I'm impressed they managed to slide the acronym FUC past administrative approval

@amistrophy

10 ай бұрын

future urban combat kit

@bakersmileyface

10 ай бұрын

Of course. Even the administrators like a good FUC

@BigMakBattleBlog

9 ай бұрын

@@amistrophy autism's a hell of a drug

@jona.scholt4362

9 ай бұрын

It's about streamlining things, simplify the logistics with allies. Friendlies Utilizing Common Kit

@BigMakBattleBlog

9 ай бұрын

@@jona.scholt4362 It sure will help with inter national force opportunistic equipment acusition

This is an unexpected but awesome surprise. I look forward to watching this. And Cheems is looking as excellent, distinguished as ever.

@lukejohnston4666

10 ай бұрын

NAFO

Looking forward to listening to this I've been following Stuart's work.

Very interesting! Also, 56:51, the rocketeer to the left is obviously the way to go XD

We requested fires to provide kinetic affectors to rubbleize the adversary's structure. God military jargon is hilarious

@billpugh58

10 ай бұрын

It’s because they are afraid of using the real words. It’s deceptive and cynical.

@bakersmileyface

10 ай бұрын

​@@billpugh58They're afraid of saying "We requested fire support to blow the shit out of the building"?

@JacobGreen-yp8br

10 ай бұрын

​@@billpugh58 The army isn't shy about it's purpose. The language is to be more precise or sometimes appropriately broad. A lot of words which can refer to too many things can easily cause confusion.

@realWARPIG

10 ай бұрын

​@@JacobGreen-yp8brYes they fucking are, this is the woke generation. They are literally more afraid of offending someone's feelings than dying on the battlefield.

Second Korean War is expected to have a lot of urban combat.

@aiminyou

10 ай бұрын

Post-urban hahaha have you seen the amount of artillery in korea

@maximilianodelrio

10 ай бұрын

​@@aiminyouyeah it would be ruins but still urban combat, same as in WW2, the rubble makes it even harder

@hlvscomendandeche8744

10 ай бұрын

It still would be Korean War as they did not signed peace treaty

@echonova12

10 ай бұрын

oh hell no, i don’t want another war infront of my doorstep

@lukejohnston4666

10 ай бұрын

@@hlvscomendandeche8744 I stood corrected

This new experimental arrangement seems like a good adaptation to the modern battlefield. It seems like the 10 man section will just fit inside the Boxer IFV, plus a driver, which is economical. The use of the systems operators will only get more important as the technological aspects of the battlefield get more advanced. One thing I don't think is being addressed in the two platoon company structure is the need for reserves in actual combat situations. So, for training purposes there is no problem with two full strength platoons, the reality in historical warfare is that units are chronically under strength due to attrition. The question becomes whether to hold reserves at the company or battalion level. And where we recognize that the urban battle is primarily a company and platoon level fight, it only makes sense to keep the reserves at that level as well. New soldiers will get cycled through the headquarters/reserve platoon for training and then rotate into the two main fighting platoons the current model practices with, and injured who can still function can be rotated back, all within the company. On the subject of injured, I didn't see any reference to organic medical personnel at the company level, and it seems like that would be necessary to cover the gap between battlefield first aid and medical evacuation with a dedicated medic capable of more skilled interventions, like an EMT or nurse. Also, the attachment of engineers at the company level is going to free the commander act with more initiative. The idea of machine guns integrated together with the pioneers is natural, yet this too needs to make it down to the company level as well if that is the level we predict the bulk of the command burden will be laid. For armaments: the light machine guns should probably be phased out of the fire teams and sections altogether, being replaced with a battle rifle/DMR for more effective fire and less ammo burden. The new fire team armaments should probably consist of three assault carbines and a battle rifle, with an additional M320 grenade launcher in stand alone configuration with one rifleman. The platoon MG should be a medium caliber, sharing ammo with the battle rifles. And the platoon should have a specialized drone capable of dropping a large mortar shell with pinpoint accuracy for targets that the Carl Gustav team can't hit because of obstacles.

