Brahms Violin Sonata in D Minor No.3 - Patricia Kopatchinskaja & Fazıl Say

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Brahms Violin Sonata in D Minor No.3 - Patricia Kopatchinskaja & Fazıl Say
Johannes Brahms - Violin Sonata in D Minor No.3 - Opus 108 - 1878, 1887 - for piano and violin
PATRICIA KOPATCHINSKAJA: Violinist Patricia Kopatchinskaja's repertoire ranges from baroque and classical (often played on gut strings) to a number of new commissions or re-interpretations of modern masterworks. - patriciakopatchinskaja.com/
FAZIL SAY: Composing is always a form of improvisation: with ideas, with musical particles, with imaginary shapes. And it is in this sense that the artistic itinerary and the world-view of the Turkish composer and pianist Fazıl Say should be understood. - fazilsay.com/
Piano provided by Yamaha Music Europe / doremusic

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  • @avidian888
    @avidian8882 жыл бұрын

    Patricia always manages to breath life into her music, she is one of the most knowledgeable and talented musicians of our time, yet remains so humble and grounded… Thank you for uploading this masterpiece!

  • @publicclammer
    @publicclammer9 жыл бұрын

    I am infatuated with both these artists. Originally I intended to only listen to parts of this Brahms...but it captured me completely.

  • @guillermorochabrun3456

    @guillermorochabrun3456

    7 жыл бұрын

    The same with me.

  • @raoultak
    @raoultak7 жыл бұрын

    My teacher professor Grumiaux would condemn this rendition if I played it likewise. But I LOVE it. Patricia Kopatchinskaja is so strong and Fazıl Say is the dream for every violinist to play with. This got me wiped away.

  • @morgenwanderer7430

    @morgenwanderer7430

    7 жыл бұрын

    You got that right! My teachers would also condemn this, but there's something very gripping, sincere and incredibly eloquent about this performance!

  • @raoultak

    @raoultak

    7 жыл бұрын

    Very true......

  • @zogzog1063

    @zogzog1063

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well! Maybe the teachers are right but I am going to buy the CD / SACD / LP of this performance! (PS That is not THE Grumiaux?).

  • @horatiodreamt

    @horatiodreamt

    6 жыл бұрын

    Your teacher would condemn it? But what would Brahms say?

  • @leonsundermeyer

    @leonsundermeyer

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mean it is true that this Interpretation has something Special, but it is not Brahms and he didnt want it like this. Esspcially Kopatchinskaja Plays it like it is a piece by Fazil Say, but it is not. There are many Things that are just wrong played by her!

  • @canxida
    @canxida8 жыл бұрын

    "Without craftsmanship, inspiration is a mere reed shaken in the wind" - Johannes Brahms. Patricia's interpretation is certainly craft work, beautiful execution.

  • @raymondgood2359

    @raymondgood2359

    7 жыл бұрын

    a wonderful quotation from the master!!

  • @dirkshelley2075
    @dirkshelley20756 жыл бұрын

    Superb. I was the piano contribution and my wife was the music student violin major at Elizabethtown College in 1994 when we performed this together at her spring recital. Your rendition is probably the best I've heard. Just delightful. I know I probably had to practice my part over 1000 times. (not exaggeration). This piece is lovely and very, very challenging.

  • @Rx-mn5fv
    @Rx-mn5fv10 жыл бұрын

    A marvelous performance by two very compatible musicians. At times very dramatic and at others very lyrical. Really enjoyed it.

  • @romfiddler
    @romfiddler4 жыл бұрын

    Не всякий музыкант может так выставить все свое нутро напоказ , не считаясь ни с чем ! Но в этом вся прелесть свободного истечения эмоций и того бесконечного потока энергии и страсти , которого так не хватает большинству и делает их неинтересными и скучными ! Этот ансамбль можно слушать бесконечно , он освежает затхлую музейную атмосферу созданную " великими " вокруг Брамса и его сонат , а он был живой человек , со своими страстями и неутоленной жаждой понимания и любви ! Копачинская это показала вполне !

