Boss Super Overdrive Or Ibanez Tube Screamer? [In Your Band]

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Two of the most-loved overdrive pedals of all time. How do they stand up in a band mix?
Life too short for long KZread videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ timings below.
Welcome to the show! Yes, one is green and one is yellow and some people think that’s the only difference between these two stalwarts of overdrive pedal history. As we find out in this video however, they can sound and feel quite different. Which one would you choose? Let’s find out…
Massive thanks to Dougie Mussard for being such a wonderful human and even better drummer.
How did we record the band?
The drums are mic’d in the Glyn Johns method (Neumann TLM102 as the overheads), plus an extra snare mic (Beyerdynamic M201) underneath. The bass is DI’d via an Ampeg SVT DI (full bass rig below), the guitar cabs are mic’d as usual (with Austrian Audio OC18), plus our stereo room mics (AKGC414XL). There’s plenty of spill all around the mics in the room.
Everything hits our UA Apollo interfaces for recording and I mixed it (Mick here) using Universal Audio Luna. I really do love the Neve Analog Summing, for what it's worth. :0)
Enjoy the video!
And please visit That Pedal Shop! www.thatpedalshop.com/
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
0:00 Intro playing
2:48 What are we doing today?
3:54 TS9 (and TS-808) & SD-1 intro
6:00 Today’s amps - here’s my clean tone!
8:32 SD-1 & TS9 compared, Tele & Les Paul
11:20 Maximum gain, both pedals
12:27 Guitar volume down a bit
14:48 Lower gain and Strat
18:13 Tele, SD-1, TS9, BD-2w & ODR-1
19:13 Closing thoughts before band
19:53 Band Jam 1
22:32 Band Jam 2
29:05 Band Jam 3
33:02 What have we learned?
Pedals & stuff used this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
• Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2dvn8Xy
Australia: bit.ly/31nz9Yj
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/Xx2Aob
• Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3EkUFv1
Australia: bit.ly/3Dk7zYS
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3EnhrCE
• Nobels ODR-1 Natural Overdrive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3uQx29Q
Australia: bit.ly/3BoLto6
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/QOLJ1Y
• Boss BD-2w Blues Driver
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2DwcjzE
Australia:bit.ly/3lmZUUf
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3nLYAv0
• Boss DD-200 Digital Delay
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2kyinR3
Australia: bit.ly/2smiUsQ
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3cKue60
• Keeley Hydra Reverb & Tremolo
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3CMrgZo
Australia: bit.ly/3l1uvWQ
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3DP8aDa
• TheGigRig Humdinger
www.thegigrig.com/humdinger
• TheGigRig G3
www.thegigrig.com/g3
Bass board
• Source Audio Spectrum Intelligent Filter
UK & Europe: bit.ly/30Br91f
Australia: bit.ly/2G8NDgs
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3nMxSTh
• Ampeg Scrambler Bass Overdrive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3oSW8m1
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/2ZjENtJ
• Ampeg Opto Bass Compressor
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3COtY0q
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/2ZmlRKS
• Jam Pedals Ripply Fall (for chorus)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2PoxKu0
Australia: bit.ly/38Nz0gk
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3nUGdV7
• Ampeg SVT DI
No longer made
* Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
Guitars in this episode:
• 1964 Fender Telecaster - no video yet
• Gibson Custom True Historic 1957 Les Paul Goldtop Murphy Aged - no video yet
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - Mick’s video here: • Gibson Memphis 1958 ES...
• Fender Player Precision Bass
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2CDn3xC
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/e4g96O
Amps in this episode
• Supro Black Magick 1x12 combo with standard speaker
USA: Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/Vy2mqk
• Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb reissue with standard speaker
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/a1rnaQ
• Wallace AC5075 XT/FV MKII (from the mid ’60s) with Zilla Custom 2x10 / Celestion Alnico Gold & Zilla Custom 1x12 / WGS12L
No longer made
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  • @ozmassb2594
    @ozmassb25942 жыл бұрын

    choob screemah

  • @nibrocnoel3240

    @nibrocnoel3240

    8 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @kraftyhandz

    @kraftyhandz

    5 ай бұрын

    @@felixbyrne8063choob screemah

  • @felixbyrne8063

    @felixbyrne8063

    4 ай бұрын

    @@kraftyhandz no. You’re all gullible fools just looking at the price tag and failing to understand that an sd-1 is essentially an improved tube screamer. Use your ears rather than just going with what you think is ‘cool’ to like.

  • @angrybirds2472

    @angrybirds2472

    4 ай бұрын

  • @kraftyhandz

    @kraftyhandz

    3 ай бұрын

    @@felixbyrne8063 we’re not talking about the pedals dude. We’re making a joke about his accent 😭😂 dude chill hahaha it’s just a pedal. Seeming rather jaded.

  • @sunilyapa3018
    @sunilyapa30182 жыл бұрын

    Guys, apart from how incredibly useful these jams are for “in the mix” sounds, they are also my favorite for the killer playing!! I love the noodles, love the noodles, but whilst in a band context it is immediately clear you have both spent a lot of time on stage playing in bands. As someone who has not done that, yet, it’s wonderful to see how relaxed you are, how happy, paying attention to the other musicians, the tones and licks. Crafting a solo. Just when I thought TPS couldn’t possibly be better, you go an add an entirely new world. Thank you again for all the hard work, for being FREE, my goodness, and continuing to challenge yourselves. Many many thanks.

