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It's very intriguing to me that The Watcher knows Miss Minutes

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Isn't it though? I mean I don't know if it's canon, but the idea of the two of them chillin' and discussing life in the multiverse is pretty epic!

I was so excited to see the playthroughs, and I love that there's two endings. Wish it was more accessible, though. Thanks for breaking it down!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I loved watching the playthroughs. Seems like a really fun game!

I think the timeline number thing is shorthand for Loki's branch numbers. Presumably this is all within the Loki tree, so the numbers would be "Earth 616, Timeline 724" etc

@MrCorey213

Ай бұрын

But that’s not what the game says.

@drewdrew2172

Ай бұрын

I thought this too

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I like that theory alot!

@zainhargrove

Ай бұрын

100% I thought the same thing

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@zainhargrove

Don't know if this was an intentional reference or just happened by complete accident, but I find it neat that the Wanda in this game is basically just wearing Wiccan's costume, her son Billy's adult superhero persona. The black body suit, yellow accents on the sides, vibrant red cape, even down to the hairstyle and the white head-piece, are all lifted from his look. But at the same it isn't that drastic of a color swap/re-design from her Wandavision super-suit so it wouldn't be impossible that it's simply just a coincidence.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very interesting...I hadn't made that connection, but you have a great point about the costume similarities!

With the whole multiverse and different timelines concepts, I always assume that everything Marvel produces is canon until explicitly told otherwise. Then the question becomes “does it affect other timelines that we’re actively following?”

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Well said! Granted, the game makes it seem to me like this is happening to the main MCU tree (i.e. Loki's tree), especially in that final boss battle. But I agree, if this is happening in a different universe, then it doesn't matter as much. Basically, everything can be canon to the larger multiverse. Thanks for the excellent feedback on the vid!

@lordmiow

Ай бұрын

out of all the comments i read, i think i might agree with this one.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@lordmiow Agreed...very good comment!

Don't know if you've seen my other (lengthy) comments about if this is canon or not, but this one will just be on this video, and dude I wanna thank you a ton. Almost nobody is talking about this at all, and not only did you do a story breakdown of it but you also covered its canonicity, and implications, all in one video and only 2 days later? This is why I am not only subscribed but happily a member. You make really great content about things nobody else does, you do it fairly fast and with super high quality, as well as just overall being an awesome guy and even reading my (admittedly absurdly long) comments and respond to them all? Serious props to you, the community you have created and the success you have so far (hopefully with more to come). Even being on this site for over a decade, and watching it each and every day, you're still my favorite KZreadr by a mile. Can't say how much I really appreciate you dude. As for others, this is where I personally watched this (with no commentary which is nice) kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGmg3Khxe8vOoNY.htmlsi=RFW248nkBbSu4O6e and feel free to check out Phil McCartney (the co-writers) AMA on reddit here, it provides some really cool behind the scenes details: www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1d4soir/i_co_wrote_the_marvel_what_if_experience_ama/?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

You are so nice to say all that, Mark. Love your comments and enjoy reading them every time. And I love the community as a whole, as I learn new things from every comment. Lastly, really appreciate you posting the vid where people can watch the walkthrus. Thanks as always!!

@markdarc0448

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U of course dude, thanks to you too

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@markdarc0448 😊

I don’t want it to be canon in general, but if it is canon, I hope they show that by making one of the agents that works with DP&W just some guy with an AR headset that covers his entire face and Deadpool mocks the guy.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol...okay, now that would be hilarious if someone showed up in DP&W wearing an AR headset!

From the moment they say "There's a spell that lets you wield all the infinity stones, basically without consequences, didn't you know?" this automatically becomes non-canon because if this spell has always been around, there's no fricking way neither Strange or Wong or the Ancient One, or any of the sorcerers in the final battle in Endgame wouldn't have known about it and brought it up to Tony/Bruce the SECOND they learned of what Thanos wanted to do. Also, there's no way that 616 movie Thanos himself wouldn't have known about this considering how it was literally his life's goal since he was young and saw his planet die, to have all the stones and do the snap. Even if we take this Wong's word and accept that "learning to do magic and handle all six stones would take decades", Thanos would ABSOLUTELY still spend any amount of time necessary to accomplish his goal, because he literally took decades going around halfing the populations of planets by himself anyway. I cannot believe that learning magic, which, may I remind everyone, that magic is a thing literally anyone can learn to do in the MCU, in relatively a short amount of time, even with disabilities (it took Strange, a HUMAN MAN, at most, a year to become proficient in magic, even with screwed-up hands) and that doing magic is a thing you can sometimes even accomplish by accident (see Ned in NWH), wouldn't be a more viable and immediate road in Thanos' eyes to complete his mission, instead of him doing what he actually did, which was: Go around culling planets (a thing that absolutely would've been faster to do if he had even basic magic, and that he was doing one planet at a time in the first place only BECAUSE he did not have the stones), and in-between doing that, nabbing random kids, taking time to train them, and sitting in his floaty chair sending said children and other random goons to actually go and get him the things he wanted, and THEN, going to a space forge few knew existed to kill everyone there to force one guy to make a magic glove for him because he got tired of waiting around doing nothing. Also it doesn't take decades to learn, Wong, because you literally say "ok let me actually stop being sarcastic and teach you in 5 minutes how to do it", and then he does it and that's it. Meaning that if we, normal human people from our non-magical-ass earth can do this spell, Thanos would've cracked how to do it the second he skimmed the instructions for it off of whatever book they give you when you become Sorcerer Supreme. (Also, this is A Wong, from SOMEWHERE, but he can't be THE Wong from the MCU main timeline because if it is and he's casually just friends with the Watcher now, that also opens a bunch of different plotholes, so this is clearly just a random Wong the Watcher knows from one of the infinite branched animated timelines he oversees, of which some are included and are episodes of the What If show. The Watcher actually revealed to not actually be the Watcher here doesn't invalidate this complaint, btw, because the mere fact this story begins with them already clearly aware of each other, who they are and what they do, implies a prior connection, so, again, can´t be the 616 Wong). So no. This "hand of Agamotto" spell would break everything; this is just a fun, non-canon, Marvel multimedia thing that needed an easy-to-follow plot and that will promptly never, ever be mentioned again, except for MAYBE a passing easter egg shoutout in the next season of What If (and considering What If Season 3's rocky production, the fact that many characters that showed up in this game, such as Red Guardian, only do appear because Marvel animation already had 3D models of them made for their debut in S2 of the show, making it easy for the people behind this game to just re-use/re-skin them for it; but then, the episodes of the show these characters were supposed to show up in first, because of said rocky production, ended up being pushed back to S3, making them debut in animated form here first by accident. Add to this the fact it's already basically confirmed that S3 is to be the last season of that show, I don't think they'll even acknowledge this game there, either)

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Well said...I agree 100%. Also, the fact that Wong has a spell to jump into and out of Soul World seems crazy to me. And then that final boss battle is somehow outside the Multiversal Tree and Wong cast a spell that took them outside the tree and now they can all breathe in outer space (or whatever the space is between trees)? No way it's canon. I think it's a fun game with a clever story, but was never meant to be canon to the MCU.

