Why would you fight for a country when you don't feel it is your own? Why would you fight for a country that you can't even afford to buy a house in? Why would you fight for a country where your government views you as an income source and nothing else.

@brianmurray1395

5 ай бұрын

No you’re talking!! Spread it around.

@bluephoenix6394

5 ай бұрын

I would not

@buuuuuuuuuuuuuu

5 ай бұрын

absolutely fu** this whole thing. its total nonsense

@teik4118

5 ай бұрын

They will force you to fight. Age old tactics of persuasion that previously worked and wether you believe it or not based on globalisation, will likely still work. This is the brutal reality.

@Steveb7281

5 ай бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'd happily fight to change that first

Politicians need to go on the front lines first

@user-bq9wy9kx3y

5 ай бұрын

💯

@TZingh11985

5 ай бұрын

Politicians with their family and extended family.

@user-iq4ko7kk1d

5 ай бұрын

Right, fight your own battles.

@aynos629

5 ай бұрын

They will, because I can't see the youngsters of today going to fight

@user-we5mi6zl2s

5 ай бұрын

@@aynos629 why should they? What future do many of them have?

No-one in the right mind would fight for this country, unless the politicians were on the front line 😊

@newjak10

5 ай бұрын

If that attitude prevails in the West we should get used to living an oppressed life under the thumb of Russia or China inside the next 5 years.

@bobbadham261

5 ай бұрын

Wld NEVER fight for overpaid narcasists causing the F-ing war in the first place!!

@milentopalov6298

5 ай бұрын

To many poo fs

@ThePedroski007

5 ай бұрын

You’d be surprised. I remember the falklands war. Careers office were turning them away.

@milentopalov6298

5 ай бұрын

@@ThePedroski007 Different times probably ?.., but generally hope we stay away from war conflicts! Let’s make Love , not war!

People don’t want to fight for corrupt governments our own too

@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit

4 ай бұрын

even if someone was fair i woiuld not go not even for fair government in wars never no not even for corrupt one no no no

@Brian-om2hh

4 ай бұрын

You don't fight for a government. You fight to defend your nation, and the freedoms and rights you enjoy. Which, incidentally, others before you have fought for, in case you hadn't realised....

@patriciapresley8484

3 ай бұрын

So very true ❤

@RonnieWilliams-cg3uv

2 ай бұрын

Hello

The best comment yet, let me repeat it: "I would rather die fighting this government than die fighting for it"

@martysmith5260

5 ай бұрын

That's pathetic. You think you got it bad? How would you like the Russians or Chinese Communists to take control of your country? BTW, if NATO goes to war, Britain goes to war. You better be prepared, and you are not.

@thescoobienoob7716

5 ай бұрын

You don't have to fight for your government fight for your way of life fight for the freedoms we've come accustomed to fight for a peaceful future for your family there are many reasons to defend this island and yes this government hasn't done the best by the people but at the same time things could be worse you'll realise what you have once it's all taken away. Now that's the thing to think about.

@dastiffmeisterman

5 ай бұрын

@@thescoobienoob7716 We are not free we are enslaved by a rogue government. You enjoy paying billions in interest via taxation on debt which was created out of thin air to a bank which the government owns?

@AI-Records24

5 ай бұрын

@@thescoobienoob7716they have more freedom over there in you know where than we do here. We are over legislated to the point you can’t breathe without being fined or needing a licence.

@AntiSepticUK

5 ай бұрын

🎉 The original comment is absolutely the best comment 🎉

Good luck in expecting the UK general public to fight wars to defend the country! In past wars we knew what we were fighting for in terms of preservation of our way of life, culture, democracy and against an evil regime. Now our own leaders are an evil regime, democracy is dead when they ignore manifesto promises, change leader and give important roles like foreign secretary to unelected individuals. Why would the working class volunteer to defend this country when they are treated badly in peacetime. I've no interest in helping already rich individuals and corporations get their hands on another countries resources under the disguise of defending the UK. Go and ask the migrants to defend the UK.

@Ukipmiddleleft

5 ай бұрын

Spot on

@eileenjames9929

5 ай бұрын

Well said

@cherryadeyinka6814

5 ай бұрын

Well said 👋👋

@Feyra.z

5 ай бұрын

Could not have said it better myself.

@kvntsuay

5 ай бұрын

completely agree

'First thing is we have to be absolutely secure at home.' With 10 million extra foreigners living here since 2000, and 9.6% of youths of the Middle Eastern religion. The present generation of political people has failed utterly in the first requirement of government. All of this man's words are hot air.

@Socks170

5 ай бұрын

What does religion have to do with security at home? You do realize that the British Raj, which was comprised of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh was a core part of WW1 and WW2? Millions of soldiers fought for this country then, and there was no problem right?

@liberaltears9192

5 ай бұрын

@@Socks170no you weren’t foreigners trying to take credit for what European natives achieved again

@liberaltears9192

5 ай бұрын

@@Socks170the Europeans were the most deaths in all of ww2 and ww1 go back to where your from

@Socks170

5 ай бұрын

@@liberaltears9192 European nations were built on the labour, and spoils taken from Asia, Africa, Middle East and the Americas... Or are we going to pretend like colonialism didn't occur?

@user-qj8gn5nl4e

5 ай бұрын

"European natives". Well, seems you really do learn something new every day.

why would anyone want to fight a war caused by egotistical politicians?

@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit

4 ай бұрын

is not the ego , is the nature in them which cause war , nature is criminal look in wilderness to see how nature alwas bring wars between animals , nature is cruel

@Brian-om2hh

4 ай бұрын

And you somehow don't think that question wasn't asked by the hundreds of thousands of young men who fought in the last war?