  • @michaelmichael7043

    @michaelmichael7043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi ts9 all the way

  • @aitken1965

    @aitken1965

    2 жыл бұрын

    SD-1 as a boost going into the TS9 sounds great 👍

  • @frankphvrvon3153

    @frankphvrvon3153

    Жыл бұрын

    Swapping pedals as you want is a hell of a drug!!!

  • @MartinMCade

    @MartinMCade

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelmichael7043 Same for me, but they both sound good. Based on the solo testing (without the band) I thought the SD-1 might cut through the mix more, but that wasn't the case to my ears. The winning solution for me might be to have multiple overdrives each set with a rather small amount of gain, and cascade them together when you need a bit more.

  • @TheRealxVincent

    @TheRealxVincent

    Жыл бұрын

    The hardest part is getting up there the first time. After that, it gets a lot easier. And remember, you're there to have fun. The more fun you have, the more fun your audience has!

  • @GabrielRice
    @GabrielRice2 жыл бұрын

    just want to say these band mix shows are some of the best yet from this channel. Putting everything in a real-world context is so helpful

  • @jimmyjams1974

    @jimmyjams1974

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree 💯!!

  • @simonsailer7735

    @simonsailer7735

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's just great to see, how the pedals sound through the mix. That Pedal show really helped me to shape my tone. And with those bandjams there are just many more ideas to try:)

  • @BerryPitje

    @BerryPitje

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree!!

  • @rottalmusik6563
    @rottalmusik65632 жыл бұрын

    For me the SD-1 is the choice💜🤘🎸

  • @sixslinger9951

    @sixslinger9951

    Жыл бұрын

    that and the Waza BD. love both pedals

  • @ricardorochadias

    @ricardorochadias

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, for me it is clear why I got ts9, sd1 and bd2... They sound great. They are classics. If you can you must get these pedals... Tone is something amazing and contextual... There are days I like the clarity and transparency of the TS9, that mid boost... somedays I would go for SD1 (They are quite simliar and different). BD2 sounds completely different to my ears. But These are great pedals... If I had to choose one of them I would be in double trouble... But I would go for TS9 cause I love SRV and his sound.

  • @wonderz_808

    @wonderz_808

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ricardorochadias would the sd-1 be a good pedal for pop punk

  • @SickMetalAddict

    @SickMetalAddict

    Жыл бұрын

    Heresy

  • @seanpowell-burns6626

    @seanpowell-burns6626

    22 сағат бұрын

    @@wonderz_808 ye must use ye ears to answer this question 🪄

  • @MUROKURA
    @MUROKURA2 жыл бұрын

    The SD-1 wins this one, surprisingly! It retains some natural harmonics in the highs, and as someone already mentioned, doesn't roll off the highs as much as the TS-9. What you''re getting then is the sweet chime + the overdrive. More clarity and more bite. Definitely better in a band context. The TS-9 is just a tiny bit muffled. If they weren't side by side most people wouldn't be able to notice, though.

  • @gregs6424

    @gregs6424

    2 жыл бұрын

    Disagree. Both great pedals, but TS9 has more "high" treble and more "low" bass. SD-1 is all mids and kills more bass than the TS.

  • @75vettemaon

    @75vettemaon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sd1 sounds fuller and more natural to me. More like an overdriven tube amp.

  • @paulcowart3174

    @paulcowart3174

    2 жыл бұрын

    Surprisingly feel I could use either and me being a TS guy for a long time My TS was modded by Analogman and has lasted 35 years or more and still counting

  • @jpizzleforizzle

    @jpizzleforizzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The sd1 sounded best overall. Ts style pedals always seem a little too compressed for me.

  • @stuartmurphy8057
    @stuartmurphy80572 жыл бұрын

    Doug seems like the kind of guy that is always in a good mood.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    He totally is!

  • @sethlover6498

    @sethlover6498

    Жыл бұрын

    He is in such a good mood... they made a dance after him. All the kids do it!! Teach me how to Dougie... teach...teach... me how to dougie LOL !!!

  • @Mr.D34
    @Mr.D34 Жыл бұрын

    With Telecaster: alone SD-1, in a band SD-1. With Les Paul: alone SD-1, in a band SD-1 (slightly over TS9) With Stratocaster: alone TS9, in a band it's a tie. The winner is SD into TS9 with Stratocaster, that sound was amazing! What a great video btw, i'm subscribing right away, cheers!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and welcome!

  • @alfredomercurio7356

    @alfredomercurio7356

    5 ай бұрын

    I love TS-9 into Blues Driver

  • @BrianLeverett
    @BrianLeverett2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always been a TS-9 fan, but after hearing these examples, I think I need an SD-1. 😀

  • @endezeichengrimm

    @endezeichengrimm

    Жыл бұрын

    It is not expensive and a good staple pedal to have in your collection.

  • @clayearth8287

    @clayearth8287

    Жыл бұрын

    I've used both. Get a Bluesdriver...or at least compare in store. You'll be surprised with the Bluesdriver. The name doesnt fit that pedal. It's not just for blues. Works great for 80s rock and metal tones

  • @BrianLeverett

    @BrianLeverett

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clayearth8287 I got one and I think it’s great! I just discovered how well it will clean up with the guitar’s volume knob. Like you said, I agree that it’s a staple.

  • @captainhotbunz659

    @captainhotbunz659

    11 ай бұрын

    Into the pedal rabbit hole you go…🎶

  • @jeshely
    @jeshely2 жыл бұрын

    In the band jam, the SD-1 with the Tele was no doubt my favorite combination. As for the Strat I think I liked it more the few times Mick engaged the BD-2.

  • @jeffro.

    @jeffro.

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree! I liked it with the BD-2 as well! I also liked the way the TS & SD sounded stacked. But I really couldn't tell which one was "better," lol.