@BigMakBattleBlog

9 ай бұрын

this guy's seen no fighting

I don't see why UK Army keeping the Hiluxes would be a bad thing. They're cheap, available in large quantities, and reliable. Sure, they're not IED resistant, but adding bomb proof APCs means your light infantry are now mechanized infantry, with all the logistical hurdles and inertia of such a heavier unit. Toyota War 2 Boogaloo!

@breadenthusiast-rr5vr

10 ай бұрын

In fact, I'd say they *need* their Hiluxes. British Army has a lot of "light role" infantry, or dismounted infantry with straight-up no transports. And that is absolutely ridiculous.

@edsutherland8266

10 ай бұрын

Given the sheer number of Land Rovers, Pinzgauers et al that they use, a fleet of Toyota Hiluxes would be a huge boost to day to day capability. You can also get up-armoured Hiluxes too, from various companies.

@bakersmileyface

10 ай бұрын

It will depend on how they're used. With how easy it is to rapidly deploy mines en masse, as seen in the Ukraine war, the way vehicles that aren't mine resistant are used would matter significantly. Last thing we need is mobile coffins. But these vehicles can still be used.

@gregs7562

Ай бұрын

The decision/competition on which pickup the MoD goes with to replace LR & Pinz will be interesting . Huge contract for someone. Toyota, Nissan, Ford etc

This has been one of the most interesting talks in a long time. Looking forward to your full video on the structure of this battalion.

It looks really like what we already have in the french army (except for the presence of pionners) with heavy machine guns, ATGM and 81mm mortar at the company level and 120mm mortar+reconnaissance at the battalion level However even with it we have 3 infantry platoons in the company

How would this new ten man squad be distributed around the vehicles. I believe that Warrior can take 7 plus vehicle commander, boxer may hold more but I not sure if the seating is being configured for an eight man squad

One of the biggest challenges in FIBUA training is the cost and lack of facilities. Urban warfare is dependent on the ability to shoot through walls, floors and ceilings, as well as creating your own doorways and access points, the complete destruction of entire buildings to improve positions and fields of fire. The use of tunnels and culverts is also vital for fire and manoeuvring, and consequently the destruction of those avenues of approach. That is very expensive to train, and near on impossible from a logistical and health and safety perspective. It's not going to be solved by fiddling with platoon composition.

Immagine a "urban combat analyst" without urban combat experience at all

What a beautiful transition. Good job.

Great lecture/discussion. Thanks.

Would love for you to do a video on the British Army special operations brigade structure of the battalions.

The elephant in the room here is numbers and retention. Add into the mix budgetary constraints it will be interesting to see what will actually happen.

like the section layout but don't like the idea of only 2 platoon and a support weapons platoon. With the casualty rate in urban warfare think its better to have 3 platoons and attach support weapon from the support coy.

@BattleOrder2

10 ай бұрын

I believe the 2 phalanx platoons was mainly to fit within the current manpower of 2 YORKS. The original theoretical design had 3

Kind of reminds me of how British infantry in Northern Ireland worked with the 'bricks'.

Need more like this

One of the big things that could be important is how ai is integrated with unmanned ground systems, you don’t want your vehicles stopping cause comms got disrupted

@Luschiss

10 ай бұрын

Thats True when this systems get‘s hacked like we see it with the drones than it is not that usefull

Aw yeah, one hour of Battle Order 😎

How do you fit a 10-man section in a Boxer?

lots of my regiments footage used here from poland

Any plans to release this on the podcast feed too?

You can learn a lot from the Philippine Scout Rangers on Urban Fighting for they have tested their battle skills on more than five months on the Marawi Siege in the Southern Philippines just recently where the ISIS and the local Maute group and Abusayaf Muslim terrorist team together and tried to declare a Caliphate in the Southern of the Philippines in 2017. One Liuetenant of the Philippine Scout Rangers the Elite force of the Philippine Army described the brutal battle as every inch every room every house is contested and with booby traps everywhere and one thing they have difficulty with is the concrete houses and buildings in the Urban District where it serves as natural protection to the fighters and the rooms in the houses where the enemy is holdout they knock the walls of the rooms so they have 360 mobility in the buildings and houses k!