@heezy8178

4 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh maybe it was,..it doesnt have to be the same,..war has no winners,..its just the elite who fund it that end up making profits

@VictoriaB85

4 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh They didn't have the internet back then. The propaganda was everywhere and a lot of the young men believed they were doing the right thing.

@MMCV963

4 ай бұрын

​@@Brian-om2hhcant compare back then to now, we can see how incompetent governments are online and how they dont give a damn about the average person.

Give your head a shake. Russia are not our enemies. Politicians are our enemies. Peace is what the UK want.

@martysmith5260

5 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the Ukrainians wanted peace up until they got invaded. In fact, when the US warned them Russia was serious about invading, Zelensky blew us off as "alarmists." When I was in the Army, Saudi Arabia told us Iraq wasn't serious about invading Kuwait. America didn't "understand" Arab culture - it was just bluster. If you don't prepare for war, your logic seems to be there won't be one. SURPRISE! The enemy gets a vote too!!!

@crowbar9566

5 ай бұрын

Vladimir Putin enjoys 70 per cent approval ratings among the general Russian population and 60 per cent of Russians approve of the Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine. Don't assume they think like us, from my visits to Russia I learnt they absolutely do not.

@VictoriaB85

5 ай бұрын

Well said!

@Heardbydeaf

5 ай бұрын

t.rrorist from r.SS.a are so active today...sad....

@christopherlees1134

5 ай бұрын

And among the politicians, there's a certain perfidious ground that is the true locus of most of the corruption - a group not loyal to the country.

I would rather die fighting this government than dying for this government.

@silentvoiceinthedark5665

5 ай бұрын

I am a yank, feel the same way here.

@communitygardener17

5 ай бұрын

Putin thanks you.

@chadvader974

5 ай бұрын

you are fighting for your country and for your freedom not for the government.

@tom-kz9pb

5 ай бұрын

If you think that you would be happier living under a Putin-dominated world, you would be a fool. Russian war-mongers have spoken of nuking the U.K. and turning it into a "Martian landscape". Are you a paid Putin troll, spreading propaganda to undermine his opponent? Your government should investigate you, to be certain. That is what wartime is like, my friend, so watch your mouth.

@rugslash6680

5 ай бұрын

​@@chadvader974That bs doesn't work anymore

Economic fodder in peacetime. Cannon fodder in wartime. And when the guns fall silent you fight for a standard of living. Let the rich fight, they are your enemies in peace and war.

@paulmcgreevy3011

5 ай бұрын

The rich are poor people who worked hard.

@user-we5mi6zl2s

5 ай бұрын

@@paulmcgreevy3011 establishment rich. The owners not successful workers.

@graemes52

5 ай бұрын

Nonsense, switch off your Masonic media and get a clue son. @@paulmcgreevy3011

@iRelevant.47.blacklisted

5 ай бұрын

The rich plan on chilling in their bunkers in New Zealand until the smoke clears. So much for patriotism.

Millions of guys will not fight for this corrupt country including myself

@tommychappell6359

5 ай бұрын

Ultimately though this is on people who didn't fight against politicians sooner to make a better system (without them). but then the damage was already done because none of them were beleived to make new laws in first place.

@akeelyaqub2538

5 ай бұрын

​@@tommychappell6359EXACTLY. The UK public needs to stop acting like them sitting back and doing nothing to stop the corruption in government isnt A MAJOR reason why the country is in tatters today. Corrupt politicans will do what they do, but the people ALLOWED it to happen and besides some angry tweets, didnt do a single thing to resist any of it.

@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit

4 ай бұрын

i like your cowardness bro really

@Brian-om2hh

4 ай бұрын

Being able to choose won;t be one of the options. It wasn't on the last occasion Britain had National Service, back in the 50's and early 60's, and it probably won't be this time if they implement it.

@garylyall811

4 ай бұрын

@@jamiem1847 exactly

Sorry General but you’re on your own .Not because people are cowards but have seen the sacrifices made in two wars given away .I ask you if they could see this country now ..would they have given their lives ?

@myeye.6462

5 ай бұрын

NO!!!

@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima

5 ай бұрын

The US backed two coups in Ukraine - 2004 & 2014; it backed ethno-fascist groups who carried out 1/4 of the holocaust in WWII; it backed these fascist groups through Project Aerodynamic and Project Icon from 1940s till 1990. This is exposed in a FOIA (Freedom of lnformatlon request) release of 3,800 CIA documents. Then according to Ast Sec Victoria Nuland declared publically at the National Press Club, the US spent over $5 billion on regime change in Ukraine from 1990 to early 2014... That includes the two coups and more backing for fascist groups.

@iwilson227

5 ай бұрын

Would they f#ck.

@shamster7182

5 ай бұрын

My granddads , both WW2 fighters, would be shocked and appalled to see the disgrace our nation has become, taken over and ruined by Marxist wokism, and mass immigration of the poor and low skilled.

@RyanBrown-nx8dw

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

Rishis wife probably has investments in defence companies.

@thebouncerbros

5 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t surprise me

@metalicminer6231

5 ай бұрын

Well the Royal family definitely have..

@jimbo5973

5 ай бұрын

Rishi is a tool of the davos group etc. A globalist as in Cameron, Hunt and all his other despots. There is a reason they cleared out most of the actual 'Conservatives' from power and the Party in general. They have an agenda to enforce on us.

@mathewsgeorge8512

5 ай бұрын

Spot on , She is Mega Rich for defence business :)

@MaboPete

5 ай бұрын

There's no doubt the governments will make money out if it - they always do.

If the UK Government can guarantee pensions for any surviving soldiers then maybe ill go but the government abandoned every single soldier that saved it the last 2 times while MPs and lords was eating pies young lads was dying for nothing.

@coreyjennings4910

5 ай бұрын

And you think the same won’t happen again?