  • @nico-em7qu
    @nico-em7qu2 жыл бұрын

    Full band format is absolutely killer; hugely informative show has now become groovy as hell. Not to draw any comparison, but the jam format was why I used to always (and still) watch JHS, for Josh's awesome creative skills, and now getting to see you guys bring your musical creativity to the show in these larger arrangements actually inspires you to go and pick up your guitar first, and think about buying pedals later

  • @gonzoduke6805

    @gonzoduke6805

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with that. These are the two shows I look forward to every week. Both are absolutely killing it!

  • @satellitesv03
    @satellitesv032 жыл бұрын

    I love this. That Pedal Show is pulling us from the bedrooms and preparing us for gigs. All with reasonable gig levels, attainable amps, pedals that we can all afford, and showing us how to use it. 2022 is gonna be the best year ever

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yay!

  • @doctersound9630
    @doctersound96302 ай бұрын

    TS-9 sounded better in the mix, but for leads the SD-1 sounded better. Blues driver was better overall. Thanks for bringing a drummer and playing some music. Super Awesome. Cheers!

  • @sydwynd
    @sydwynd2 жыл бұрын

    The SD-1 has been in my rig for like 20 years. For me, there's no other overdrive pedal. I like it for the reason stated at the beginning: it's more aggressive. The TS-9 sounds a little muddy and I prefer a crisp, bright sound. Nice to get a good listen between the two. Would have been nice to hear some chords with the Blues Driver. That was my second choice for an overdrive pedal and I suspect it sounds very much like the TS-9.

  • @everope

    @everope

    2 жыл бұрын

    Blues Driver sounds nothing like a TS-9, it's based on Marshall Bluesbreaker and has way more bass and crispy highs like a cranked amp, where a Tube Screamer cuts low end and top end and pushes mids. Also the Tube Screamers (and SD-1) mix in a bit of the clean signal, the Blues Driver does not.

  • @Jeymez

    @Jeymez

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@everope ya the Blues Driver with the gain set up to a certain point will give you almost Jimi Hendrix vibes, although if im not mistaken Jimi just played straight through a cranked Marshall amp, the Tube Screamer definitely has more of a rock tone, but if you pair it on certain amps you can get some pretty high gain. alot of metal bands used the tube screamer for 80% of metal that came out late 70's, early 80's. the Blues Driver is a like clean boost, when you turn up the gain it gives you a crunchy bluesy sound. you gotta be careful what you pair with it, because it won't take certain pedals as well as the Boss Overdrive and Tube screamer. i noticed where they had it on there pedal board.

  • @arnopurna

    @arnopurna

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Jeymez Metal bands use a Tubescreamer as a clean boost with the level maxed and the gain below 25%. Thus pushing the tubes into high-er gain while tightening up any flubbyness. The BD-2 goes from clean boost to a raunchy, fuzzy distortion, with a much flatter EQ. Much more gain on tap with the Blues Driver. Both can be heavy rock machines depending on the amp/pickups.

  • @chrishepburn1503
    @chrishepburn15032 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see an episode like this about fuzz. Alot of people find it hard to get fuzz to cut through a mix in a live band situation. They love it jamming alone but in a band setting it just gets lost. Cheers.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    We’l do that in due course Chris. Loads of people asking for it… Cheers!

  • @chrishepburn1503

    @chrishepburn1503

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow Great!

  • @pabcrane

    @pabcrane

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used to find this with my Sovtek green Muff in particular. The Triangle reissue less so. It would be an interesting topic.

  • @tareum420

    @tareum420

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow Yeaaahhh ! And if you guys can add the DOD Carcosa to the testing line this would be amazing !!!! Those "in band context" episodes are really helpful. Peace And Love to you !!!!

  • @smelltheglove2038

    @smelltheglove2038

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a solution!!!! The Thorpy Fallout cloud!

  • @pacohack85
    @pacohack8522 күн бұрын

    I just picked up another Od1 can't believe how inexpensive they are. Can't wait to try the OD1", Blues Driver and Boss Distortion all in a chain Thru my Revv G20. Great 3 piece you guys with I could go see you somewhere. Very soulful ❤

  • @blues61
    @blues612 жыл бұрын

    I'll just chime in with everyone else and say that these band context vids are an excellent addition to the TPS catalog. You guys are creating and evolving one of the best, if not the best, Internet resources for us pedal tone chasers. Happy Friday!

  • @SweDing
    @SweDing2 жыл бұрын

    Mick was bang on in the end, stacked SD-1 into the TS9 sounded killer to me!!!! 👍👍

  • @judegrace5460
    @judegrace54602 жыл бұрын

    In my band I use both. I prefer the overdrive tone of the Boss, so I run the tube screamer into it for a lead boost like hitting the front of an amp.

  • @mattgilbert7347

    @mattgilbert7347

    2 жыл бұрын

    Likewise. And a Blues Driver TS > SD-1 > BD-2 The holy trinity of gain stack

  • @michaelinglis8516
    @michaelinglis85162 жыл бұрын

    This is an excellent format guys! I love hearing these pedals in a real live mix. Truly, there is no substitute for hearing the pedals in a live mix. I'm really hoping you'll do more of these in the future!

  • @guitarsimon1
    @guitarsimon12 жыл бұрын

    Damn, the jams so far have been totally epic, you guys are killing it!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    THank you!

  • @matthewwilkinson8658
    @matthewwilkinson86582 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always and love to see the SD-1 getting some love. Although I have to say, Can’t believe you had an SD-1 and a BD-2 on the board and didn’t stack them! One of my all time favourite combos

  • @sixgunlover274
    @sixgunlover2742 жыл бұрын

    Guys, these "in a band" videos are brilliant.....really useful for lots of us "pub" guitarists! Many thanks.