While I'm happy this particular game isn't canon, I do think it would be very interesting for Marvel Studios to make a canon game. We've gotten Marvel Television and Marvel Animation divisions. Maybe Marvel Gaming is next.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...Star Wars has been very successful at it, so I'd love to see Marvel make a game that is canon. I suspect it would sell really well!

I kinda wonder if this is a universe that is similar to, yet different to mainline 616 MCU. So it’s still canon, yet it isn’t canon to the MCU universe we know. It’s prob not canon, but it could be canon adjacent where it is apart of the MCU multiverse, but we won’t see any of these characters appear at all.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...that's a good way to view it. Great feedback!

What's crazy is I knew nothing about this game's plot but was wondering earlier today if Wanda could eventually replace Loki as a protector of the universe to come

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Niiiiice! Yeah, this game definitely showed how Wanda can power up. Really hope we get to see her again soon!

The Watcher and Wong could be numbering the branches to keep track of them

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Right...that's the best explanation I can come up with. Nice call!

I also hadn't realized that Wanda was literally outside of the Loki Multiverse tree at the end there. Definitely makes the setting a lot cooler to think that our Loki is just right there in the center just watching it all happen lol. I also hadn't put into perspective how the tree we see is just the main MCU plus ALL of it's branch timelines as opposed to other universes like the Fox-Verse(s), Sony-Verse(s) etc

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Right! My understanding of the multiversal model is that there are multiple "trees" and that 616 and its branched universes form one tree, but 838, Tobey, Andrew, Fox, paint, etc are all different trees. It makes alot of sense when you consider that America was the only one that could jump over to 838...so it must be a separate tree for that reason. Very cool stuff!

I'm so glad that you made this video! I have no Apple Vision Pro, so I couldn't play this, but I don't mind spoilers. The story seems very cool as well, I hope they eventually release it on other platforms as well. As for the game itself, of course I haven't played it, so I have to go off of what you said in the video, but I also agree that it's not canon. Or at least not to the main 616 universe, because of the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer. While I was watching the video I thought that maybe it could have been canon to the 616 universe, but it's just set in the very distant past, maybe in some weird branch far away from the root timeline (that would explain, for example, why there are no branches on the TVA monitor that Miss Minutes shows you: the universe could be in its infancy, just after HWR isolated it from the Multiversal War going on in the larger megaverse, before it started branching out). But then you mentioned the trailer, so that seals it for me: it can't be the main 616 universe. It COULD be canon to the Deadpool and Wolverine universe, though. In that case, I don't think it's weird that Miss Minutes shows you a trailer for the new movie: she's just recruited you in their version of the TVA and she's telling you what your next mission will be about. So, if the game is canon to that universe, then you either destroy the stones and get recruited in their version of the heroes of the multiverse alongside of Captain Carter, or you return the stones and get recruited in their version of the TVA (and in this case it would be cool to have an easter egg to this in the new movie!). But personally, I hope it's not canon because, as I already said multiple times in past comments, I don't like the idea of there being multiple TVAs. There is only one TVA, and it's the one from the Loki show. It would make no sense to me to have other, completely separate multiverses (or "trees", as you call them), each with their own TVA. I still have my judgment suspended about the TVA shown in the new Deadpool movie, and I hope that they're just going to confirm that it's the same one as Loki. And if not, they better have a REALLY good explanation for why it's not. So I guess we'll see, but for now, my claim is that no, this game is not canon. Definitely not to the 616 universe.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great comment as always. Yeah, it's very hard to find a way to make this canon. I do like the overall story and the game looks like a ton of fun to play, but I just don't think Marvel intended this to be canon. It's just a fun game for Marvel fans to dig abit deeper into the infinite possibilities of the multiverse!

Good video! What weighs in for it being non-canon is that most of the cutscene feature different VAs than whenever we do the immersive gameplay. For instance, that is not Jeffrey Wright voicing the Watcher whenever he speaks to us, but whenever he introduces us to a new universe, it sounds like it's him. Same with Josh Brolin voicing Thanos in cutscenes, but you can clearly hear it when he says "the hardest choices require the strongest wills" at the end, that is not Josh Brolin To me, all of this implies that the game was made using scenes from the upcoming third season of What If, and (kind of sloppily) put together to make the game's story. It's why the timelines are numbered kind of randomly, it's why our character can just manipulate infinity stones from other universes and destroy them even though it's supposed to be a bad thing etc I hope I'm wrong because then that would mean Marvel kind of spoiled 4 of their episodes' plots, but that seems to be what's happening to me

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very interesting theory! I agree, I kinda hope that isn't the case, as I would hate for them to have spoiled some of the plots to the upcoming What If season 3, but you may be onto something there!

26:51-These 2 endings remind me a LOT about how the game Marvel: Ultimate Alliance ends; throughout the game, there are several different side quests and objectives and at the end of the game, The Watcher goes over all of them and the good AND bad consequences of each choice/decision

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Nice! Yeah I thought it was a very clever way to end the game and it's not surprising to hear it was also used in Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. I definitely would have chosen the wrong path regarding the stones. But it was fun to see how both paths turned out.

I don’t really care if Marvel eventually tells us that this isn’t canon, Hela just wanting her puppy is too adorable to be non-canon. Also, there’s the whole thing of “If there’s infinite universes, then sometimes there could be repeats of timelines”, so maybe both endings are canon, but they’re just far enough removed from what we see in the MCU and each other that it doesn’t really matter, because they just won’t ever interact with each other.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...young Hela just wanting her puppy back home again was so cute. And when she asked us to bring it back to life, I was like "YAS, do it NOW!" Canon or not, I do feel the entire story was alot of fun and very well written.