  • @romfiddler
    @romfiddler4 жыл бұрын

    Not every musician can flaunt his whole gut so, regardless of anything! But this is the whole charm of the free flow of emotions and that endless stream of energy and passion that the majority lacks and makes them uninteresting and boring! You can listen to this ensemble endlessly, it refreshes the musty museum atmosphere created by the "great" around Brahms and his sonatas, and he was a living person, with his passions and unquenched thirst for understanding and love! Kopachinskaya showed it completely!

  • @TheBlessingofMusic
    @TheBlessingofMusic5 жыл бұрын

    00:16 Ⅰ.Allegro introverted Len studying abroad with long distance relationship.  08:13 Ⅱ.Adagio relaxed Kahoko and surrounding in Japan. 12:05 Ⅲ.Un poco presto e con sentimento love games over Kahoko. 14:54 Ⅳ.Presto agitato powerful duel with Len and Ryotaro. Time Tempo My imagination with La corda d'oro comics verison.

  • @elenanesterenko329
    @elenanesterenko3299 жыл бұрын

    Liebe Patt und Fazil, ihr seid absolut umwerfend!!! Ich denke, so ungefähr hat Brahms seine Sonate hören wollen!!! Jede Modulation, jede Alteration ist so durchlebt, so natürlich gespielt, dass es direkt zum Herzen geht! Es war ein wahrer Genuss, Euch zuzuhören! Ich hoffe, es könnten mehrere Musiker die Sprache der Komponisten so verstehen und in die Tat umsetzen, wie ihr hier!!!

  • @billmarrufo
    @billmarrufo9 жыл бұрын

    One of the best interpretations of this piece if not the very best in my opinion. And I already listened to many other by Oistrak, Mutter, Pearlman. etc. This is absolutely full of passion. Both interpreters let their emotions flow and dictate tempo, volumen of sound and accents. Technically impecable indeed.

  • @raymondgood2359

    @raymondgood2359

    7 жыл бұрын

    to me brahms is number one. i agree completely.

  • @bennyboost

    @bennyboost

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mutter & Orkis is my favourite pairing for this piece.

  • @obiessen

    @obiessen

    Жыл бұрын

    i love Gioconda de Vito

  • @billmarrufo

    @billmarrufo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@obiessen Thanks for your mention, it led me to a pleasant discovery.

  • @obiessen

    @obiessen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billmarrufo always nice to discover ,thank you ,

  • @user-lb2ed9um9x
    @user-lb2ed9um9x2 ай бұрын

    Bin begeistert - so muss Musik sein. Mitreißend und überraschend, leidenschaftlich.

  • @georgeovitt5443
    @georgeovitt54437 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr. Say for uploading all of this sublime music!

  • @joannating8437
    @joannating84378 жыл бұрын

    Bravo bravo! Amazing performances!

  • @organboi
    @organboi5 жыл бұрын

    She's amazing.

  • @williammeredith2953
    @williammeredith29538 жыл бұрын

    In an interview last year, Patricia said Brahms doesn't need her. Wrong! Brahms desperately needs fresh and passionate interpretations like this.

  • @wasagoodyear-mg9kt

    @wasagoodyear-mg9kt

    8 жыл бұрын

    +william meredith i think patricia was right!

  • @user-lb2ed9um9x

    @user-lb2ed9um9x

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh doch - natürlich braucht Brahms Interpreten und Interpretinnen wie diese beiden.

  • @harper5892
    @harper58926 жыл бұрын

    Loved it! Thank you both!

  • @physik-musik7083
    @physik-musik70834 жыл бұрын

    Echt sehr schön, vielen Dank dafür :)

  • @thoyo
    @thoyo7 жыл бұрын

    don't think Kopatchinskaja gets nearly enough recognition for her talents

  • @betopaiva281
    @betopaiva2814 жыл бұрын

    Que maravilha Patrícia....

  • @simonrodriguez4685
    @simonrodriguez46854 жыл бұрын

    The sound quality is outstanding!