  • @billyshears6622
    @billyshears66222 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these band mix episodes and for starting to concentrate on more common stuff. The episodes on top shelf $300+ pedals are necessary as well but so are these $50-$100 pedal episodes! And the context pedals here are spot on. We've needed this episode for 5 years! 😁

  • @mattheweastel129
    @mattheweastel1292 жыл бұрын

    Really great to hear these 4 pedals in the band context. Its amazing how little the difference was between them once you got the cymbals going. Very enlightening!

  • @trentberry4081
    @trentberry40812 жыл бұрын

    Loving these videos! Did anyone else think the humble Blues Driver won the day? I was quite impressed with it!

  • @smilleur
    @smilleur2 жыл бұрын

    I like this format gentlemen. This "in the mix" concept is so overlooked or glanced over and you guys are giving me so much more information by doing it. Please keep it up much as you want.

  • @mborel
    @mborel2 жыл бұрын

    You guy's playing just keeps getting better and better. I'd love an instrumental album of you guys just jamming like you did today.

  • @MizzouCus
    @MizzouCus2 жыл бұрын

    Loving the full band format. Great to see how the pedals play in the mix, but also how each of you play off each other in the jam. Learning more than just the how the gear works, but how to make killer music with it!

  • @DennisAlvarezMusic
    @DennisAlvarezMusic Жыл бұрын

    This video really points out the subtle differences in these pedals. I already have the SD-1. But now I'm thinking I need both for what they do separately, and to get that SD-1 into the TS9. LOVED that tone. I would love to see more live band jamming. It gives a very real world perspective on the pedals, and I just love to hear you two play.

  • @sixslinger9951
    @sixslinger99512 жыл бұрын

    I have never liked the tube screamer, but love the SD 1. For $50, it's the best overdrive on the market and better than $200 boutique pedals.

  • @drdre4397

    @drdre4397

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's great for 50$ yes, but there not really a comparison to more expensive "boutique" pedals.

  • @whiskerbiscuit6674

    @whiskerbiscuit6674

    2 жыл бұрын

    The price and it's similarity to the more expensive tubescreamer automatically make it the best pedal ever. It's also way more reliable than a ts9. That spring switch on a tubescreamer breaks so much. Anyone claiming that the boutique pedals are worth more than a regular tubscreamer are justifying their purchase. Either that or they are only bedroom players. SD-1 one sounds rad alone coming out of my mesa half stack clean tone.

  • @jrchanning
    @jrchanning2 жыл бұрын

    Another great episode, these band episodes are so much fun and informative as well, great playing by all as well :)

  • @dumbamerica
    @dumbamerica2 жыл бұрын

    The SD-1 sounds great. It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling!

  • @gs5616
    @gs56162 жыл бұрын

    I like the shows that feature the classic pedals that we all have like the SD1 and TS, showing how they are used and set up. And nice to see them with the modern classics like the DD-200. Another great show.

  • @mrmatthew2443
    @mrmatthew24439 ай бұрын

    Great to see you two playing !!! More of this please Note how the pedals sound very similar in the mix

  • @user-ox9gs1bd6v
    @user-ox9gs1bd6v8 ай бұрын

    …and fun to hear and watch. Please more of this!

  • @kmdracer
    @kmdracer2 жыл бұрын

    In the mix is absolutely the best even though I only play by myself. I find the interaction very cool. What I've gotten from this particular video is that I prefer the SD-1, but stacked was awesome. Guys, I know its more difficult to do the band format, but please keep going with it. I especially enjoy watching how all of you (yes Dougie too) meld at certain times. Coming from a drummer background, I do remember what it was like when things just started taking on a certain feel.

  • @johnmaseratis
    @johnmaseratis2 жыл бұрын

    Love it ! I do appreciate we can't hope to have it every week - but this format (explanations, followed by demonstration of the 'band context' with Doug) really is a great format. Thank you.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John! We hope to do many many more!

  • @RichardReneeRachel
    @RichardReneeRachel2 жыл бұрын

    As others have said, this “band context” format is just so so so great. You can keep going down the rabbit hole of possibilities, but I’d just like to say that the differences between OD pedals in a band context also depends on whether there’s a second guitarist and what their tone is like. I know. I know. The band possibilities are endless (keys, distorted bass, etc) but a two guitarist rock band is very common and has a major impact on partnered rhythm tones and certainly solo tones to stand out. 😁

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    We’ll get there Richard. It’s my belief - Mick here - that’s it’s far less about the tone and far more about what you’re both actually playing. Hopefully we’ll get there in due course. Cheers!

  • @fxrparlour1061
    @fxrparlour10612 жыл бұрын

    Amazing amount of information and playing crammed in a nice concise format - love this new direction!

  • @scottverni8333
    @scottverni83332 жыл бұрын

    Now this just brings the whole concept of nerding out on pedals home to exactly what it’s all about …making killer music ! Bravo. Keep the band mix concept going !!

  • @ginoames
    @ginoames2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that you guys are using pedals that most of us have owned or at least tried. While I love all the boutique stuff I dig the real world stuff too once and a while. Both pedals have their place for sure. I prefer the SD1 with humbuckers and the TS with singlecoils.

  • @jodyrodgers2734
    @jodyrodgers27342 жыл бұрын

    Had an SD1 as my 3rd ever pedal purchase, been on every pedalboard I've ever used, only recently appreciated the tube screamer! for me Strat = ts9 Humbuckers = SD1 (and Dan's tele in this case ) the answer of course is both !

