BR Standard 8 Pacific 71000 Duke Of Gloucester Blitzes Beattock Bank at 57mph (2008)
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BR 8P 71000 Duke of Gloucester on the first leg of the last day of the North Briton railtour. The Duke is seen charging towards Beattock Summit at a frosty 8.35 and then crossing the Eden at Wetheral on the Newcastle-Carlisle line.
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Excellently filmed - what a stunning exhaust trail. Frosty weather; the steam photographers' friend!
just shows what an engine in good nick can do - with 13 coaches. Fantastic!
Marvellous footage, superb locations. I particularly liked the power of the locomotive captured in the 'going-away' shot.
Brings it all back. In the 60s a friend and I used to stay with my Granny in Moffat, not far from Beattock, which then had a fleet of Stanier and Fairbairn 2-6-4Ts to bank heavy trains up to the summit. Sometimes the drivers would allow us into the cab for the entire trip up and back. Once, a driver jammed the reguator open with a bit of coal, and then did his football pools. Only now can this dangerous story be told!
I saw the Duke when it was in Dai Woodham's scrapyard in the early '70's. It looked a really sad sight, thin & wan with all it's rods off. Top marks to all those involved in it's rescue, restoration, and rebuild with proper draughting. Now it's a proper loco with the power to equal most "modern" traction units. We could do with more of this sort of thing, but with properly efficient (L.D.Porta type) secondary air admission boilers like those fitted to David Wardale's "Red devil" on South African Railways, and the two modern beyer-Garratt loco's on "The railway at the end of the world" in Tierra Del Fuego. (Much more environmentally friendly too).
I've looked at this video quite a few times and its really grown on me. A Fav! Well shot, superb location, perfect weather & an amazing steam engine. Something stirring about seeing the smoke as a manifestation of power-especially evocative in the retreating shot. I can well understand how 71000 could completely outclass a 47 diesel & a lot of electrics. 71000 Trust have done an unbelievable job! If only there were more resources to take it to the next level with modern technology!!
@martinsims1273
9 ай бұрын
Like a (Liveo Dante Porta type) secondary air admission firebox/boiler. Combustion efficiency almost 100 percent.
I clocked the Duke at 75 when it passed the cameraman here. (I was on the M74 onmy way to meeting at Carlisle. Crested the summit at 68 and then I couldn't get away. Simply awesome.
Excellent video and shows steam power at it s best.Must have had 600 tonnes in tow as well as the gradient to contend with. Nice camera and audio work as well. I believe that this loco is out of action now but being down under we do not get much news.
Lets not beat about the bush, that is absolutely stunning.
Absolument magnifique! Spectaculaire! Grandiose! Merci!
Thank you. It was indeed a fantastic performance - long live the Duke!
Fantastic video David, this HD material is fantastic to watch and listen to..thanks..5*..Bob
Class video. I haven't come across it before now, but this is up there with any of the best of the professional efforts.
Linesider1, an excellent piece of work. This is the best steam video I've seen. Well done and please keep posting.
Thank you very much - I had to get up at 4.00 in the morning to see this, and I'm now very glad I did.
Lovely stuff, enjoyed the 1st shot the most, but both were great
Beautiful images, excellent choices of places! And I'm crazy about trains!!
My dog was highly impressed listening intently and tracking the stereo across the room. It might sound facetious , but that is the mark of top quality sound recording.
13 coaches and no oilcan; that is power.
What a wonderful sound the Caprotti gear makes!
@Linesider1
4 ай бұрын
It really does - very much looking forward to its imminent return!
I'm glad I've just found you David, this is another outstanding piece of work..well done..5*
The duke under br: im too weak. The duke after her restoration: UNLIMITED, POOOOOOOOOOOWWWERRRRRRRRR
At last, a real artistic gem, so so so beautiful and evocative, and such a great contrast to the other mass of wobbly phonecam mis-pans of trains on U-Tube. Well done. You're either a professional, or if not you should think about it!
