BR00TAL BASS AND GUITAR TONE w/ Buster Odeholm & Born Of Osiris
The key to great tone for mixing downtuned metal guitars is locking them in with a great bass tone. Buster Odeholm shows how he does it with the raw multi-tracks for "The Other Half Of Me" by Born Of Osiris.
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he mixed this and uploaded the mixes at starbucks while working on his laptop while driving across america. buster is a legend. period
@denniskielton2447
Жыл бұрын
you see this on a documentary or something? Because if so, drop the name haha I want to see that shizzzzz
@acidbath3226
11 ай бұрын
he also attained his PhD while taking a shit
@wesmoore4580
9 ай бұрын
My laptop would explode trying to load those fabfilters 💀
@metalheadblues
6 ай бұрын
@@wesmoore4580what daw are you using? Fab isn't that CPU intensive
@wesmoore4580
6 ай бұрын
@@metalheadblues you’re right its super efficient, however my laptop does explode if I have too many Ndsp plugins on
Everyone commenting on your “tone” being abrasive or off, need to listen closer to when he unsolos the guitars and bass.. all of a sudden the drums sound huge the guitars + bass are crunchy .. it’s a good mix
Buster is incredible. Anything he touches is absolute gold in this genre
Phenomenal tones, buster has a great set of ears.
Holy shit you have a great ear. Thank you for not going slow and talking about every single move you made. I loved seeing how you treated the different frequency ranges. You know exactly what your looking for in order to make the bass compliment the guitar
The guitars and bass should always compliment the drums. If the drums sound good in a heavy mix, your track is going to sound phenomenal.
@Progbassist
2 жыл бұрын
Generally that's true, but I think it also depends about the style and approach you are going for. For example in Vildhjarta's new album I feel the main focus is on the guitars and the ambience(even thought the drums and bass do sound pretty monumental too).
@blackbirdofficialis
2 жыл бұрын
Arrangement has alot to do with it aswell
It's very funny to watch people who think they understand at least something in mixing criticize Buster. It would be very interesting to hear what they would have done with these sources
Finally realized this was Born Of Osiris halfway in 😂
Sometimes people really puzzle me. You don't have to love this style, but to go as far as to say the "low end is wimpy," or "I can't tell what notes the guitars are playing"... really? You can't hear what chords the guitars are playing? It's clear as day. This mix works amazingly well for the style. Crisp, punchy, in-your-face and aggressive while having enough control to be listenable at high volumes. Judging something by how it sounds in solo, as many people here seem to do, is a pretty great way to show how little you actually know. :)
Main snare, 3 parallel ones. Wow. I personally think this sounds huge! I'd love more detail about the drums too!
I’m not a fan of deathcore at all, but even in some of the most elitist circles, Buster is respected for his knowledge and production skills.
@lllConlll
11 ай бұрын
elitist circles like?
@8eight104
11 ай бұрын
@@lllConlll like the brutal death metal audiences
This was cool to watch. Thank you!
Very impressive. Thanks for these excellent videos.
What a mix!
My favorite part of the mix is the drums
Interesting, I've never intentionally distorted my sub bass before. New things to try 🤘
Another URM video, another round of critics with no credits trashing the featured mix engineer.
buster has some amazing pair of ears!!
Snare sounds great. Is that a slate snare sample?
7:22 awesome tecnic for bass !! Brutal 🖤💥
Interesting he mixes in solo so much because he knows exactly what he wants to boost or cut out even out of context of the entire mix playing
@BrantFoundConcerts
13 күн бұрын
Yeah that absolutely what I'm trying to figure out here. I don't know how he's certain what to carve out. I feel like thats the most challenging part of mixing is knowing what frequencies to cut and boost to actually get the sound you're looking for from each instrument without them occupying the same space
that bass really said DAN DIDDLE DAN DAN DIDDLE DAN DAN
the moves are a bit advanced for us noobs, don't really understand the meaning behind them or why, but here's a thumbs up for the video title.