  • @stevehahm
    @stevehahm2 жыл бұрын

    I am new to the TPS community. I love the shows about all the gear and I tune in as I get ready for my day to the Q and A. Lately I have been loving the band demonstration of pedals and gear. More, please! Great playing. Great sounds. As Dan would say, “This is Awesome!”

  • @thomcalhoun6341
    @thomcalhoun63412 жыл бұрын

    Very nice! Love this format! Shout out to your drummer! Well done, Doug! 👍

  • @StLSonata
    @StLSonata2 жыл бұрын

    I picked up a SD 1 Second hand on a whim, having never heard one before. I love the damn thing. I'm glad to hear it keeping up with the other pedals. They all sound great to my ears.

  • @ryj2848

    @ryj2848

    3 ай бұрын

    I have a ts-9 but thinking about swapping it for a sd-1.

  • @christopherburnett1745
    @christopherburnett17452 жыл бұрын

    I'm enjoying these jam band videos. Your options for this format are almost limitless, really. For me, I prefer the SD-1, and I'm learning that I really enjoy Boss OD pedals. The BD-2 has been on my board for years, but I've found myself trying to find something else to top it. Now I'm thinking that a D&M Drive style Boss dual OD with the BD-2 and SD-1 would be amazing!

  • @nickheineke5054
    @nickheineke50542 жыл бұрын

    Absolute incredible tone...really digging the "live band" format. Thanks for all you guys do. Cheers

  • @mpasistasyalanci
    @mpasistasyalanci2 жыл бұрын

    I also liked the stack. I was using the tube screamer almost always in front, one day a friend came to my house a drummer by the way, and we played, i was playing guitar and he played with the pedals. I have three overdrives/ distortions, a ts9 style by behringer, a rats by foxgear and a bass big muff. He puts the ''ts'' after the others and i instantly loved it. The filter and compression of the circuit colours the sound,it takes a bit the hair and bite of the other drives out, and boosts a bit the amp. Changing the parameters can sound like changing the whole amp to an other one. Stack it and try settings out of the norm, a non guitarist experimenting took my sound to unknown places that i was avoiding without thinking about it by following the ''norm''

  • @tmaljkovic
    @tmaljkovic2 жыл бұрын

    I have been watching your show for years and I have never decided to subscribe nor have I written any comment anywhere on KZread. But today, finally, I decided to do both. The only reason is that you went to a higher level and finally showed us what a guitar pedal means in the context of basic instruments in one band with multiple different guitars. This format puts you in a difficult position because all future shows must not be less than this. Your opinion, knowledge and patience in making each clip is invaluable to many who need to make decisions and, believe it or not, spend the money we have less and less today. These 36 minutes should be a global introduction to the world of basic overdrive pedals and basic guitar types in the context of the band. Not only that, the type of music you performed is, for me, exactly one in which any differences can be heard and I think you hit it 100 percent. I wish you all the best. Thank you ... thank you very much guys.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Tomislav, we appreciate that! We’ll be doing more band shows for sure - it’s great to play! We can’t make every show a band show….. but there will be a lot more. Cheers!

  • @joequintana5546
    @joequintana5546 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting that I ended up liking the SD-1 more in every example.

  • @Bawookles
    @Bawookles2 жыл бұрын

    I sincerely hope this becomes the new format! Seeing you guys demo the pedals and then put them in a jam is the best!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    It won’t be every show, but it will be a goodly number of them. Cheers!

  • @Bawookles

    @Bawookles

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow Yay!!! Thank you for all the work you do.

  • @kmjansen
    @kmjansen Жыл бұрын

    Wish you guys would bring back the full-band demos. Super cool to watch you guys jam out in a band context!

  • @Enzoayan
    @Enzoayan2 жыл бұрын

    The last jam where Dan is playing Les Paul - epic. Love Mick's bass playing. Awesome :)

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you all round!

  • @kurtisr2339
    @kurtisr23392 жыл бұрын

    Dan is giving Pinot Cappuccino a run for his money! Loving the grooves here; Jam 3 is tastiest for me. Lastly: this week's band name / song title suggestion is "Dougie Likes the Blue One."

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah man, that thumb is a thing of wonder! Mick here. :0)

  • @VodkaSelekta

    @VodkaSelekta

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow Dan actually hunted down Pino at the last John Mayer tour and he held him at knife point until Pino had to let Dan cut his thumb off.

  • @kurtisr2339

    @kurtisr2339

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow Fonzie made good use of it! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @_RLP

    @_RLP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha!

  • @marcusstowe2285
    @marcusstowe22852 жыл бұрын

    Love the show guys! This format, regular format, long or short, it’s all great for me!

  • @TonyLondonUk
    @TonyLondonUk2 жыл бұрын

    Guys I cannot tell you how much I enjoy your channel, 1 day if & when there’s a live show I’ll do my best to be attend it’s a must, live audience would be awesome, Micks opening solo awesome 👏🏻

  • @Patriot-American
    @Patriot-American2 жыл бұрын

    SD-1... Have all these pedal but I just like the kick of the SD-1. No loser though as each has their on quality and could easily be in a line up. Love the Pedal Show and it's my go to channel for this subject. Such great chemistry and fantastic playing here. Kudos to the drummer 👍🏻. Well done mates... From Texas ... 👍🏻

  • @DebonaireDerek
    @DebonaireDerek2 жыл бұрын

    Watching Dan groove out on bass filled me with joy. Thank you so much for doing this.

