Brian Burke vs Don Cherry
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It was as if somebody kicked his dog Blue.
Turns out part of what set Don Cherry off Saturday night was that his old friend and Coach's Corner partner Ron MacLean had been lumped in with him - the two became one in complaints from Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke to the CBC.
"I didn't like it," Cherry said of his 26-year Coach's Corner partner being involved in Burke "going behind our backs to our bosses" to tell the CBC they "should get rid of Cherry and MacLean."
Say it ain't so.
For his part, MacLean confirmed that Burke did indeed go to their superiors.
"I don't think it was as much to get us fired as much as he wanted to see us muzzled, which is ridiculous," MacLean said.
To Burke's credit, MacLean said, the Leafs GM phoned him before he met with CBC executive director of sports properties Jeff Orridge, who, like Burke, is a Harvard-educated lawyer, several days after the NHL all-star weekend.
"He said, 'I am feeling kind of lousy doing it this way without talking to you first,' " MacLean said of the Burke call.
MacLean was offered a chance to meet with Burke before the meeting but declined - explaining to the Leafs president his and Cherry's job is not to present "all rainbows" in their broadcast.
"Brian feels that I egg Grapes on but in his call he was cordial," MacLean said.
Cherry and Stephen Brunt were on Sportsnet 590 The Fan Tuesday with Bob McCown saying Burke also met with the league with similar concerns.
Said Brunt: "At the board of governors I guess what was implied was if you guys want to get this contract, if you want to renew Hockey Night in Canada when it comes next year, you better get rid of this guy."
Said Cherry: "That's what I heard, too" with word being presented to the governors: "Don't forget we are going to be the guys in charge here and this guy's a loose cannon."
Burke in an e-mail did not respond to questions about this.
The CBC has also not commented on this issue.
Meanwhile, MacLean said Orridge did not divulge the discussions of the meetings that happened two days after the Burke phone call.
"I am not losing any sleep over it," said Ron. "I understand Brian is under a lot of pressure and he treats each day like it's a hockey game. A general manager of such a major professional sports franchise should be able to handle it but it's the way he is. I like him a lot and he is a good guest."
He said he harbours no resentment over Burke going behind his and Don's backs to their boss.
"I forgive Brian," said MacLean. "It's over as far as I am concerned."
But for Cherry, who told McCown and Brunt "it wasn't a very Irish thing for Burke to do," when it comes to forgiveness, there can be a different time frame.
MacLean laughed.
"Don gets mad at me, too, sometimes but he always comes around," he said. "Actually he and Brian are similar like that."
And MacLean made the point that while Burke is under scrutiny, "don't forget Don is under enormous pressure to deliver to his audience too."
He said it didn't surprise him that Cherry would take offence to somebody complaining about MacLean and be the enforcer for his old buddy and teammate.
"He has had my back before when necessary and I have done the same for him," he said.
During the playoffs on the road they often end up "buying a 12-pack" and watching the late game in the hotel room.
"I will drink seven and he will drink five," Cherry said. "We are like Frick and Frack. Sometimes, mostly in the playoffs, we have a foxhole mentality."
It would, he said, be difficult to drive a wedge between them.
"We are close friends."
Brian Burke found that out first-hand this week.
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Now Sportsnet has done away with both Cherry and McCown. Weird to hear them talk about 'going out'...
I tune off sportnet at intermission time!! My own boycott of the Roger morons who let Cherry go!! I loved Coaches Corner as did MILLIONS OF CANADIANS AND AMERICANS!!!!!!!
@rickrick5041
3 жыл бұрын
Is the weasel Ron McLean still on there?
@r.d.sandman6474
3 жыл бұрын
Yes & right now this game needs a man like Grapes. I’ve never known him to be wrong, give bad advice & he supports the troops, kids & the game will be better.