  • @KeenanReimerWatts
    @KeenanReimerWatts7 жыл бұрын

    That was so, so good. Amazing performers, the music just comes to life the second they start. Wow. And the videography is great too!

  • @valentinoruti1453
    @valentinoruti14536 жыл бұрын

    LA MÚSICA DE BRAHMS EN MANOS DE ESTOS DOS GRANDES MAESTROS TAMBIÉN ME ENCANTA PARA IR DESPIDIENDO EL AÑO... A PARTIR DEL CUARTO MOVIMIENTO; MUY HERMOSO, FANTÁSTICO!!...

  • @PianoPsych
    @PianoPsych10 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful and impassioned playing!

  • @whiteeug53
    @whiteeug539 жыл бұрын

    Capturing!

  • @knd1940
    @knd1940 Жыл бұрын

    A spectacularly virtuosic performance. Usually I'm not a fan of Kopatchinskaja because she goes for maximum drama whether or not it seems (to me) to suit the music. But here that approach pays off big. As also her performance of the Stravinsky violin concerto, if you're not too distracted by her graphic facial expressions there.

  • @servetsever3439
    @servetsever34393 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic fazıl Say.

  • @quinto34
    @quinto348 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @rabiaanwar7109
    @rabiaanwar71099 жыл бұрын

    My deepest respects...

  • @FelixRigg
    @FelixRigg10 жыл бұрын

    I liked so much of this: well done.

  • @benjamincuevaseninde
    @benjamincuevaseninde8 жыл бұрын

    -- Brillante interprétation de cette sonate majeure de Brahms. --

  • @addysanchez6086
    @addysanchez6086 Жыл бұрын

    I hear fire in the 1st movement and this was the closest recording that matches my interpretation. The artistry is next level!!

  • @hosseinm6269
    @hosseinm62694 жыл бұрын

    One of the best filming I ve ever seen for violin and piano deut Tnx to the editer and who filmes maybe they both one person Any way very well done

  • @AKhosrobeik
    @AKhosrobeik11 жыл бұрын

    Great!!

  • @pereira204100
    @pereira2041007 жыл бұрын

    Amazing performance! Funny fact: at 16:31 the video does not correspond with the audio! She is playing the similiar part that appears close to the end... Strange hearing notes around 5th position while she is in 1st on the video!

  • @krovpriznya518

    @krovpriznya518

    7 жыл бұрын

    haha true!! I think it's because of the gluing of different audio/video takes...it's not a "real" take...i mean, they record several times the same to make copy/paste in postproduction. For me, it's one of the curses of nowadays musicians...everybody is afraid of the "live" take (with its imperfections)...everybody pretending to be "perfect". On the other hand, the video needs always several takes to be able to edit it afterwards... A metaphor of the "lie" of the modern art form.

  • @AnneSofie4582
    @AnneSofie458210 жыл бұрын

    So beuatyfull !!!!

  • @morgenwanderer7430
    @morgenwanderer74308 жыл бұрын

    Passionate playing but musically, PK's decisions are a bit eccentric... I must say though, in this day and age of safe and bland, everyone-sounds-the-same performances, this rendition of Brahms's 3rd vn son keeps me interested. I love Fazil Say's deep sound , emphasizing Brahm's heavily-voiced harmonies.

  • @REA987
    @REA98710 жыл бұрын

    Muhteşem.

  • @yucebelge9160
    @yucebelge916010 жыл бұрын

    Fazıl Seni seviyoruz ! ( ben ve 2 arkadaşım )

  • @raymondtingkahlikkpm-guru73
    @raymondtingkahlikkpm-guru732 жыл бұрын

    Not boring and thrilling Well played.

  • @cavitkurt9657
    @cavitkurt965711 жыл бұрын

    Harika.

  • @Schell77
    @Schell778 жыл бұрын

    Marvelous performance and video document. I also admire Say for being a courageous advocate for free speech and atheism.

