The aim of the game is to knock pins down and hopefully win. How you throw ~ straight, spin, huge hook etc does not matter as long as the bowler is happy and enjoys the game. Every person has a style, no judgement should be necessary.

You have to understand that in Taiwan The oil goes close to the whole way down the lane, leaving no room for the ball to hook, therefore, they spin the ball like this to make it roll on the 1-2-6-10 pins so it hits the others down diagonally. Yeah, it's boring, but the only way for them to do consistently well.

I couldn't agree more with the commentary.

@AG-wi9be

10 жыл бұрын

Hahaha.

@JeffLeff

9 жыл бұрын

Except when he says "a piece of cake" at 1:57. But he was probably joking.

スカイトモから来た人

@shoumakonoha

4 жыл бұрын

ノ

@user-ks3wk6vc9d

3 жыл бұрын

はい！

For the haters, 232 is nothing to sneeze at.

@BlackSkullArmor

10 жыл бұрын

I dunno, with such an easy line into the pocket and having not to worry about lane conditions you'd think he'd score higher.

@genocideoffsprng

9 жыл бұрын

If it were easier to throw a straight line and get high scores everyone would do it.

@avisco01

9 жыл бұрын

genocideoffsprng Right, and everyone would be a professional bowler, on TV making money doing it. Like this kid is doing.

I’m here for all of the genius bowling analysis and wisdom. 😂

イケメンすぎて笑った

@user-jg9hm6yk3g

5 жыл бұрын

それなw

中文評述，底下卻全是外國朋友的鼓勵留言，保齡球明明就是很好看的一門運動，可惜卻無法在台灣風行起來

@banana54321

11 ай бұрын

價格越來越貴也是無法帶起風氣的因素之一 四年前的這則留言打一局的成本就已經60元左右 四年後的今天打一局最少70起跳 假設一周練個三天 一次打三局 一個月至少也要花兩千元在"興趣"上 而且蠻多店家的球道保養越來越差 想練曲球的很難在台灣練起來 只能說沒法風行起來也是其來有自

Cool unique style! It's like he's playing for some perverse Brooklyn. Very cool!

That looks like the most difficult shot to reproduce accurately that I can think of. I'm sure the lane conditions only make it harder. Props to that guy for his accuracy.

That helicopter release is a killer. The idea is to put that ball at about the 18 board if right handed and the ball when hitting the pocket, it would deflect and take out the 3,6,and 10 pins while the 1,3,and 6 would rocket into the rack. That release would be effective on just about every condition out there. That ball can't weigh more than 12 pounds of it would drive though the rack instead of deflecting as intended.

There is no "real" way of throwing a bowling ball, only your own way and what suits you the best.

@anthonyware4033

3 жыл бұрын

Your right there is not a real way to thow a bowling ball but there is the correct way to throw a bowling ball.

@keon.123

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyware4033 lol

The first shot... I've never seen a ball deflect into the 10 pin like that!

@Palaman2122

4 жыл бұрын

That's the idea,you want to throw 10--12lb ball if you go straight because a slight miss will make the ball deflect to the 10 pin avoiding splits or even getting you a strike. if you throw 15lb ball straight it could lead to many 5-10 pin splits.

If it works for you, it works for you. Haters gonna hate.

Lanes in Asia are not (maybe used to be) maintained as well. They just slop oil on the lanes and it's not often they do it. The condition of the lanes became atrocious. That is how this style developed. What's amazing about this style is that it's super consistent on any oil pattern. Their averages are like 215-ish on any lane condition. It's good for a US Open condition where conditions are rough, but on a house pattern, 215 is only ok.

that's the whole point! The technique was developed to combat any oil condition. Well I used to do this it's quite deadly insane messengers bouncing off the walls and it's okay if the ball hits brooklyn.

I average 210 in a PBA experience league, I have a rev-rate upwards of 400 rpm, average ball speed of 18 mph, I'm solid at the line and very accurate for a power player. I bowled some pot games when i was visiting my friend in Taiwan last year, I watched a guy with a the helicopter style average 240 through 8 games with a plastic ball when I was going two-oh every game because I could barely keep the ball right of the head pin. Any touring pro will tell you that style has its advantages.

