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I think the Bendis trope that annoys me most of all is the fact that none of the characters can keep their damn masks on. I can guess a Spidey comic is written by him just by seeing if he's got a mask on during a fight. His Moon Knight run did the same thing too, having Marc Spector constantly pulling back his hood and mask even in plane view of supervillains.

@ComicTropes

6 жыл бұрын

GodzillaMendoza That's an interesting observation. That hadn't occurred to me but I'm thinking of his comics and it appears to be true. I wonder if it's symptomatic of how he tries to ground things. Same reason he attempts various dialog patter techniques?

@GodzillaMendoza

6 жыл бұрын

If I had to guess, he probably thinks it makes the characters more human and vulnerable. Its easier to identify with and fear for a character's failures and successes if they have a recognizable human face to emote with. I get what he's going for with it, but I think he takes it too far and makes it a logistical problem in the story. Every person on the planet should know Peter Parker is Spider-Man considering how often Bendis has him drop the disguise in battle, willingly or otherwise. After a while it starts to feel like a cheap and artificial way to inject drama or tension.

@ComicTropes

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I like when creators really embrace what makes comic books a unique medium. You can have someone in a mask and show their inner thoughts. Or have the mask go invisible to show an emotion (Spidey's half mask). Ah well.

@patoren3gou653

5 жыл бұрын

ComicTropes or you can do what Kamen Rider does and have the heroes act more expressively in costume to make up for the inability to see a characters face

@DrewLSsix

5 жыл бұрын

ロボット鳥山 Who said anything about sane humans? These are people who fight villains in spandex.

its the funniest thing in these, I love seeing him get progressively more drunk

For some reason Brian Michael Bendis doesn't respect previous continuity.

@MarioUcomics

7 жыл бұрын

I think that's why his 1st Ultimate Spider-man run was his strongest work since he didn't have to worry about continuity

@Quiro26

7 жыл бұрын

Agree.

@YujiUedaFan

5 жыл бұрын

Bobby... you're gay.

@Mokkari77

5 жыл бұрын

He doesn't even respect his own continuity! At the end of "Avengers Dissasembled" he has Carol Danvers say she will never forgive the presumed dead Wanda(Scarlet Witch) when she went crazy and destroyed the team. Years later when Wanda comes back suddenly she's suddenly her friend again and calling her husband Vision a jerk for not forgiving her!

@rumblefish9

5 жыл бұрын

Look at Civil War II.

Came for brian michael bendis Stayed for the cider reviews

The "I SAW YOU" is more repetitive when you count the fact that Jigsaw yelled it out like FOUR TIMES in between all the expletives!

Could you make a long-ass video about Sandman?

I chucked at Wolverine saying “Stop raping me”

The only thing I like more than Chris eating hot peppers is Chris drinking

Also: Learn the character; Know each continuity so you're doing it right; Caring about the integrity of the property; giving a damn about the people who buy the books and therefore make sure he is paid; some problems with portraying women; destroying characters because he can (Lois, Jon Kent); incest; cannibalism . . . I could go on but it makes me sad. But another great installment of Comic Tropes. Glad his 2016 video was coughed up by KZread.

Dude, I am glad I ran into your vlog. I appreciate a fellow fan with similar aesthetic taste in comic books. I dig your style, your knowledge and overall takes on different writers. Consider me a fan.

@ComicTropes

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for giving my videos a watch.

I lived in Tacoma for two years, I popped when I saw you at Atomic Comics :-)

Can't wait to binge-watch all of these.

Bendis: not much superheroing, mostly talking. Chris: Not much comicing, mostly drinking. :) I kid

man that guy wrote the absolute worst moon knight run of all time

@jackregz

3 жыл бұрын

I swear Marvel has never had any clue what to do with Moon Knight and anything that worked was a complete accident. (I'm saying this with Moon Knight being my favorite Marvel character.)

Man I just discovered your channel, going through your back catalog of videos now. Subscribed, awesome channel. I've been looking for videos like this for ages and haven't found any comic book KZreadrs that fit what I was looking for, until now. Keep making videos man, hope more people discover you! You totally deserve it.

@Azrael_Garou

5 жыл бұрын

Curious, but have you checked out reviewers like Linkara or Last Angry Geek? Besides Comic Tropes, those two are also favorites of mine.

Love the rap at the end and I dig your extensive knowledge.

@MarvelBoi44

4 жыл бұрын

I liked Jessika “Blæcked” Jonez takiŋg it ʌp dhe æss fяom Luкe “Poшer-Man” Kage

i love how this is more a review of the different ciders you drank than a review of the comics you presented. Lol!