@HiDragLowSpeed

10 ай бұрын

Before that seige in Marawi, the US and British have already knowledge with regard to how these insurgents work. Fallujah was the test bed when it was a full blown MOUT experience for the big Army/Marines as a whole. The battle in Marawi was basically the same with Fallujah. Fallujah was the catalyst in terms of accelerating TTPs with regards to FIBUA/MOUT. US SF pretty much trained the Philippines with regard to that. Especially the primary MOUT/CQB unit which was the LRC. What the Philippines did that made a lot of people impressed is they did a very good jobdespite technologically they have less compared to first world armies. But the US and Brits definitely have taken action to providing their armed forces comprehensive, standardized capability with MOUT. That is good and definitely will be useful for the allies in the long run.

If the average range of the infantry fight is 50 metres, I’d seriously question putting 81’s as a coy level asset (yes it has more HE and could be used more for Depth targets) It’s got a 80m minimum range (which spreads out the coy and makes it harder to control) and a 35m killing area

@nickwake5484

10 ай бұрын

Why do you imagine a Mortar would not be held back providing support from range as it has been used since inception? Mortars remain one of the quickest and most effective Artillery systems avaialble to a company sized unit. I pity a unit in action with out this.

@michaelmulligan0

10 ай бұрын

@@nickwake5484 if it’s further back it is harder for Coy Comd to control and resupply, I’d argue therefore that potentially makes more sense for 81 to be held centrally (as in stay in Supp Coy) and have 60s in the coy

@andresmartinezramos7513

10 ай бұрын

@@nickwake5484 But then why make it integral to the company instead of concentrating them at battalion?

@clangerbasher

10 ай бұрын

I was thinking about minimum ranges too. I found it odd he was talking about bounds of engagement being 50m and the need for the platoon to stay compact. Then talk about a weapon (120mm) with a minimum range of 100m.

I bloody love jackal vehicles

@flexrecons

10 ай бұрын

Id take an R/WIMIK anyday

Do you have a podcast version of something like this?

Carl Gustav vs Panzerfaust 3 (one is effective against tanks and cheaper), the other is used here

The Brits had an LMG and got rid of it because they deemed it to be as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike. They also had a 60mm mortar at platoon level and got rid of it. With regards to support elements like assault pioneers and MMGs, they could still be in platoons at battalion level for admin and training purposes, perhaps under a staff sergeant or WO1 (rather than an officer), and spread out to the companies for tactical employment.

@HanSolo__

5 ай бұрын

We do these small 61mm mortars but you need it in numbers. You kinda need to put a hand into the pocket and pull such mortar. The same whenever you put a hand into the backpack - the mortar awaits you. All APCs and IFVs keep at least one. You visit the toilet and there is one 61mm in a stool. I know Russians hate this multi-peppering with mortars. God, they hate it beyond imagination.

I think maybe bigger flatter structures with flexibility is key. big teams, with lots of good tools.

Thanks! You're doing great Work!

Can you do a video about urban warfare equipment

Was it trialled in defence as well as offence?

Some ideas to consider: - Add a few loitering ammunition launchers to the M.U.L.E. Loitering drones will give you broader possibilities for retaliation, especially "over the horizon", or into specific vindow turned in a different direction, than your people are. - Tons of cheap and simple killdrones will do better work than one superexpensive and tougher one. Sugesting simple wheeled drones, able to scale (or jump) stairs, with inbuild claymore mine. - Use (as main gun) for bigger UGVs (like Ripsaw M5 is) a recoilless gun (like Carl Gustav). The ammo storage will not be plenty, but even 10 + canon shots will be enough.

