THE GOAT HIMSELF: www.youtube.com/@fireship GO SUB TO HIM

@duwangchew

Жыл бұрын

Too late, already subbed

@cthutu

Жыл бұрын

BASIC reference?

If he's impressed by the 107 byte compiler, someone wrote a Brainfuck interpreter in Brainfuck.

@BusinessWolf1

Жыл бұрын

w...hat?

@electricengine8407

Жыл бұрын

i did that, if you know the language and play around with it a ton to learn the concepts and patterns its actually not extremely difficult, i made my own interpreter and debugger

@grzzltn

9 ай бұрын

@@electricengine8407 github (or other place where code is) or didn't happen

@the-pink-hacker

8 ай бұрын

Even BF is bootstrapped!? When will this end?

@Takyodor2

8 ай бұрын

​@@the-pink-hacker The end is the beginning, as the universe is bootstrapped

Brainfuck is an example of a "Turing tarpit" language, where "everything is possible but nothing of interest is easy".

@denissorn

Жыл бұрын

Everything is possible with assembly. Even RISC assembly is a lot easier than this insanity.

Your main channel will always be my favorite, but seeing your disbelief and wonder (i.e. at the recursive main) is contagious and hilarious.

@ThePrimeTimeagen

Жыл бұрын

:) it was SOOO fun to see that

@khalilbessaad5553

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know this is the secondary channel. I thought that I was on the main channel, I just saw Prime and clicked

@aws-china

Жыл бұрын

yeah it was definitely a W move to become active on the clips channel again

@CuriousAnonDev

Жыл бұрын

@@khalilbessaad5553 same🤣

@RenderingUser

Жыл бұрын

Wait This wasn't the main channel? Bro i legit thought this guy only had about 50k subs

the syscall is for I/O where !b will be evaluated to an int from a bool so it will call 3 or 4 which corresponds to read and write, respectively.

Assembly was the first language I've learned. Then I started experimenting with C. I thought functions were just like labels in Assembly, and I used a recursive main in one of my beginner C codes. My teacher told me "just don't do that".

@AlLiberali

10 ай бұрын

He was being very considerate

@aziemelzapratama5257

9 ай бұрын

How long are you in the industry?😅

@mynameisname6162

4 ай бұрын

@@aziemelzapratama5257 op has seen dinosaurs

Back in college I had come up with a project related to compilers, so I submitted a transpiler that translates Brainfuck to functioning C code. The whole class was impressed, but really it takes one to know how Brainfuck theoretically works to know how easy it really is. 😂

You can almost feel it moving a mechanical something inside your machine with every character. I bet i could hear it with a stethoscope on an HDD.

@e.zarate

Жыл бұрын

Gold comment

@Oaisus

5 ай бұрын

It sure seems like someone could build a mechanical bf interpreter with punch card instructions

@tornoutlaw

5 ай бұрын

Yeah...or slowly move an oszillograph along your RAM xD

Anything more is just unnecessary bloat. Variables are crutches.

@cmaxwellmusic80

Жыл бұрын

"Variables are crutches."

@BusinessWolf1

Жыл бұрын

- jonathan blow

Watching you get your mind blown as you read the code of a language named "brain f***" is HILARIOUS 😂

as turing intended lolol

Gotta love how Brainfuck is Turing complete, so you can technically build anything with it

Saw on stream. Still watching since its so funny how mind blown you are ;)

@ThePrimeTimeagen

Жыл бұрын

I WAS BLOWN AWAY!!! it was such a fun experience

ChatGPT programmed a recursive main in C and I was like "Waaaaa?!?"

Love your vides, always fun to watch. This was interesting for sure. BFJS sounds like a fun project for a live stream ;)

ngl, the first time I saw a recursive main, my reaction wasn't any different than prime's; it's a powerful code obfuscation tactic

My brain hurts... 🤯

@FlorianWendelborn

Жыл бұрын

What did you do to Brian?

@alexandrosvangelatos9979

Жыл бұрын

@@FlorianWendelborn my bad... brain was really hurting.... Lol

Somehow he always found a way to shit on javascript and I love that.

Only Prime can take a 2:09 minute video into over 5 minutes and still make it entertaining.

You, my friend, are a extra special kind of special. Appreciate you so much =D

brainfuck is basically a slightly modified Turing machine. it's a good intro into computability and formal language theory

I moved from too complex to simple: Rust -> Zig -> Brain F**k

Your entire hard drive is a one-dimensional array of bytes. Or (galaxy brain) it’s a scalar unsigned integer with a maximum of 2^(drive size in bits).