  • @davidaltschuler9687

    @davidaltschuler9687

    8 жыл бұрын

    Don't see what courage it takes these days to talk about free speech and atheism. Right or wrong, he'd be quite courageous to openly advocate the censorship or traditional religion, especially within the artistic community. Don't you think?.

  • @Schell77

    @Schell77

    8 жыл бұрын

    I doubt that anyone familiar with Turkish politics among other things would repudiate his personal courage.

  • @davidaltschuler9687

    @davidaltschuler9687

    8 жыл бұрын

    I didn't write that he is not courageous, but that his advocating free speech and atheism does not demonstrate courage in today's world, especially among artists. Whether my point was valid or not, you did not address it at all. Read carefully... then respond with thought rather than just reflexes.

  • @serranaomi
    @serranaomi10 жыл бұрын

    Sensacionals!!!!!

  • @thomasramdasvoegeli
    @thomasramdasvoegeli8 жыл бұрын

    Virtuos. Sagenhaft. Traumhaft. Alles, was ich mir wünsche ist da... und der herrlichen Ueberraschungen viele dazu, von Violine, von Klavier, im Zusammenspiel, in der Zwiesprache. Brahms würde vergnügt schmunzeln und mit dem Fuss wippen. Prima Tonmeister, und als i-Pünktchen spitze Filmtechnik.

  • @Slammins1
    @Slammins17 жыл бұрын

    The emotion is really felt in this rendition! Mutter's was a bit rushed (from what I've seen), but also had similar tone. I feel like there was a little more work needed on the fourth movement, as binacaman mentioned - and if it was perfected as far as synching up, this would be the absolute best recording I've heard of the piece.

  • @user-sn2dk4op9o
    @user-sn2dk4op9o4 жыл бұрын

    I have no words. Usually, I'm analyzing, but definitely not now.

  • @9monkeysmediaproduction173
    @9monkeysmediaproduction1738 жыл бұрын

    wow

  • @MrHiroyuki71
    @MrHiroyuki715 жыл бұрын

    ブラームスのソナタであって、ブラームスのソナタではない。でも、新鮮に感じるし、新たな可能性を、感じられる。

  • @tulish48
    @tulish4810 жыл бұрын

    olağanüstü...

  • @kristjan.v
    @kristjan.v10 жыл бұрын

    Although they produce so many good qualities and have rich dynamics it sounds a little too "ninja" for me and in the last movement the violinist doesn't get enough support from the pianist. That's my opinion.

  • @daniel3231995
    @daniel32319955 жыл бұрын

    jaka or skaya? Pretty convincing rendering.

  • @sexybartok
    @sexybartok7 ай бұрын

    this is peak kopatchinskaja!!!

  • @abdullahince06
    @abdullahince066 жыл бұрын

    Say is genius

  • @alanuchoa5458
    @alanuchoa54585 жыл бұрын

    4:45

  • @diegeigergarnele7975
    @diegeigergarnele79753 жыл бұрын

    Good interpretation I enjoyed it but I don't get what is all the fuss about originality. I feel like at this point anything this violinist does is deemed as original in both a positive and negative way. I don't find this Brahms nearly as weird as the much more ancient Busch Serkin recording. Modern listeners surely have a weird conception of original.

  • @alanuchoa5458
    @alanuchoa54585 жыл бұрын

    1:00

  • @cpcakir
    @cpcakir4 жыл бұрын

    6:50

  • @alanuchoa5458
    @alanuchoa54585 жыл бұрын

    8:15

  • @binacaman
    @binacaman8 жыл бұрын

    Hmm. A few ensemble (playing together) problems in the last movement, as if they are not familiar with each other, or perhaps not well rehearsed? Fay particularly plays as if he has not done much chamber music performance. I have no idea if this is actually the case, but he seems a bit oblivious. The microphone placement seems to favor the violin which has the unfortunate effect of throwing her occasionally rather harsh sound into relief. I still like it, but could benefit from a bit of chamber music coaching and engineering help. :)