@matthiuskoenig3378

10 ай бұрын

The Americans have already stated they plan to mount Raven guns (think modern improved recoiless guns) on lighter vehciles and even have a 105mm raven gun ready for the job.

@Sollapoke

8 күн бұрын

Is the drone you’re talking about just the one from Rainbow Six Siege with an in-built claymore xD ?

Does the LMG gunner and the Sharpshooter also engage in building clearing? If so, do they have access to assault rifles from a platoon weapons locker?

@RobinTheBot

10 ай бұрын

No lmao. What you think they turn around and go back to swap loadouts? Buy a red dot upgrade and a skin 😂? They go with what they've got. Certainly they'll have different jobs, ideally, but they're both carrying guns.

@BattleOrder2

10 ай бұрын

His proposed solution is to adopt an LMG that is more portable for maneuvering in a building, in lieu of the GPMG in the light role mode as is used now, and adopt a separate more capable MMG for sustained fire above section

@189Bearshed

10 ай бұрын

@@BattleOrder2 yeah, but USMC are dumping their SAWs because they are too big and too heavy for room clearing. Ditto a DMR.

@christhorpejunction8982

10 ай бұрын

@@189BearshedBritish army used to do room clearance with the 7.62 L1A1 SLR, that was quite heavy too. (Though they did have sterling smg in the platoon too)

@189Bearshed

10 ай бұрын

@@christhorpejunction8982 I appreciate that. The US used to do it with M1 Garands or 20 inch barrel M16. But that’s not the current trend at all. A unit designed specifically for Urban warfare, I assume, would also see the problem. While both an LMG and DMR would be very useful suppressing a building while entry is made, that leaves only 6 men out of eight to clear it. But only 3 per fire team. So you end up with two 3 man teams, or 3 two man teams, one team made up of members of two different fire teams. Having the full 8 in the building would be a plus, and while a LMG or DMR could cover hallways and entrances, access to shorter lighter weapons would give them four teams of 2 and more flexibly to enter room and clear them. Some British units already have the option to access different weapons at the company or platoon level to customize their needs for a patrol or mission. Taking a GPMG instead of a SAW, or not taking any MG’s for more DMR’s. Doesn’t seem like a stretch for an urban unit to do something similar.

What both on underground cyber warfare capability for urban environment?

So what I'm wondering is which countries do currently have units designed for urban warfare, if any. It seems to be a thing that comes up consistently in warfare and is solved through all kinds of attachments, but I'm kind of surprised if there already aren't dedicated units for it.

@Gilberto90

10 ай бұрын

Israel are probably the most prominent.

@nosamsemaj9150

10 ай бұрын

How about Russia, who’ve been actually doing it (not with blanks and paint balls) for over a year now. And very well.

@_Cunning_Linguist

10 ай бұрын

French Foreign Legion, 2REP 1st company is a long-standing urban warfare unit

@immortallvulture

9 ай бұрын

@@nosamsemaj9150I’d question your use of ‘very well’ when describing russias performance in urban operations. The two most prominent in the current conflict are bakhmut and Mariupol, both of which were drawn out affairs characterised by heavy reliance by Russia on heavy artillery assets and both reportedly resulted in heavy casualties for the Russian army and its aligned paramilitary forces.

@devilin100

8 ай бұрын

Canadian light infantry maintained Coy specifically to exploit the Mech Brigade groups limitation in urban/complex terrain. Light infantry battle order is pretty well in-line with the Phalanx. USMC were, at the Coy level very well suited to urban operations being a resilient, infantry centric organisation exceedingly capable of bringing relevant systems to the fight. At this point they bring/brought so much ass to a fight any lose in capability may just not matter. Brazil seems to favour being good at urban warfare as it translates to how close in the jungle can be. UK has the biggest MOUT training center in the world, 30,000 Acres. They had a counter insurgency warfare center in N Ireland for a while. In '46 France built a facility for urban warfare and built a second in 1997. UK/Anglo forces used the facilities for like 20 years as well.