  • @stephanjones743

    @stephanjones743

    7 ай бұрын

    He sounds like a real bass player, great feel!

  • @scot-combs
    @scot-combs2 жыл бұрын

    Shows like this are so valuable to me, thanks guys!

  • @TheBeriking
    @TheBeriking2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, yes, yes and YES! These jams are absolutely fabulous! Beyond the sheer fun of seeing you guys enjoy yourselves playing, they really put everything in context. I never thought I would want an SD-1 and a TS-9 so much as when I heard them stacked. Brilliant. BTW I agree with Dougie - I liked the blue one. And the yellow one. And the green one(s). Just great.

  • @loopmasta5104
    @loopmasta51042 жыл бұрын

    Great drummer. Great feel and dynamics. I like the more musical band context. Cheers

  • @shinjial
    @shinjial2 жыл бұрын

    I think the SD-1 has exactly what I think the TS doesn't (and annoys me): the roll off of the highs in the TS makes it sound muffled to me, like you're listening to the tone in the next room, and makes it's nasal qualities that much more apparent. The SD-1 has enough clarity and bite that makes those things more attractive to me, though it's very gainy; I don't think I'd use it at lower gain settings, but I don't often go for such a gainy sound - which I thought he does best. All in all SD-1 came out on top to me.

  • @shinjial

    @shinjial

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Maschine_Elf oh, I bet. I totally love the sound people get out of it, it just doesn’t work for me. I prefer bluesbreaker style pedals. And out of these here on the show both Blues Driver and ODR-1 would be best for me.

  • @shinjial

    @shinjial

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Maschine_Elf lol loved the sound effects. Yea, it's pretty cool doing that, but then it's a different application/context and the other parts of the equation matter. The TS alone doesn't do it for me, for slightly broken up tones or fattening up tones. I don't play strats, I play a tele. And I prefer BB and Klon-style pedals for the break-up and boosted tones. In that context it just gives me more of what I love on my tele. The TS rolls off that chime and makes it too nasal to my ears.

  • @nunninkav5307

    @nunninkav5307

    2 жыл бұрын

    The TS-9 has a large spike in high midrange, which makes the other frequencies seem lacking. However if your ears are sensitive to that frequency range (MINE ARE!) and or your guitar rig already has a similar hump, the TS-9 will sound like clangy hot garbage! The sd-1 if it offends is in the high range, but to remedy any harshness there is a high trim pot to remove it. The TS-9 can't trim it's abnoxious mid hump.

  • @shinjial

    @shinjial

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nunninkav5307 you're right about what we hear being relative (that spike meaning it appears the rest is lacking). I use a HSS strat and a 50's tele, and in both cases the TS9 doesn't work for me: the humbucker on the strat is already mid heavy and kinda dark; and for the tele it dampens the chime that is usually associated with a tele. So with my gear it's not good. But there are plenty of examples of people that use it and I love their tone.

  • @nunninkav5307

    @nunninkav5307

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shinjial yep. If you are either deaf or you have a low output single coil which lacks midrange, you will enjoy the TS-9. Others, buy a Boss, maybe even "the blue one" ;)

  • @kanehicks9321
    @kanehicks93212 жыл бұрын

    Good job friends. Lovin’ the in the mix jams. Also thank you Doug for the drummin’

  • @mattylyons6471
    @mattylyons64712 жыл бұрын

    Amazing content as always!!! SD-1 was my first pedal ever!!! Thank you guys!

  • @redlespaul8139
    @redlespaul81392 жыл бұрын

    The only problem I see with these comparing pedal videos, is that once Mick has a strat in his hand you are too mesmerised with his playing to spot any variables in tone. Awesome playing as usual guys

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah man, that is toooo kind. Thank you.

  • @redlespaul8139

    @redlespaul8139

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow much deserved ! also another +1 for the live format

  • @JackStolz
    @JackStolz2 жыл бұрын

    SD-1 boosting my Recto has been my go-to sound for the last decade on the road! That gnarly top end makes the Mesa come alive! Thanks for making this boys!

  • @onlyfromadistance7326

    @onlyfromadistance7326

    2 жыл бұрын

    What kind of guitar? Music?

  • @JackStolz

    @JackStolz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@onlyfromadistance7326 I usually record with a Gibson SG and the music is a bit on the Metalcore spectrum. The band is Too Late The Hero. You can hear the boosted recto on most of our recordings

  • @onlyfromadistance7326

    @onlyfromadistance7326

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JackStolz, nice. Close to what I guessed. I do Close to that also. Epiphone Les Paul with EMGs and Floyd Rose through a jmc 800 2210 which is a bit gainier than a lead. Sd1, wah, and rotovibe. Going for a Zakk Wylde sort of thing. ROCK ON BROTHER!!! \m/>.

  • @onlyfromadistance7326

    @onlyfromadistance7326

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JackStolz , checked out your band. You guys sound great!

  • @JackStolz

    @JackStolz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@onlyfromadistance7326 dude thanks for checking out the band!!! The 2210 is a killer and underrated amp for sure. I’m bet you get a killer Zakk type sound!! Rock on forever big dog.

  • @user-ox9gs1bd6v
    @user-ox9gs1bd6v8 ай бұрын

    Very good to hear the pedals in a band setting. This is very helpful. Thank you!

  • @whoisthenext1
    @whoisthenext12 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed myself A LOT listen to you jamming right here. I turned up my volume pot and it (and YOU) was amazing !

