Break-up with Kejriwal, Kanshi Ram's Slap & Why BJP wont take his calls I Inside out with Ashutosh
Journalist Ashutosh speaks to Barkha Dutt in the 12th Episode of our podcast Inside Out With Barkha Dutt. Releasing tonight. Ashutosh was a key leader of the AAP. Here he talks of why left Arvind Kejriwal and politics, the state of Indian Media and why BSP Founder Kanshi Ram Slapped him.
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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:43 - INTRODUCTION
1:44 - 3:58 - Is journalism more challenging or politics?
3:59 - 5:17 - If Ashutosh Regrets joining politics
5:18 - 6:34 - Did he feel betrayed by Delhi CM Arvind Kejriwal?
6:35 - 7:56 - When BJP & Congress offered Ashutosh to join them
7:57 - 10:41 - Should journalists join politics?
10:42 - 13:45 - How does Ashutosh react to Trolls as a journalist in this social media driven age?
13:46 - 17:53 - If 'India Against Corruption' movement was fair or right?
17:54 - 19:03 - Was 'India Against Movement' backed by RSS?
19:04 - 20:12 - Ashutosh about Kejriwal being a 'Soft Hindutva'
20:13 - 21:51 - Attempts to manipulate Anna Hazare's movement and how Arvind Kejriwal didn't let that happen
21:52 - 24:17 - The moment Ashutosh decided to leave Aam Aadmi Party
24:18 - 28:43 - How Ashutosh's caste was used smartly to garner votes by AAP
28:44 - 29:38 - How has Politics changed Arvind Kejriwal?
29:39 - 30:54 - How is Arvind Kejriwal is similar to PM Modi
30:55 - 31:28 - Arvind Kejriwal as a politician
31:29 - 32:48 - If Ashutosh and Kejriwal are still friends
32:49 - 33:47 - Ashutosh appreciating Kejriwal for being a focused and 'single-minded' person
33:48 - 36:04 - Polarisation in journalism and politics
36:05 - 38:03 - How does he define his journalism in today's political and social environment
38:04 - 40:32 - Every KZreadr is not a journalist
40:33 - 42:07 - How social media has created an authoritarian society
42:08 - 46:59 - When Kanshi Ram slapped Ashutosh
47:00 - 49:45 - Can Journalists criticize the establishment without getting backlash from them?
49:46 - 50:57 - Issue of access and revenue in journalism today
50:58 - 51:54 - How should journalism be reimagined today?
51:55 - 57:26 - Change in television , print journalism with the advent of social media and technology
57:27- 58:09 - Does Ashutosh Regret being a journalist?
58:10- 58:22 - Credits
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Really good, great conversation. It’s really long time when we use to hear such conversation. Keep it up Barkha! Thanks Ashutosh for your honesty in your conversation. Proud of you.
Your ideals and honesty is commendable Ashutosh. For years, intellectuals have been criticised as armchair intellectuals - it's easy to criticize sitting in your drawing room but, you can't do anything on the ground to change anything. AAP formation was an attempt to change that. Most of the Idealists, like you and me in the party have deserted it, lending credence to the label - armchair or drawing room intellectuals. Arvind Kejriwal, Saurabh, Manish, Atishi and many others are still slugging it out. Huge respect to them.
My mother asked me Why barkha ji don't come to TV? I got her to watch this conversation. Thanks Ma'am, such a wonderful interview.
Whether Kejriwal has changed politics or politics changed him, it's not a case of "either or". Yes, politics has changed Kejriwal, but Kejriwal has also changed politics. That's why Modi had to build that school set during Gujarat elections.
@Kp.edit.s5
10 ай бұрын
He is danger man because of him Khalistan is rising
@dorz3321
10 ай бұрын
@@Kp.edit.s5bhai muhfali khaa
@Mike-rw1jw
10 ай бұрын
Kejriwal is the new-age Mahatma Gandhi.. he did change the politics and governance in the country substantially. Even though AAP did not form govt in Karnataka, AAP's ideology is ruling Karnataka right now. Defeating an opponent is one thing but changing the ideology of your opponent is the magic of legends.