Bendis’ run on “Daredevil” not only made Matt Murdock my favorite comic book character of all time, but made me fall in love with comics.

Funny to see this now, in light of the big DC announcement earlier this week. This video is just another reminder we live in strange times.

One of my favorite local shops too!! Glad to see it noticed

I think I learned more about beer than comics.

I was about to comment on your most recent video to do one on BMB but found out you already did one ant was one of your first ones,love it

I think Bendis works best with his own creations and those he may genuinely like. I already kinda hate him for Avengers Dissembled/House of M. There are characters he just don't bother to do research about and use them as objects and devices. And the way he used Scarlet Witch is a crime, and the recent Civil War II is another giant middle finger to Carol fans. He just never seems to care, there is no respect nor love. Just don't let him write team books or events, it's like waiting for a heart attack.

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Simon Shephard My favorite stuff by him is Jessica Jones and Miles Morales.

@simonshephard3834

7 жыл бұрын

skunkape I like JJ, but even in Alias there are some out of character moments for other characters. Also Avengers put JJ in hospital, and it's not a surprise that Avengers all become more like jerks after he took over. Also the character assassination of Scarlet Witch is unforgivable, it's worse than Hydra Cap, at least Nick Spencer explained why all this happened and have a decent build-up. Bendis just makes Wanda go bat shit crazy out of nowhere. (She remembered and moved on in West Coast Avengers, Busiek made her a leader, a veteran.)Then Bendis came and shit broke loose. Also that What if?JJ joined Avengers felt like a further insult. He made JJ the one who saved it all, JJ prevents Wanda going crazy, yeah sure. Since it's JJ's "daddy" that ruined her. Cap suddenly having interest in JJ and marrying her is all another level of Mary Sue. Carol in his Avengers book is fine, and last year we got Civil War II. Good lord. I don't know, man. I don't trust him with certain characters. Sometimes it felt not like bad writing, but intentional sabotage. So the best solution is give him a little coner, let him do what he likes and ban him from using characters he never respect and know.

@YujiUedaFan

5 жыл бұрын

Or force him to move to DC... wait.

6:28 lmfao i was like wtf is happening 😂😂 i thought he short circuited. I love how he ends his snapping episode with "im buzzed" to explain it lmao i laughed so hard

My man, I grew up in Massachusetts too but now live elsewhere. Saw a cranberry bog on Nantucket.

One of the only superhero comics ive read a lot of was ultimate spiderman. I had no idea miles morales and Jessica jones came from the same writer. I loved her Netflix show and Miles ' debut in spiderverse has ushered in a much needed renovation of mainstream 3d animation. Your opinions aged well!

OMG! Love the rap. In fact, love the whole vid. Thanks!

love the daredevil music paired with the comic shop. such an epic intro

Holy shit, at about 5:45, when he said his cats name (Milo), I called for my dog Milo at the exact same time!! What a trip

6:28 “I’m buzzed.” Lmao!

When I was younger, I wrote down all the tropes mentioned in this video on a piece of paper then I picked up New Avengers vol. 1. I think I found about 164 tropes between the 6 issues.

HahA, dude! You sure a have a few drinking vids. Huge fan of Daredevil, especially during Miller's run during the 80s but sort of left the book before Bendis came on board. By the way, that snappy patter jig was a little creepy...nah, just kidding. It was hilarious. Thanks for posting!

I find most of Bendis' work to be unreadably bad. I liked his original Ultimate Spider-Man run with Mark Bagley, but that's about it. I think his style of writing has generally damaged the comic's industry with too many other writers mimicking his extreme decompression, inane dialogue, and disregard of traditional comic book storytelling tools. Tasty looking ale, though. :)

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

He has written some good stuff. Ultimate Spider-Man, Goldfish, Jinx, several years worth of Powers, a lot of Daredevil. Just to name a few. I wish he'd go back to his crime fiction roots.

@katherinecornett5073

6 жыл бұрын

He’s got his problems but I do enjoy his stuff. Alias is one of favorite things ever put out by marvel tbh. His Daredevil is pretty amazing too.

@dissonantvibe8585

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Sam. ComicsGate has raised some valid criticisms of the comic book industry, but I feel their criticisms are too narrowly focused. I agree with you that Bendis is a poison to the industry and his power in the industry has meant it's big dose of it. I believe if ComicsGate was discussing this and other things that have gone wrong in the industry as well as their focus on the SJWs, the movement would be taken more seriously

@nathanhastings8907

5 жыл бұрын

He has a niche he's works well within that outside of it he's terrible.