@seanedwards94
2 жыл бұрын
I understand what he's doing (at least I think I do) and I would still like some explanation.
Buster is 100% a wizard
all of this sounds awesome you people are narrow
This is fucking massive
What song is this?
Buster!!! Fucking awesome and brutal!! 🤘🤘
More verbal explanation would be helpful. JS.
@morbida
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, my bad 😭
@Jono_
3 жыл бұрын
lol, how many languages do you speak? And when were you featured on nail the mix, and doing it in your second language?
@cmcp975
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jono_ I only speak one language. There are no plans for me to host a NtM vid at this time. I bid you good day, sir.
@Jono_
3 жыл бұрын
@@cmcp975 I came across a bit harsh. All I meant was cut the guy some slack. There's still lots of great info in here!
@shanelarue8162
3 жыл бұрын
Great engineers usually don't talk when they are doing something difficult. Buster is a badass mixer and I've watched his streams more than most for NTM. He may not explain well for a beginner, but he isn't doing beginner shit
What's up with the gate settings? Is that a modern thing? To cut off the guitars THAT bad?
@blastbeatdown
2 жыл бұрын
It’s def an artistic choice. While it’s characteristic of “modern metal” it has been around for a while. Anything involving tight chugging patterns that match the drums, like Meshuggah and Fear Factory have been doing since the mid 90s. Won’t be everyone’s cup of tea of course. It sounds bad in solo but I think it hits hard in the full mix.
@docw85
2 жыл бұрын
@@blastbeatdown I agree that it sounds okay in the mix. But solo it sounds really weird and confusing. :D
@blastbeatdown
2 жыл бұрын
@@docw85 Yup. I like my gate really tight while I’m playing too - as tight as I can get it without choking out certain notes. But this could never be achieved without editing lol. But it serves the recording well.
@djentlover
2 жыл бұрын
It's edited very aggressively to achieve maximum contrast between notes and rests
@truckguy3
Жыл бұрын
@@djentlover or…. More than likely side chained the guitars to the gate of the kick :)
ah yes, the Saturn trick (i don't own it so have to jump a hoop of putting a separate splitter and any pedalboard/amp distortion except for the low end which basically is just being compressed lol).
@athmaid
2 жыл бұрын
@Олег Ларин because pirating is shitty
@randomselect645
Жыл бұрын
Just get a crack bundle it
Wouldn’t you want to keep the kick and sub bass clean and no saturation on it for a metal mix?
@shanelarue8162
3 жыл бұрын
Not always. And the way he distorts it gives it a different effect than having ultra clean low end
@HoshiFanatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@shanelarue8162 Putting Tape saturation evens out the lows and highs and gives samples a more analog feels to it and helps it lock in with everything else.
@lannyfce4786
3 жыл бұрын
ive noticed a lot of people(at least "amateurs") who do this and dont notice they have pokey shit in the low end. I've done this myself too, gotten really thick low end tones and been like "wow this sounds huge" but not realized 1 or 2 of the notes being played is WAY too fucking loud in comparison to the rest of the bass part, so in cars especially your bass sounds super uneven and some parts are okay or even great but then certain notes its just way too much
@HoshiFanatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@lannyfce4786 Yeah definitely. Which is why Multiband compressors like MB work so well for that problem.
@sammytheman8994
3 жыл бұрын
@@HoshiFanatic So saturation on lows/sub lows on metal is good? Plz halp
Thall
sounds like trash until he unsolos everything, then amazingly it works pretty well
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those guitars sound like when you switch between radio waves and found one with instable signal
@lazarushatchette3978
2 жыл бұрын
Really!!??? Sounds like it's a regular old high gain amp going through a cabinet to me
0:17 wtf 😂
@apothecide.1
3 жыл бұрын
thall
I was debating with people saying Les Claypool would be an awesome bass player for Megadeth because of his funk and psychedelia... I was explaining Les Claypool is not heavy and would not sound good in Megadeth with all the prog funk wankery and trying to explain why bass makes guitars sound heavy in a metal mix. Now I can just link this video.
