Also, the Braves are absolutely printing money right now with the Battery. They have a massive incentive to keep this team winning because it turns out the fans/crowds and keeps the revenue climbing. So, while I never would have expected them to go after Shohei I can see why they would, because the amount of revenue he would bring in through their marketing/sales operation would probably still end up providing them a cash surplus against his salary.

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

They're also spending money like no tomorrow. Braves are spending $200mil on the new 250,000 sq ft. Truist Securities headquarters, which is currently being built across the street behind home plate. They also have possibly in the works "The Henery" which is a two tower venture, one being upscale rentals, another is a hotel with small retail shops, along with a bridge crossing the street just outside the left field part of the stadium which would cost millions to build. So people have to remember that. when thinking about the Braves right now, and their funds.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@MassBoostthat building will also be leased out. Truist Securities has already signed a fifteen year agreement for half the building with the option to lease more space as they grow. That building will pay for itself in less than 10 years.

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

@@pjbuma13 Right, but they aren't going have an instant return on it as it takes time to recoup that money spent, and they won't even start seeing a dime of that return till it's done, which might be next year. And like I said, after that they might be starting up yet another project which may cost hundreds of million, but not exactly sure, as I read it might become a joint venture. Then there's still the fact that they have debt on the original construction of the stadium and the Battery, not sure how much they still owe, last I know it was around $600mil.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

@@MassBoost having debt doesn’t mean you’re not making money. Especially now that they are a publicly traded company. I understand what you’re saying that they will owe so much money but the amount they make off of it monthly will be higher than the cost of paying back their loans. It’s like buying a new house and then renting it out for more than your mortgage.

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

@@pjbuma13 I never once said they weren't making money, I said they were also spending money, spending on things that aren't the team. I mean it's just like anyone else in society, you can have a job that pays you a million a year, but if you have bills to pay that consume three quarters of what you make, you may not have a lot to spend. But yeah, year by year they should slowly be making more and more money, and the debt will eventually be paid down. I guess what it comes down to is what Terry McGuirk has waiting in the pipeline? And maybe they're close to paying down that debt? I can't wait till 2027, because then they can also get a much better TV deal once their current one runs out then. The future will indeed be very bright

25-30 home run hitter annually after the Braves work with him. He's going to be good. AA working magic again

Mets can’t say they won the trade as kelnic will be lightning them up within the division

Ha looking back in this now, 700 mil for Shohei, and a AAs wizardry of Sale ended up being very intriguing. I dont think Alex is the type to mess around with Boras, and apparently thsts been a pattern for the league. Vaughn definitely deserves the playing time he will get in Boston, and Sale is really happy to be in Atlanta, and the healthiest he's been in a while. Looking forward to seeing how it all pans out!

What I don't see a ton of people mention is how good Atlanta's hitting coaches are. They've been able to improve the hitting approaches of a lot of guys over the years, and a number of players we traded for at deadlines the past few years are living proof of this. Soler, Rosario, Duval, Grossman, etc. All experienced some form of better hitting after Atlanta's hitting coaches gave them a good look. If you can apply the same kinda thing to Kelenic, you've got yourself what is potentially a really good bat for dirt cheap on the trade market.

AA has said that the luxury tax isn't a problem for the Braves. The real budget limit is the cash expenditure they're actually spending with salaries and luxury tax and everything else.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

The luxury tax isn’t a problem but the real limit is the salaries and luxury tax and everything else? I’m confused is it the luxury tax or is it not the luxury tax? I think the Braves don’t care about the luxury tax as long as the contracts they give out are reasonable and they aren’t overpaying players. As long as the salaries match the players actual worth to the team both currently and for the life of the contract the luxury tax is not that important.

Jake is awesome, nice of you guys to follow him he does a great work with his podcast.

Kelenic is only 23, if he can improve his batting eye, he can be really good. I don't know the other players but Kelenic is a decent catch.

Damn it should've got the Kelenic gear before he left same with autographs, that guy is going to be in Cooperstown.

Braves fans are pumped for this trade. Low risk, high reward for just taking on bad contracts. If he doesn't get traded he'll be the utility guy but I don't think anyone truly expects Grissom to stay with this team very long after this trade.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

I actually do. I said this before they even let Eddie go and started talking about Vaughn in LF, I think they trade high on Ozuna and get rid of his salary and then use Vaughn as the DH. You could still do that with this trade and if you want to platoon and use Kelenic vs righties and the Grissom vs lefties. And On the days Vaughn plays in the field you could DH one of the catchers.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

All that being said I’m not entirely opposed to trading him if it gets us a solid return.

@acgonzales7

6 ай бұрын

​@@pjbuma13 I'm not sure Vaughn fits the DH role as more of an OBP guy but I can see them wanting to save money on Ozuna. Kelenic actually had better production vs LHP last year so platooning doesn't make sense if his L-R splits continue. I can see them keeping Vaughn for UTL/DH if they were to trade Ozuna but the outfield platoon seems like AA hyping up his value now that they have their presumed everyday LF.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

@@acgonzales7 yeah I think the stigma of the DH needs to hit home runs or slug a lot is kind of antiquated. They have some many guys that slug already just getting on base and being a pesky base runner is all they need from him even if it’s in a DH role. I do also like him in a utility role but I don’t know that that nets him a lot of playing time.

@pjbuma13

6 ай бұрын

But again I’m not opposed to him being used as a trade piece. He could definitely provide a lot of value to a team that needs some versatility.

Fire Dipoto. Sell the team Stanton! I’m so over this salary dumping.