@Kp.edit.s5
10 ай бұрын
@@Mike-rw1jw Arvind Kejriwal the khalistani supporters who don't have one ground breaking scheme only free thing
@Mike-rw1jw
10 ай бұрын
@@Kp.edit.s5 Kejriwal demolished Khalistanis in Punjab forever.
Great interview! For the first time… I seemed to like Ashuthosh. Thankyou Madam Barkha.
It could also be argued that Arvind Kejriwal is still in the path of what he set out to do, molding himself into what is needed to survive but still be able to make some impact, although the not the ideal one(nothing is ideal in this world) and on the other hand others have left the journey because it's too hard for them or it's not the idealistic experience they envisioned from outside.
@himmsingz
10 ай бұрын
True.
@dorz3321
10 ай бұрын
No doubt.
@rajann44
10 ай бұрын
True
@sadaashish
10 ай бұрын
Indeed, He and all those Idealists who are still slugging it out, huge respect for them. They're making difference against impossible odds!
@budhrajarahul3
Ай бұрын
Sirf ambition hone se kuch nhi hota.. Talent b hona chaiye.. Ambition se aap achi body bana skte ho, ek theek thak job kr skte ho aur long term me ghar ya gadi khareed skte ho. Lkin hr koi iit iim ias politics acting ni kr skta.. Give up krna b jarori hai... Ambition ka rag mat alapo har jgh.. Insaan k hath me ambition or focus hai mgr talent, timing, luck nhi hai. Islie jisne apna best dia aur use jama nhi usko chor dna chaiye chahe career me koi cheej ho ya pyaar ya passion
Great conversation with asuthosh. Keep such things coming. ❤
Barkha जी, keep uploading your interviews with top personalities in India. मजा आ गया. दिल खुश हुआ आपको देख कर, सुन कर
Very lively , frank and honest discussion , Barkha ! Hats off to you both...
Arvind kejriwal came to political discourse to change such discourse. His political discourse has been adopted by even Congress Party which is the oldest political party in India and won election in Karnataka and is continuing with same in Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Chhattisgarh. His political promise to directly give poor people what elected political leaders are getting. In very short period, he has become national level political leaders. Future is with him and his party AAP.
@puneetsharma6974
10 ай бұрын
Kejriwal fir se kabhi 3 state mein sarkar nahi bna payagaa desk ka kalank hai kejriwal free ke model ke alawa kuch nahi hai kejriwal
An excellent interview. Thanks both Ashutosh and Barkha.
The only way forward is back. Better journalism will emerge... for sure. Excellent interview.
Great interview Barkha. Very informative discussion from Ashutosh!
If Kejriwal had made Ashutosh Rajya Sabha member, he would have been singing all together different tune today.
@Mike-rw1jw
10 ай бұрын
exactly... but he got a lok sabha ticket from Chandni Chowk of Delhi.
@pankajsathoo1256
10 ай бұрын
Sahi baat hai
Barkha ma’am, loved the interview. You have evolved so much as a TV journalist, there is a beautiful smile and calmness on your face, while you let the interviewee continue. There is no rush to prove a point. It has depth, but full of respect. ❤
Politics did not CHANGE kejriwal, politics EVOLVED him. Both are different! I am proud of what Arvind Kejriwal is doing no matter what kumar vishwas says or ashutosh says.
@rutvikrs
9 ай бұрын
How proud are you about his alliance with corrupt parties?
@Abhishek-Inquilaab
8 ай бұрын
@@rutvikrs The most corrupt person, not just in india but in the world, is narendra modi.
@mojojojo2863
8 ай бұрын
Lgta hai goo kha k hi manoge
Ashutosh ji is a pure hearted person with a genuine interest & ambition to work for safeguarding our idea of India 🇮🇳 whatever he says is clear & concise without any hate for any society.