Excellent vid Linesider.Well done.
Top notch,,, Thats just stunning
We went over Beattock like it wasn't there David but Bellshill was different matter,the 9mile slog testing the DUKE to the max. I was on the footplate and I just cant describe the experience. I had tears in my eyes and it wasn't the smoke, LoL Hugh.
It´s amazing how steep the climb looks, perhaps that´s due to the lens but a lovely video none the less.
CoeurDeLoin, I agree with your point about the Duchess class having the potential to equal the A4's for top speed given the right road. However, I think the Duchess & Duke are more evenly matched. On the 10th Oct, Duchess of Sutherland produced over 2700 DBHP on Shap hauling 625 tons. I think the Duke is more puissant above 60, due to freer steaming valve gear, but the Duchess's are more powerful below 40, due to greater tractive effort. Producing over 2500 DBHP even as low as 30 mph.
Brilliant David - well worth getting up early in the morning for. Chris
Thank you very much - quite an engine indeed; we'll hopefully see her back on a mainline tour again soon.
You're welcome; thanks for such positive feedback!
Thanks for all the great comments guys. Sorry I was unable to reply at the time of posting the video, but it's never too late to say thank you! :-)
Quite simply I was on the M74 keeping pace with the loco over the last half mile to Beattock Summit. GIve or take errors on my speedo I clocked it at 75mph.
Many thanks for providing that info.
brackers, on a test run, after most of the boiler issues had been corrected, 71000 astonished the crew, by continuing to make steam with the regulator wide open at 60 mph, accellerating uphill, with cut off @ maximum & the safety valves blowing off furiously! The boiler produced a record steaming rate for any British loco. Even with both injectors on, they couldn't maintain water level & the regulator had to be shut to protect the fusible plug! The injectors had to be redesigned to keep up!
Thanks very much. I had originally gone to a crossing just to the right of this location, but when a pendo came through it was apparent that the warning alarm continued while the train came through. So I moved further away to get away from the noise - it was definitely the right move and I ended up with a better spot. Funny how these things work sometimes. Cheers, David.
Couldn't agree more, superb effort
Look how hard the duke is trying on this incline
@Linesider1
3 жыл бұрын
The Duke was showing no respect for the gradient! 😁
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
3 жыл бұрын
@@Linesider1 yeah no respect at all
She burbles and purrs,and she has no hammer blow,and now is a high steaming monster.warble that chime whistle,what a beauty.when i used to see her in 1960 she was a bit of a flop as she had not been built to spec.now that has all been rectified it gives us all an idea of what these machines could do.
thanks for this fantastic video hubunight
Wonderful stuff David.
A stunning video. Bravo.
I believe the phrase is "not bloody hanging about"...
@kenmcdowell5325
22 күн бұрын
There's also the other one. Like shit off a shiny shovel
And thanks for such a nice comment. Best wishes, David.
Spectacular video
Stunning 👍😊
Excellent video :)!
AWESOME! WOW 5* AMAZING work nice one
the freeze frame at 1.31 is awesome, forget the speed that it is supposed to be doing just marvel in the excellent footage
stunning...
Thank you. No I haven't seen that series - must look it up. Cheers, David.
Superb video
fantastic
Thank you very much for that information (and sorry for the ridiculously slow reply!!).
Very impressive video whatever speed it was travelling at. I was a bit intrigued by the comments about measuring with a Speedo, till I remembered that Speedos aren't just swimwear!
Magnificent!
Thanks Bob - I enjoy the new HD element, certainly makes my older uploads look dodgy.
Good shots
She was rebuilt at Loughborough took 11 years went on her many times there with Tony wheelhouse we all miss him
My two-pennyworth regarding speed: In the first shot it takes 198 frames (7.92sec.) for the first ten coaches to pass a given point. Mk1s are 63.5ft so that's just over 80ft/sec or around 55MPH... ...and who cares when she looks this good? What a cracking sequence.