@sqlb3rn
3 жыл бұрын
@@ianmoran8004 you must be replying to the wrong dude, cuz that mix at the end sounds fucking brutal. Also you must have never heard Born of Osiris because "gainy static" does not describe their sound at all.
4:34 if u ever find your eq looking like this, it means you need to turn your instrument down a couple dbs, then eq lol
This guy is a god send...if you don’t want anything said about what’s happening and you want your instruments to be a wall of white noise and hiss
@GTORT
3 жыл бұрын
Says the dude who isn't mixing any famous bands😂
@theAshesofDecember1
3 жыл бұрын
GhettoTorture if mixing famous bands requires me to dial in tones that sounds like someone keeps flipping an on/off switch on a detuned am radio, I’m good
@ianmoran8004
3 жыл бұрын
I really dont understand how people think this style of production sounds good. Like you said, to me it sounds like a lot of gainy static lol. You shouldnt need 7 EQs on a bass for it to sound good imo
@pedrodyck95
3 жыл бұрын
@@GTORT no everything that's is famous is good
@shanelarue8162
3 жыл бұрын
I personally love the raunch. After you've been mixing for a while the same techniques get so boring
Lol art is subjective...and here you all are having a wank about what sounds good and what doesn't. You realize you all can go mix something yourself the way you wish?
To me the guitar and bass tones don't sound good. Why do you need 7 EQs on a bass to make it sound good? They sound like flat gainy static to me. I love the channel, just my honest opinion.
@mrcoatsworth429
3 жыл бұрын
Guess it's just subjective. Not everybody's cup of tee. I think it can be cool, but depends on the music.
@alloounou6900
3 жыл бұрын
I think part of the reason is to lower the volume of the bass frequencies where he wants to have the guitar shine through and raise the volume of bass frequencies where he wants those bass sounds to stand out. But yeah, too much EQ can be a bad move. Just gotta let your ears guide you.
@shanelarue8162
3 жыл бұрын
He is going for a really specific sound, which calls for a lot of eq. Plus this is all in solo, which the point of is to dial in things so they fit in context with the rest, not to sound amazing on their own
@lannyfce4786
3 жыл бұрын
i agree that 90% of music doesnt need such specific shaping but this is a style known for being over processed and thats what everyone does. thats what the song calls for but i agree, I would rather hear some actual bass sound instead of just the subs since the high end of the bass is pretty much entirely buried with guitars and drums let alone when vocals come into play as well
@ianmoran8004
3 жыл бұрын
I will also say that in a lot of modern metal recordings I love the music and album but I feel like the vocals, keys and drums overpower the guitars and bass. Maybe because they cut out so many frequencies to make it "fit" the mix? Just thinking out loud. Nothing but respect for buster.
Gotta love when everything is so over processed you can barely even hear the fundamental in the guitar or bass lol. Great mixer, but sounds like borderline white noise.
@danibiyarslanov
3 жыл бұрын
Is the band choice but damn let the humanity in the music
@colinmitchell1287
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to metal mixing
@CrzyWzrd4L
2 жыл бұрын
White noise still comes out as a note. If you can’t tell what notes are being played then your hearing is SHOT
@dannydimercurio577
2 жыл бұрын
@@CrzyWzrd4L White noise itself does not have a strong fundamental since all of the frequencies in it are played at the same level. This guitar tone is not pure white noise of course - I was just saying it’s close to it. But hey, if you think you can determine the pitch of random bits of white noise, then good for you!
@user-gu3ie
Жыл бұрын
Well..let us hear your amazing mixing skills buddy
Interesting video but I have to say I really don’t like metal bass tones, they just don’t sound like bass. No guts just wimpy tones
@lazarushatchette3978
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, well it's still bass, it's supposed to mix with the other instruments
@jobelewis6416
2 жыл бұрын
Just because it’s got highs as well doesn’t give it any less low end🤷🏻♂️ technically makes it less wimpy because there’s just more