  • @binacaman

    @binacaman

    8 жыл бұрын

    Well, I don't mean to be unkind, perhaps we are simply talking about a difference in playing styles. I do think that just because a given performer is widely acclaimed or popular does not mean he or she is a great chamber musician. When I studied chamber music with Gabor Magyar of the Hungarian Quartet, we were taught to work meticulously until we achieved precision and unanimity of phrasing. Listen to the signature declamatory chords at the end of the first subject of the last movement for example. (They reappear a lot) 14:57, 15:08, 16:50, 19:30, etc. Virtually every time the piano is as much a a 16th note ahead of the violin! They clearly have a slightly different feel for this melodic gesture. In my opinion they should have decided how they wanted to do it before they recorded it, heh. I noted several points where they seem a little out of synch: 15:25, 15:56, 16:33, 18:45, 19:03, 19:18, 19:20. You may not agree, but I basically feel Say tends to alternately rush or introduce little agogic emphases which are note particularly unmusical but which do not match Kopatchinskaja's phrasing. It just feels slightly like two soloists rather than one duo ensemble, if that makes any sense. For comparison you might listen to the Oistrakh Richter performance of this work, (recorded live, so no retakes possible) where despite the fact that they seem to not look at each other much at all, they manage to achieve impressive rythmic and phrasing unanimity. As I said, I like it, but they (like so many of today's musicians) could benefit from learning to submerge their individual habitual gestures and egos, and blend together.

  • @binacaman

    @binacaman

    8 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but this a false dichotomy. I am a proud member of the tradition of musicians who have been trained that the highest aim of the art of musical performance in the so called "classical" tradition, is to faithfully and powerfully reproduce the original inspiration of the composer. Toscanini was once asked if he had heard "Walter's 5th" (meaning of course Bruno Walter's performance of Beethoven's 5th Symphony). Toscanini replied " he shoud come to my concert and hear Beethoven's 5th!" It is absolutely not a question of some putative desire for "lack of adventure", on the contrary it is the desire for authentic musicality. This is not jazz. We don't go to a concert to see sexy trendy performers assert their individuality, we go to hear great works of art made vividly, powerfully alive. And we should expect them at a minimum to "play together" as I was taught as a youngster... The Berlin Philharmonic, the Tokyo String Quartet, or for that matter the Ensemble Intercontemporain did not all become famous because each member indulged their multiple individual inspirations.

  • @binacaman

    @binacaman

    8 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps we are mostly in agreement. I definitely feel the performance standards of the great,musicians of the past are in danger of being lost or at least degraded. I too feel many performers today are simply going through the motions. I listened some more, and I have come to the conclusion that my criticism of this particular performance is really based on my dissapointment at Fazil Say's seeming self-absorption. He is mainly a composer and composers sometimes do not make the best performers... Of course we know the incomparable Vegh Quartet played with total conviction and intensity of expression. But they played as one... Cheers my friend!

  • @michaelbohndorf9081

    @michaelbohndorf9081

    7 жыл бұрын

    binacaman ve o

  • @michaelbohndorf9081
    @michaelbohndorf90817 жыл бұрын

    U in

  • @leonardoiglesias2394
    @leonardoiglesias2394 Жыл бұрын

    One should play the right notes, Mr Say……it is Brahms, you know….

  • @arienne3000
    @arienne3000 Жыл бұрын

    Great Fazil.!Kopatchinska with her hysteric moments sorry under level...

  • @billmarrufo
    @billmarrufo9 жыл бұрын

    In response to classicalalways, could you explain your point? In what ways is the last movement attrocious? Please provide hard facts rather than just a subjective and gross disqualification. Give us an example of a good performance in your opinion. I will honestly take my word back if indeed far better. More so if it was from yourself.

  • @robertfrankgill5962
    @robertfrankgill59626 жыл бұрын

    The trouble with having good sound equipment is that you notice all the problems of balance, miking etc very keenly. My sound equipment for vinyl, CDs and stuff on here has always been shit, and I am happy with shit sound.😵

  • @mwhite6522
    @mwhite65225 жыл бұрын

    Shot at too many frames per second.