@nyk3334
3 жыл бұрын
This is my reply to people who hate Cherry. “You people” is a demographic. A critique of a minority group is too often dismissed as phobic. I remember, a speeding black TINTED Mercedes flying through my condo Corp. I yelled, “slow the fuck down”. He stopped and reversed, rolled down his window. He’s black. Ok. So? I said, “why can’t you people slow down?” “YOU PEOPLE???” Yes, “You people who keep speeding through here”. He drove off slower. He seemed genuinely upset that I didn’t allow him to use his societal security blanket. If it happens to me, it’s life’s hardships. If it happens to POC it’s racism without evidence because, well, it just has to be, right? Wrong. The fact that so many people feel that way says plenty. Victimhood. Get some. He was dejected that I WASN’T a racist. If the race grievance industry wasn’t a fraudulent one, he would have dapped me up and said, “thank God, alright cool”. But he wasn’t. That’s whack as fuck and not my fault. If you don’t live a white life, you only naturally assume all is well in our lives and we aren’t pulled over for BS reasons (because 90% of law enforcement motor vehicle assessments are made by PROFILING. NOT RACIALLY. HUMANLY). So tired of explaining this. I’m gonna put it on my notes and just paste this shit.
Don Cherry.....nothing but respect for this guy. He says it how it is and does it without throwing anyone under the bus. There will come a time when this man will be missed.
@precastfour9456
4 жыл бұрын
It's right now I know I will miss him
Interviews with Don Cherry are timeless and PRICELESS! After the good lord made Don Cherry, he broke the mold. Bring him back to SN & Coaches Corner!!! The broadcasts, especially the intermissions, just aren't the same.
Crazy. 12 Years ago Cherry wished we were as tough as Boston. To this day nothing has changed, and we still lose to them…
Three Canadian legends 🍁🍁🍁 ...Don always makes so much sense #Kingstonsense
To get rid of Cherry off of Coaches Corner would be the worst thing for hockey television.He speaks the truth,from the heart.But he also has a heart.He supports the right things in hockey & life.Thank -You Mr.Cherry for teaching the rights & wrongs of hockey to the kids & viewers.Shame on you Brian Burke.
@rileymercer6663
4 жыл бұрын
Kensey Dedeus rip lol
@tysonb6985
4 жыл бұрын
Well....
Thanks guys for clearing the air. You guys were always on the same page. You did not come out spearing each other. Great interview. And Don is flying now. He is still a huge part of hockey and Don will stick around because he now realizes that real Canadians just live to hear what he has to say. Don don't you dear hang em up. It not time. The good guys know who you are.
Brian Burka was a bully ,Grapes stood up to him and took him down !......saved Kadri’s career and restored respect back in Toronto
"take a look at 'his' anahiem team they're all full of canadians i dont get it" That's because Bryan MURRAY built the anaheim ducks, he drafted or acquired over 18 players on that team, including Getzlaf and Perry. Bryan Burke got tossed from the nucks and inherited the team that Murray built. The next year with Burke as the gm the ducks lost first round. IN FACT, minus that 07 cup run, with the team murray built, burke doesnt have a single playoff series win. PERIOD.
I love Grapes; this is such a great interview. Thanks for posting!
Two of the greatest, Grapes and the BobCat!👍🏻❤️
Why are the Leafs so messed up? They haven't even made it to the Stanley Cup final, let alone winning the cup, since the late sixties and yet they are the richest team in the NHL. They have one of the most favourable schedules with the HNIC Saturday games. Is it the pressure of playing in Toronto?
What an absolute sweetheart. So genuinely self deprecating, so honest about his own shortcomings - probably way overboard honestly. It’s upside down world, and CBC better hope they never catch me on the street for anything or I’m gonna let them know how ashamed I am of them and their elitist mentality.
Cherry usually picks the controversial subjects to deal with, and half the time he shoots from the hip, says something which pisses people off, but at least he says what people are thinking. NO matter what one thinks of Burke, its evident he has a penchant for "Americanization" of the game of hockey. That is, recruiting US colleges for players who are playing there because they have not been decent enough junior players to get drafted, or haven't played major junior at all. Get rid of him. Fast.
Cherry and Burke: The Meeting of the Hockey Minds.
Burke went to get Maclean and Cherry fired? As much as I like Burke, that's a good way to get HIMSELF fired.
@liveclassictunes
4 жыл бұрын
you like Burke??? give your self a shake man...
don cherry is the man!!
Foreshadowing for sure... Grapes is the best!!