We got Hush in the MCU before an X-Men solo movie.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol...very true!

I dont see how the timeline numbers are confusing. I really like it, in fact. I was wanting something like that to be done so we can make clear both which Universe (like 838) and Timeline we are seeing at any given moment of a movie or show. Universe: 838 Timeline: (fill in number here) And it shows Superior Iron Man looking to get revenge for the deaths of the Illuminati. Loki Season 2 started by telling us whether characters visited a branch or the Sacred Timeline, but rules and consisitency need tofully blossom from teases to on-screen guides/tools. Maybe the specific numbers used in the game are arbitrary, but we still need reference points in the actual canon. I believe they have given us enough to figure out (with Loki, Multiverse of Madness, and What If) that, like you said, the Tree is one of many. In fact, Beau Demayo, director for X-Men '97, was told to view that universe as a neighboring tree, and he says "[I'm] Sure a few leaves from one tree can mingle with another at some point." So you're on the right track. There is more than one tree. We will have confirmation at some point, I can feel it.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good points about the numbering. I do like it. I just wish we knew who (from an in-universe standpoint) was doing the numbering. Was it the Watcher, Wong, Scarlet Witch, etc. I would suspect it could be the Watcher, as I don't know that Wong or Scarlet Witch would be interested in numbering the individual timelines. And since no one in the game referenced the numbering, it makes me wonder if the in-universe characters were oblivious to the numbering and only we as the player saw it. Hope that makes sense. I just love digging into the lore of the MCU and in this case, I really want to know the purpose of the numbering and who was doing it. Anyway, great feedback as always!

Regarding the TVA and Deadpool, I think this being an ad for D&W says alot about certain things. The people making this game had to have been handed at least a basic synopsis of the most important things the movie includes so that they could write that Miss Minutes ending. Meaning that Wade working for Agent Paradox and the TVA, as well as the TVA still pruning PEOPLE, but not timelines, must be an important fundational part of the story if they were comfortable to just include it here. The Lamentis thing is most likely just asset recycling. The people making this game probably got handed 3D models of TVA stuff that was already from the Loki show itself, and the Lamentis text is there on the monitor because they most likely didn't bother to change it when they imported/exported the model to plop it into the game. However, Miss Minutes being present at all, and the mention of pruning (not to mention that we've already seen the TVA in the Deadpool and Wolverine trailers still using the prune sticks) tells me that what we last saw of the TVA in Loki season 2 is not going to match exactly with how they're portrayed in D&W. Maybe because of deliberate story reasons, but to me what seems more likely is that its due to these latest MCU movies being made when the prior projects they're supposed to connect to aren't yet completed, story-wise, resulting in the people making them not knowing what was happening in the prior installment when they're filming the follow up, (see the inconsistencies with Wandavision and MoM, or Secret Invasion and The Marvels as the clearest examples of this), which would explain why the more we hear about the TVA in this new movie, the more it sounds like it functions like the TVA from Loki Season 1, pre-He Who Remains reveal. Because when the script for Deadpool 3 was being written, the only thing fully out that featured the TVA was the first season. This maybe is a bit conspiranoic of me, but that would also explain why, in the early days of rumors for Deadpool 3, the thing that was always commonly reported as fact was that Owen Wilson would reprise his role as Mobius in the movie, in a major way. Only when Season 2 of Loki was about to come out, were the Owen Wilson reports dropped almost completely, and Matthew Mcfadyen was said to be Paradox, fulfilling the same role Wilson would have as Mobius in the movie. Its almost like when the original script for Deadpool 3 was written, it had Mobius in it, and ONLY when they realized how Loki Season 2 was going to end, with Mobius retiring out of the TVA, was when they changed it last minute, switching Mobius' character into Paradox's.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good theories...Hopefully we'll get all those excellent questions you raise answered when DP&W comes out. Fingers crossed. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your feedback on it. Truly appreciate it!

There has been teased that there is going to be at least one canon game.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I really hope that happens...I love the idea of a canon game!

Props to all the people who bought an Apple vison pro and played this.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? They are the true heroes of the multiverse!

We've got more soul stone lore here than in the main MCU 💀

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? That was one of the more interesting aspects of the game, imo. Like we barely learned anything during the Infinity Saga about soul world.

Marvel has given us so much exposition, demonstrations , and clues to how the wider multiverse works. It’s crazy how much . There shouldn’t be any debate . Just take the plot of Multiverse of Madness into account . Think about the rules established in that film alone. They made it clear only America Chavez can traverse the multiverse without risking incursions. That’s why Wanda wanted to kidnap her . We see Wanda(and Doctor Strange using magic to traverse TIMELINES in WhatIf and in the game. Even this is used to show us the difference between timeline hopping and tree hopping. It’s quite brilliant . I think

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Preach it!

Yea I think the “timeline ####” is just which timeline they are in Loki’s tree. They didn’t say universe ####, they specifically designated timeline. Plus it can work as the TVAs 616-### system they did in Loki since the Watcher apparently knows Miss Minutes here Small detail also, that wasn’t the first time we saw Vision in soul world. He was actually the one narrating the opening scene

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Right...I think your theory on the timeline numbering makes perfect sense. Totally agree. And yeah, it does seem we heard vision in that opening narration. I forgot about that. However, we didn't actually see him in soul world until later, I think. That was such a clever reveal in the story!

I love they used hydra logo from AoS.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great catch...they did indeed! Go AoS!

As Ultron stated: “anything is possible in a multiverse”. So that could mean that this IS canon, it’s just not our same watcher. Or our same captain Carter for that matter. It could also mean that both endings are canon, thereby making enough sense to the player character to appear in deadpool and wolverine.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very true...that's a good way to view it. Either way, definitely looks like a cool game. I just hope our Watcher isn't the one recruiting bros sitting on the couch eating chips and dip to then try to save the multiverse. That ain't how 616 rolls...amiright?

