doors (just two pairs at 1/3 and 2/3 along each side) and a different roof line. There seems to be one of them at 3mins 4 secs as well (easily identified by different livery)

@norbitonflyer5625

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They did, but it was the Bakerloo

Hey maybe northern rail could update to these

Lovely documentary on a really iconic train. Utilitarian they may have been but did their job for fifty plus years in London and another thirty plus on the IOW. Given the restricted size available on the tube they were remarkably roomy and could shift an incredible number of people quickly, albeit not very comfortably. The next grandad type to go is the 1972 stock on the Bakerloo I presume but it hasn't quite got to fifty years old yet so may be around for a few years more!!

Oh wow, I had no idea there was tube stock running for so long

@henkbarnard1553

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BR scones have been around 10X longer.

@C2K777

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@@henkbarnard1553 Forget the scones. It's well known that BR egg sandwiches are dated from the pre-Jurassic era and that traces of their teabags have been found in the DNA of Neolithic skeletons.