Keep him away from water coolers he might just break his foot again.

You can't know who wins until you know what Cole Phillips does.

Braves taking full advantage of some teams that are essentially selling players to trim payroll

I really hope Kelenic does well, very sad our organization dumped him for salary relief

Great move by Atl. High ceiling and very little downside if it doesn't work out. Mostly a money dump by M's, who have some explaining to do

Poor Big Dumper -- $alary dumping all around 😭

Braves are coming in strong this pre season all this spare $ trade options and strength of team Do not expect to be surprised Ohtani Soto & Yamamoto

Should have been Kelenic for Grissom since the Braves needed a LF and Seattle wants more contact hitting and less K's...

@YoungTw

6 ай бұрын

They will probably be platooning lefty/righty

Jared will bat 8 or 7 not pressure as in Seattle

@andonc

6 ай бұрын

Let him hit 9th in front of Acuna. Just ask Harris how that’s worked.

@jeremiah_12

3 ай бұрын

@@andonc that 9 hole is very important, keep Mike at 9 and Kelenic can be 7 or 8. The 9 hitter has crazy protection.

I just wonder if both JK and White even have a real shot to even make the major roster with ATL.

@baseball90242

6 ай бұрын

Who is in left field?

@fliplife67

6 ай бұрын

@@baseball90242 Ounza unless he’s FA.

@MiddleWayLife

6 ай бұрын

Lol. What? You wonder if the guy we paid 25m and a 2nd round pick on will be on the roster...

@fliplife67

6 ай бұрын

@@MiddleWayLife Jered K himself is a left handed hitter who might not even be consistent vs lefty’s. the pitcher is probably the only guy that makes the roster because the Braves need pitching.

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

@@fliplife67 Kelenic produced a 108 wRC+ last year, and has more upside than that as a former first round pick taken at 6 in the draft. The Braves have haven't had over a 99 wRC+ in production in left field since the 2018 season when Acuna last roamed the left field, so a guy who produced better than that, and is only 950ish plate appearance into his career will likely be an upgrade to what the Braves have had over the past 5 years.

It might not happen in 2024, but if Kevin Seitzer can help him improve his pitch selection and reduce his k rate ala Ronald Acuna... he could really be a nice bat with pop and speed.

@hussassain2745

6 ай бұрын

That was probably more so Fernando Tatis Sr’s doing considering the language barrier between Seitzer & Acuña. Not saying it’s impossible tho

@MeargleSchmeargle

6 ай бұрын

This is what we've been saying for a while. Kevin Seitzer is a hitting wizard. He can turn just about anyone halfway decent into Barry Bonds.

Should list the guest name in bio, bare minimum type of stuff. I definitely know his face but can’t remember his name lmfaoo

Could be a steal for the braves. Not just kleinic but Gonzalez if he can stay healthy. Power left arm. Why not!

@joshminn

6 ай бұрын

Gonzales is a soft tosser.

@donaldeggleston6342

6 ай бұрын

Rumor is the Braves plan on trading or cutting gonzales

@Michael-id9bw

6 ай бұрын

Power left arm? Who, Gonzalez? Fastball is pretty much in the upper 80's at this point. He is a fringe number 5 in most rotations at this point. In fact I believe I heard that the Braves are not even going to keep him.

I hate being a Mariner fan

Kelenic for mvp

Dude is a a huge bust!! Good luck, Atlanta!! lol

@nicholasmallard2926

5 ай бұрын

Same was said about Dansby Swanson when he struggled with the D Backs!! Sometimes all a player needs is a change of scenery!

Rosenbum was not the first to break the news lmao. Rosenthal is a bum with plenty bias... you can get more info from KZread. Best of luck to this channel, you gonna need it.

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

Then who was the first to break the news?

@steveo3530

6 ай бұрын

@@MassBoost I saw Jake mastrioni and another random youtube channel speak about it last night lol, anything else? Ill be waiting.......................

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

@@steveo3530 I saw Jake's stream, and that happened well after Ken Rosenthal's tweet. Even that Jim Riley was streaming before Jake's stream, and he showed Rosenthal's tweet upon breaking the news.

Jarred Kelenic is not a breakout guy. The Braves getting Jarred Kelenic is like the Cardinals getting Lance Lynn. AA is a GM, not a God. Don't assume everything he does is golden. This was 5 "bag of baseballs" guys playing musical chairs.

@donaldeggleston6342

6 ай бұрын

Dude was just a top prospect in baseball, is still 24, was playing amazing until he got hurt, and in a year he was considered a disappointment his season stats were still above league average. Not to mention all we gave up was a pitcher we weren’t gonna use and a prospect right out of highschool that just got tj surgery

@steveo3530

6 ай бұрын

I can understand the hate... but its not a good look lmfaoo. Best of luck tonwhatever team you support.

@andrewnorris485

6 ай бұрын

You can make the argument that he's not gonna be amazing, but comparing this to Cards signing Lynne is laughable lol. Two transactions that are nothing alike.

@MassBoost

6 ай бұрын

Lynn is a 36 year old veteran at the end of his career, while Kelenic is a 24 year old with only 950ish plate appearances into his major league career. That's a pretty poor analogy, as Lynn is on the end of his career, while Kelenic hasn't even reached the pinnacle of his career, and likely will be going to get better while Lynn is going down hill.

@MeargleSchmeargle

6 ай бұрын

He's only gonna be 24 this season and has a lot of untapped potential as a hitter. Untapped potential that Atlanta's hitting coaches have proven time and time again that they can bring out of someone.