@Notlikehawkman

Ай бұрын

Well you don’t know what the player character was up to. They could have done so many things before the events of this game.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Perhaps...but the premise is that the player hasn't done anything special, since Wong is very upset he has to teach us magic from scratch. I mean, I'm honestly not knocking the story of the game, per se. I think the game is very cool and the story has a ton of awesome reveals as it unfolds. I was just commenting on whether or not Marvel intended it to be canon or just intended it to be a fun game to enjoy.

I wonder if we’ll see longer versions of these stories in What If S3 since the Red Guardian/Red Skull Cap story looks kind of close to the one episode they’ve shown a clip for. Would be really weird to introduce these concepts in a game instead of in the show, and we already got a episode focused on Hela that ended similarly last season but I would like to see these concepts fleshed out a little more.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree, the stories were really well done and I do wonder if perhaps they are going to be featured in season 3. That's a good theory!

I had never even heard of this until you covered it. Interesting plot and mechanics, wish I had a vision pro (other than the cost lol). Have an idea for a video though not sure if it's a good one: have you examined the different MCU characters (specifically heroes) with children and what you think their roles will be in the future? Think a video could be made about all we know about Cassie Lang, Morgan Stark, etc. Guess you could even stretch as far as Odin -> Thor/Loki, etc but I more mean actual CHILDREN/teens that will be future key players. might be worth thinking about especially considering young Avengers/ vision quest is nearly upon us.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I wish I had the funds for the game as well. Looks fun, but my word that Vision Pro is expensive! And your suggestion of the children's role in the future of the MCU is pretty cool. Will be interesting to see how many of them become Young Avengers down the road. Wanda's kids Billy and Tommy (assuming we see them again) and Cassie will likely join. I suspect Love won't join (she's sorta Thor's kid, ig) and we likely won't see Heimdall's kid again after L&T. But yeah, that's a good suggestion!

I really wish I could play this myself. This thing is exclusive to a $3500 VR system. Personally, I would've liked to have seen this storyline as a half-season long arc in Season 3. Especially the Red Rogers story.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the Red Rogers story was pretty cool. Would have made a good episode for season 3 of What If, as you pointed out.

I love that you keep us updated with all this stuffs. Keep it up, dude. I appreciate your Marvel contents

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

YW...and thanks so much for the positive feedback. I truly appreciate it!

I didn’t know if you were going to cover this or not but I’m really glad you did! I would’ve never had the chance to check the game out myself. I’m not that fluid 💰😭😭

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, well above my price range, too. But it was cool to learn all about it. Definitely looks like a fun game!

The bad ending gave me vibes of Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 if u didnt finish the sidequests lol

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Excellent analogy to Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1. Love it!

Unless the Kang variant or the OG He Who Remains(from the comics) also created Ms Minutes there is no way she’s running the TVA in Deadpool and Wolverine .

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

100% agree!

This game canonized our actual reality into Loki's multiverse tree. So now I guess all of us are a part of the MCU? I'm guessing our reality is somewhere adjacent to the one we see at the end of She Hulk with K.E.V.I.N.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Niiiice! That's a great point. So yeah, maybe we can ask Wong to take us over to go hang out with K.E.V.I.N. for abit. I'd be down for that!

Been a while good to be back on your channel

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great to have you back! Thanks so much for your support!

As far as multimedia goes, I really enjoy how injustice is handled and this could definitely work, but it’s just not accessible to enough people right now.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I agree, it's a bummer that it's on a platform that most of us (certainly me!) can't afford. But it was fun to break it down none-the-less.

Great video man!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Many thanks! Yeah, that game was looks pretty cool and the story definitely had some unexpected twists and turns!

7:55-Could be a potential Easter egg for different Marvel comics, like maybe each one is in reference to a certain issue?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point! I hadn't considered that, but you may be onto something there.

Man this game looks very fun! I agree though, I don’t think it’s cannon but maybe elements from it can be like Vision dying being an absolute point

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...the game looks really fun. And I do hope some of the nuggets from the game can find their way into the MCU.

I wish they just put this on Disney+. Netflix does things like this all the time.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point...Wouldn't that be nice!

They really made Steve into Hush with this game

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? Hard to avoid making that analogy. Great feedback!

Great breakdown btw! For me when it comes to understanding the differences in branch timelines from other universes I see it as this which is similar to how the Marvel Wiki (a pretty trustworthy source imo) views it: Everything is canon, it just depends what it is canon to. So the game itself is canon but maybe just not canon to the MCU per se similar to how X-Men 97' isn't technically canon to the MCU (as in the singular universe) and I actually really appreciated that the writers/developers took the time to make new reality/earth/timeline numbers for the stories that we do visit. For me that's been something sorely missing from the actual What If...? series

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Well said! I agree, this could be canon somewhere across the multiverse. It's harder for me to imagine it's canon to the main MCU, due to some of the plotlines such as Miss Minutes talking with the Watcher. But yeah, perhaps a different universe would work well for the story. And I agree, I do like the numbering of the timelines / universes. I see why the Watcher isn't doing it, since there are an infinite number of them that he's observing, but since we are only seeing a handful of them ourselves, it would be nice to have a way to refer to the ones we see. Excellent feedback!

Cool stuff! Might check this out

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...the game looks pretty cool...definitely a very immersive experience.

So much cool info put into this game... Is it kinda weird that this seems more interesting than What If s1+2 lol? I hope they bring this energy to the third season and finish strong!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...the stories in the game were really cool. Lots of surprising twists and turns. Hopefully this inspires What If Season 3 to go for broke and really wow us!

I don’t know if it’s based on a suit from the comics but Wanda’s suit kind of looks to me like it’s based on Cthon

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Oh, now that's interesting! I wonder if that was intentional.

Great video as always! Very interesting analysis. This is a bit unrelated, but have you considered doing theories about events that happened on unexplored parts of the timeline? For example -Has the hand and the ten rings ever fought each other? -The Eternals ever knew about the Ancient one? -Did Carol found about Ronan's demise? And soo other posibilities. Just a thought

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

What an interesting concept...I agree, lots of ground to cover with that idea!

My worst fear is winning one of the give away but never find out because it was announced on a video I never watched 😭

@pepperidgefarm1003

Ай бұрын

He always announces the winners on the first or second video of any given month, so if you keep that in mind, you'll never miss it.