@cruddddddddddddddd

4 жыл бұрын

UpAndDown His New Avengers run was very strong at the beginning. It fizzled out at the end, but he did write a few very memorable stories. Daredevil and Ultimate SM are my favorites he did for Marvel. I liked his X-run early on, then I hated it. Continuity matters.

"My parents were cranberry bog-monsters." I just spit my coffee out of my mouth!

Love the art style.

Man steaming from 3 ciders absolute weapon

Comic tropes. Come for the comic review, stay for the alcohol review

re watching because Brians spiderman run were some of my first comic books

Do Hickman!

More rapping please

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Only when I'm very drunk.

He was drunnnnnkkkk by the end

bars at the end 😂😂

The ciders get to your head really quick!!!

Bendis had a way of using an entire issue of a title (like DD) as a bridge during a 12 issue story arc.

Third video I've watched. Very entertaining. I thinking Bendis does best with his own characters, because when writing established characters he makes them go OOC far too much.

I'm buzzed 😂😂😂😂😂

Like you sooo much !!

never understood why people are so critical of Bendis' dialogue. ive always been a big fan of the back and forth between characters he writes. then again, Ultimate Spider-Man is the book that got me into comics, so I may be blinded by nostalgia. great video though, a lot of these never occurred to me before, and since I've been rereading the original run of Ultimate Spider-man I can't stop noticing them, so thanks for that haha

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, just because a writer has a habit or tendency to do certain things does not automatically make them "bad." I just think it's worth noting their stylistic and structural techniques. I think overall his dialog is pretty good but if you read a lot of it, it feels less realistic. I also think his dialog worked a lot better in his crime procedural stuff like Goldfish, Jinx, Daredevil and Powers than, say, Ultimate Spider-Man or Avengers. But that's purely my opinion.

First, I just want to say that I love the show and your comics knowledge... no faults there at all, great job. However, as a former cider drinker (former as I no longer drink), there is one thing I really do have to bring up... CIDER is made with APPLES (or other fruit, depending on how strict you want to get about the definition), while BEER is made with HOPS. The difference is like vodka and whiskey, in that they're made using a totally different method out of different ingredients, and about the only thing they have in common is that they contain alcohol and come in similar-sized bottles. Sorry, but it's kind of a big distinction for me, as I've always hated beer (especially that fizzy-pop called "lager") but used to drink cider on the regular! lol

@YujiUedaFan

5 жыл бұрын

I don't drink alcohol myself, but I was confused when he called cider beer, as I thought maybe American cider has hops in it.

A lot of these problems stem from Bendis wanting to be David Mamet and not taking into consideration that he's writing comics and not for the stage.

I started comics with Byrne's Man of Steel and the first Secret Wars and I like Bendis' dialogue and ideas for character development even when I hate the end results

@jaredgarcia8638

5 жыл бұрын

So good ideas. Shity execution

neat!

Loved seeing Milo!

what's the best run of daredevil for strong legal drama with swashbuckler stlye adventuring from the post 1970's folks?

My favorite Daredevil run!!

You should drink more often you seem to be a delightful drunk. Or buzzed, I dont want to imply you were drunk. Lol great episode.

The biggest trope of Bendis I can see these days is: write a bunch of unimportant nonsense (baffle with bullshit) until the last page or two and only then reveal plot points (or use deus ex machina to resolve the story). Just about every issue of his Superman stuff is this way.

@jaredgarcia8638

5 жыл бұрын

And Action Comics?

I litteraly just read that daredevil issue today lol

that copy of daredevil is the first comic i ever bought when i was like 7!

Do you fancy fruit flavored beer? I only ever tasted one that didn't feel like fruit juice was poured onto them, that was a Barbaroja, but just as a rule of thumb I go for traditional beer varieties or even variations of those

U are my new favorite rapper!!!!

One day, I hope to be man enough to join in on one of these trope drinking games

This is Chris’ excuse to get drunk

Biggest Trope for me is a character saying 'Oh my God'. Once i noticed it i couldn't stop noticing it. Bendis's characters do this far too often. Also the extreme pushing of retcons. Things like the Xorn explanations or trying to push Jessica Jones into Peter Parkers past, the the point where, mid-issue of New Avengers, he literally shows frames from a 1960's comic of Spider-Man and highlights a random student in it to say 'that is Jessica Jones right there'. It's just an insane level of detail that seems to be pushing a very confusing agenda.

Glad I ain’t the only goofy drunk around 🤣

Where in Massachusetts did you grow up in?

The Buffy speak is the reason why I could never get into his stuff. And he is (or was) Marvel’s answer to Geoff Johns.