Who is he ? Super great technique. Very unique.

My friend brought up an interesting point. I'd like to see how the pattern breaks down with this technique. Could drag oil into the center which could affect those who hook.

I only use 2 fingers-no thumb and a 2 hand delivery. I can hook a house ball and ride the gutter as good as any club ball player, my mechanics suck because im 6-1 and started league bowling at age 42 but right now after 2 seasons im averaging 165. Fundamentals depend on what you are taught with. Ty Cobb the greatest singles hitter in baseball history didnt even know how to hold a bat, but he held the all time hits record for 60+ years.

He's not throwing a straight ball. Straight balls roll end over end. He's not doing that. Look at his hand at release, he brings it around the full equator of the ball, causing the ball to spin horizontally instead of a vertical axis. It certainly doesn't look that easy to do, and requires a lot of control in order to be effective.

reminds me of someone trying to learn how to throw a hook

Fun fact: There are two-handers that are capable of spinning the ball like this. And it's not an atrocity. It's an evolution. Have a good day.

@oh_knee7173

Жыл бұрын

this is hilarious now

日本人一人ぐらいおるかなーと思ったら、一人もコメしてなくて草

@planetrob555

7 жыл бұрын

I thought it was about a single Japanese people, I did not rice alone, and grass

@user-xx3bh6oi3k

6 жыл бұрын

tokk random 草

@user-dl9bn3ot5i

6 жыл бұрын

笑笑

@juza3

6 жыл бұрын

胃腸の調子が悪い

@user-ir1ie3hg9d

6 жыл бұрын

レーンコンディション気にしなくていいなんて最強ですよね？(初心者です。) UFOボール練習してます。

I think it's unorthodox, but it's not different when it comes to effectiveness. He's going to play the oil and equipment based on the trajectory, the turn on the ball, and the reaction.

First, I don't think this kid made it to the TV show just because of luck. He's obviously able to stay competitive. If they drench the lanes and have unpredictable oil patterns and strange carry-down, it may be very advantageous to take the lane out of the equation. I think he compensates for lack of drive by hitting higher in the pocket than we would. He must be severely accurate to do that. He may have been aiming light towards the end of the match to avoid splits when he had a sufficient lea

This is Taiwanese and the guy who is using the UFO spinner technique is using a light ball

I'll agree with you there for sure, most centers in Asia have TERRIBLE upkeep on their lanes, but Taipei, Taiwan and Tokyo have come a long way since I quit, my friend even told me that his home center in Taipei just ordered a Kegel machine for a sport league. But on some chewed up lanes where there is no real pattern, I'd use the helicopter style all day if I had half a clue how to throw it like that, because making the standard, logical adjustments will NEVER cut it on those conditions.

This guy is EXACTLY right. The reason people do not like it is because it sort of manipulates the game, as does two handed, and two finger. It's not against the rules, but it just irritates some people when they can't bowl conventionally and score. This "UFO" is a over-exaggerated backup ball. Like this guy said, doing this on REAL conditions would have you barely breaking 100.

非常棒！xsybowling

it is still necessary as you never know what the ball may have picked up between the lane and the retrieval stage. The smoother the surface the less chance of it hooking out.

the spinner is a highly effective technique in bowling it looks usually like a common straight ball but the amount of rotations that are on the ball are what matters , you need skill to use this technique its not an over night thing if you do it wrongly you can break fingers and such , im just a stroke bowler so i don't use this technique but i have done research into most types of bowling throws and techniques

if "he is doing it wrong" then why is his score so high?

he is amazing ......

X's are the name of the game no matter how you get them. 👍

this is quite deadly style; even if your ball hits brooklyn you have a high chance of messengers. Before I got a hook ball I used to do this a lot. The problem for me is it's quite hard to be consistent with your release due to the fact you twist your wrist.

nice n smooth spin

I'm sure this style of release was developed response to either extremely dry or wet conditions because it is not the most effective method for throwing strikes when conditions are conducive to hitting the pocket with a ball that is released in the more conventional style of most professional bowlers. If bowlers competed on lanes with little to no oil where having a hook was detrimental because it couldn't be controlled we would probably all be working on our spinners.