@vinhluu3950

Ай бұрын

@@pepperidgefarm1003 this is actually the first time I've seen him announce the winner on the video because for some reason I never watched the other videos

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I may start replying to the comment on the video that won, in hopes they will respond. Even people that are regular viewers may miss an announcement that they won. So perhaps that will help.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@pepperidgefarm1003 Right...I try to announce it on the first or second video of each month. And if that video is one that might get lower viewership (such as a Bad Batch breakdown...I loved the show, but those vids didn't get as many views), then I try to do it a second time on the next video.

Damn I really love your channel!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks...really appreciate that!

Maybe, or just in what if universe. I think Wong is 616

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Agreed...I think Wong is 616 and the branches are the what if universes. Well said!

Thank you so much for doing this video, I read a resume in "Twitter" But it's so much better in a video and obviously the way that you explain makes everything better! 😊 I love to make theories whether is canon or not but one thing I would love it's to see this history in a What If season, I think It would be better 😢 But I agree completely with all the "canon" things, like it doesn't make sense the Loki's tree fight whiteout consequences to that hahah

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I had alot of fun breaking it down. It was a really cool story with lots of twists and turns. I suspect it isn't canon, but I did like the overall narrative and young Hela was so sweet seeing how she cared so much for Fenris.

@grecia_gs

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U I agree!!! Hela an Fen was so cute 🥹💜

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

💯

Love all you do but I just wanted to say regarding your video on the placement on the timeline of agents of shield in s4 episode 15 of AoS Jemmas gravestone says she died in November 8 2017. Just wanted to add that

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great feedback! So, I could be wrong, but I thought we couldn't see the year during the actual episode, as it was covered with leaves. However, the Agents of SHIELD Season Four Declassified (an artbook) shows that gravestone without any leaves covering the year and it indicates she died on November 8, 2016. But either way, we can ignore that date for timeline placement, since it is a date in the framework and not in the main timeline. Let me know your thoughts on that. And thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your feedback. Truly appreciate it!

Its for sure canon for some degree, since everything now is kinda canon, i honestly doubt game will have any bigger importance to multiverse saga but, also i think destroying stones ending is the real one and second one is because it have to be in it and to promote Deadpool 3

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yep, good thoughts on the game. I would agree that the Miss Minutes stuff isn't canon and that it was just a clever way to market the movie. Can't wait for it to arrive in less than 2 months!

Great video

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback!

I have a a theory that explains the Deadpool section: I believe who we are playing is who of those faceless tva troopers in D&W. More specifically it’s the one from the trailers that gets eaten up by alioth. That one I believe will played by rob mcelhenney and we know he’s gonna be in the movie(thanks welcome to wrexham). And for the inconsistencies that’s miss minutes in league with Paradox to still continue the old tva goals’s of pruning timelines and spreading outdated propaganda. In cinema con paradox mentions the sacred timeline. That makes no sense unless paradox is INTENTIONAL misleading wade to prune the FOX universe. That’s the big twist. Edit: I’m assuming we’re going with the “return the stones” ending

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great theories...very funny to consider that the "hero of the multiverse" ends up being lunch for Alioth!

@Blazecap

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U that be very Deadpool of rob’s tva character saying he saved the multiverse and gets eaten up

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol...indeed!

@PatrickBateman3116

Ай бұрын

Damn that would be Dark and Funny at the same time 🍷

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@PatrickBateman3116 Indeed!

I am so confusing, because in infinity war, the ancient one said that we must have all the six infinity stones in order to the universe still exists. Thanos didnt destroy the stones, they are in the quantum realm I think. If I am wrong, please, say to me.

@ArthurGoldberg-vd9ct

Ай бұрын

Sorry, it was in endgame.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great question. Yeah, my assumption is that the stones weren’t destroyed in the game, but were simply reduced to atoms like in Endgame. Thanos explains that he reduced the stones to atoms, because as you said, if the stones are destroyed then it would cause major issues for the universe, as the stones control all aspects of reality.

Thanks to the multiverse, everything is canon, and nothing matters. I hope after this Saga the MCU goes back to more of a “linear” (very loosely using linear here) story

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I do agree that the stakes are lowered abit with the multiverse. I suspect that things will indeed become more linear after the soft reboot of Secret Wars.

I'm definitely interested in playing it when I can afford it. Also, I think it's a good idea to have a sub numbering for the branches inside of the universe. I have no clue who's numbered them in universe, though.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I'd love to play it as well. Seems like a really fun game. And I do like the numbering. I think that would be really handy to have all the universes numbered!

I saw a book the other day at the store it's a marvel book What if..Loki was worthy, Would you ever do a video talking about it?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I need to check the book out. It sounds like a good book and would be a fun topic for a vid!

I think if they do consider it canon, the Watcher will mention the events of Scarlet Witch destroying the Multiverse in What If...? S3 but that is it. I don't think they can have the Hero of the Multiverse be a character in the show since they would never be able to design the character accurately since both men and women will play the game

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point! So, my initial question was whether this was canon to the main MCU (i.e. Loki's tree). The Miss Minutes scene, imo, makes no sense in the context of the main MCU, so I think it isn't tied to 616. But honestly, even if it's part of the greater multiverse, I can't imagine that Wong is able to cast a spell to transport everyone outside of the multiverse for that final boss battle. We've never seen that anyone except the watcher (a 5th dimensional being) is able to reside outside the multiverse like that. And the battle is out in space, but everyone can breathe? It's just a weird scene, even if the battle itself is cool. So my gut feeling is that it isn't meant to be canon at all, but ig with the multiverse, anything's possible. Anyway, great feedback as always!

I don’t think it’s canon to the MCU, but it could be canon to the actual Marvel multiverse, where you have the comics and games and whatnot. It may also be worth noting that there are a whole bunch of MCU video games that never got consideration as canon, for reasons like you listed, so this being non-canon isn’t really a big deal.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great feedback! So, my initial question was whether this is canon to the main MCU (i.e. Loki's tree). The Miss Minutes scene makes no sense in the context of the main MCU, so I think it isn't tied to 616. But honestly, even if it's part of the greater multiverse, I can't imagine that Wong is able to cast a spell to transport everyone outside of the multiverse for that final boss battle. We've never seen that anyone except the watcher (a 5th dimensional being) is able to reside outside the multiverse like that. And the battle is out in aspace, but everyone can breathe? It's just a weird scene, even if the battle itself is cool. So I think your analysis is spot on!