"Imagine a king who fights his own battles.. wouldn't that be a sight?" - Achilles.

@ethanbrogger7487

5 ай бұрын

That's from some movie made like ten years ago. Most Kings fought their own battles

@hbsong9964

5 ай бұрын

@@ethanbrogger7487 you've missed the point... Never mind..

@itsjustchris92

2 ай бұрын

@@ethanbrogger7487most kings like 700 years ago? Yeah thats all battles huh? Now whos watching to many movies? 😅

Also the veterans are not well looked after that’s why the lack of interest to join the military is higher then the police. Veterans have been abandoned how can us the younger generation be encouraged to join when majority of the ex servicemen are living in deplorable conditions.

@LordOfLight

5 ай бұрын

I think you don't understand the situation. We're talking about mobilising for a potential war. You understand what a war is, right?

@WasiuAlatise

5 ай бұрын

GET THE MUSLIMS BLACKS CHINESE POLISH ROMANIANS& OTHER CULTURES WHO LOVE THE UK SO MUCH TO FIGHT 13000 EX SERVICEMAN HOMELESS

@terjeoseberg990

5 ай бұрын

@@LordOfLight, What he’s saying is that they’re not going to volunteer, even if there’s a war.

@danielosullivan7940

5 ай бұрын

Well I’m sure the vast majority of potential recruits would now rather fight for the country than be living with the cost of living crisis 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

@patclelland1279

5 ай бұрын

the way our veterans are treated can you wonder why they don't want to join the forces

Before you call on the public, please make sure that you go the front lines first, yourself, then YOUR children before you ask the British public to send theirs

@SnackAttack6

5 ай бұрын

Love your point 👌

@FreeFlyerUk

5 ай бұрын

And, in Privates uniforms

@davidpearn2484

5 ай бұрын

Well said sir 👏.

@dessmith7658

5 ай бұрын

I'm not on your side

@gendalfgray7889

5 ай бұрын

Will britain or other country of europe force military draft, like russia did?

They are already at war Against their own people Good sense and sustainability.'

@markeh1971

2 ай бұрын

Hi, the whole world recycles everything, back to magma and then out again. That is what I call recycling! Take care M

How can you defend a country by leaving it. Sounds to me that politicians have lost the country and now there looking to get rid of some of the peasants before they are held accountable for what they have done.

If they introduce mandatory conscription they better start building a lot of prisons.

@turbo-charged-v8341

5 ай бұрын

Millions of us will refuse mate. We're not lambs to the slaughter

@crayontom9687

5 ай бұрын

Bone spurs innit

@Tommonius

5 ай бұрын

maybe we will get cushy hotels like the illegals got on our expense.

@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219

5 ай бұрын

You'll never guess where Russia is getting their conscripts from...

@DrBenson21

5 ай бұрын

@@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219 That's actually a very good point.

The way our vets are treated i wouldn't wonder if they get few volunteers to sign up.....especially when refugees are given better living conditions, it's a disgusting situation.

@MrJoannio

5 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you plus with our government making hundreds of squaddies redundant how do they think they are going to get them back

@mikehutchison4892

5 ай бұрын

Makes you wonder who voted for them,doesn’t it ? Intelligent people who know a liar when they hear them,or fools ,like Neil.

@neilgroves534

5 ай бұрын

@@mikehutchison4892 You don't get out much do you?

@Brian-om2hh

4 ай бұрын

They won't be *asking* for volunteers. On the last occasion Britain had National Service, back in the 50's and early 60's, it was compulsory. You had *no* choice..... You did your 2 year stint.

@markeh1971

2 ай бұрын

@@mikehutchison4892 Hi had this discussion with my brother, we all knew what Boris was but people chose him with all his faults, the current bunch were put in power by the party machine not even the members wanted them. Now you know why the Tories will fail in a big way at the next election, and why it seams that they are “fiddling” while Rome burns. No election date while we wast time not building up the Armed forces and preparing the Uk in case it all goes bad. Take care M

Remember people "no Soldiers No war"

The PM is a fool ... so are the British people for letting this go on....

Message to the UK Government, "Don't Burn Down My House, and then Tell Me I must Protect it's Ashes!"

The Governments over past few years have more or less been telling British people our flag is offensive our way of life is frowned on our veterans treated abysmal! So you wonder why no one is prepared to fight for the Establishment .Im more bothered about WEF than Russia.

Politicians and super-rich's sons/daughters to sign up first...."enemies ' will become friends in no time

To all the sheep's come on lads your up now fight for country who's MPs are lineing there pockets with your hard earned money. We will all clap for you on Thursdays 👍

"Your country needs You!" If, and only if you survive the war, you can live anywhere in the UK provided it's on the streets.

@anglerfish1001

5 ай бұрын

And then get a court summons in twenty years for a war crime.

@emmasayers7576

5 ай бұрын

Unless you're in a tent...

@tommychappell6359

5 ай бұрын

Im SO SICK of this world. and everyone in it.

I do hope all the newly arriving immigrants will be fully represented in a call up along with all minorities and woman. I would hate them to be discriminated against

@anjurkrishnan7831

5 ай бұрын

An excellent point, but the question is "can you trust the huge muslim population in your country"?

@stevencornish3188

5 ай бұрын

They would take over as all the bits fought abroad!

@Safsbmwlife

5 ай бұрын

​@@stevencornish3188 damn you figured out our plan, we secretly waiting in the shadows 😜

@melvinplant8637

5 ай бұрын

Get IMMIGRANTS TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY ARE YOU KIDDING.

@hadesium

5 ай бұрын

​@@Safsbmwlife If and when russian boots are in UK what would you do? Are you going to run back to pakistan/india?

