I like AEW but I love bookers’ line. “You wanna be the NEW WCW? You are.” Legend

@linewalker

Жыл бұрын

AEW has so many Maineventers: MOX, OMEGA, Punk, Adam Page, Jericho, Christian, Danielson, MJF, and Cody if he stayed

@thegreat1007

Жыл бұрын

AEW IS WORSE

@anthonyanderson9303

Жыл бұрын

@@linewalker and have no idea how to properly book them

@mrwarped

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreat1007 looking for attention are you?

@kurtisbased183

Жыл бұрын

@@linewalker adam page is not a main eventer

The problem is Tony is allowing too much backstage politics and at the end of the day whatever he says goes and he needs to tell the roster that.

@songokusan9059

Жыл бұрын

I like tony but he doesn't give me authoritative leader vibes. Seems too nice for the role

@BlueAmerican26

Жыл бұрын

@@songokusan9059 he’s playing general manager mode. He’s just a friend to all his little indie darlings.

@songokusan9059

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueAmerican26 I'm definitely not hating on the guy and I give him credit for putting his money where is mouth is, but he may be in over his head dealing with big roster. I hope it goes well tho

@jackson5781

Жыл бұрын

Vince allowed the same shit

@jackson5781

Жыл бұрын

Vince allowed his son in law, Vince hated on WCW, Vince hated on many independent stars, Vince did the same stuff

Booker hit it right on the head...ONCE AGAIN!!!

Checks and balances is the perfect term that needs to happen in wrestling. You can’t give creative control to a talent it needs to be a happy medium between talent and people in the back

@jmurdock8303

Жыл бұрын

@Lyles music Hogan brought the money in

@jmurdock8303

Жыл бұрын

@Lyles music Hogan cause ,2 big booms I'm wrestling . He is not that good

@jmurdock8303

Жыл бұрын

@Lyles music that had nothing to do with I said You heard that somewhere and it was like I have to use it.

I really respect Booker T's opinions. He's very fair in his comments, but never disrespectful.

@ivanlinkov157

Жыл бұрын

It’s refreshing to hear

@patrickboian8545

Жыл бұрын

I want him to burry Punk so bad lol.

@thegreat1007

Жыл бұрын

Youre just saying that to be "PC"

@brisky__

Жыл бұрын

“But never disrespectful” LOL okay 😂😂😂

@verynaisu

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how people feel like even in his fairness he is seen as "disrespectful" by guys like xavier woods and big e

Booker, I've been a fan of yours for over 20 years and have enjoyed your work along the way. Just want to say my thank you for the thrills and laughs you provided! Thank you for always being real. Much love.

I completely agree with Booker 100%. If you don’t know your history you’re doomed to repeat its mistakes. The grass is not always greener on the other side. If there is no control in the work place, it will get completely out of control. Vince had been in the business for over 40 years that’s why WWE is where it is today compared to WCW, TNA and AEW.

@UFCWWE69

Жыл бұрын

As Jim cornette has said, Vince never had the best wrestling company but had by far the best business out of everyone.

@Mr.Majestic77

Жыл бұрын

TNA (Impact Wrestling) has been around since 2002, almost over 20 years. The promotion definitely has control of the locker. Same with Major League Wrestling (since 2002) and the National Wrestling Alliance (since the 1930s/1940s) which has been around even before the WWE.

@ryandavis4448

Жыл бұрын

You may just be getting worked...

@anthonyanderson9303

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.Majestic77 those are all basically indies at this point, nothing compared to what they were at their peak.

@michaelvincent7115

Жыл бұрын

Except wwe ratings fell off

Punk and FTR are standing up to The Elite

@misters4022

Жыл бұрын

civil war huh? lmao. never seen punk in the ring with omega so theres so much truth to that statement

@Baraka_Obama_

Жыл бұрын

@@misters4022 don't think Kenny is involved since he's been gone but the Bucks have buried FTR they should be Champions and running the tag division but instead are feuding with Jay Lethals crew it should be DTR vs Swerve in our glory at All Out

@misters4022

Жыл бұрын

@@Baraka_Obama_ agreed. think each side has their flaws. punk is insufferably self centered and sometimes disingenuous but he is a good promo and a good wrestler, understands psychology wayyy moreee than the bucks and omega. meanwhile ...kenny omega and the bucks are still younger than cm punk and they have many yrs ahead of them moreso than punk so I think if you tony I guess u have to go with punk as champion until you can squeeze that juice out for everything its worth but man he aint gonn make it easy backstage