Looking forward to this.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

It is a pretty cool looking game and the story is interesting and has some nice twists. Hope you enjoyed the video breakdown!

@LeoChaseTheMythMaster

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U I did!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉

story looks amazing

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...the overall story is very cool. Regardless of whether it's canon or not, it had lots of fun surprises and reveals. They did a great job putting the story together!

well this sounds amazing

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the game looks really cool. I don't think it's meant to be canon, but it does seem like alot of fun to play!

don’t think it’s a coincidence so far every absolute point has Involved death. Palmer, Genosha, and now vision. I’m more confident Deadpool and Wolverine will bring up perhaps Logan’s death is also an absolute point. There’s one scene of him looking distraught at a field of grave stones. What if those aren’t x-men but other wolverines? His death and perhaps even the death of Mutants in the FOX universe can only be delayed. However over they join the larger marvel universe can they change their fate. That be SO thematically fitting with movies like days of future past and how destiny isn’t set.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I love it! That's a great observation about Absolute points. That would be so cool if they go that direction in DP&W. Excellent theory!

Wow this game´s story is just great

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...so many cool twists and turns in the story. It was really well done!

I hope it’s not canon since it’s so expensive in order to play… I’d happy if they made it more accessible to fans in the future tho

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very true...at that price tag, it better not be canon!

8:05 Cool to see carol in a nova corpse inspired uniform. I really want that project more now! Stop teasing us marvel 12:40 I’m starting to wonder if Reed Richards was wrong about Stephen strange being the greatest threat to the multiverse. Wanda here, back in MoM, and the upcoming zombies show. 23:03 feels rude to say you seemly making the “right” morally speaking ends up being wrong. Also hey miss minutes 24:40 the tva HR development is gonna love this(sarcasm) 23:45 Cool

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great feedback...Love how you commented along as you watched the vid. Basically like a play by play color commentor. Maybe you need to put a call in to the NBA?

@Blazecap

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U I’ll keep that in mind and thank you for amazing content

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and positive feedback on the vid!

Wait, they made a What If game?! And of what I just glanced it sounds like I wouldn't be able to play it anyway given what it's on. And of course you had to slip the Paint Universe in haha. The timeline numbering is very odd ... maybe it's just a vague thing or it's using the TVA's numbering but excluding the 616 part because they seen that as a given? I dunno. Very cool to see a younger Hela, I like that. It's interesting how Wanda's design is nothing like the MCU but Vision ... looks almost identical to the MCU. Also ... shattering her power across the multiverse ... sounds like a Nexus being if you ask me. Maybe. Although Miss Minutes timeline doesn't display as 616, so I wonder if it's not canon? Or if it's canon it's not the 616 tree potentially ... especially with that Deadpool part ... yeesh. But is the game canon ... no. I also feel like there is so much that interferes with the current canon too. Either way great video as usual.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great catch about Wanda's uniform being so different and Vision being the same as the MCU. Dude needs an outfit upgrade. And I like your idea about what happened to Wanda being tied to her being a nexus being (did I just use the word being three times in the same sentence)? And yeah, doesn't seem like the game is canon. Just a fun game that I wish I could play if I could afford it!

Hey, i'm just wondering on why the decision at the end of the game had the impact it did? Personally, I thought returning the stones to their respective timelines would have restored order, much like shown in endgame, but instead it has a negative impact.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that surprised me as well. I assumed returning them was the right answer. That said, the people that received the stones were enticed by the power they had and ended up using it unwisely. So ig the game is saying the best choice is for no one to have the stones in the end.

I didn't even know this was a thing

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's pretty cool, tbh. Love that Marvel is trying new stuff like this!

I do think it is slightly canon. The version where the stones are destroyed is the canon version. It seems it is the same Hela Goddess of Life from What if S2 and it looks like it’s the same Bucky and Red Guardian from S3. We’ll just have to see if they meet up with a scarred Steve Rogers then we’ll definitely know it’s canon. Also Harry Styles is officially brother of Thanos

@kkplaysgd

Ай бұрын

Bro, if it's canon and our universe gets destroyed in a incursion during Secret Wars, I'll be blaming you 😭😭

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point...maybe What If season 3 will provide some answers and some connections!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@kkplaysgd

Are the voice actors the same as the ones from What If and the other MCU projects? I can’t find an IMDB page for the game. This could be a factor in the canon argument?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good question...I think only Ryan Reynolds was the same voice actor (and ofc, that was just a trailer clip). You can find the actors names on the MCU Wiki page here: marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/What_If...%3F_%E2%80%93_An_Immersive_Story

I wanna try the game

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? Looks like a really cool game!

Thanks for doing a breakdown! I can't play it because I can't afford a Vr.😁👍

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yep, I'm in the same boat. I was so glad people did the playthrough videos so that I could then make this video. I'd love to play, but it's waaaaay too far out of my price range!

Wouldn't destroying the stones mean that all 6 timeline we gathered those stones from die based on what we learn in Endgame. Also there is no way this can be canon due to Miss Minutes. By Miss Minutes own logic, every timeline in the Tree should be pruned including all the once we visited in the game. Unless whomever made this game didn't know the difference between Branch Timelines and Universes like 838. Though if we want to play devils advocate, who ever said this was the 616 tree. This could be a completely different Universe with a different TVA. Could even be Earth 838 or something. Oh or maybe each person who plays this game has there own tree. But in all likelihood it's not canon. If you have to do that much speculation to make it canon, then it's likely not canon.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, destroying the stones at first seems like it could be an issue. But as long as they were just reduced to ashes (similar to what Thanos did in Infinity War) ig it might be okay. And I agree, none of the Miss Minutes stuff makes sense. I would be okay, however, if this was a totally different tree in the multiverse. The game could indeed work out okay in that case. Thanks so much for the great feedback on the vid. Really appreciate it!

You've probably mentioned this in a previous video, but I just want to clarify -- are Absolute Points and Canon Events the same thing?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Honestly, I don't think they've answered that for us. To me, an absolute point is something you can't reset in your own timeline (like Christine's death or Vision's death) while a canon event is something that must occur in all timelines (like Genosha or the Spider canon events). So the two concepts seem slightly different to me. But I do hope we get an official answer on that. You ask a fantastic question.