@brajeshkhanna968
10 ай бұрын
@ Quadri Sahib you are absoluetly correct. He is different
@6732VK
10 ай бұрын
he is a not very smart person
@6732VK
10 ай бұрын
He is not the sharpest tool in the shed by far
Thanks Barkha great job❤❤
Ashutosh and Barkha thank you for your courage effort , indian journalism world always team we you with respect…!!
i always remember barkha mam show we the people in ndtv that was a very good time in news media
I m 21 years old and whenever they speak about new generation , I listen it very carefully and always feels good that I m watching this kind of content and not having that rigid mindset because I think this is age in which my core political mindset and understanding of things will develop and after listening to these kind of views it feels like I m on the right boat.
Ashutosh ji brilliant interview.
Very nice interview. I learn many things from this interaction.
........... GOOD CONVERSATION BETWEEN U BOTH ...... CONGRATS BARKHA ....
Heart to heart conversation between two frustrated oldies.
Very clear and wonderful interview.
Barkha is going great guns and going from strength to strength with each episode, esp since her monumental interview with the famous Pak journalist Wajahat Khan . She truly does a great balancing act and plays neutral in a most mature msnner, despite whatever personal biases she may have, One wishes her that her alliance with Shekhar Gupta would have stayed, it would hv been a treat to watch both. And so impressed with Ashutosh whom one thought was a mere poison spewing machine against Modi, frustrated by AAP politics. He brings out a fairly balanced perspective of the AK phenomenon and calls a spade where due. The interview does well to portray him as a man of deep thought and firm convictions indeed.
@marichikat904
10 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Good analysis!
Conversation of two great personality, of social media journalism, and the current problems being faced, in financial terms and the problems of biased or neutral in their field.
Hi Ashutosh & Barkha, a large population of our country respect you guys for your kind of journalism & honesty. Pl don't do journalism like Arnav Goswami & Radhika Singh who have only one agenda i,e to disgrace, defame & degrade opposition. Stay healthy, stay blessed
Wow. Dropping off your last name to serve the Country. Hats off to you Sir.
Excellent Podcast . Informative, Insightful. 👍
Even now he is not calling a spade a spade re' Kejriwal's corrupt practices... he is being an apologist for AAP.. so much for integrity... the same with Yogendra Yadav..
@vaunsag
10 ай бұрын
Andh Bhakt spotted
@jaideepc786
10 ай бұрын
@@vaunsagAnd you, a Pidi-licker supporting the corrupt Antonia Maino Sultanate /or/ an Aaptard hypocritical librandoo supporting 2-faced Kejri's liquor mafia SPOTTED.. So, where will this end? That's what these 2 great journos were speaking about. Call someone a Modi bhakt, and he will come back on you with more. So let's stop this foolish name calling & branding.
@vishalkadian9860
10 ай бұрын
What corrupt practices? Satyendra Jains case is from 2012 transaction (no Delhi govt case), Ed cbi have failed to attach a single asset or money trail in Sisodiya case. Fool don’t u know what’s happening?
Two morally and ethically bankrupt professionals
Great mind and positive people go on jai bhim jai bharat.❤
Love listening to Ashutosh always. Sir you are amongst a small breed of journalists who still keep some hope alive for this profession.
@gauravwiz
10 ай бұрын
Yeh joker hai and not journalist .. Agenda driven person
I am in RSS and its aplesant surprise to hear Ashutosh's view. In debates he comes out as a bitter hater of Hindutva, but here I only see him a man who differs strong with us and believes in his convictions. I dont have to agree with him to respect him now !!
Very informative and in depth interview.
Always worth listening to your very in-depth interviews. Your subject Ashutosh was a very interesting subject.
mera ek sawaal hai : jab kharab awaaz hi sunani hai to mic lagaya hi kyun hai?
Great conversation 🎉❤
Today's political situation in our country is so sad and threatening and it's social impact so disturbing. Rightly said in this interview , there are nw camps every whr. Earlier as friends, family members we had ideological/political difference but we never let them overshadow our behavior with each other. Now societal behavior is being specifically defined by the party in power.