@kibe2134

Жыл бұрын

It can be signed if you start counting the index from 1

FINALY the code where regular expressions was created.

4:33 quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

The ai in brainfuck video by mitxela is my favorite video out of all the ones I've seen about esoteric languages

One of my first programming projects when i came back to programming was an Brainf**k interpreter written in C++ which i called Brainfluff. I think such interpreters are fun project to see how an very simplistic compiler works. I will rewrite it probably in a few days or so when i have less work.

A friend create a Linux binary interpreter with size of 380 bytes for brainf*ck :D

I wrote a BF interpreter once, and main recursion within a loop is the easiest way I found to code the [ and ] operators.

Great video! also I just noticed are you sitting on an exercise ball?

from what i understand the loop to do. it increments or decrements a cell. once the cell hits zero the loop ends. you can move other values up and down as necessary. once value 0 becomes 0 your loop ends.

4:40 Windows PowerTools baby!

Recursive main just blowing prime's mind #wholesome

Wow this new coding language is like rust without all the bloat

I wonder what (double precision) floating point division looks like in this language.. it would be quite the challenge

I love the original, you add some nice spice and detail to it.❤️🙏 Could you do a Vim for Brainf**k brainf**k please?

Actually BF make quite some sense when you use it to generate code using genetic algorithms. It's pretty easy to represent it as genes and mutate it to find solutions.

@CFEF44AB1399978B0011

3 ай бұрын

If we scanned the human genome and used it to find valid brain fuck programs i wonder how many of them would actually output some fun strings. Like are there any randomly occurring words in the human genome?

BF ray tracer implementation that outputs the rendered image as mono color byte array

Mitxela build a full tic-tac-toe ai in bf. Such a freaking mad man

The thumbnail is brilliant

1:03 if !b does the same thing in C as in JS it would make it 0 if the number is non zero, and 1 if the number is zero, so 4 - 0 or 4 - 1 I think...

Primeagen: Please look at sectorlisp! Could you give us a deep dive on that one? I want to learn the metacircular evaluator, the computer science equivalent of Maxwell's Equations. And sectorlisp can set up the basic LISP machine in less than 512 bytes of 8088 machine code. That's a small compiler! Almost as tiny as bf.

I'd just stick to machine code. It is much easier and a 0-byte compiler 🥴

Yeah, create your own language where logic makes no sense, like null == 0; // -> false null > 0; // -> false null >= 0; // -> true A language like that would be a real brainf*ck. Oh wait...Hello JavaScript my old friend.

@raianmr2843

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@theodorealenas3171

Жыл бұрын

Hey is it what I think it is? >= defaults to the opposite result to < and that's why?

@user-sl6gn1ss8p

Жыл бұрын

@@theodorealenas3171 oh, is that it?

@theodorealenas3171

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sl6gn1ss8p I know Python does this, with operator overloading (but C++doesn't). If you overload what the = operator will work accordingly.

@isodoubIet

11 ай бұрын

@@theodorealenas3171 In C++20 you're supposed to overload spaceship so all the comparisons will work as intended

I hope Jeff recursively reacts to this video

2:15: _“Notice how Brainfuck^beep^ doesn't require silly things like…”_

I wrote an interpreter for it back in college in ARM ASM, so mine came in at ~300B when assembled. Unfortunately, ARM machine code isn't super dense!

It's gotta be "like && subscribe"

That's awesome recursion is my favorite part of coding.

Played about some with Brain Fuck years ago. Still have a habbit of typing 'p' for '+', just from commenting code.

Just as Turing intended :`)

The code there outputs "what a free t-shirt? be the first person to comment my encephalon hurts! "

That's not a compiler that's an interpreter

Advent of code in Brain F****.....next year

This is the world functional programmers want for our children.

This is so exciting

"I dont even know what four minus BANG B means" 😂

it is time to write js framework on brainfuck

I just learn that some people made a brainfuck compiler in brainfuck

It's not recursive, it's the Y Combinator, therefore inductive over program

Fireship is so good

i have seen a recursive main before. it works.

It's a rick roll for sure. The last code

> recursive main!? what?! Just before, I watched the video that Haskell appeared in lol (main being recursive is pretty normal there. And it's not even a function…)

Comment without any thought: Is main recursive because it's a recursive descent parser?