I noticed in the clips that flagging is not so much strict in this. Did anything change?

Not sure how cool it is that he's giving this info away lol

@immortallvulture

9 ай бұрын

This is only an experimental format and not part of current British army doctrine.

I dnt think it will work. Urban warfair like clearing buildings you be looking to expecting at least 25% casualties. I didn't hear the guy mentioned anything about additional medical support ! At the Section patoon level. He only talked about chipy medical support. The PL commander being the (rock star) will not work !. 2 LT the most junior officer with the least amount of experience being a (rockstar) no chance. Man power/recruitment and retention in the British army has been an issue for a number of years now and is still an issue to this day. Making the platoon size bigger will be unsustainable. In addition with female infantry members and also trans members a lot of them being undeployable. Most leading power militaries have done research and the pregnancy rate of female soldiers on deployment is very high. When I was in the British army infantry we were told that there was nothing small unit about urban warfare minimum battalian level !

I wonder if these guys have looked at the urban fighting in the philippines against isis a few years back as research looked incredibly difficult

As IFV’s are having trouble carrying 8 troops, why in hell would you seek to increase section numbers back to the problem point for previous for IFV’s. 2 IFV required to move a section when the new IFV’s can now carry a 8 man section.

@HanSolo__

5 ай бұрын

We will travel on top of BMP-1s cuz we don't have anything from this century ready in any numbers here in Poland. Maybe a dozen of Borsuk tracked IFV. 8x8 Rosomak we have more than a thousand of it. But, man, it is a fat ass machine. 120mm RAK 8x8 mortar is even bigger than that.

I would say that because of the global urbanization more and more people live in cities, and that is the reason why it is a good idea to invest in urban warfare capabilities. Further, i can advice a sledgehammer, and a staff to get through walls and create firing ports in buildings. Sandbags; taking a large rucksack full of sacks to fill with sand is a good idea to fortify a building. Regular bullets can get through walls easily. Both the sledgehammer and staff, and the sandbags are seen in Syria during the war against Assad. Good results were noted. Explosives to blast holes through walls. You don't want to use the street if you don't have to. Grappling hooks and telescoping ladders to get onto roofs and saws, sledgehammer, or explosives to get an entrance to a building and clear it from the top down (which is said to be better (in the manuals)). Carpets or sheets hanging on ropes to block the view through the street. Actually one not described in manuals is: the capability to dig tunnels underground. Having a team that can dig tunnels from one building to another like the people digging for electricity, water, and gas in cities are the people that can make these tunnels. If a conflict around a city takes a long time, you can get one of these tunnel boring machines that digs sewers can be very helpful to get under buildings and blow them up from underneath. That method was also used in the war in Syria, and has had good results. The ability to create living space underground is very valuable and has been used in Syrian urban conflict and has caused groups to keep holding on to parts of cities (Idlib for example). Further in some urban warfare manuals portable or vehicle mounted flamethrowers and gatlingguns like the m61 vulcan were mentioned. Also the thermobaric launchers used by the Russians were seen as a very valuable tool to clear buildings. I am sure that if these methods and tools are used in urban warfare, you will get the upper hand. But urban warfare doctrine has to be used, as well as all the methods described. We have not seen the full potential of urban warfare(recorded) in Ukraine. In Syria it seems that there were some very good methods employed (and recorded), lessons should be learned. Greetings, Jeff

Will there be 2 lance corporals per section to lead each fire team then?

@BattleOrder2

10 ай бұрын

The way I read the preliminary proposal, possibly one team is led by the 2IC who is a LCpl, but i think that sort of personnel management stuff is a later problem

Future Urban Combat Kit In Trials. Just about sums the modern military up.

Brittan should be a decade ahead , Should be world leaders in urban troop manouvers , Armored troop carriers , patrol tactical moves and leadership, ..