  • @scottli1406
    @scottli14064 жыл бұрын

    10:58 holy SHIT

  • @gokhanarin1650
    @gokhanarin165011 жыл бұрын

    bu onların öğle yemekler sanırım. müzikle besleniyorlar.

  • @johannesfricke2174
    @johannesfricke21746 жыл бұрын

    Keine Worte können dieser überwältigenden Aufnahme gerecht werden. Einige Kommentatoren fanden den letzten Satz nicht ganz gelungen. Ich muss gestehen, dass mir diese Einschätzung völlig unverständlich ist.

  • @user-er4zg1gf7e
    @user-er4zg1gf7e7 күн бұрын

    Other performances sound like distilled water .... narcotic

  • @ozgurcemg
    @ozgurcemg11 жыл бұрын

    kemandan ney sesi çıkartabilen bi kadın olduğundan bi problem yok yani, ne çalsa yakışır :D

  • @classicalalways
    @classicalalways11 жыл бұрын

    The last movement is atrocious - it is amazing that they were in the same room. But then again, one should expect this from a very eccentric pianist.

  • @billmarrufo

    @billmarrufo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could you explain your point? In what ways is the last movement atrocious? Please provide hard facts rather than just a subjective and gross disqualification. Give us an example of a good performance in your opinion. I will honestly take my word back if indeed far better.

  • @fatmagulyldran4894
    @fatmagulyldran48943 жыл бұрын

    Böyle bir eserde yabancı yorum görmek ne kadar onur vericiyse bi o kadar da incitici.

  • @ershenlin1774
    @ershenlin17747 жыл бұрын

    you just insulted "Oistrak" (I guess you mean Давид Фёдорович Оистрах) by comparing him with "Mutter, Pearlman".

  • @micahhlopez7678
    @micahhlopez76785 жыл бұрын

    The 90 dislikes were from Isis members and SJWs.

  • @organboi

    @organboi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Idiot

  • @robertfrankgill5962

    @robertfrankgill5962

    5 жыл бұрын

    Micahh. You are a sad little twerp.

  • @arienne3000
    @arienne3000 Жыл бұрын

    No internd disciplin by her, is why she never will be great violinist.. .

  • @user-nj7hy5vy6p
    @user-nj7hy5vy6p8 жыл бұрын

    Никогда бы не подумал, что скрипичное искусство после Ойстраха, Менухина, Когана и других титанов скатится до Копатчинськой. Это же ужас какой-то! Раньше даже в провинциальных филармониях так плохо не играли, а сегодня это издевательство над музыкой преподносят как нечто великое. Ужас!

  • @user-oc5ie9fj1v

    @user-oc5ie9fj1v

    5 жыл бұрын

    Девочка старается, хочет донести классику в своей интерпретации, а не играть, как все. И у неё получается не так уж плохо,не судите строго...

  • @nhardenberg
    @nhardenberg27 күн бұрын

    Disgusting

  • @caaicher
    @caaicher7 жыл бұрын

    Out of tune and bloody awful

  • @fingerhorn4

    @fingerhorn4

    5 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree. She either plays pianissimo with a thin scratchy sound, or she thrashes the violin to death with completely over the top excessive weight and unpleasant rasps. She cannot seem to hold a phrase or line, so everything becomes successive episodes of disjointed, unconnected mini phrases. I just don't understand why she is so revered by some. I just find this whole performance unmusical.

  • @simonrodriguez4685

    @simonrodriguez4685

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haters will hate.

  • @macleadg

    @macleadg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The pianist bangs away. The violin sound is loud but unfocused, or soft and anemic. Intonation issues. Constant “look at me, I’m so profound and passionate” gestures & mugging. Bashing away is not “passion”; it’s just flailing. I’ll take Hilary Hahn any day of the week. This is one of my favorite pieces, and they just steamrolled all over it. Not for me.

  • @alanuchoa5458
    @alanuchoa54585 жыл бұрын

    4:32

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