カッコいいね、アイドル出身の二枚目俳優だ…

This is Chinese and the guy who is using the UFO spinner technique is using a light ball

These guys are good, they just approach the game very differently than western players.

depends on the cover stock

I wish I could get a score like that

@jstMichael In other words, in spinning, the ball takes out the entire right-side of the rack, and the 1-3-6-10 pins topple the entire row behind them like dominos. Conventional bowling relies on a more precise system of pin action. IMO, although the domino effect is ingenious, it is still inconsistent, and relies more on gravity than actual bowling skill. It is also a bad strategy when the oil patterns are more modern - allowing the competitor to use the better conventional style.

@jstMichael You're actually wrong, although it took me awhile to figure this out myself. Conventional strike - 1-3 pocket. Ball hits only the 1,3,5 and 8 pins - the 1 pin hits the 2-4-7, the 3 hits the 6-9, and the 5 hits the 8. In a spinning strike, the ball spins clock-wise. The ball must come from the left and enter the 1-3 pocket as if it was drifting away from the 1 pin. The ball hits only the 1,3,6 and 10 pins. The 1 hits the 2-4-7, the 3 hits the 5-8, and the 6 hits the 9.

I'm a tweener and I have to say that is very hard to do, he's not throwing just a straight ball, the main difference is that the rotation on the ball doesn't react on the lane, reacts on the pins. And I'm sure is pretty easy to do something to your wrist throwing like that.

I don't know why people talk shit about this technique, I actually think it's really cool.

I guess there's a good reason why this style isn't used on the PBA. Lane condition I'm guessing would be the big one.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

hey she can bowl a pretty good game with that style :p

hurts my wrist just watching

I absolutely agree, everyone has the right to bowl the way they choose. But if i had to bowl this way, as much as i love the game, i would lose all passion for the game. There's no versatility to try and achieve, etc. etc. In other words we bowl to score high by becoming skillful at tools that help us on particular patterns. That's the fun! NOTJUST for the high scores. If i shot 300 or 800 bowling this way, it wouldn't feel as rich or valuable. THAT'S why.

That's just what I was thinking.. and that's rare in pro bowling

Intresting technique.

まじイケメンw ちょいと顔出してるのはまりも氏か？

@fwtdDummie No I did not. Spinner release is not oil pattern dependent if done correctly so it will still gets lots of strikes even on extreme oiling conditions. The only drawback of spinner release is precision abit too late and it veers of course. But with hook release there's more play I think so even if the ball hits dead at the head pin it will still strike because of the side rotation.

Looks to be a Taiwanese style UFO being done in Japan? unique approach indeed, no hook needed much

@pumazpawz Normally, we use 11~12lbs bowling ball.

fun to watch =)

I play bowling and the key of the high score is just to be precise, the style is not the way to win.

That throw is out of this world!

爽やかすぎんだろw

軌道がかっこいい。手首に粘りがないとすぐ怪我しそう。

イケメンなんだよなあ

He's rolling it right to left as a right-hand bowler, so he's actually increasing deflection getting the pins to sweep to the left and strike.

UFO投球はスプリットになるリスクが高いのかな❓️

@Nelvin78 Proper fundamentals are different when you have lanes made of pure friction. Mika combated similar conditions by lofting the ball. People of Asian descent are generally of a smaller build. Therefore, lofting isn't exactly natural or easy. They figured out a way to be consistent while still being able to deal with their garbage lane surfaces. Proper is what you can repeat, what allows you to score on your lane conditions, and what will strike. Sounds like UFO to me.

Whatever gets the job done....... Don't hate it just roll with it.

"....a piece of cake ....."

the ball spins like a flying saucer.

Wow I never seen a ball deflect like that.