It seems to me that the presentation indicated a much larger technological impact at lower levels of organization. Which means a greater level of service support required. The war in Ukraine seems to indicate a process of movement through forested lines in order to seize built up strong points. Is this sudden emphasis on Urban training and organization reflect this reality?

WOOO

If I had a dollar for every time that man said "aaaauuuuummmm", I'd be freaking rich.

Before we put it into NATO standard. Let's sort out standard batteries in a few sizes.

Ukraine war, Sudan War and Palestina war reminds us how important to have vertical protection against drone or swarm of drones to armour unit or anything else. It yet anticipated with more effective way

The more things change the more they stay the same…..it used to be a 10 man section in the 70s & 80s

Woah cool 😎

How about we worry less about becoming urban warfare specialists and start producing more than 6 days worth of ammunition. Might be a start.

Israel is already fielding small explosive drones which navigate the inside of buildings.

All a bit moot unless the abysmal manpower levels in the British Army are increased significantly.

coming soon to a city near you

What about a Section Medic?

some points for your man first point - 2 Yorks are lizards so your data is practically worthless 2. - Copehill down is F-ing tiny how your going to influence Army urban doctrine based on a area of about 300m is anyones guess, needs to be some serious investment in a substantial training area in which a whole battle group would operate and be tested in the confines of an urban enviorment. 3. - idk who you been talking too but a section commander should'nt be clearing rooms his job in a building is command and control - In urban as a section commander I run as third man in my section assigning doors and threats its then in the Rfns control how they clear the room and ask for assets from me to enable them, they need extra manpower or want no further action until they clear - my mind is on the threats ahead and how far I am willing to exploit before I require relief in place the following section should be providing a link man to pass information back and the commander of that can inform PL Commader of whatever info he sapposidly needs im not gonna be on my comms to him im busy and thats dumb. - in a building the section should not be split into fire teams, its command and bods, Im grabbing who ever is available not on an immediate threat to be pushed forward to a door grated weapon system can be a motivator but that comes down to training or preplanning. My opinion on the layout of the section in a traditional sense is Section commander Charlie with 3 Rfn, 2ic Delta with 3 Rfn and then a fire support ancillary with GPMG and Sharpshooter who sit where I decide situation and ground dependant whether that's two in one fire team split between or as their own element, capitalising of their range and firepower. 4. GPMG will never be replaced/ should never be it is an absolute force multiplier but sheer incompetence of junior commanders and lack of understanding of its capabilities by senior ranks has seen a steep decline in training and building of confidence by its operators means it is relegated to section dribblers instead of those with the ability to use it to its full might, I would 100% encourage its inclusion in a section during urban operations.

Is one of those sections pioneers?

You need numbers in urban operations to systematically clear buildings rapidly, gain a foot hold and provide overwatch whilst other companies' eschelon through the flanks

No cam cream ???

wo

I’d argue that light armour is required for resupply, CASEVAC etc

Dont shoulder the rifle when doing urban, have the stock in the centre of the chest

@Sollapoke

8 күн бұрын

Who are you talking to?? These aren’t airsofters in the video they’re soldiers in the British Army. Now I have no idea what experience you have in urban combat but I’m assuming you don’t know as much as the lad in charge of training these soldiers so maybe hush it.

@connorlee5873

7 күн бұрын

@Sollapoke considering I done my training in winnie Hill twice and was the best section out of two plts and wad taught to not shoulder the rifle but have it in the centre I think I might know. The reason is there is more plate at the front than the side so more chance of taking a hit under the arm if you stand side on

@Sollapoke

7 күн бұрын

@@connorlee5873 I know that there is an advantage to shooting with the plate facing the enemy and I don’t have nearly as much experience as you from the sounds of it however I still think that is the British Army are teaching their soldiers to perform CQB with a shouldered rifle then they must have a reason for it.

ngl i expected this guy to be a mouse

Why Javelins for urban combat? Surely NLAW's are more suitable for urban warfare. NLAW's are cheaper,, more portable, safer to fire from within buildings, and have a superior minimum-range fire capability. Javelins will be severely limited at close range.