Cherry is right though. CHL >>>
Whynis he wearing sunglasses?
And look at the gm we have now..... Completely destroys any hope we have by overpaying EVERY player.
@precastfour9456
4 жыл бұрын
Haha 35 mil on 3 players
The kids in the Ontario Hockey League would skate circles around any NCAA hockey team.
HNIC getting rid of Cherry is bullshit.
well as a canadian i have to agree with grapes for the most part. now a good percentage of the nhl stars are from the chl so you can kinda of see grapes point, now thats not to say that other programs don't produce stars because they do. But chl produces far more stars than any other junior league.
refreshing Grapes is , im even American. Grapes is only one who speaks from heart. ps. America rocks but so does Grapes
"I said something about. .. the newfoundland "
Don Cherry is such a trip. I think he's less bombastic when he's just doing audio. Less performative but still bombastic and unique.
What they never understood at Rogers and CBC about Cherry and hockey is that this is the entertainment business. Seems to have been lost on them. People arguing over the manufacturing conflict that is professional hockey is actually quite entertaining.
Actually Rask was traded by JFJ at the 2006 draft for Andrew Raycroft. Burke was hired in November 2008.
Don sounds much more intelligible on radio rather than t.v. Seems much more flustered and not able to get full thoughts out on t.v. Still love the guy though, HNIC wont be HNIC without him
@precastfour9456
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly he got fired today
@danielupsdell2697
2 жыл бұрын
He is very intelligent meet him in Vancouver
Grapes has only been watching hockey for 80 years.
This team lineup was almost completely recruited by Burke. He cleaned out the Toronto Many Fails and created this team we have now. Keeping Wilson around was his biggest mistake around the team. Cherry has his own agenda to support local hockey, which is great but it doesn't mean Burke ruined the team by not having a local player. All in all it doesn't matter, I like our current coach and things are moving forward.
Burke is smart and entertaining, but he's petty --- we saw his act here in Vancouver twice
Typical cowardly Burke... one of the worst decisions in the history of the Maple Leafs was to bring in Brian Burke... being a long time Maple Leaf fan it made me sick to my stomach to have to put up with that jerk Burke and his best friend Wilson... they set the Leafs backwards... Dion Phaneuf is probably the worst Leafs captain in the history of the franchise all set up by Burke.
I love Cherry and how he says it like it is. Finally hes getting more air time with a double header coaches corner. Burke gets fired and Cherry gets a raise (in some way). Burke made some decent moves (Kessel and Lupul make a great team) but I do agree with a lot of what Cherry says, how does Toronto not have any Ontario players...
He’s right he didn’t walk away
What a great show this used to be. WTF has happened to sports radio in Canada?
8 kids from Ontario now
@taekwondotime
5 жыл бұрын
And they're WINNING now.
Hockey night in Canada would be so bad without Don cherry.
@BrendanTheGent
4 жыл бұрын
And sadly now it is
@jonnywishbone17
4 жыл бұрын
Yup
Well with any luck he'll be out on his ass next season and he can be surly and miserable while unemployed. Way to go Grapes hit him with both barrels!
there nobody dumber that broadcast executives...classic Bob McCown. Miss him
Hey man...I got auto-played here via Don Cherry Clips.
He has run that team into the ground.
did anyone notice how grapes was the one who ended the call? how was he running the show? they are the ones that called him and supposed decide when to end their broadcast lol.
Don says thing most of us wish we had the balls to say
@goldenretriever6261
4 жыл бұрын
and it got him fired.
@freddycalipari4242
3 жыл бұрын
Golden Retriever it also made him millions
Don Cherry is a beast
Great interview
Bobcat was the best for sports radio talk. The Fan has sucked since he left. Some of the people there now in 2024 are embarrassing, not sure what happened. I get they wanted to make changes but what a bore, for me anyways. I never really stayed with the Fan after Bobcat left. He had great sports talk. great co hosts and the best guests.
10:30 - 10:40 the look on McCown's face is priceless.
@lpssupergirl1
9 жыл бұрын
Not really that strange. It's just his month open, because he can't breathe out of his nose.
