Bridging the Gap - PSO2 NGS Lore
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Zephetto dropped several major bombshells about our world, but our convo was cut short when a starless vanguard rolled up.
Our heroes have settled into their new roles as these fiends make their way across Halpha.
It seems the research folks hit pay dirt while exploring Leciel, and Pharia wants to see us.
We head over to the command room to meet up with Pharia, who seems a little… off. Zephetto borrows Pharia’s body and bids us meet him at this newly discovered locale called the nameless city.
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I can see us going in a HUGE depression arc when we gain our memories and realize that EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING WE KNEW ARE DEAD
@magic_cfw
Ай бұрын
I doubt it, since this case seems to be more an easter egg. Unless they put in the budget to make two distinct paths depending on whether they make you some "generic" ARKS (aka, not mc from pso2) vs you from either post ep3 or ideally ep6... inb4 a alma/matoi dna clone outta nowhere
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
We shall see.
The craziest part is it doesn't even matter what character you finished story in base is, if you finished it with one other character, you get the third dialogue unlocked for all others on the same ship
@zeehero7280
Ай бұрын
I don't have my old account anymore. what third dialouge?
@cipher-one
Ай бұрын
@@zeehero7280 If you finished base PSO2's main story, and then proceed to get to Chapter 7 of NGS, then the beginning cutscene when players arrive in Nameless City adds a bonus dialogue option where the Halpha Guardian (our MC) comments about the familiar the place looks and then proceeds to have a flashback of Matoi. Basically, it's highly implied that the Halpha Guardian is actually the original Guardian from PSO2.
Despite his short role, Zephetto ended up being very well put together for what he was. :) He's the primary link between us and the old days. His name tags him as both the creator of the Dolls and also the new ARKS, which he created with the wish that his creation would one day become the real thing. His parting words were basically "You've become da real bois!" XD Furthermore, if you combine his motivations with the Song of Mourning, (which was played almost ritualistically every day in the Nameless City), it lends the lyrics of that song an almost dogmatic reverence that wasn't evident before. "your grief unending; let its flame light the path ahead" "your sacrifices will be told" "'till my dying day, I'll sing your refrain; let it echo in my veins" "your light shines on; a beacon burning in the night, showing us the way" "your melody will sound till sweet eternity, echo to the skies" I'm inclined to think Zephetto may have been the author of the Song of Mourning, considering how closely it aligns with his experiences.
Ah that nostalgic, intro of the lore keeper. Love it!
I found it crazy that it's our PSO2 character the entire we are playing as. Also, the problem with PSO2 character is that you can have the biggest smile on your face and just witness a mass murder without changing your expression or have a ahego face while in a serious cutscene.
"Hooray, we beat veal and saved the world... what next..." "Um congratulations you graduated to... PS03 the quest for more AC scratch."
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
LMAO
@lememe9781
Ай бұрын
Bruh
I seriously can't wait to see where the story goes a year from now. Also, I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that either Casra or Xiao froze us, assuming we didn't go "I must go, this planet from the future I didn't just imagine needs me!"
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Yeah probably one of those two.
so far the Starless are like the Tyranids of PSO2 but in macrocosmic scale . just remember what Pharia said in chapter 6 : the Starless came from beyond our existance space. now imagine a 1000 years ago , the conflict against PD was on the run , with so much photonic activity called their attention from another universe like : its that what i think it is ? :) or another more disturbing theory : they didnt came before because they were afraid of PD and her darkers minions.
@shiningamaterasu2579
Ай бұрын
Doesn't Zephetto also mention before the fight versus him that the also come from outside space and time?
@silo1991
Ай бұрын
@@shiningamaterasu2579 Zephetto just said the Starless came without warning. And then Pharia said the fact they came from beyond our existance space.
@shiro3146
Ай бұрын
imagine if starless is on outside of Oracle universe feasting on photons of that universe, after they devour that universe they felt unsatiated hunger, then Guardian and PD duel comes in making explotion of Photons causing that "thing" to notice a glimmer light(photon) on the random direction, so "they" go there to "eat" more but well thats the thing i can think of based on too much reading cultivation manhua with many Realm, Electric Boogaloo Isekai Manga and Awakener and game-like Manhwa and Manhua and recently manga with its Multiple Universes inside a Dungeons
@silo1991
Ай бұрын
@@shiro3146 while the guardian and PD did their final battle . Vael: what was that ? , (smells) food :D
Casra predicted that there would be social movement to put an end to Photon research in Oracle, and the Guardian might be a victim of said movement.
