Brakes. M3 and M4 - explained, Episode 06.
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
The developers of the BMW M3 and M4 have the floor. No frills; just information - first-hand from those who know best. In Episode 6, Juergen talks about the brakes of the new M vehicles.
BMW M3 Competition / BMW M4 Competition:
Fuel consumption in l/100 km (combined): 10.2. CO2 emissions in g/km (combined): 234.
BMW M3 / BMW M4::
Fuel consumption in l/100 km (combined): 10.8. CO2 emissions in g/km (combined): 248.
The values of fuel consumptions, CO2 emissions and energy consumptions shown were determined according to the European Regulation (EC) 715/2007 in the version applicable at the time of type approval.
The figures refer to a vehicle with basic configuration in Germany and the range shown considers optional equipment and the different size of wheels and tires available on the selected model. The values of the vehicles are already based on the new WLTP regulation and are translated back into NEDC-equivalent values in order to ensure the comparison between the vehicles. [With respect to these vehicles, for vehicle related taxes or other duties based (at least inter alia) on CO2-emissions the CO2 values may differ to the values stated here.] The CO2 efficiency specifications are determined according to Directive 1999/94/EC and the European Regulation in its current version applicable. The values shown are based on the fuel consumption, CO2 values and energy consumptions according to the NEDC cycle for the classification.
For more information on the WLTP and NEDC test procedures, see www.bmw.com/en/innovation/wlt....
Further information on official fuel consumption figures and specific CO2 emission values of new passenger cars is included in the following guideline: 'Leitfaden über den Kraftstoffverbrauch, die CO2-Emissionen und den Stromverbrauch neuer Personenkraftwagen' (Guide to the fuel economy, CO2 emissions and electric power consumption of new passenger cars), which can be obtained free of charge from all dealerships, from Deutsche Automobil Treuhand GmbH (DAT), Hellmuth-Hirth-Str. 1, 73760 Ostfildern-Scharnhausen and at www.dat.de/co2.
00:00 Introduction
00:43 M Compound Brake
01:52 Brake Cooling
02:03 M Carbon Ceramic Brake
02:46 Integrated Brake System
03:42 Rear Axle
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Yippee!! A single piston floating rear caliper!! Exactly what all the M enthusiasts wanted!! That thing looks ridiculous.
@g6g401
3 жыл бұрын
Most of the braking is done by the front, its not a big deal.
@CoandaImageServices
3 жыл бұрын
@@g6g401 I suspect we'll see weight distribution more front-biased as well. Gone are the days of 50/50.
@RB-xv4si
3 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you! This bothers the shit out of me too.
Lol at the rear brake caliper on such a big powerful car. You'd feel like Mr small balls driving that around
@sergiuswai9514
3 жыл бұрын
That rear brake caliper is a joke LoL
@hamann8070
3 жыл бұрын
Lol wow those things are tiny... hard pass
Can wait to see the front grill guy! Want to hear him tell his nightmare 😂
Hi Juergen! What about the hidden 🐽 face of the car?
I’m so excited for the grill episode. I know we’re all anticipating it. 1 mil view episode?? Because that’s what we’re all waiting for 🤣🤣
he is right these brakes manage alot another 400lbs over the F8X 😂
Wouldn't it be best if there's no dubbing?
What rims were those right at the very end of the video?
Rear brake calliper is too small. On a well balanced car such as the M3, the rear brakes actually take heavy loads. That’s why there’s a 370mm rear disk, but a single pot tiny calliper? I don’t get it.
@CoandaImageServices
3 жыл бұрын
M brakes are developed at the Nurburgring, which isn’t a track known for heavy braking. Given the significant weight increase vs the prior generation, the front brakes needed the upgrade, while the rears are now just along for the ride. The F8X suffered massively at many racetracks because it had no cooling.
@jim1013yyf
3 жыл бұрын
@@CoandaImageServices exactly - and non of the existing M models have any sort of brake cooling. Too bad BMW is now making M cars for social influencers.
@therealm3
3 жыл бұрын
I love how the official reason for the puny rear caliper is “we can now fit really concave wheels.”
@nessuno5403
3 жыл бұрын
@@therealm3 😂
@CoandaImageServices
3 жыл бұрын
@@jim1013yyf You speak the truth.
Please explain why do they squeal? Brand new M3 competition making big noises?
I know it must be very good but the rear brake caliper looks cheap as hell compared to the rest of the package.
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@scottiecopasetic8315
3 жыл бұрын
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@BMWM
3 жыл бұрын
Wir fragen mal Jürgen.
can I fit these brakes in bmw M340i ?
He forgot to mention, the ceramic brake not only can do what the standard compound brake can do, just a bit better, ALSO A LOT LOUDER AND MORE SQUEAK !
@BMWM
3 жыл бұрын
Please check out this video for more information: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ho2u1sSpaKbgds4.html
@Matthew-nl9kd
3 жыл бұрын
Who buys a sports car and complains it makes some noises? Wannabe influencer posers who never drive it hard or on the track I guess...
@tommytexter4054
3 жыл бұрын
@@Matthew-nl9kd look like u are the wannabe. The whole point of BMW M car is to drive daily and tracking it when u want to. It is not a mid engine super car. Grow up.
@Matthew-nl9kd
3 жыл бұрын
@@tommytexter4054 I daily my M4 and track it, don't need to tell me what the point is because I assure you I make use of it and don't cry about the quirks that come with having a SPORTS car. Engine location completely besides the point. Sorry your feelings were hurt so easily.
Does the electric parking brake automatically engage when the car is turned off?