@Baraka_Obama_

Жыл бұрын

@@misters4022 exactly makes you wonder why Cody left

@misters4022

Жыл бұрын

@@Baraka_Obama_ he didnt get the bag he saw punk bryan and adam cole get the bag lmao

Adam page started the whole thing by going into business for himself. Punk just gave him a receipt

@misters4022

Жыл бұрын

i could see that. i empathize with hangman though because everyone's else hands are cuffed while punk gets free reigns to do whatever he wants? nahhhh lol if im hangman and at the time he was cold as a fish market, that promo was wat u needed. but can punk dish it out but not take it though?

@YA-ke5zg

Жыл бұрын

I guarantee it is the bucks camp that prompted hangman...Tony should get rid of the bucks and omega as evps..

@exiaR2x78

Жыл бұрын

@@YA-ke5zg Its honestly a safe bet. Its weird people dont see it cause its so obvious

@jtsra7

Жыл бұрын

I'm on Punk's side on this one because that Hangman promo was Screwed up and was trying to derail all the baby face momentum on Punk in order to make himself a bigger face. I didn't like Page doing that either.

@misters4022

Жыл бұрын

@@jtsra7 true but remember punk (as a face) got free reign to shoot himself. and another thing: punk had 2-3 promos as a champion and didnt say nothing about that promo anyways so why now? which is why theres obviously much more to the story. I dont condone what hangman did but perhaps half the locker room was already getting sick and tired of cm punk even then

Exactly Booker, Tony Khan has to have a set and stand up to these guys no matter how big of a star they are (or think they are)... Like WWE said years ago "No one man is bigger than the company"

@pleaseshutup7053

Жыл бұрын

Vince didn’t even stand up to his stars no way Tony kahn is

@anthonyanderson9303

Жыл бұрын

@@pleaseshutup7053 how didn't he? Everyone knew Vicne ran the show.

@ShadowofLegacy

Жыл бұрын

Yet he let those who had massive star power like Hulk Hogan walk all over him and changed booking because of him

@pleaseshutup7053

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyanderson9303 Vince and hbk

@MrSircharles05

Жыл бұрын

@@pleaseshutup7053 dude, Vince let HBK get away with so much stuff, to this day I still see people wondering if they were doing some stuff together behind the scenes

Truth be told, most people kinda thought it was odd when Page said he was there to save AEW from him during their feud. If that was a shoot, then I don't blame Punk. And I like Page.

@exiaR2x78

Жыл бұрын

The lines about masterbatory Brett Hart tributes ect as well seemed like they were legit shots cause seriously who would that even appeal and why is it relevant to the storyline?

@jtsra7

Жыл бұрын

That's what I think too 100%!!! I didn't like or understand why Adam Page came out the Blue painting Punk like a phony with a Heel turn coming in his Promo. It put Punk in a weird position and it didn't fit and it didn't feel right. I think this is Punk's revenge for that and it IS deserved because that was messed up of Page and didn't make anything Better for him doing that.

@AllEliteHub

Жыл бұрын

@@jtsra7 Eddie Kingston also hates Punk on the show, has said he always hated him and how he is a P.O.S and fake (in character), he says the same about Claudio despite Claudio being a face. MJF was also calling Punk fake, I think they are doing an angle on Punk being a selfish guy. Whether it is true or not I don't know, maybe a bit of blurring the lines. We will have to see what happens going in to All Out.

@cryforthemoon

Жыл бұрын

@@exiaR2x78 I remember Brett was the one to present the AEW championship belt. Maybe he's still butthurt he didn't become the first champ.

@initailo1536

Жыл бұрын

Y’all defending punk is crazy, y’all would do anything to defend someone you don’t even know personally. Wild

Great conversation. Both wise men

@ruffus8012

Жыл бұрын

Both are very biased. Booker never liked punk. One sided discussion

If you wanna see a company buried Over RUMOURS, just call Brad Gilmore!! Damn.

@robertdevargas5656

Жыл бұрын

Love the guy 😁

Dude, booker t been watching you for a long time, I love how honest you are about everything. I think you made the exact point with Mandy rose. I’m glad your girl won it off of her! Much respect booker. Always a fan, say what you mean and I love it.

"You wanted to be in that WCW position........You're IN IT!" LOL Quote of the year.