Really great interview, great questions and equally great answers! One concern raised by Barkha is that the political environment has become so polarized that it has forced journalism to become that dirty. Ashotosh answered that the solution to that is technology or digital media like youtube. That really empowers people. So only good thing will come out of it when this polarized environment will end. That will happen when people will be fed up. Because the root cause of polarized environment is anger. The big brother of anger is terror which many people used and got devastated. ISIS and Taliban are the extreme forms of it, Pakistan is in a downward spin because of this. Just like sex sells, so is terror. In India it's still in anger form, which still sells, many elections in the last 8-9 years are won due to that. But the obvious outcome of anger is that it becomes unmanageable after sometime, it divides the same people who promoted it together. The whole environment becomes so spiteful, full of infighting that people simply get fed up and just want to throw these people out. It will take a little time, but it will happen eventually.
Awesome podcast. Very well moderated barkha and very honestlubreplied by Ashutosh
There is no doubt Arvind was intelligent. otherwise, its not easy to make fool out of freedom fighter, lawyer, judge to journalist and public at same time 😀. Not everyone get the silverspoon, with out that Intelligence and cunning are the must needed feature for a politician
Great content and interview! Just a thought- are the mics working for both the personalities, as it sounds a bit different.
Mature & honest interview
Barkha farukh Abdullah aur kashmir valley ki situation par research kar chuki hai 😂😂😂😂
We know how Barkha was reporting at the time genocide and ethnic cleansing of Pandits was happening in Kashmir. She tried very hard to justify their cleansing after enjoying hospitality of both separatists and Farooq . However I now respect her after she launched Mojo as balanced views of both right wing and left wing are shown .
Great insight into a journalist experiences and the fact you guys live with the challenges day in and out no matter how ugly at times it can be!❤
Aashutoshji your eyes seem brighter and your shoulders seem lighter jab met Politics is not meant for you nor I a good journey all the same.❤
If someone brought real polity I n Indian politics is Arvind Kejriwal..
Court has dismissed the petition filed by the CHIEF SECRETARY against AAP. Asutosh should note this point. He wanted to be Rajya Sabha but that didn't happen. Good for AAP he resigned.
हम आशुतोष के पत्रिकारिता पर गर्व करते है, सत्य हिन्दी आजकल यूट्यूब पर लीडरशिप कायम कर चुके है, पूरी टीम बेबाक पत्रकारिता करते है।
@astonkutcher7371
10 ай бұрын
Abe bebak... Ke pote.. Ye bata kis BJP wale ne isse kya keh... Naam ye let's nahi... Ave bebak Naam Le fur bata
I loved this !! I don't know whether today's new generation will ever consider that Journalism was so dignified seeing the current anchors or actors who call themselves JOURNALIST !!
@Rudi_Mentary723
10 ай бұрын
Previous generation just had NDTV and DD news. What options did the previous generation have to compare in the first place ? All we got was one sided video of the NDTV. Thank God there are more channels to give diverse views. Can see why Barkha shifted bases.
@harshadronawat4766
10 ай бұрын
@@Rudi_Mentary723 Agreed Sir but those 2 were good enough to question government !! Today just share me which channel in mainstream can speak against govt ??
@Rudi_Mentary723
10 ай бұрын
@@harshadronawat4766 When did THEY question the government? NDTV has been a mouthpiece for Congress for as long as I've known. The amount of lobbying they have done is unprecedented. That's why I said, thank God we have an alternative now. The audience can pick and choose whom to listen to and whom not to. Then they can make their own views. No news channel is unbiased. The problem before was the only news channels that were there were biased leaning left/congress/liberal. Now just because everyone has alternatives, people are losing their minds and calling them names. I'd say we finally have parity if anything.
@harshadronawat4766
10 ай бұрын
@@Rudi_Mentary723 Chill Sir, We all (mostly all females I know) voted congress in B'lore and will continue to vote congress in future too. Let media do what they want to show !!
@Rudi_Mentary723
10 ай бұрын
@@harshadronawat4766 Lol, If you're a woman you should be voting BJP as No other government has done more for female rights than the current one. Just look at the policies and supreme court judgements under this government and the ones before. But ofcourse I don't expect you to do research. You go by feelings and sentiments. Anyways, thank God the rest of India votes otherwise.