I think the two first ballot hall of fame defensemen Burke added would disagree with that statement. PERIOD
So they pick up Clarkson and Bolland, two Toronto boys, and boy what a difference
@PavelowB99
3 жыл бұрын
This didn’t age well goddamn. 😭
and kept Connolly, Lombardi, Armstrong, and Komisarik in the NHL. Nonis is the one who got rid of them.
Ex-Junior Luke Schenn was traded off to Philly for JVR. I get the trade in the sense that we need bigger forwards (Carlisle likes the bigger forwards), but I do think he should have got a Canadian and more-preferably an Ontario-born player. By the way, I agree with your statement 100%.
Because, T.O. is in Ontario. I think most Ontario prospects would like to play for the Blue and White. It doesn't really matter but I just think we should have more Ontario born players since Toronto is located in Ontario
Grapes is Awesome, Go Grapes Go, CBC is on Crack, your the best thing that They Ever Had, Your a Gem, Much Love
it was, and im glade you see that, they traded away 2010 first round pick - Tyler seguin, 2010 second round - Jared Knight, 2011 first round Dougie Hamilton, that was just a terrible trade.
if he was any good he would have won at least one Stanley Cup with those Bruins teams
@js09js09
3 жыл бұрын
He was going up against probably the greatest team in NHL history in the 1976-1979 Montreal Canadiens.
I agree with most of your points...Burke loves college players and I agree with Cherry that some of the best NHL talent comes from Major Junior and not college. Parise et al, are exceptions. I don't think a guy like Bozak (who could not make major junior, by the way and is a college player) would be a first or second liner anywhere else but Toronto, and thats because the timing for a guy like him to play in the NHL was ripe- Burke and Wilson were in charge...nothing against Bozak- good for him
well i'm glad there some americans that respect grapes, he tells it like it is.
@ronniejamesdio3951
5 жыл бұрын
I know this is 5 years later but I love Don Cherry I'm an American Canada is great Long Live grapes
Burke's a joke. Going behind Grapes and Ron like that is just chicken shit. And this guy is making the Leafs shittier than they already are. He trades his draft picks away and mediocrity. This team has no hope at this present trend. They need a new GM so bad. At least they got a kick-ass coach. He can't chuck out the deck chairs on the sinking Titanic, but at least can shuffle it correctly.
Cowards go behind your back Don ...happens to me too
Don cherry is the best hockey analyst ever lived (still alive)who speaks the truth if any one fires I will not watch any CBC intromissons ever again I think they should give him more time stupid Elliott Friedman and his buds get almost 15 minitues
@theliftexpert
4 жыл бұрын
LEAFS-FAN!!!!!!!!!! ....how ironic your comment is ......I hate sportsnet for sticking with Ron and firing Don .
You can just feel the spite radiating off of Brunt as he listens to Grapes. I wonder what the ole buggar did to that sensitive fuck. Was it just jealously, as most of Canada's "smart" media establishment has always felt insecure about their own popularity in relationship to what Cherry had been able to build. Was it really something about Brunt's East Coast vacations and his relative snobbery. I'd love to hear both sides give their versions.
Does Carlyle still have the toaster
No, Don, now only one citizenship on the ice. He played for the USA last juniors so he’s now a Yank. Up for a few with the Leafs, scrum in their corner-& there’s Biggsie standing in front of the net alone making us down a man. Well, he can’t do much worse than his dad Don, 12 games with Philly then ‘Bye!’.
How many friends do I have named Brian? 0 ...don't know why 😉
"You ppl" biggest fan on kadri, he love Canada and the young Canadian men who sacrifice there lives for what it is and that was his whole point.
We miss Bob, eh ..."The cod is a jumpin dere Bob ...come on down to da dock! Go to Newfieland, turn right
that's a good point
he takes pride in his sugar bush work....lol...he's a valuable member of the sugar bush team....lol
I dont know about that, my friend. Have you had a chance to look at this year's and last year's roster? Not looking quite the same...and last I looked Burke had nothing to do with this year's team...Colton Orr and Kadri are good examples of Carlysle's vision.