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Yeah he sure did. I could believe that
This chapter had me shook then surprised it was good can't hardly wait for more to happen
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Things are certainly picking up!
I am really happy with this update, as it both satisfies the newcomers and the veterans, it makes the newcomers want to ask more questions about the past, and for us veterans no more information is needed because we know it all which I think is a good balance, even if they were to inject more information, and with the information revealed about the starless makes me want to know more, like when did they start existing, and if they existed 1000 years ago or below why didn't they attack then
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Yeah it does a great job stirring up intrigue.
I find funny the part that you mention of those who started with NGS that has no ties with Classic PSO2... well, in my case I had since the end of 2020 when I gave PSO2 a quick try (which again, the UQ vs Dark Falz Gemini + Profound Darkness... which was the veeeery 1st UQ I played, sold me on playing it but IRL stuff really didn't give me time to play until October 2022 arrived (and also due to a dofus thing I did, I had to restart from scratch instead of having the progress I already had on classic PSO2... not that it mattered as the progress I had was just way too little to really complain about it and other stuff like doing client orders from event NPCs like the COMI characters I never did them to begin with due to lack of time after the quick try that made me think... "I'm going to like this"), and decided to play the story of classic while I was waiting for the Stia update while doing progress in the NGS story, which at the time I was at the middle point of the Kvaris arc) had a tie to it, and despite not being able to play the game for a veeeeery long time, the first impression the game gave me (refer to my first UQ thing again) never left my memories and I found myself in the path of PSO2 again and better than ever. Is going to be interesting to see how things will go in the story after this 909 thing in the Nameless City, as it's possible that a switcheroo happened as the explanation of the 4th clone thing happened before fighting the Starless. And of course, I got THAT 3rd option popping as before the Stia update back in December 2022, I had completed the True Ending of Episode 6 (which is the condition to make the 3rd option to appear) and of course, I picked said option without thinking and it suprised me. Indeed that it has been a while that you went into the Lore Keeper thing (also a complementary reason of why I played the story of classic PSO2).
There is a pattern. Possible spoilers, but in some ways DF Aegis is a lot like Dark Falz Elder with all the arms. Many people considered the look of Solus to be similar to DF Luthor when Solus first came out. Dalion maybe the symbolic DF Apprentice with the 2-5 puppets that fight at its side. There were 4 hosts of Apprentice in Base game if you recall how Episode 5. If you count Margarit, then that's 5 hosts. Vael and introduction in the story screams DF Persona with how he inhabits the 4th clone of the guardian at the end. With this in mind I have to ask, are we going to see a symbolic DF Gemini Starless soon?
If easter egg option is canon, then it's obvious - who IS our 909.
@user-yi9mr7pm3l
Ай бұрын
or maybe just happen to have there memories
So are we going to ignore the fact that the Starless look kinda similar to the SEED from Phantasy Star Universe, if not an evolution of the SEED from Phantasy Star Universe? Or is talking/thinking Phantasy Star Universe the equivalent of talking/thinking about the Roman Empire?
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
DEES nuts?
Wonder if all the falspawns holding the Starless back then we wrecked the Primodial Darkness causing all falspawn gone and Starless got nothing to eat.
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
I could believe that. Something had to be keeping them from coming on the scene sooner.
LORE KEEPER!
If I already finished story in PSO2 and deleted it, is third option still available when I back to NGS,?
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
No idea but I imagine there is an internal flag for that.
@beardalaxy
Ай бұрын
@@Zeomantic i have pso2 deleted, 3rd option still worked. it's gotta be an account flag.
@BoomVtubeCh
Ай бұрын
@beardalaxy Thank for information 🙏
We back!
Great synopsis!
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
Imagine if Dark Falz Elder just possesses someone in Central and manifest at it's full form,are we cooked if that happens? Since y'know,we don't have spaceships anymore
Damn, even my own OC lore gets called out by this.
Vael’s form makes me think of Tabuu (Super Smash Bros. Brawl)
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Had to look that up. Yeah I could see that.
@izzy_theog9658
Ай бұрын
But more importantly, Vael is more of a uhh... ...final boss.