Dear England. I'm from Republic of Ireland. I'm here saying to you that You are not Ready for war with any countries. Especially After Brexit. Stop Fighting a war that you don't need too with the money you no longer have. 1000 friends zero Enemies = the best Policies

it was very intense reading the comments. wow! no judgement of those comments at all. very revealing and informative. i appreciate your words viewers. from a former Brit, living in Canada now.

We're short of soldiers, we're also short of doctors, nurses, dentists, care workers, social workers, teachers, fruit pickers, judges, affordable homes, what's most important right now?

@Dingbat-tb5wz

5 ай бұрын

If you're under attack, soldiers, no question. If there's good reason to believe you'll be under attack tomorrow, also soldiers. All the doctors, nurses etc won't stop an invading army. Try thinking instead of indulging your need to be cool.

@hdk11

5 ай бұрын

Nothing more important than the defence of our country

@DaleDrennan-yp1zz

5 ай бұрын

Defence is get a grip

@Truth-And-Freedom

5 ай бұрын

Id rather fight my own corrupt government than anyone else so ..... Id rather love under Putin than our bunch of wrong uns

@Truth-And-Freedom

5 ай бұрын

​@@hdk11what are you on about? Protect our child abuser corrupt government?? Why ? Id rather love under Putin than our bunch of wrong in government

Why would I fight for an economic zone that doesn’t even recognise me as indigenous despite my family being here since 1500?

@LordLorenzo834

5 ай бұрын

Stop being vague, who are you

@mmmoroi

5 ай бұрын

Spot on

@beltempest4448

5 ай бұрын

Not enough time to be indigenous.

@MoeLeicester

5 ай бұрын

@@beltempest4448 But jamal and muhammed are just as British as us right?

@villhelm

5 ай бұрын

I can trace my family back 1200 years and it goes back much further than records as my DNA will attest but apparently there’s no such thing as a native Brit.

this is not 1939 - 1941 Britain anymore. I have, after listening to various accounts from that time, wanted to feel the camaraderie of a nation on the same page. Why does it take a crisis? I look forward to centuries of harmony.

@tommychappell6359

4 ай бұрын

Simple. Cause we don't want war. And I don't want to die young. Why should people have luxury of going into their 70's when I die at 30 years of age?

"important that it doesn't scare people" - so Times Radio choses a subject title to scare people

In 1914 young men were naive about going to war. Not so now.

@christinehomer2185

5 ай бұрын

They were patriots what have they got to be patriotic about now.They have given our country away already to Islam.

@daze507

5 ай бұрын

That's why old school dictatorships could not work anymore, now we are in a different kind of dictatorships, we call them modern democracies. Orwell understood very well what was about to come.

@motiyoanes733

5 ай бұрын

No one is going now😂😂

@billrankin

5 ай бұрын

In 1914 we had a lovely country full of decent Christian people and a country to be proud of, now we have a country we’re being English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh makes you a second class citizen put last in everything. Our government hates white people and bends over backwards for any 3rd world import and puts them first for everything. So I suggest these non white arrivals carry on be first in line to be cannon fodder as it would unfair to of me to take the place of one of these poor people

@ValMartinIreland

5 ай бұрын

Correct and right. Stay at home. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYOHsLOvqrfLndo.html

The arms industry has a right to defend its profits.

@bobkelly3162

5 ай бұрын

😂

@jamesgreenldn

5 ай бұрын

Will someone spare a thought for Lockheed Martin and all the arms dealers?!

@frankraw9991

5 ай бұрын

Lucid statement, Mark. Especially if you work for the arms industry, or have money invested in it.

@H-G89

5 ай бұрын

Lockheed lives matter!

@OhYeah32

5 ай бұрын

Typical lefty comment. Perhaps your snowflake kids will be in the front line

Are we not forgetting a little detail? In case of a nuclear war, does it really matter how big an army is?

@zetor118118

5 ай бұрын

Your spot on !

@Username-lw4mi

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct, any major war will quickly go nuclear people are thinking about making parallels with 1939 to 1945 I think we have moved along a lot , it will be short lived and very destructive

Sillly uk do you have any idea what u getting into

@wheeIz

2 ай бұрын

As if you Irish have any idea

@Irish780

2 ай бұрын

@@wheeIz russia and China just backed up iran today 😳

Uk people will not go along with this

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

5 ай бұрын

Why not, they went along with brexit after all.

@idlewild073

5 ай бұрын

​@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 good

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

5 ай бұрын

@@CheapaschipsCampingChann-sr9md Yeah they did that during ww2 and you still don't want them here so why should they protect specimens like you?

@farazmunir6553

5 ай бұрын

Good answer👍​@@mobsiesixsixsix9785

@revivaleroshbz1651

5 ай бұрын

​@@CheapaschipsCampingChann-sr9md Hahaha 😂 your problem is your problem...

"I am a 30-year-old mixed-race British-born citizen. I would willingly defend my country if it were being invaded, prioritizing the safety of my family and fellow countrymen. However, it's disheartening to witness a societal shift where expressions of patriotism, allegiance to the Union Jack, and adherence to British values are often stigmatized. The challenges faced by veterans, especially those who end up homeless, highlight a disparity in support compared to the attention given to illegal immigrants, criminals, and child grooming gangs. Considering these factors, the call to unconditionally "jump the trenches" seems discordant when the very citizens asked to make sacrifices feel neglected by their own country."

@roman648

5 ай бұрын

It’s a two way street, they don’t fight our corner, we’re not fighting theirs.

@bb5979

5 ай бұрын

It’s a trick. We dont need to ever fight a war with russia. This is completely by choice.

@woofolliesmydog8628

5 ай бұрын

Imagine a society where waving the Union flag is considered racist, but then the govt wants people to defend that very same flag.