They could just say that this was all just a dream 😂….but then again they already established that dreams are canon too so Nevermind 😅

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol! Very true...even dreams end up canon to the MCU!

Interestingly enough, a clip from the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode "Turn, Turn, Turn" is used for World War II???

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? Isn't that wild. AoS lives!

@WhiteRaven696

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U It’s happened a couple of times when “generic” footage from AoS showed up elsewhere in the MCU. IIRC, the very first shot from the Pilot (which is just sped up foot traffic in LA) was featured in one of the trailers for Infinity War? People went FERAL at the time.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Niiiiice!

I was about to say the following question is unrelated to the topic of the video, but seeing how this game was actually just a covert ad for Deadpool 3, I guess it isn't completely unrelated after all: This channel has always been family friendly, and you often soften or omit saying curse words, even if they're directly from dialogue of the movie/show you're covering, but with Deadpool and Wolverine being the first R-Rated Marvel Studios film, can we expect your review for it to also be the first R-Rated "A bit of Everything" video? I think it would be fitting (and frankly very funny to hear you actually curse). Or at least give us one "F*ck" in that Deadpool & Wolverine review. Just once, like Colossus in Deadpool 2. We know you can do it.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol! Love how you shared that suggestion. Oh man, that's a tall order to go Rated R, but I agree, if there's a time to do it, it's with Deadpool. I just don't want to all-mighty youtube algorithm to lose favor with me. If you get on its bad side, it's had to win it over again. But I'll give it some thought. Definitely would shock alot of people to hear a massive f-bomb in the middle of the vid!

What If is giving me Infinity Stone fatigue. It's was fine in S1. But then S2 brought them back again with all the other Universe enders. And then we get this game which not only makes it look so easy for a timeline hopper to collect all six but they keep getting more powerful. At this point I don't understand how Thanos lost in Endgame / Infinity War. Not to mention Infinity Ultron or anyone else with all six. Also how does the Mind Stone die? Like that's a thing now? Even if Vision survived in Infinity War the Mind Stone will just die one day. Is that what happened to Earth 838 Vision or is this only a 616 Mind Stone thing? So many questions.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...I hope we don't get more infinity stone stories in season 3. You make a great point that Thanos starts to look sillier and sillier for losing in Endgame.

In regards to the timelines/universes (still hate that What If...? calls them universes, but now this game uses BOTH?!) being numbered, it might be similar to the TVA designations. Every branch was labeled as 616 dot something. So maybe these timeline numbers are what would come AFTER the dot. I'm not sure exactly why different timelines or branches hsve specific designstions, or more specifically what gives them those designstions, but that's my guess. Maybe it's just the order in which these branches branched off of the Sacred Timeline. Edit: Absolute points remain the same in ALL timelines? That's... interesting. I haven't seen X-Men 97 yet, but that seems contradictory to what What If...? established. Unless it's literally in a different universe similar to 838, and is completely disconnected from 616. Don't know why different universes would hsve different rules for the same concepts, though.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Fantastic feedback. Yeah, I really don't like that What If calls them universe and Loki calls them timelines, but yeah, this game one-upped them and uses both! Sigh. And to your second point, I was also abit surprised about the absolute points being across all universes/timelines. To me, an absolute point is something you can't reset in your own timeline (like Christine's death or Vision's death) while a canon event is something that must occur in all timelines (like Genosha in X-Men 97 or the Spider canon events). So the two concepts seem slightly different to me. But I do hope we get an official answer on that. You ask a fantastic question.

All marvel gotta do is drop it on quest

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Agreed…that would be great!

Well in the marvel site they said that it's a sequel of what if so it's canon i guess

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I'll have to check that site out, but if you look at all of the elements of the story that seem to break the canon we already know (especially that crazy scene with Miss Minutes), it's just hard for me to imagine that Feige would call it canon. But regardless, I did really like the overall story and it had some really fun twists to it!

Wouldn’t the timeline numbers be prefaced by 616 in the TVA.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Right...my guess is that it's the same thing we saw happening in Loki by the TVA and in this case we aren't seeing the 616 in front due to someone else using a different method of numbering the timelines. I'm still unsure who the game is imply is doing the numbering, tbh.

I don't know if I can say that the game is Canon or not, but I think that if it is Canon, the good ending is the one that happens because of all the jokey material that occurs after the bad ending. Marvel isn't above jokes, but because of how erroneous and the type of humor taking place, at the very least, the bad ending would be the non-canonical version. I wouldn't discount the price threshold excluding it from canon either as Star Wars did have the Vader Immortal thing, too in which you aren't plucked from your couch, but you do play as a random nobody that is working for the Rebels. Similar thing also happened with the VOID where you were in a space with virtual reality goggles and a whole backpack and gloves and things to use all of your senses, and you could actually walk around in and infiltrate Vader's castle on Mustafar, pushing actual buttons and pulling levers and whatnot. I'm not sure how Canon that story is, but I wouldn't discount it either. The big thing though is that it's not likely to impact anything else going forward, so being Canon or not is kind of irrelevant. Because this is so niche and made for a market that the vast majority of MCU fans can't engage in, nothing will likely come from this. If we follow Star Wars' tier structure, it's Movies, Shows, Books, Comics, Games, Reference Material. Canon can be overwritten by something on a higher tier, and engaging in lower tier material can make for a more full experience in a higher tier, but a high tier is less likely to be affected by a lower tier. The MCU does seem to have Movies and Shows a bit more on an even playing filed, but even Marvel Studios is starting to split things up so that fans can be more selective in what stories they engage in. Even stuff like the Netflix series, while recently being made Canon to the sacred timeline, they're still primarily self contained, and it's hard to say when they'll have any elements begin to be referenced in the movies sans Matt Murdock, who was added to Spider-Man before the recanonization event, so it really only counts retroactively. Same thing with Kingpin in Hawkeye and eventually Echo, who have still only been in shows up to this point. So I guess it's technically Canon in some form or fashion, either to Marvel Cinematic ventures as a whole (meaning everything ever) or even to the Sacred Timeline from Loki, but I'm dubious it will really matter or be referenced, so it might as well not even be Canon. For my headcanon, I'm certainly not going to be concerned with it.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Wow, Vader Immortal sounds like fun! Star Wars has had some really cool games!