@Shawn_Faris
Ай бұрын
@@izzy_theog9658 Inb4 Vael sprouts butterfly wings and emits lethal shockwaves that you have to dodge
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS thank you Zeo!!!!!! 😆😆😆😆😆
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
No prob!
Heres the thing it makes no sense for the outcome of Base to be NGS when Xiao was planning for the future unless he knew the starless would eventually appear. Xiao, Xiera, Sukunahime, Phaleg, Harriette (and possibly by extension the as of Base 380 year old Risa), and probably Matoi are more than likely still around at least considering all the possibilities and the lore we've been given so far. With everything that happened in to last chapter it all but confirms the Gaurdian from Base is the character we play in NGS because of the special dialogue option, our habit of absorbing too much X-factor and getting put in cryo, Xiao's planning for the future, Xion using her power to make us and Matoi effectively immortal, and our pretty much god status by the end of Base. The big question right now is where the big players who are definitely still around are as taking into account the lore that most of the populace was wiped out has been changed 2 times and as of right now its been stated that the entire outer section of the know populated universe was wiped out that still leaves at least trillions of people alive so wtf is next?
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Here's the thing we've come to expect the writers to deal in the nonsensical.
So I ran away to FFXIV when NGS launched because... well it stunk. You're telling me THIS is all the story development they've had?
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Better than what we've had before.
@Zeik188
Ай бұрын
Yeah it’s pretty sad. They really need to amp it up.
@IN-tm8mw
Ай бұрын
@@Zeik188 I've been wondering how big the development department is, feels like they don't have the staffing to create content that fast.
Watch... in later chapters, it's revealed that you're a Dark Falz.
@Zeomantic
Ай бұрын
Wouldn't be the first time.
@devlkerhextalker4461
Ай бұрын
Yea, we were Dark Falz but a different kind of Dark Falz. I wonder if we still have time traveling ability here in NGS 🤔
@bonaelzee
Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t surprise me. Would be cool though. I miss Dark Blast transformations / Stand Users lol
@Metheos91
Ай бұрын
We already are, our other title is [Persona] the Masked
[There will be a spoiler in this reply] IIRC, there are only 2 people that have the title Guardian. But it didn't mean there won't be more. I think it is unlikely to be more Guardian as a major threat has already vanished, and Starless comes very later in the timeline. But could it be a new Guardian in the time of the war with the Starless? Maybe, however, I think the war was so fast that granting someone the title Guardian might not even happen. This is just a speculation. I believe the one in the pod is neither us in the PSO2 nor Matoi. There is one more person who would also have the title Guardian if they are still with ARKS, that is Persona. In fact, as someone who only fate is different from us. Persona might be mistaken as us (Guardian) in NGS. So, yes. Personally, I think 909 is Persona.
@zerofighterfairy
Ай бұрын
I dont think so, Guardian title is quite special due to their resistance to falspawn corruption and the ability to absorb those corruption from infected Arks. No one has this title anymore, especially now that falspawn is gone and Arks fleet weakened from peace. And Persona practically gone on final battle after Primodial Darkness eliminated for he also dark falz. Either the one in the pod is MC and Matoi. MC one got statis and unstatis itself for unknown reason.
@-LastStand-
Ай бұрын
@@zerofighterfairy not a unknown reason, but emergency defrosted and launched when the facility housing and maintaining the Guardian pod got attacked by the Starless.
@zerofighterfairy
Ай бұрын
@-LastStand- was it? I thought Starless started to appear after we beat Zephetto and he went yolo with his gundam.
@-LastStand-
Ай бұрын
@@zerofighterfairyi think it was in the optional reply to Zephetto when you say you woke up in your pod before touch down on Halpha. Edit: If you go back to the intro scene, you can see your character's eyes open up mid-flight.
@cipher-one
Ай бұрын
What are you even talking about? Persona is quite literally dead. Him and the rest of the Dark Falz decided to formally pass on after the Primordial Darkness was defeated. Even taking that aside, Persona never had the title of Guardian to begin with. Said title only came about during Episode 4 and it was a title specifically created for the Guardian and Matoi because of their contributions and importance to ARKS. Also, as a Dark Falz, Persona lacks the same purification abilities that his original self had and risks corrupting others with his presence and potentially turn them into Falspawn too. He legitimately cannot be with ARKS knowing that. Al is the only Dark Falz that doesn't do that and his existence was a combination of multiple factors being involved in his creation.