@martysmith5260

5 ай бұрын

By the time your country is invaded, it's too late. Europe has had this fantasy that having a large military is and in of itself "provocative." You know why the US Arms industry is booming? Because everybody is anti-war until they feel threatened. Then they can't place their orders with the military industrial complex of the United States fast enough! Right now, we are not able to meet world demand for our weapons and still maintain proper levels of our own arsenal!!

@klawlor3659

5 ай бұрын

​@@woofolliesmydog8628the regime don't want you to defend that flag, although they'll say that's the reason. They want us to bail out their failed Ukraine proxy war under the guise of a potential Russian attack (which wouldn't happen because Russia has got much more important stuff!). The Ukraine-Russia issue has been going on for at least 10 years now.

We already have a war with our own government and councils the people of this country won’t fight for this country any more we’ve lost our pride .

When all else fails they take you to war." -Gerald Celente

@tommychappell6359

5 ай бұрын

the word is NO. i'd rather die saying no than say yes for wrong reasons.

This is just out rageous. I have heard it all now. Ex serviceman for 15 ..17 years here. from 1979, times have changed, but I just can not see us lasting out any war at all today.

@Alan-pf1ob

5 ай бұрын

I'll never fight for a country I simply don't recognize

@ThePixey1000

5 ай бұрын

@magirusdeutzjupiter2234 They have imported the foreigners now they will allow in the Government they want to take over the country. They didnt need a war they entered by the back door.

"Britain readies for a potential full-scale war against Russia" -- All through this video, I was waiting to see John Cleese pop up and declare that a war on Russia wouldn't be such a splendid idea after all. But, alas, he failed to appear.. Still, this is one of the very best Monty Pythons ever!

@athelstan927

5 ай бұрын

He's bought and paid for!

@sirrobinofloxley7156

5 ай бұрын

@@athelstan927 Could be also said he was very much an instigator.

@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit

4 ай бұрын

the news media must stop instigating at war in any way shape form and be reported for tryng to bring war

This comment section is revealing the division & distance felt by the ordinary British citizens, the politicians ought to direct their efforts on our own problems rather than looking to fight wars abroad, just say'in.

@blueskye7962

19 күн бұрын

Wars stop dissent at home that's why they send plebs away in the first place

We did have a proper system in place but it was slashed. Apparently we had a million reservists now that is a fraction.

Send those in power first let them lead on the front line. Absolutely sick of these idiots wanting to go to war against Russia but unable open their mouths for a ceasefire in Gaza.

@neilbarrass7337

5 ай бұрын

True

@user-mt6mj2ng4k

5 ай бұрын

I hear that refugees are being offered citizenship of Ukraine as an alternative to going to Rwanda

@ggunga7764

5 ай бұрын

Fair point

@timonsolus

5 ай бұрын

Do you think that it’s important for Sunak to call for a ceasefire in Gaza even though we already know that Netanyahu will take no notice other than to mock him for being weak?

@JirkaKID

5 ай бұрын

🌹🌹🌹🌼🌼🌼💅💅💅

Russian government or the people have no desire to harm Britain or British people. It is absurd that some people in the military push for a war . Prayers for peace in the world .

@bb5979

5 ай бұрын

Agree. British politicians and media salivating at the prospect of a world war though clearly.

@darren6831

5 ай бұрын

They rattled the cage, they should be worried. Now the Russian people are in danger

@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

5 ай бұрын

Russia claimed it had no desire to invade Ukraine in 2022. But it lied.

@nadiamelanty4018

5 ай бұрын

Reall? Their TV program suggested few times that they drop nuclear wapon on Britain . TV in Russian totally controlled by the government.

@davidbrown5411

5 ай бұрын

Oh we know that. Don't confuse what our politicians want with what the people want.

We dont want to escalate this > we can't send them tanks > Lets send some cash > Lets send weapons > F it send tanks > WE ARE TRYING TO DE-ESCALATE > More aid > More Aid > World War 3.

I'll have to be a spectator for this one, as I'm almost 70 years old, and osteoarthritis would prevent me marching.......

The fact the Russian people, the Ukranian people, the American people the European people… had / have no issue with each other, is insane. agreed, end of

It mightve worked for Maggie, but not for you Rishi. Stop using our youth as cannon fodder and engage in sensible adult discourse. Too many people making too much money from the death machine.

@randomclick2826

5 ай бұрын

Rishi has no say in this. Biden will have him replaced if he goes off message.

@willc1294

5 ай бұрын

Exactly who's gonna fight to preserve the ill gotten wealth of a little weedy brown manlet who wants to f**k off from the UK and play at being a cali tech-bro at the first opportunity😂

@alex_n8863

5 ай бұрын

I, for one, will not go into "the meat grinder"

Britain, especially centred on Westminster, is a spectacularly arrogant small player in the world. We continually scale down our armed forces when our enemies are growing theirs. We treat allies like France with scorn. We step back from institutions like the EU for flawed, petty reasons and what are we getting for our small-mindedness? a revolving door of power-hungry Tories and a shrinking economy. We need to start acting right or we’re in major trouble within a decade

@blueskye7962

19 күн бұрын

On the contrary military spending is ever on the increase but it has been in weaponery

This is absolutely MAD! Fighting wars for the rich and powerful. Provoking paranoia.

Beating the drums of war for WW3. 😱 Insane.

@user-mr3cz5vt6n

5 ай бұрын

They're no fools like an old fool.

@bk7212

5 ай бұрын

@@ronin8926 Both sides seems to want escalation.

@johnm2871

5 ай бұрын

​@@ronin8926I think you'll find it's Nato that have poked the bear

@Peekaboo-Kitty

5 ай бұрын

War is very profitable. Time to make more money?