@MCLegoboy

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U Honestly wouldn't know. I just remember what Star Wars Explained shared of it, and it's partly why Mustafar looks the way it does in The Rise of Skywalker, which on the one hand is cool in terms of continuity, but also, it looks like Mustafar from space, and then not at all on the surface, not making it clear what was going on in the movie, so do I blame Vader Immortal for making Mustafar not look like Mustafar anymore, or do I blame all the folks on Episode IX under a rushed schedule making odd decisions? I guess I really blame Disney for the second half, but then I'd rather just end the Sequels in 2019 than have all this buildup for a clunker halfway through Big Time Coroni in 2021 because there was no fixing that movie.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, those sequels causes alot of issues, unfortunately. It seems Disney is finally figuring out Star Wars, but they really did some early missteps with the sequel trilogy.

Honestly if the game was not canon they would also probably said it...but the official marvel site described it as a sequel of what if so i guess it is canon ?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ig it could be canon, but if you look at all of the elements of the story that seem to break the canon we already know (especially that crazy scene with Miss Minutes), it's just hard for me to imagine that Feige would call it canon. But regardless, I did really like the overall story and it had some really fun twists to it!

@idris345

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U i mean they probably break the Canon for the plot purposes...

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Could be...it has indeed happened before that they do a retcon and break canon. Maybe we'll get lucky and Feige will provide an official stance on the game. But in the meantime, your theory is very valid about it possibly being canon.

This is something

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

It is indeed...game looks cool and the story had some nice twists!

What does timeline for?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good question...it shows how all of the different movies (Tobey, Andrew, Venom, etc) tie into the MCU.

is the fact that the MCU 616 is headed for disaster ever going to be brought up, since we no longer have the infinity stones in it. remember Thanos did destroy them in ENDGAME and they ancient one said the timelines will be headed for something worse without them

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great question...so Thanos clarified that he reduced them to atoms. So my guess is that even in their atomic form, they are still able to control the elements of the universe. But you do raise a good point that it could cause problems eventually and may even lead to the ultimate destruction of reality. Fascinating!

@juniorlesegoragontse7710

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U I figured it might be reason for secret wars if ever they continue that plot line

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Right! It's a good theory for sure!

No way it's canon. They couldn't make it canon even if they wanted simply because how many people will have the chance to learn about this story? Like only a few thousand Vision Pro's were sold. If this is canon, the cleanup from the mess will be disastrous and the risk will not be worth it especially for Marvel and Disney right now. Let's just consider it's a Marvel Appleverse story.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point! The sheer fact that such a limited audience has access to it makes it unlikely to be canon. Plus, I just have no clue how Wong was able to transport everyone outside of the multiverse for that final boss battle. I think it was just a fun game that has no impact on the MCU. Love your Marvel Appleverse idea. lol!

what if?... you mean the Animated Captn Carter show?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Correct....this game adapts the What If show as an immersive experience. It's a really cool story, even if I'm thinking it isn't meant to be canon, per se.

So is like Wanda more powerful than Loki now?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

The game sure makes it seems that way. imo, that's another reason the game isn't canon, as I can't imagine Wanda being able to jump outside the multiversal tree. The Watcher is a 5th dimensional being, so it makes sense that he can do it, but I just don't see how Wanda could do it.

They repurposed miss minutes to be different, even in deadpool they have prune sticks. Can you truly tell me when loki created. New timeline no, Because its everything happening everywhere all at once

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very true...the Loki series is tough to pin down due to it happening in the TVA which seems to be outside of time. That said, if you haven't seen my video on Marvel's season by season placement of Loki, you might find it interesting: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3dqqrSrpti-l5s.html. It certainly implies that the Loki Tree was created at a specific point in the MCU timeline. Wild stuff!

If this is canon I guess it makes everyone who plays it canon to the mcu multiverse?

@kkplaysgd

Ай бұрын

Our universe will be destroyed in Secret Wars 💀💀💀

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

True...if you've ever want to join the MCU, this is the big chance!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@kkplaysgd Fingers crossed that it's a soft reboot...Maybe our universe can be spared somehow.

So if it’s not 616 canon, is a part of another universe 😂

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Niiiice! Yes, I'd be down with it being part of some other universe...let that universe start recruiting bros sitting on the couch eating tater chips and dip to save the multiverse. But we don't need that in 616! lol!

It’s almost definitely not canon but the idea of potentially canon media ending with a Deadpool trailer is absurdly hilarious

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol...very true...Deadpool sticks his head (and other parts) everywhere he can. Dude just loves the attention!

I hope it is cannon not gonna lie. New New marvel fans aren't aware that there are multiple watchers .

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point! So, my initial question was whether this is canon to the main MCU (i.e. Loki's tree). The Miss Minutes scene, imo, makes no sense in the context of the main MCU, so I think it isn't tied to 616. But honestly, even if it's part of the greater multiverse, I can't imagine that Wong is able to cast a spell to transport everyone outside of the multiverse for that final boss battle. We've never seen that anyone except the watcher (a 5th dimensional being) is able to reside outside the multiverse like that. And the battle is out in space, but everyone can breathe? It's just a weird scene, even if the battle itself is cool. So my gut feeling is that it isn't meant to be canon at all, but ig with the multiverse, anything's possible. Anyway, thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

@jaspershattered

Ай бұрын

@AbitofEverything4U about the space bit there's ton of movies where characters can breathe outside of space etc n have you ever seen any marvel character do much of hygiene very few so I like to think . Just bcz we don't see something sometimes doesn't mean it's cray

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

True...i mean, it could work for them to be able to breathe, ig. It's just that I don't know how Wong was able to cast a spell that took them outside the multiverse. Just seems like something only the Watcher should be able to do. But just my take on it. You could be right that maybe we see something like that happening in the MCU during the multiverse saga at some point.

@jaspershattered

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U same way as a wanda could physically take peggy Carter n our wanda needed to dream walk

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, good point...okay, maybe I'm okay with that final battle then. I mean, it was very cool, so I totally loved the concept. Thanks for all your great feedback on it!

This game looks fun, too bad its on a device not many people will be able to play.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Agreed...I'd love to play the game, but I don't have the available cash to buy that Apple Pro device. But I'm glad people did play throughs so we can see how the game looks.