凄いな この投げ方で真っ直ぐ投げられるだけでも驚異的だよ

@Xuin

11 ай бұрын

everyone can study

@Nomad_Wanderer

6 ай бұрын

Why ? You can also do it it's easy. My average is 190+ and i throw straight with slight hook to left. I use common ball no fancy stuff . I learned on my own. Playing since 2 yesrs 3 days a week

@deen52

6 ай бұрын

​@@Nomad_Wanderer　確かに物凄い練習をしたら私にも出来るかもしれないが、その過程で手首を怪我してしまうことが怖くて私には出来ない。

The only thing I can say is that it's a dangerous approach since it's very prone to hit the set of pins right through the nose and leave nasty splits

lmao, just like little kids that watch me curve the ball and try it themselves

@basictransportenthusiast4386

6 жыл бұрын

Glasterz true

I don't remember his name but an older Japanese gentleman was bowling like this in the 1980's on the old ESPN summer tour. Mike Durbin made the show so Dick Weber was on color with Denny Schriner. Dick Weber found this technique fascinating and also commented on what a nice man he was. But, as for this video... Why doesn't the other guy ever bowl?

@Antzcarb True, but he's starting on the left side of the lane, so shouldn't it be better to drive in the ball from the left side for more pin carry? Cause if your a left-handed normal spinner, your ball comes out left and goes in the left pocket. His ball is starting off from the left and drifting "over" his pocket and hitting brooklyns which means less carry. Correct me if I'm wrong.

He actually said "a piece of cake"... LOL

Does he do this all the time? This would be a valuable skill to have if your bowling on a reverse block, but on normal patterns a hook gives you more miss room and the ability to work the oil in your favor.

Agreed with Silentwolf ~

@kameyu1000 nah it basically blows ur arm out really fast bc when u release the ball like that ur arm is twisting in a way its not meant too. i went to a camp at UCF n the coach had a thing bout it n how bad it is on the elbow n wrist n arm. if it hyperextended it they could recover after a break for a lil bit but it does alot more damage then that

That spin tho

As long as you score no one will question on the way you are doing it

イケメンすぎ

With the way he is throwing the ball it does not need to be powerful like that of a high rev cranker. If you watch the pin action the ball hits the pocket and then, because of the spin, deflects and combs the right hand side of the pins. The ball doesn't need to hit hard since it's intended to roll along the side of the pin set instead of driving through like is normally seen nowadays. The ball hits exactly as it is supposed to for that style. It's not your style of bowling.....deal with it.

PK 賽- 鄭朝升(飛碟) vs Robert Smith (曲球) 2011 final exhibition game

han är lika bra som jag är ju :) thumbs up for us

STRIKUH!

The benefits to using the helicopter spinning shot? Dryer lanes

@bowlerboi300 What kind of effect does it have. I'm just curious. Does the overturning of the arm hyperextend it or someting?

@turgi65 ok know i know that spinners get a lot of strikes. one more advantage is that they get a ball speed advantage

epic video, but i choked on my cereal from the commentating. no racism its epic accent XD

its just a back up but thrown at the wrong pocket

I hear what you're saying - no need to tell me to deal with it. It's still a little strange for me to watch, but I get it a little more now. I am used to always trying to drive the ball through the pocket and lessen deflection, this is the opposite almost, deflecting the ball across the 1-3-6-10. So here's my question then: Why (for a righty) isn't the ball usually thrown across the 30-35 board or so to open up the entry angle and add more deflection? This guy aims from almost dead center.

cleaning the ball is unnecessary, right? for ufo bowlers..

Televised tournaments aren't real? Damn, I always thought they were.

btw are theese lanes smaller? they seem so much shorter

5:01 "UH OH!" :P

looking at the comments, im quite surprise to learn that people claim they bowl, but dint know that spin is a legitimate bowling style, as good as hook, cranker and back-up.

@bigyodatheman its used on lanes with a TON of oil....

We all have our dislikes and likes for styles in __insert sport here__. I've seen traditional 1-hand, 2-fingers palm 1-hand, 2-handed and now this UFO spinner stuff. I personally like anything except UFO spinner stuff.