It's terrifying to think that WW1 was started after the shooting of someone most people had never heard of... Millions died. The flimsiest of excuses and we've had it. 😬

@michelled1475

5 ай бұрын

The politicians on 'both sides' concoct conflicts to make money- billions- from weapons dealing.

@marcusmurphy3640

5 ай бұрын

And it was all based on a lie just like the Vietnam War.

@Defender_of_the_realm

5 ай бұрын

good point and they didnt have nukes back then

@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima

5 ай бұрын

The US backed two coups in Ukraine - 2004 & 2014; it backed ethno-fascist groups who carried out 1/4 of the holocaust in WWII; it backed these fascist groups through Project Aerodynamic and Project Icon from 1940s till 1990. This is exposed in a FOIA (Freedom of lnformatlon request) release of 3,800 CIA documents. Then according to Ast Sec Victoria Nuland declared publically at the National Press Club, the US spent over $5 billion on regime change in Ukraine from 1990 to early 2014... That includes the two coups and more backing for fascist groups.

@malcolmmitchell6529

5 ай бұрын

A family feud

If you think I'm risking my life fighting for a country that can't even provide me with a wheely bin then you're mistaken.

@simonsignolet5632

3 ай бұрын

They gave me a wheelie bin for refuse and ANOTHER for paper recycling. I hope you don't think I should be mobilised...

The people of Britain do not want a war with anyone, if politicians and the establishment do, let them go to fight it. Seems Profit of big business is more important than the lives of our young people.

@stevenmartin8828

5 ай бұрын

Noone wants a war, profit has nothing to do with it. Just like Noone wanted a war in the last 2 world wars, however evil dictators like Putin start wars. If you think he was going to stop at Ukraine then you are deluded.

@timonsolus

5 ай бұрын

That’s not the issue. The issue is that the UK is bound by NATO Article 5 to go to war with Russia as soon as Russia invades Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania (which is what Putin wants to do). It’s only a matter of time before Putin threatens to invade the 3 Baltic states unless they leave NATO and declare neutrality.

The British have been conned to go to war twice. Hopefully the indigenous British person wont fall for it a third time. At least our parliament both times was full of British people.

We dont want war for the politicians interest

As an 80 yr old who saw his Father return from WWII i will say right away that the fighting age Brits of today could not and will not fight for this now ruined Country. They haven't the love the strength or the wherewithal to fight for something that means very little to them. My Fathers generation joined up in their hundreds of thousands to fight because their Fathers had fought in WWI and they loved this Country, but the young of today haven't had to fight for anything and quite frankly they haven't the passion needed to fight.

No to war, no to conscription. There is never any benefit to the ordinary man, only grief and loss

@Dingbat-tb5wz

5 ай бұрын

I'm always struck by the way people like yourself seem to think that all they have to do is say "no" to war. Invading armies aren't interested in your denials, though they may be keen to encourage your pacifist tendencies - assuming, that is, that you're not a Russian stooge yourself.

@carrots0

5 ай бұрын

👏 👏

@neilbarrass7337

5 ай бұрын

Not just men,women too. It is only fair.

@bb5979

5 ай бұрын

@Dingbat - living up to your name. There will be no invasion is these people stop talking like crazy idiots

@johans7119

5 ай бұрын

Just say no to war - why did nobody think of that?

Britain getting ready for war with Russia 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a joke

@elliotlove3058

5 ай бұрын

😂😂

@Muppet.master

5 ай бұрын

🎉😂🎉

@NexNecisUK

5 ай бұрын

Russian zombies out in force I see.

@jasonsccheung3831

5 ай бұрын

Like those British weapons in Ukraine?

@mobsiesixsixsix9785

5 ай бұрын

@@NexNecisUK So anyone who is against war is Russian but they want war.... How ignorant are you?

Mandatory 2year service when you turn 18 in the military for all the people who are medically fit.

@flumpaustin1994

5 ай бұрын

No

@pizzamad3334

4 ай бұрын

Get lost. You first.

@asabovesobelow5683

4 ай бұрын

@@pizzamad3334 I already served.

@wheeIz

2 ай бұрын

​@@asabovesobelow5683 ohhh gotcha. You wanted to do it. And now expect everyone to do it. Typical

Britain fighting Russia, surely this is some kind of a joke. It’s fair to say the government and their families should lead the front line, after all they started this mess 😂😂

DON'T allow the working class to suffer with your wrong doing. Get the Eton boys and people who studied at Eton as they need to go on the front line!!!

@user-wx1gd9fs1k

5 ай бұрын

The boys from the Mersey, the Thames and the Tyne.

We always find money for war but never for the vulnerable in our society. Its 2024 why is this even on the table?

@troytempest290

5 ай бұрын

To replace the missing food. 😢

@terryhaircastle5702

5 ай бұрын

I'm a bit conflicted with this tbh as a left-leaning, socialist brit. I'd rather not have a bankrupted / under supplied military with a hostile Russia at the gate, but I also despair at the total dereliction of duty on home affairs. I think this points more toward systematic misappropriation of funds, going back a long time - the rich keep squeezing the poor one way or another.

@crowbar9566

5 ай бұрын

Putin is putting it on the table. He has surged the Russian defence budget and multiple intelligence sources from many countries say the Russians are making plans for a large scale war. All the information is out there. Who are the vulnerable you want to look after? You can always take a coule of them into your own home if you feel so strongly about them.

@AI-Records24

5 ай бұрын

@@terryhaircastle5702it’s not often I agree with people on the left, but I totally agree with you there.

@terryhaircastle5702

5 ай бұрын

@@AI-Records24 cheers to that mate

Why don't we up the diplomacy in preparation for any peace that may happen.