@Matthew-nl9kd
3 жыл бұрын
That would not be ideal for track days, means you can't turn your engine off while your brakes are still hot or you might imprint the rotors I think. For a sports car, I would have strongly preferred a regular manual handbrake. Never liked electronic ones.
Please 1080p!
@whoismstv
3 жыл бұрын
It is
Love it!!
Bmw😍💕
Would be fun if BMW hearthed my comment
@BMWM
3 жыл бұрын
+Abcdef123Abcdef123 And would be amazing if BMW replies to your comment. Ohh, we just did. 😎
The rear brake is ridiculous lol. Still didn’t stop me from ordering a manual M3 tho, production is supposed to start next week!
BMW brakes are great for day-to-day driving and they work when you need them to and they work well but they don’t even compare to Porsche brakes on track or fast road
@nessuno5403
3 жыл бұрын
Because you tested these already?
@leevardy852
3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 no but if there like any other generation of bmw brakes, it’s just a shame there standard brakes don’t seem that good
@nessuno5403
3 жыл бұрын
@@leevardy852 so you're just assuming... at best
@leevardy852
3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 yes but I’m hope I’m wrong but I guess time will tell, see you back here in a few months 😂
@nessuno5403
3 жыл бұрын
@@leevardy852 sadly, there's a good chance you're right! The 1 piston rear brakes are an embarrassing joke
waiting for my m4 competiton isle men green :D
Deutsche Playlist !!!!!!!!!
M POWER cars had Excellent break systems even better then AMG CARS With my experience. None ceramic.
I love bmw❤🤗🤗🤗
What exactly did BMW M develop? These brakes are designed and manufactured by Brembo.
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Why does the rear calipers are looking so ugly and cheap at the new models (also on M5 F90 and other brands e.g. Audi RS6) compared to the former model generations? Cost savings (sold as weight savings :DD) ? Even on my M135i (F21) it looks better.
If you guys filmed properly you could have normally 16:9 for KZread then crop for 9:16 for social media
Rear calipers are single piston floating! NOOOOOOOOOO! Why do BMW still provide sub standard braking systems on m cars! An 80k car with rubbish cheap rear calipers.
Bmw king of M cars 💪
araba fiyatlarının cehennemi Türkiye’den selamlar. ( hi the hell of car prices Turkiye)
woooooohooooo. M car finally has brake cooling duct!!!!
@jalloor
3 жыл бұрын
They always did.
@jim1013yyf
3 жыл бұрын
@@jalloor nope they do not. M2/3(including previous gens)/4s are known for horrible brake fade.
@jalloor
3 жыл бұрын
@@jim1013yyf my E46M3 and F80M3 both have them. We are taking about the hole in the front bumper directing air straight to the wheel wells thus cooling the brakes?
@jim1013yyf
3 жыл бұрын
@@jalloor ahhh we are talking about different things. those are not for cooling your brake rotors. I was talking about the pipe that's ducting air directly onto the rotor hub. Schirmer has a kit for F8x, but it's around 1000USD
@jalloor
3 жыл бұрын
@@jim1013yyf ooh I see.
This looks ridiculously amateur when it’s filmed vertically. Also, the lighting is poor and you chose to highlight a black caliper against the black wheel liner, so we can’t see any details. This marketing campaign is an utter disaster.
@BMWM
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback. Are you interested in the information shown?
@therealm3
3 жыл бұрын
@@BMWM the information is ok and the effort is appreciated. But you can’t change the fact that these cars are ugly. I have owned 12 BMWs over the course of 20+ years and have been as loyal as they come even with the misqueues like s54 rod bearings, n54 turbos, m50 cooling, etc. I have eagerly awaited each subsequent release of the M3 and this car has completely disappointed. It just looks terrible. So many areas where it just looks like cheap aftermarket add ons or the different teams didn’t talk to each other during the design phase. This was going to be my next car and now I am not buying. I hope others do the same and you can fix this car with the LCI. Take a long hard look at the M5 and M8 and clean up the bumpers, the pig snout, hideous grills, weird vent shapes, and why are all the lower prices gloss black? Make them body color please. Ugh, I could go on much more but I am sure you get the point. Please fix the look of this car or for the love of god don’t screw up the upcoming M2 or I am done buying.
@CoandaImageServices
3 жыл бұрын
@@BMWM There is some interesting information presented, but it's completely undermined by the delivery method. The technological advances are vastly overshadowed by the amateurish production quality, as evidenced by the vertical filming and a lack of studio-quality lighting. All of this pales in comparison to the horrendous overall design, which is being utterly lambasted in online discussions. Those who like it are in the minority.
@CoandaImageServices
3 жыл бұрын
@@therealm3 This is the recurring theme that we're trying to get across to @BMW M: a large percentage of BMW's customer base hates the new design. The haters far outnumber those who love it.
@BMWM
3 жыл бұрын
@@CoandaImageServices Thank you for your answer. Regarding the delivery method: We are aware of the fact, that vertical video production is still quite unusal for KZread. But we wanted to share interesting information with our KZread fans, too. These assets have been produced in vertical video format since we are using them e.g. in Instagram Stories (you may have a look at instagram.com/bmwm ). Here fans may ask the expert (e,g, Juergen) - and we always get thousands of questions within 24h. And yes, these clips haven't been produced in studios. We went to workshops, development areas etc. - authentic places.
Bmw the best
Mate you should be fired, I’m sick of my brakes on a 91k car embarrassing me at every damn stop … bmw won’t do anything about it… why did we pay so much and struggle to stop without having the most horrific sound
Lexus is the beat!
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@nessuno5403
3 жыл бұрын
Are you available for an interview about this, your life's best achievement?