Ashutosh ji is a good person
Really nice and honest conversation
बरखा, मैं बीजेपी से नहीं हूं लेकिन बतातीं हूं आशुतोष आज भी आप में है ही एक योजना की तहत। कांग्रेस सरकार बनवाकर आप उसे हरा कर ऊपर जाना चाहते हैं
Both of you..specially Barkha is considered one of the best journalist in recent past but since the time you have chosen left wing and became a part of so called elite club which has a typical mindset of their own..it started turning negative for you. Ashutosh on other hand is genuine but still searching his ground..confused a bit. Thanks for this interview anyways.
मीडिया को गालियां इस लिए पड़ती है क्योंकि आज जनता के पास retaliate करने का साधन है मोबाइल। पहले जनता के पास रिटेलिएट करने का कोई रास्ता नहीं था। इस बात को जर्नलिस्ट यह समझते थे की वो बहुत सम्मानित है। वास्तव में यदि पिछले समय में भी कोई सिस्टम retaliate करने का होता तो इनको पुराने समय में भी ऐसा ही होता।
He left Aap because he was denied the MP seate... shameless opportunist...
Two of the most honest and sincere journalists of India. Very good interview. Thanks Barkha.
@pichumanisankar2617
10 ай бұрын
Both are utterly biased.
Superb. This is real India. All indians. But we are also "bhola"... One day, we will all be largely enlightened, as a FORCE...maybe another century? We and our future generations will see....ups and downs...life goes on ..50-50...for 100 one day. Each to his own conscience.
When Barkha Dutt was hosting a show in President's house, all fine. When Rajat Sharma gets the Cabinet to attend it's Godi media. Hypocrisy
Where are Nidhi Rajdhani, Sreenivasan Jain et now?
Fantastic discussion.
Ashutosh extremely straight forward
Telling right or wrong is not opinionated journalism.If somebody who is spreading hatred and a journalist can't tell to viewers, this is not journalism at all
What does Ashutosh say about RSS? RSS is not a political party. It is a cultural organisation. Members coming from RSS join various political party. There are many RSS or ex RSS members in Congress party.
The day when he overacted and cried on TV, he got to know he is not good in politics 😂
Such a gem 💎
At one point you say" after 2014 "the party and its troll" went after some journalists and you also admit that without proof baseless allegations were made and the image of some were completely tarnished. So basically you all are rascals fighting with each other for your own objectives (whatever it is). Then why take moral high ground; just because someone was more aggressive and powerful and defeated you in the game.
In side and out with Barkha Dutt definitely a nice one.
यदि राइट विंग जर्नलिज्म ग़लत है तो लेफ्ट विंग भी तो उससे ज़्यादा ग़लत है लेफ्ट विंग ने देश को क्या दिया सिवाय ग़रीबी फैलाने के लिये और कम्युनिज्म फैलाने के लिए?
Ashutosh Soros Jamaat se meeting kar Raha hai 😂😂😂😂
Radia tapes are very challenging 😜 kisko kya milega batao barkhaji ….
So currently two hotshots of Delhi journos have podcast shows Smita of ANI & Barkha here. Smita is clearly RW & Barkha we all know but the gap between the intellects of RW guests on ANI & LW guests here is so stark that it reminds me of Modi's Naamdars vs Kaamdars. LW intellectuals are so much retoric & dishonest wow😂
@dhavaldesai6202
10 ай бұрын
I love both podcast of Smita and barkha more view points for me so I can decide my truth
@user-rr9ct7ko1y
10 ай бұрын
@@dhavaldesai6202 what has barkha covered other than gossips & opinions? Smita talks about books, geopolitics,intellegence,tech narrative shaping, history & what not. I watch both too but I am just pointing to the facts that India's old elites mediocrity is glaring.