@anonmouse6337

4 жыл бұрын

Buffy-speak is a writing style that may not suit everyone's ears but it is intelligent writing. There's lots of clever wordplay and meaning, and every line has a purpose. Bends-speak tries to mimick that style but his dialogue lacks substance because of his lack of technical skill. His writing is more comparable to El James (50 shades) than Whedon imo.

Wait was Daredevil married to Karen Page at the time in the comics during Brian Michael bendis run? Thanks

thumbs down are for bendis i'm sure, not tropes.

You were right about Miles and Jessica

Tart is the only word for cranberry!

Hey Chris, I'm working my way through your Tropes videos and you reminded me of a question. What do you consider to be the definition of a graphic novel? I've heard people refer to trade paper backs as graphic novels and I've also heard this is not the true definition. Thanks.

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Interesting question. There is definitely not a consensus. But I think it's important to note that it's really more of a marketing term - an idea to relabel comics to appeal to a wider audience. I have heard a lot of agreement that the first graphic novel is Will Eisner's "Contract with God" which is a complete story. So my personal definition tends to mean a complete story. However, some stories are simply too large to tell in one book, because of physical limitations in the binding process. I don't think that just because a story was initially published in periodicals (chapters) that a trade paperback is NOT a graphic novel. I would argue it absolutely fits the bill. Which also means there isn't that much of a difference between saying comic book or graphic novel. I tend to call everything comics.

Can I see a man who get drunk talking about the tropes of the comics?

Bendis... Bendis the writer...

I love the bendis daredevil run. I know he gets a lot of hate now. But this is when he was great

More kitty!!!

I also appreciate the less "suiting up". He makes the alert egos matter and be interesting.

Yooo when the japanese harem that keeps bullying you, starts taking your clothes off 1:30

bendis main trope: forget everything you know about this character and write it like it was born yesterday

@Azrael_Garou

5 жыл бұрын

Or as a different person entirely.

Whenever an American says hard cider, I just think wow you're so strong and tough with your sweet girly apple drink. (We just call it cider over here)

@therabbithole993

5 жыл бұрын

I'm American and that's still funny your bunch of girly drinkers over here.I myself prefer my a stouter variety but to each their own.

I'm catching up with Comic Tropes videos, and I come across this one. I like BMB, I like cats, I drink alcoholic cider....and I have exactly the same glasses (tumblers) that you're drinking from. Stop it!

Hey Milo! I'm watching with my new kitten (named Peter Parker by my 3yo girl) on my lap.

Haha! First to go in a apocalypse:)

My cats name was milo too

I'm from the future... Oh , Milo...

That Ace Pineapple is the bomb. I dont know if you guys have a Mexican chilli spice thing over there called Tajin. Do yourself some good and sprinkle some Takin into your glass next time you have a pineapple cider. Thank me later.

Dude I’m so jealous of American comic book stores. I cannot find a good comic store with back issues or a huge selection in two provinces in Canada! Atomic comics looks great.

@melanisticmandalorian

Жыл бұрын

which two provinces ?

That sounds like THE WORST origin story: raised by wild cranberries in a cranberry bog, young Chris learned their ways. He grew to be able to do everything a cranberry can do. After a water reel accident, he became Cranberry Man, using his cranberry-based powers to defend the bogs!

The drinking detracted

"Who cares what it smells like, right?" Just sayin', but you totally sounded like Rick Moranis there

Could you do one on black science?

Need more milo

Waids run is so much more fun.

@jaredgarcia8638

5 жыл бұрын

But his modern works are preachy

I don't have much experience reading stuff written by Bendis (Honestly, I'm not sure if I've actually ready ANY of his stuff. Did he do anything for SpiderVerse?), but I am aware that he's the one who wrote the issue where they made Iceman gay. I know he wasn't responsible for it (Thanks, Marvel higher-ups), but it's a business decision I still wholeheartedly denounce.

Ugh that dialogue patter. I found during his runs on (too) many avengers titles it felt like every character was talking like spider-man. I also remember during some fights the wrecking crew would say "we're a thor level baddie". Definitely detracted from immersion. Thanks for your video!!

Your thumbnail is how I see a Bendis DD issue. I can't stand his dialog. Don't worry, I still subscribe to your channel.😁

Ace is yummy

I for one love his stuff on X-Men. The guy gets these characters.

@joshuacox534

7 жыл бұрын

no. he doesn't.

@philiphunn194

6 жыл бұрын

You mean like the time he turned Jean Grey into an obnoxious passive-aggressive bully in order to avoid doing any actual work when outing Iceman?

@ricksanchezdeluniversoc1379

6 жыл бұрын

bendis never knows the characters that he writes.

cider is not a beer