@zpetraki5015

5 ай бұрын

Peace is cheap, was is profitable my dear Watson! Especially if you are in the billionaires league.

@kychemclass5850

5 ай бұрын

@@zpetraki5015 so true,

It's not war against Russia, it's a war again our own people. "The war is not meant to be won, it's meant to be continuous" 1984.

Make ALL weapons manufacturers NOT FOR PROFIT entities.. pay shareholders off.. any excess money going into peaceful domestic activities.. It should be illegal to profiteer from the deaths of others, regardless of justification.

@martysmith5260

5 ай бұрын

And it should be illegal to be mean to other people too. You might as well add that in there to your utopian view of life. What world do you inhabit? Does it have human beings? If so, you probably should know by now humans have been a violent species since they first climbed out of the primordial ooze. It's in our DNA.

@user-mt6mj2ng4k

5 ай бұрын

Abolish money and solve all the worlds problems.

@lethargicmosquito

5 ай бұрын

@@user-mt6mj2ng4k i like how you think. What next though?

@JohnPretty1

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but that would end all war overnight. Can't do that!

@robertthornton5106

5 ай бұрын

Yeah lets remove the biggest incentive for innovation and development.

What's the problem? Britain has thousands of fighting fit young men arriving in a constant flow.

Are they mad !? ... as it stands we couldn't fight our way out of a paper bag.

If the government wants the people to fight for it, the government should start fighting for its people. Loyalty is traded for loyalty and the current administration has shown a distinct lack of this trait.

@jonsimmons4150

5 ай бұрын

"lack of"..?? devoid of.. fixed for free..

After all the disdain shown to us, the establishment who want war to line their pockets etc - can do one.

It needs to be called the monster raving Conservative party

@HitchcockTheSnail

5 ай бұрын

Honestly, I'd vote for the Raving party over this muppet of a govt. SMH

@chrism415

5 ай бұрын

Or we need to get ourselves a completely new system?

Raise an army to take back the streets of England and make them safe and a proper border never mind going off and fighting in another country train young people up to fight and good moral support it would be great for mental health but not go to war but when it comes to protecting the country they'll be ready a lot of people would like that.

Britain must get ready don't sit on your hands get ready Britain.

If there is increased tension that Britian could end up fighting a war against the Russians. Is it logical to close the Port Talbot steel works.

@randomclick2826

5 ай бұрын

Nope, not logical to close our farms down either but it’s happening. It’s almost like our political class are predicting or engineering a massive reduction in population in the immediate future.

@Jonnyicey

5 ай бұрын

​@@randomclick2826over the last 50 or so years the global fertility rate has also plummeted. India for example went from 6 children per woman to 2. It's never mentioned in the mainstream media tho, even tho its a looming population collapse.

@fasthracing

5 ай бұрын

Its owned by Indians

@MrManny075

5 ай бұрын

How that is possible? For the UK to fight Russia it means NATO fighting Russia it also means nukes one Satan hit the UK and half of it will be underwater 2 the UK is gone for good, each carries 11 warheads and they have 100s that's why they reduced the army because what's the point?

@CC-uq4hu

5 ай бұрын

Planned dismantling of military assets and strength over many years imho

It is vital for the arms dealers that conflict is kept going.

@trevorroberts9584

5 ай бұрын

Before their aggression on Ukraine, Russia was one of the biggest arms dealers in the world. Though it isn't now. Uhm!

@Dingbat-tb5wz

5 ай бұрын

It is vital for EVERYONE to ensure we're not taken over by an expansionist dictatorship. There were clowns like you back in the 30s. Appeasers, cranks......like that, and in the end we had to fight a long and bloody war that needn't have been so long or so bloody if we'd stepped in earlier. Here's something you need to know: talking like a crank does not make you look cool, except to other idiots.

@dirtyharry6297

5 ай бұрын

Proves otherwise, defence industry can not convince Trump and MAGA to support Ukraine.., Seems illogical

@aleccap5946

5 ай бұрын

Dodgy David Cameron has 35 million selling weapons

@boota1979

5 ай бұрын

@@trevorroberts9584 The US sell 40% of the total volume of international arms, around the globe. Russia around 18%.

Can you imagine what the British would do if Russia backed a coup to overthrow the French government and then supplied arms and training to the French army to be deployed right up the UK’s border?

Id fight for my fellow brits i love you lot...but the politicians particularly the ones responsible for all the cutbacks can get stuffed. And my worry of Russian infiltration in uk politics

Where has all this come from all of a sudden (the last couple of days)? Going to war with a nuclear power is no small thing. What are we not being told?

@caleblowdon8134

5 ай бұрын

Another lie

@Dude0000

5 ай бұрын

It’s a grift to get more funding for Ukraine.

@user-mt6mj2ng4k

5 ай бұрын

I hear that refugees are being offered citizenship of Ukraine as an alternative to going to Rwanda

@Bluelady777

5 ай бұрын

Look who’s recently been brought into the government.. old Cameron he likes a bit of war

@justsain3236

5 ай бұрын

Well you see Peter Britain is no longer a superpower and has tied itself with the US in the "special relationship", having no independent foreign policy of its own. The call for a "citizen army", which is scaremongering as what they really want to do is increase the defence budget to 4% gradually from the 2% it is now. This coincides with Turkey allowing Sweden to become a member of NATO; coincidence....ofcourse not, the US has pressured both the Tukish government and us into doing this. The news anchor's are in cahoots, not arguing with the individual they are talking to but agreeing with them; it's all a set-up so the public keep their mouths shut when taxes go up.

In Britain we have no manufacturing of propellants. As an island we buy it from elsewhere and ship it in. Ministers were made aware of this a few year back and ignored the fact. Not a good position to be in.