Nice video.
Very good vid.
....and no help from a diesel backup on the other end , a fine video indeed.
Majestic!
Almost seems unbelievable that this beauty was a wreck in Woodhams yard years ago, well done , superb video with a nice , different angle, i bet your feet were cold?.
Onwards and upwards David..thanks..Bob
What a beast !
Thanks very much. Class 47s have their place, and I agree there shouldn't be arguments between steam/diesel and electric fans. As long as it's done with tongue in cheek it's acceptable.
Great this loco was saved.
Wonderfull!!!!
glorious in the cold winter air. have you seen the steam at speed series on KZread?
Many thanks - well worth the 5.30 wake up call I think!
It's really ace!
Correct me if I am wrong, but I am not sure that a class 47, good as they are, would in fact climb Beattock or any other bank faster than 71000. When the Duke was first out and running on the N Wales Coast, the consensus of opinion seemed to be that she was stronger than a 47, especially on that horrible climb out of Holyhead, and that was from her drivers. Certainly, virtually all the cl 8Ps around have recorded power outputs well beyond the rating of a 47.
I believe the phrase is "going like stink"?!
You're quite welcome.
Wow - thank you very much for such a positive comment. I'm not a professional (but thanks anyway!) - mixing business with pleasure can be dangerous (that is, of course, if you call pleasure getting up at 5 in the morning, as I did for this haha).
Ermmmm..... WOW!!!!!
well if it is, then it certainly has some issues on the boiler design. It still steams terribly is fired thin.
@beeble2003 I never said it was doing 75 at the point in the video. I paced it over Beattock Summit, which is around a mile and a bit south of where Linesider was stood. She went over the summit at 75 according to the speedo in my car.
abbymick, how would a 47 be better? Agreed, its tractive effort from a standing start is much greater, - but I wonder if you've confused tractive effort with drawbar horsepower? A 47 develops a maximum of 2100 drawbar horsepower. The Duke, with good coal, can exceed that by a full 600 drawbar horsepower! & has already on record comfortably sustained 300 above the 47. Up Shap it would hardly be a competition!
Why didn't we build more of these world-beating machines?
FAB x
wow
No Bollocks. This is the biz.
What is going on, I get a autominus request from youtube instigated by your company that states that there is a copyright problem, as I was sent the video and told that it was taken by a friend minus any copyright and the music composed by a good friend minus any copyright I would like to know what is the problem. I have emailed Julian on the email address provided and am told by that person that he is not lineside video despite your name showing up on the bottom of his email. This is far from being professional.
The only lock that goes prrrrr not chuff.
That seems to be faster than 57mph
@Linesider1
6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was too, but it's been worked out properly - the power of steam I guess!
Could you say how you clocked 75mph? This is a truly awesome performance, and excellent shooting - especially the going away shot - but I find it difficult to believe it is doing 75mph with 13 on up Beattock. 13, mostly Mk1s and probably a lot of those with Commonwealth bogies means a tare load of close to 400 tons. OK, so this is heading south (right?) which is an easier climb, but I would have thought more like 65mph - not to say that is not an outstanding achievement.
@martinsims1273
9 ай бұрын
That loco (as originally built) had sub-standard draughting and a bit of a disappointing output, but the folks responsible for it's rescue and restoration also re-designed and improved the front end, and increased the power by several hundred horsepower. It now produces (I believe) a very useful 3,200 H.P. when working flat out.
Don't forget boys max line speed up the "Bank" is 90 mph...
Where's this place
@Linesider1
4 жыл бұрын
Southern Scotland, U.K.
Stationtostationdavidbowie.
71000 has got to be one of the worst draughted loco's built! Hence why it doesn't steam well and needs such an enormous fire compared to anything else.
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528
3 жыл бұрын
Before the restoration he was bad,now he's one of the best mainline locos
Oh wow, just terific. Nowt else to say, really.