When you going to do prolog?

Doom in Brainf^&k when?

THE NAME is the Brainagen

has anyone figured out what the video end code does??

@user-sl6gn1ss8p

Жыл бұрын

apparently it was "what a free t-shirt? be the first person to comment "my encephalon hurts!"" (with the typo)

my encephalon hurts!

you should react to JSF*k

you just need a transpiler from javacript to brainf*ck

On the topic of "recursive main", function-level try-catch works on "main" in C++, so if you place a call to main inside "catch" attached to main, your code is now un-crashable by pesky exceptions! For legal reasons, this should not be used in real code. I don't take responsibility for any consequences that may result from this practice. Try-catch safely.

I prefeer to program my systems with lolcode. No memory safety or fearless concurrency but lot o lols.

the way he explained it, 5 decrements means 51 loops. how is 51*3 increments 103? Why is it not 153?

@robertwagner9014

10 ай бұрын

He adds one first making it 1025 so it is 205 loops which results in 615 or 512 + 103.

This compiler is interesting, the only downside to it is the writing system/syntax. If you use a different syntax/writing system on this, then it might be usable. By writing system I mean Latin/Greek/Arabic. One thing I've had a big interest in is creating a writing system from scratch but I don't have the time to do so. Think Hangul and Mayan.

can someone explain the loop code of how it got 103

@AndresTraks

Жыл бұрын

The first cell is used as a counter for the loop and is set to 1. For each iteration of the loop, the counter is decremented by 5. Since a cell wraps around the maximum value of a byte (1 - 5 = 252), it takes 205 iterations for the counter to reach exactly 0, which is the exit condition of the loop. The second cell is used as the character value and is first set to 0. For each iteration of the loop, the character value is incremented by 3, which makes 205 * 3 = 615. But this cell also wraps around, so the final value is 615 modulo 256 = 103.

This kind of video makes me want to quit programming then go open a bar

BrainF**k is not entirely useless. I recently saw a paper by some mathematicians showing an algorithm to factorize arbitrarily large integers asymptotically optimally (that is it has the same O(f(n)) as the most efficient classical factorizing algorithm, the could not show what that was, and finding the most efficient factorizing algorithm is still an open problem), and BF was a crucial part of that algorithm. Basically what they did was a BF program, execute one step in it, then create a second program, execute two steps in the fist program and one in the second one step and then create a third program (in every iteration each program executes twice as many steps as in the previous iteration), and so on until one of all the programs they created spits out the correct factorization of the large integer that was given (which is easy to check since multiplication is polynomial in the number of bits in the integer). They actually wrote a python program that did this, (it was excruciatingly slow, it took several days for it to factorize 4). The point is that Brainfuck is not completely useless.

@hereandnow3156

5 ай бұрын

I wonder what made Brainfuck helpful for this problem vs using assembly?

@tordjarv3802

5 ай бұрын

​@@hereandnow3156 brainf**k is extremely simple to implement while most assembly languages are way more complicated. In a way brainf**k is a very simple form of assembly.

But the real question is, can we write JavaScript compiler using brainfuck? 🤔

Recursive main... still better than JS event loop 😏

chat GPT cant code in brainfug, what a shame.

AWS shoulkd bring BF lambda SDK for next years April fools.

why wouldn't there be a recursive main?

DO ROCKSTAR

Skill issue for all of us :D

setup tour

JSFuck DOES EXIST!

There is actual language called JSFuck.

I prefer JSF*CK, it's more portable

@NathanHedglin

Жыл бұрын

😂 same!

also: no side effects 🎉

❤

Still better than *JavaScript*

@daedalus5070

Жыл бұрын

His Javascript for the Haters video is really funny.

four minus bang bee

5:30 why not just write it in binary then.

@cherubin7th

Жыл бұрын

Binary is actually a more complex programming language.

@sacredgeometry

Жыл бұрын

@@cherubin7th Binary isn't a programming language.

@derrheat154

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, thats a really good question, i'm not sure whats so impressive about BF. With the amount of brainpower needed to write BF, you might as well look up the ISA and do some translating. The real "programming language" with the smallest compiler is the machine code, which is zero.

@La0bouchere

11 ай бұрын

@@derrheat154 It's cool because it forces you to realize how genius Turing was for figuring out that the tape model allows for all computations

I did write a brainfuck interpreter lmao when I was experimenting with compilers.

syscall hack is cool, recursive main is sublime

We should subscribe to you too😂😂