@alex_n8863

5 ай бұрын

Lucky that we have a thriving steel industry! 🤔😞

@user-mt6mj2ng4k

5 ай бұрын

@@alex_n8863 I hear that refugees are being offered citizenship of Ukraine as an alternative to going to Rwanda

@leod-sigefast

5 ай бұрын

The fact that the steel production in Wales is shutting down is also extremely worrying. Imagine having to rely 100% on Chinese and Indian steel for all our production, potentially in a time of war! Certainly hostile with the former and India becoming increasingly more pro-Russian. Great forward (Brexit) planning. What was it Rees-Mogg bragged about: "a global Britain venturing out into the world". All the while the world is becoming more insular, more protectionist and more volatile.

@justsain3236

5 ай бұрын

Propellant for what? Ants, bees

@nozhki-busha

5 ай бұрын

@@user-mt6mj2ng4k then you heard wrong comrade. Russia however is offering nationality if you agree to go to war in Ukraine and get unalived.

depends on the economy - if we the worst happens and full economic collapse, then they will take us to war as a cover for sure

What good would 500.000 troops be when Nuclear missles are flying all over the globe? To think it would be a war like WW2 for instance is daft, it would start with cyber attacks then end in nuclear war, the end.

The enemy are here in the midst of UK society. Welcomed here by our political parties.

@raz870

5 ай бұрын

Your real enemy is your government and those hiding behind them in control. But they have manipulated a lot of us to think otherwise . The migrants are being used in many ways just like the rest of us. Divide and conquer while the real enemy carries on full force with their evil plans. They dont give a toss about any of us.

@mistymac9345

5 ай бұрын

I agree

@michellelouise3615

5 ай бұрын

Agree

@nicksanders4238

5 ай бұрын

The politicians are the enemy they get us into this mess everytime and its people like us that bare the effects of it

@bobkelly3162

5 ай бұрын

I don't think immigrants are any threat at all. The real and present danger comes from the UK/USA unholy alliance.

Britain is finished now ... London is not England and if you really think you could call up men from say Bradford or Southall or Oldham or Luton 90% Asian you must be out of your mind !

Conscription should be made compulsory and has been needed for some time. Putin must be stopped, NATO must do something

Isn't that why we are in NATO so our relatively small army has a lot of back up if we get attacked ? why all of a sudden do we need civilians to sign up ?

@randomclick2826

5 ай бұрын

The political class of Europe is forcing the closure of farms. They’re also closing our steel foundries while speaking of war. Europe is being engineered to support a much smaller population than it is currently hosting. They want us plebs gone and starting a war while not being able to feed or arm the population is the way to achieve that.

@EpicAelflaed

5 ай бұрын

It’s just propaganda to keep us all in fear

@trevorroberts9584

5 ай бұрын

All soldiers were 'civilians who signed up'.

@Juandan59

5 ай бұрын

NATO = North Atlantic Terror Organisation.

@TheGameCentre-yn7er

5 ай бұрын

You do not understand the scale of this war, Every NATO country will be mobilised period get use to the idea it is going to happen

Mr Shapps wouldn’t know “right” if he was putting his shoes on. The dearth of quality in such governmental positions nowadays is saddening.

@simonsignolet5632

3 ай бұрын

@BondRichBond I think you're very wrong. I have his dresser valet's word on it that his right shoe is CLEARLY marked on the toecap with a "R".

We need to be spending 5.5% of GDP as we did in the 1970s when the international situation was probably less threatening than it is now. And given that the situation is frightening, then contrary to the General, we do need to be frightened. Only then will the necessary re-armament take place.

@blueskye7962

19 күн бұрын

The situation is only threatening because American NATO UK want it to be and they use their mouthpieces to alarm the public. The threat is from those controlling Western Govts. Arms and aviation lobbyist oil and gas thieves...using corrupt politicians to make it about Nations. It's about killing and stealing for profit.

After decades of EDI saying white men are bad, and being Christian or waving a British flag can be "hate speech" or "breach of the peace" it's little wonder there's not much national spirit left. Add the now ~15M immigrants and there's an issue. Be fascinated to know how (or if) they'll tackle the issue.

@davidhitchen2118

2 ай бұрын

Just be on the look out when the media and the public suddenly start embracing men once again... conveniently before they try to sacrifice us all in a war.

Our Children in the UK have not even got decent buildings to be schooled in.

@user-tf4tv9bj4f

5 ай бұрын

neither do Russians

If you cut out all the noise, what they are really saying is Ukraine neo nazis have run out of front line troops and the Russian war of attrition is winning! NATO proxy war has failed and panic has set in.

The UK needs to step up.

fine,ok.no problem at all with what he is saying as a seasoned veteran. now how do you square national service with an affliction to firearms,if you have been trained since birth they are the plague?

@bigmacntings7451

5 ай бұрын

you basically need to re-train people that sometimes dialogue doesn't work,and use of force will be the arbiter. #school of hard knocks/street politics rules. that's going to shock a few people.

I'm white and British so do I go to the back of the queue like the indigenous people of Britain do when if comes to Housing, health care, benefits,

@roman648

5 ай бұрын

That’s my principal, we’ve been at the back of the queue for everything, demonised, white privilege, xenophobia, racist. And now you want me to fight… No fight your own battle they don’t fight any of mine.

@daze507

5 ай бұрын

And freedom of speech.

@kvntsuay

5 ай бұрын

you wish, they will want you front line why some zulu comforts your wife at home 😂

We really wouldn’t be secure… to many of our resources aren’t our own & ultimately we would struggle to defend ourselves if we were attacked. As a country we have sold off too much & also don’t build, make & grown enough of our own products instead of buying from abroad. Why on earth would anyone really want to join the services anymore as the benefits have greatly reduced & once a Veteran it’s embarrassing to say the least.