@nbr1rckr

10 ай бұрын

As far as being safer to fire in buildings, both NLAW and Javelin launch from the tube in a manner that doesn't produce the backblast of an AT-4 or Carl Gustav. The real issue with Javelin is fleeting opportunities since it requires about 30 seconds to lock onto a target, that is to say unable to be fired at a moment's notice, the range is kind of irrelevant if you can't manage to successfully lock on to a target that's trying to not present itself. That said, it's not like they're going to bring Javelin into a situation where they're well within the minimum distance, they don't carry them around willy nilly without consideration for fields of fire. If they don't need them they won't bring them. They'll be allocated in a way that fits into the unit's plan of attack or defence. Both present their strengths and weaknesses and the flexibility of having both is preferable than eliminating one or the other. Average engagement distance doesn't mean every single fight takes place at that prescribed distance across the entire platoon. The CLU for Javelin is also good for target acquisition anyway, so it's not like the platform is completely useless in an urban setting. Screening actions still matter in an urban environment which is what Javelin is arguably better at than close-contact assaults which is why they're not being allocated at the squad level in this organisation.

A jak wyjedziecie za miasto to co? :D

Not what you think they intend to use these against British SERFS

Increase training allotments of ammunition 10 fold and make sure your soldiers are at peak cardiovascular fitness and teach all soldiers to be leaders. That is all,

Phayylanx

lmfao where the h*ck did the nafo rantsona come from?

“Urban warfare” eh ? When ? After the food riots start ?

Lots of ideas. But in UK no adequate funding, no critical mass of forces, minimal ammunition, and no casualty replacements. And we don't want to join the meat grinder wars. Our role should be to provide the sophisticated fires, intelligence and surveillance, , air power and naval assets - with meaningful weapons stocks. Not to retain an infantry heavy army to justify cap badges and an inflated officer corp.

Me thinks the formation should be similar to 3 sections, fire support section and a separate drone support group as drone group will essential be the brains of the platoon and some fire support. If one section is annihilated , suppressed , one is then limited to only one other option which is a big fail. The section number of 10 is good but manpower is alway essential . Platoon closer to 40 men much better

Are you not packing in a bit tight? IED will take a whole section.

..good concept, half ass implementation, increase maneuver units to three platoons, historically combat experience shows that urban warfare saps manpower astronomically therefore have reserves be organic.

Always nice to see a military preparing to fight its own population in the near future.

@grahammoore8967

9 ай бұрын

Is that a poor joke? This training is so that our army can fight enemy soldiers in towns, not thousands or millions of our own civilians in our own towns.

Another step in Americanising the British Army?

@Louis-ej1lx

10 ай бұрын

This is nothing like the US army. In fact it’s moving further away from the US army.

@christopherwood9009

10 ай бұрын

@Louis-ej1lx I've done plenty research into how the us army works. In the US "squad", there's a commander. Beneith him, there are various teams, roughly with 2-5 men each with their own leaders. Look at the 1956 US Army Rifle Squad onwards. The next thing we'd be doing is making sure the Section IC is a Sergeant, and the Fireteam commanders are Corporals. This is sort of like how the US Army looked like after WW1. Then we'll be making the Section IC a Staff Sergeant, and team leaders Sergeants. Oh wait, this is exactly how the US Army squad is nowadays. Funny that!

I think uk army can keep the old 8 man section. Here is my concept you just give the recon drone to the grenade launcher guy and give the loitering ammunition drone to DMR. Since grenade launcher can’t hit so far they should have time to do recon on drone, with the DMR already has long range capabilities he can send out loitering ammunition flying on top the target follow by recon drone laser targeting or by laser link when flying a high arc.

@jayphillips4167

10 ай бұрын

You probably play too much battlefield. How is a grenadier or marksman going to do their jobs while operating a drone?

@RobinTheBot

10 ай бұрын

​@@jayphillips4167for real.