  • @katamedo5703
    @katamedo5703 Жыл бұрын

    This was incredible. I can’t think of a better way to review pedals/guitars than a live jam to show everyone. I learned a lot listening to all of the different combinations. Great work guys. Kick ass drummer too

  • @MrvlZmb
    @MrvlZmb Жыл бұрын

    My SD-1 has been an essential part of my rig for many years and I LOVE the crunch it gives me. Only downside has been trying to tame the mids.

  • @stephsheehy3576

    @stephsheehy3576

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, what did you do in order to tame the mids?

  • @MrvlZmb

    @MrvlZmb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stephsheehy3576 Using as a boost in front of a more scooped overdrive amp channel has helped. Also, staying away from a very midrangey guitar like a LP, and using more single coils. Currently, I'm using a Boss Katana Artist MkII, and I have tweaked the EQ settings on each patch to compensate. I still can't use the SD-1 in all possible situations; but when it works, I love the sound.

  • @gypsysteve3576

    @gypsysteve3576

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrvlZmb Totally. I just bought an SD1 for my Strat into 65PRRI (scooped mids), and it sounds great. Ive been setting my SD1 tone at about 10 o clock, and drive at about 12 for Rock. But then i pulled out my Les Paul Trad which lives in the cupboard due to my favouring the Strat. But WOW ...LP thru SD1 into Princeton is just pure magic! And thats with the SD drive only on 9 o clock (and i usually like heavy gain).

  • @victor2510
    @victor25102 жыл бұрын

    Please don’t stop, TPS it’s only getting better and better. Thanks for sharing and let us be part of it. There are no answers only better questions and epic jams

  • @jamesflack8624
    @jamesflack86242 жыл бұрын

    Awesome band jams. A lovely edition to the show. Please stick with it. Cheers 🍻

  • @keithfreedman9040
    @keithfreedman90402 жыл бұрын

    That SD1 sounded tremendous! Thanks for these band context videos leg ends, it helps give an idea of what levels of gain we need and how to shape drive pedals to allow for clarity and audibility. On a slightly festive note, are you fellows familiar with the Trans Siberian Orchestra? The guitar tones they can get are just insane and their renditions of classic Christmas songs are lovely to behold. My goal this holiday season is to be able to reproduce one of their solos from my own fingers!

  • @Deliquescentinsight
    @Deliquescentinsight2 жыл бұрын

    Both the tube screamer and OD-1 are great for minimizing the 'drive' and maxing the level for a clean boost!

  • @onehotrocker99
    @onehotrocker992 жыл бұрын

    Great idea to hear those pedals in a mix with bass and drums. Would like to see this done more often in the future with your reviews. Two thumbs up on this video!

  • @ianrobertson1781
    @ianrobertson1781 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love your videos, you guys teach us all so much. And the fact that you usually do more technical videos, it's really nice see you guys just jamming and having fun! You guys are amazing 🙏

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ian!

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid88402 жыл бұрын

    I've owed both Tube Screamers and SD-1s and although I find both to be great pedals the SD-1 takes the cake, especially the Waza Craft edition I'm now using to drive my Marshall. I get most of the gain from the amp but turn the level up and the drive down on the SD-1 and get some amazing tones and tighter, more focused low end with better clarity. These pedals will not turn a clean amp dirty, but they will take a dirty amp into more complex territory and help you hone your tone. A great investment.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Niiiice!

  • @alexanderkernoghan4385
    @alexanderkernoghan43852 жыл бұрын

    Great show today guys. I have always thought which one of the sd-1/ts sounds best is about how the player hits the strings. I play lightly and so the ts often sounds too smooth and the bite in the sd-1 pushes me forward in the mix. Similarly when I listen to others that hit the guitar harder that same "bite" becomes overwhelming and the smoothness from the ts suits them better. BUT most importantly of all, I prefer the yellow to the green!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, thanks Alexander. That’s a really important point about how one plays. Cheers!

  • @kungfumonkeyfluff
    @kungfumonkeyfluff2 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoying this format guys! I thought your last video re using delay was exceptional and really informative. Not to mention some really tasty playing and some cracking bass chops too! First class.

  • @TheAtomicSpirit
    @TheAtomicSpirit2 жыл бұрын

    I love this format. Super useful and the jams are great!

  • @aidanduncan8187
    @aidanduncan818710 ай бұрын

    Somehow the TS9 makes the strat a little more vocal and raspy. The SD1 and Tele is a kick ass drive sound too. Fantastic format for the show guys, so nice to hear you playing in the mix, much more natural and really engaging 👌

  • @robertkrause85
    @robertkrause852 жыл бұрын

    Also loving the band mix idea. Would love to hear different non-octave fuzzes - muffs, tone benders, fuzz faces in band mixes and what are enough mids. Since COVID and band inactivity my sense of what cuts (beyond a very general rule of thumb) has waned

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    We’ll get to that in due course Robert. Cheers!

  • @8466849
    @84668492 жыл бұрын

    Thank you gents for another installment of awesome guitar tone and friends having some fun!

  • @MrLeka1111
    @MrLeka11112 жыл бұрын

    Yes that's right ...Good band, fine sounds, every things about effects come with sense in the band . Excellent playing. I am really enjoying . Thanks men....

  • @nickharrington12
    @nickharrington122 жыл бұрын

    You know it's going to be a good episode when Mick mentions Zakk Wylde before the playing starts. Zakk indeed used the SD1 along with the CH1 Super Chorus out in stereo to two 2203 JCM800s. My favourite guitar sound by far! Great episode. Mick, your band mixes are sounding really good.

  • @SlingShot830201

    @SlingShot830201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which album? This sounds very interesting

  • @nickharrington12

    @nickharrington12

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SlingShot830201 No More Tears was this setup including a Crybaby and Rotovibe. His setup has stayed pretty similar over the years. The Super Chorus changed to a Chorus Ensemble at some point, and then the Boss pedals changed to MXR when Zakk got his signature pedals with them.