@Kanan180
10 ай бұрын
Exactly
Brakha ji I am very big fan of you
Very interesting conversation. Wish you did the whole talk in English only
हर गलती सजा मांगती है आशुतोश! ये तो भुगतना ही पड़ेगा। देश की राजनीति को फर्जीवाल जैसे धूर्त देने के लिए आप और कुमार विश्वास जैसे कई लोग हैं, उन सब को इसकी सजा जरुर मिलेगी।
Kya jodi hai. Ek andha dusra Kodhi hai😅😅😅😅
Superb interview ❤❤
Ashutosh i never seen Barkha Dutt partcipating in your satya hindi channel why. We hope near future we listen bharka dutt in your hindi channel.
He and Arvind are in a different relationship... Jhinga LaLa, Jhinga LaLa, hoo hoo... Jhinga LaLa, Jhinga LaLa, hoo hoo...
I salute you both
My friend, seeing me watch this interview, told that 2 anti India guys having chit chat with each other and told me to stop watching it and not give them the click and ad revenue. I really don't know and wonder if it's true that both these people have an anti India stand and they do that by taking money from outside parties. After some investigation, I did find out from Google that these 2 people and mostly the lady is hated by most of the Indians and for what she did during the exodus of kashmir pandits from kashmir...😮
Ashutosh last me fisaaal gya. Kuch b bol gya. Baki Bhai acha karega. AK k bare me jo bola na vo mast hai. AK is one day our PM!!!! REAL PM of modern Educated India!
Thanks!
ashutosh ji one'of best wishes 🎉
Ashutosh Gupta Didn't Get Rajya Sabha Seat That Was The Main Reason He Quit Aam Aadmi Party. 😐
My one best friend who is currently MLA from Delhi, never used his last name and just 3 days before standing for election.
@anantgarg8741
10 ай бұрын
atishi?
@kknandan143
10 ай бұрын
@@anantgarg8741his likha hai her nahi
After long time, I have an opportunity to see Mr Ashutosh as a concerned and committed journalist. It's nice to see someone maturing ever since his MA days in SIS years ago. Best wishes to you, Ashutosh.
Haath ko aaya muh naa laga... This proves all politics created by Kejriwal and party is fake....These people blamed everyone without any evidence....Now should they apologize to nation?
Really good conversation
BJP has changed ! YES ! This is no Vajpayee era. This is Hindutva no nonsense days. No freebies , no free rides. Only PERFORM or PERISH.
It seems Discussion of two congress spoke persons Nicely promoting the opinion to describe a hard working , honest PM as autocrat
Two honest person they call themselves they are very netural but but but ........we can see they are finding problem in right wing party BJP only because these two are honest😂😂😂😂
Arvind Kejriwal has a very strong will power, stubbornness just like Mahatma Gandhi had. Small stature men but very strong will power. Show me one politician today who can stage dharna in Cold Delhi winters out on the road at night like Arvind Kejriwal did. Surely one change Arvind Kejriwal has done to change the political discourse of this country. Earlier no political party or politicians would talk about schools, good healthcare facilities etc.
Very candid interview❤
The day when he cried on tv and people made joke of him he realised he ia not good for politics. He himself said that rape case was false , barkha said barkha money offer to arvind was fake photo and then ashutosh sau that they mught have beaten chief secretary.
I think Kejriwal is honest, articulate ,smart politician. The weakness of every political party is how to fund the running the party & election expenses & their own family expenses when out of power. Politicians acting as commission agents & contract agents are the rule of the day, is difficult for middle class parties like AAP, but is lucky it got Delhi with revenue sources, difficult will be Punjab. With out organization these NON_BJP parties have extreme difficulty to fund their activities, CASTE is the main back bone. Anti BJP- Christian & Muslim votes are these caste parties & congress are after along with candidates caste. If a journalist sticks to questioning who is in authority is to commended. Even at highest levels the media has agenda & supporters - this is how democracy works with in certain limits = it is like TUG OF WAR. For more than 9 decades how media abused RSS & its associates is to be taken into consideration for shutting of certain media by MODI establishment. One should not for get how Radio & TV were under one family dictates.