@sidewalks29

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think they will operating the drone they just need to carry it and know how to launcher and know how to use it manually. In the battlefield someone with the UGV team will use them well than two man, since the ugv can power AI and long range antenna for the forward group to knowing the enemy.

@sidewalks29

10 ай бұрын

This drone control by UGV and Man idea a coming from my experience with playing parrot mambo drone and the parrot mambo controller. They both need to link to your phone and you also can use phone not controller to fly it, so I think why not the soldiers phones link into the UGV first just give the AI a controller and you still can see what happens in your phone or just let the AI in the UGV tell your what happens.

@jayphillips4167

10 ай бұрын

@@sidewalks29 I don't really understand what you are talking about now. My question is why is the duty of drone operating being put onto the grenadier and marksman when you can have two dedicated drone operators?

British Army wants to dominate urban warfare? A rifle that could be fired left-handed would be handy.... (sorry I'm just salty)

@astratan2238

10 ай бұрын

It can be shouldered left for shorter ranges whilst still holding it in a right handed manner, to be fair. The height of the backup sight means the rifle itself is quite low. Not ideal but better than often claimed.

The lack of funding and manpower in the entire British military means that the British can think what they like, but they won't be able to operate anywhere outside of the UK with out massive US support. It may be arguable that it would be dangerous to use the British military in any large scale operations overseas.

Always seems to break a basic principle 3:1 rule

I wonder if the increased training also has to do with the coming social and economic instability. I guess they expect to be fighting in built up areas for a reason, and the implication is disturbing. Soldier, terrorist, insurgent, freedom fighter are just based on perspective.

Why are there so many non brits in the british army?

@Sollapoke

8 күн бұрын

Ever heard of the commonwealth?

Wow ,a lot of misinformation about what firefights are like. Especially the urban fight. He passes a lot off as fact, when it's really just speculation.

With totally open borders, urban combat may happen close to home. Let us pray it does not occur.

The Brits are always looking to reduce their budgets,

So they have moved to a US Army style rifle squad

@BattleOrder2

10 ай бұрын

Well they’re testing it, they haven’t moved to it wholesale at this time

@Spud500

10 ай бұрын

@@BattleOrder2 wonder how that is going to play out, they might move to the maximi from the FN MAG or Minimi

Totally distracted by this bloke's accent, the hell's he from?

@dominicreid4gg.90

10 ай бұрын

Sounds Irish

@matviytkaczyk941

10 ай бұрын

Northern Irish but has probably lived the south west (where dark are based) for a while,

@brokenglass9814

10 ай бұрын

@@matviytkaczyk941 I had it the other way. I was thinking bristol-raised ulster-living. Interesting mix either way!

Urban combat, who are they expecting to fight in these urban areas, their own population, what about real field combat like we are seeing in the Ukraine, Nato trained troops are not doing too well there

@questionmaker5666

10 ай бұрын

Considering that the NATO trained troops only received a sped up programme and are fighting an entrenched enemy, all the while without air supremacy. They've actually done quite well, all considered

Everything looks awesome until it's a real war

The British army is too small to fight any real war. They could train more troops in world war 3 though I'm guessing.

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Given the British propensity to economy how do you get 10 fully equipped blokes in a”Warrior”. Because you can guarantee theirs never enough suitable vehicles.

@zapbrannigan9770

10 ай бұрын

Warrior is out and boxer is in. Also this will be decade or more away

Staurt just lost his job

@Sollapoke

8 күн бұрын

Can confirm he still has his job.

There is nothing elite about the Yorks, one of the worst regiments I’ve ever worked with, elite units don’t use A2s

Lessons from Ukraine are coming in for effect...

@mikechedzoy4866

10 ай бұрын

Looking at the footage from that conflict it's all drones and artillery. The men rarely get close enough to shoot at each other. Gun battles are happening on the fringes where defences are weak, but most of the losses are from shelling. Eyes on the battlefield 24/7 with thermal cameras and as soon as you are spotted boom. This is a new era of warfare.