  • @RobertFisher1969
    @RobertFisher19692 жыл бұрын

    I think these are some of the most valuable shows you’ve done. Comparing gear in a band & KZread context really helps to highlight what makes the difference in context where certain nuances are going to get lost. (Of course, how the gear affects our performance is important, but you also want to consider what the audience can/cannot hear.) Generally I did find the TS to stand out more with the Strat while the SD stood out more with the other guitars. But probably the biggest take away is that the difference isn’t big enough to worry too much about. It did seem that, whenever it was on, the BD really stood out. Though that may have been just that it seemed to have more of just the right high-end. I do wonder if most of the differences in the band context could be made up for with an EQ.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    It would certainly go a looooong way Robert, the EQ thing. Cheers!

  • @carljohnson8364
    @carljohnson83642 жыл бұрын

    Have to say this “in the mix” stuff is really enjoyable. Cheers guys definitely on to something here. 🍻🍻🤘😎🤘🎶🎸

  • @davidthomas3725
    @davidthomas37252 жыл бұрын

    Love this format. Especially for gigging musicians. The pedal in a band context is what I personally am interested in. Thank you!!!

  • @BaronsDuju
    @BaronsDuju2 жыл бұрын

    In a band setting, with Mick on the strat, I think I like the TS9 the least. It just has such a full mid push. It’s almost colouring the sound too much. The SD1 allows more of the guitar come through while also giving it a nice push in the mids. Plus I prefer the SD1’s slightly more gnarly overdrive.

  • @fletches4084
    @fletches40842 жыл бұрын

    Just revisited the 3rd jam for about the 8th time and I know I said Dan knocked it out of the park but I'm really starting to appreciate the job Mick and Doug did behind him. All round that was great from start to finish. In fact reminds me of Phish when they cut loose and really start to muck about and enjoy themselves. This is a really great format. Gives everyone a chance to express themselves. More power to your elbows guys.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Aniki82
    @Aniki822 жыл бұрын

    Sd1 always been one of my favorite And I'm glad to see it getting again some love! 😎

  • @leandro0rsantos
    @leandro0rsantos2 жыл бұрын

    I love this show and learn so much with you guys

  • @smelltheglove2038
    @smelltheglove20382 жыл бұрын

    Both amps, no pedals, gold top sounds amazing. I know that’s sacrilegious on this channel but what can I say. Those supros are fantastic.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing sacrilegious about that! It be truth!

  • @smelltheglove2038

    @smelltheglove2038

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow U-S-A! U-S-A! ….Meanwhile, in my bedroom playing my English built AC-15….

  • @michaelinglis8516
    @michaelinglis85162 жыл бұрын

    They are incredibly similar circuits with the most notable difference being that the TS9 has symmetrical diode clipping and the SD1 has asymmetrical diode clipping. If you add a switch to a TS9 for an asymmetrical clipping mod it becomes so much more versatile. It's such a great mod. Remember Boss had a patient on the asymmetrical clipping overdrive so Maxon couldnt use asymmetrical when they designed the original tube screamer even if they thought it sounded better which in my opinion it can sound much better depending on the situation of course. Like Dan said here the tone stack also plays a big role In the differences but when most people say they prefer the SD1 it's because they prefer the asymmetrical clipping sound even if they dont even know what clipping is lol. Anyways both are excellent drives and they are both fully capable to work within any genre. I personally prefer a ts9 with a mod for an asymmetrical clipping option and a no diode clipping option (with a slight eq tweak in the no diode position to let some more low end through). And for a warmer open sounding drive I prefer to use a Klon instead of a SD1. But again the SD1 is just as capable; if I were to show up to a gig without my gear and all I had for an overdrive was a stock SD1 I wouldn't have any trouble dialing in a great tone.

  • @ferrinbonn
    @ferrinbonn2 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear these in a mix. I really like this format. And it was nice that you included the ODR-1 and BD also. They probably get outsold 10 to 1 by the SD-1 and TS but I think they tend to sound better into a clean amp.

  • @BrentAdams
    @BrentAdams2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys! I've had those two pedals on my board for years. Love them! I use the TS9 for a little more grit...the SD-1 for a cleaner "more" tone...and as a boost when using the TS9.

  • @slimturnpike
    @slimturnpike Жыл бұрын

    To me, the SD-1 sounds more compressed than the TS-9, even while it's more aggressive. More sustain as well. In the band mix I liked the SD-2 into the TS-9 a lot. The surprise for me was liking the Blues Driver the most, as a pedal on its own. The others cut too much low end for my tastes.

  • @jtcolecomedy
    @jtcolecomedy2 жыл бұрын

    Lads! Caught 2 Jason Isbell shows this weekend. What a thrill to see live music again! Especially such a great artist. He’s in the UK next fall. Getting Jason and/or Sadler Vaden on the show would be incredible! They have great gear and use it well. Mick, you could get Jason to sign your Tele!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    He can keep his damn pen off my damn guitar! But it would be an ultimate honour to have him on the show. I would LOVE that. Mick here. :0)

  • @jtcolecomedy

    @jtcolecomedy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatPedalShow haha!

  • @VintageRadius
    @VintageRadius2 жыл бұрын

    KILLIN IT!!! Love the format gents. Whole new dimension of TPS.

  • @Terryomalleyonline
    @Terryomalleyonline2 жыл бұрын

    I like the band jams. Fun, practical and helpful. Great work

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