??? I don't remember the leafs being amazing before he showed up haha
Yah, Burke's done a GREAT JOB!!! god, what a dynasty he's formed.....oops, sorry, guess you gotta make the playoffs first --- remember, when he won with Anaheim, he INHERITED the core of that group...don't let his bluster brainwash you.....Leafs fans -- WAKE UP!!
No hateful comment sir. Statement of fact. I don't think that a guy who stocks the team with college players and seems to have a grudge against the boys who really dig deep to play in the junior ranks...Where's ex Junior Luke Schenn right now? Case in point. And by the way, seems like a lot of "thumbs up" for my original comment, I see I am not alone in my thinking.
this guy is a real smart one....I'm never buying maple syrup again....lol
I hate Burke so much.
Burke pulled this stunt in Vancouver, trying to get media muzzled and fired ---- it's really lame and pathetic... he should put more effort into trying to have a less embarrassing team. Unfortunately now in Vancouver, we have another guy who threatens media who don't carry his bags....... I'm a Canucks fan, but will love to see the current GM run out of town --- bad people don't deserve success
You can bet that Lucic and Kreichi will be locked up. That will be 5/7 of their core. The bruins also have good depth players. They aren't going anywhere for a long time. In 4 years, the leafs will still be in the cellar. Reality check.
No kidding. There's more grit in drafted JUNIOR players than college, by FAR. I played Junior and anybody in the NHL today who is making any contributions that are meaningful, have come right of junior. Cherry is right about Burke and his bullshit about drafting college players. Burke's gotta go. He's been here too long too.
If he doesnt get luongo then he should be fired! (and im a vancouver fan!!!)
Cherry can be a goof, no doubt about it, but he's a real human being with flaws, but he's very loyal, and honest to a fault. Burke is entertaining, but he's just not a real good guy --- we watched his act in Vancouver -- -and at one point HIS WIFE called a talk in show to take on a host, whom she thought had disparaged her husband.....hmmmm.... anyways, I don't mind Burke, but Cherry is the real deal === and for anyone who mocks his intelligence -- they should check their success against his...
yeah, well hockey is #1 in Canada, so I hope your junior league would be able to produce hockey players. We do alright in the U.S. , all things considered.
@maggieandjim1934
4 жыл бұрын
well the usa has 10 times the population of canada and we are still the best and most of your american pros have canadian dads that played for an american team.....so dont get too wound up about hockey in the usa
how is its a pretty decent system, if it's not working? - LOL
They did avoid Canadian players! It was obvious 26 drafted 3 Canadian players. Burke was a dummy
burke is a huge, Cuban dart
truth
Burke is lousy, he hasn’t done anything good for any team. Anaheim just landed on his lap.
Grapes is a legend
I was at that game and yelled it proudly.
the kessel move was terrible ...
Looks like your silly comment has come to show it's true nature. Burke built this team that is 5th in the standings.
Wonder if the broadcast executive remembered that statement at 11:49 cuz i think he/she outlasted them both 🤔
Very few prospects??? Seguin, Hamilton, Caron, Knight. They have some others, more importantly they also have some good young players that they will lock up long term. They also have a guy named Tukka RASK in goal for the future. Yeah they are in real trouble. As opposed to the leafs prospects. Scrivens/reimer *snickers* then *bursts out laughing*, nazem so weak its sad kadri. Schenn you miscoached and is now in Philly. Yeah there is colborne and ashton but you lost Aulie. You're toast.
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I was never one to sit in Burke's corner, but I was also never a hater. I do believe he has filled our minor ranks quite well though giving us potential in the future.
Canadian player sure...why an Ontario player out of curiosity?
@jameswade9375
5 жыл бұрын
most hockey players comes from...ont
fuck that's funny....this guy is something else.
If u ain't from Ontario you don't know what hockey is. Hockey was invented in Ontario. I've listened to don for years. If your not from Canada, especially Ontario, your not any good. Hockey is played outside Canada. Looked at all the Canadian gms. No wonder why that half the players are canadaian.
@lordmagnos
7 жыл бұрын
sorry bruh....but it was invented in montreal.
hahahaha....look at what the boy-genius wrote....he's claiming you are talking to yourself, then he writes the same comment 5 times to himself.....lol