@RealityOfWrestling

Жыл бұрын

😂

I really wish Booker was in AEW. The man is a phenomenal wrestler (one of my top favorites along with Shelton Benjamin, Taz, Shinsuke Nakamura, Sabu & Kurt Angle). He'd be a great trainer/coach & his ROW wrestling academy would definitey make a great developmental territory. I guess WWE was smart in signing him to a legends contract so that AEW wouldn't sign him.

@wingedhussar1453

Жыл бұрын

he won't be knows WWE money is way better more stable

The self proclaimed best in the world

@UFCWWE69

Жыл бұрын

Lol how can he honestly say that shit still when he’s got a major botch in every match he’s in these days

@rorymatthews7416

Жыл бұрын

Frfr he looks trash every time I see him wrestling that promo on mox was crazy all the things he said didn’t make any since everybody else makes him look good yeah your cm punk not that longest world champion cm punk he said he came back to help new talent but nope

Lets crystalise the issue that Punk has. Its not "don't say this about me in a promo"... its "don't go around convincing the internet that I'm playing politics and having your EVP friends and Uncle Dave let people believe I'm getting people fired" I can understand Punk's frustration here. Cause look at the interviewer dude here. He totally believes Page and the Kukumanga kids are being abused here.

@marathiboi96

5 ай бұрын

He totally forgot CM punk left WWE cause of Staff infection and decided to wait out of his contract.

There's a little part of me that's hoping this is all the most complex work of all time.😂🤣😂

I would love to here The Book talk.

The problem is that he thinks that he's a big draw,and he's not. Even the rock told him that on Twitter.

@ihatezen

Жыл бұрын

I mean he kinda was at some point so you're wrong

@Cromenockle

Жыл бұрын

Don't you get that this is all a work? 😂😂 Aew was beeing surpassed by this news of WWE and triple h taking Over, after yesterday everybody was talking about aew, punk , mox , Adam Page , the aew title and even MJF rumours. This is well done, i think its gonna be a 3 way Adam Page v Punk v mox at all out.

@eltoro_ttv

Жыл бұрын

@@Cromenockle i was low key hoping it would be a 4 way with Omega, but never mind

@bighomiekitchen2193

Жыл бұрын

They're friends it was probably a rib

@douggambill5826

Жыл бұрын

He's a bigger draw than anyone else in AEW

Gimme only cmpunk and mjf there the main reasons I watch aew but we need mjf back. Even in WWE mjf would be awesome

I gotta say I'd never imagine Booker rocking a 2001 WCW shirt talking about AEW beef with Punk and Page. What a time to be alive

At least in WWE I could sympathize with his bad booking post pipe bomb. Even when he was champ he rarely main evented. But now he seems much more abrasive and close minded. Also I can't stop looking at that Bear T.

@initailo1536

Жыл бұрын

Yup here he has all the freedom to do what he want, and yet still complains

So CM punk is not delivering???? 😂😂😂 This last couple of months AEW has gone downhill, in two weeks CM Punk comes back, and puts AEW on the map, when everybody is talking about triple h and wwe. THINK GUYS

@AznagPT

Жыл бұрын

Hope so

@DontAdoreYou

Жыл бұрын

And they bday he’s not a draw😂so why is he the biggest story in wrestling right now as soon as he returns? Stories like this is what gets people watching!

@UFCWWE69

Жыл бұрын

Put AEW back on the map? All Twitter and the wrestling news sites are gonna be talking about smackdown after tonight

@KnucklesWTD

Жыл бұрын

@@DontAdoreYou because it proves his detractors right. He abused his power as soon as possible

@Cromenockle

Жыл бұрын

@@UFCWWE69 but dynamite had huge impact yesterday, in a month that all we ear is about triple h and wwe

Spitting facts. Can you dig it?

Booker is keeping it 💯 I agree completely

The matches ,the performance, won't be what brings down this company ultimately. The fact that Tony is a clown, and a mark is what will bring down the company.. He wanted everybody to like him more than McMahon, and because he was more concerned about that, these are the dynamics of his company now. Until he actually becomes a real man, and stop being a fan boy, and a bootloader, until he stops behaving that way, the company won't change for the better.

Seems funny to me that the only people that have had a problem with him all come from a certain circle. While the young guys who aren't cliqued up keep giving interviews about how much they love having him there. Also seems strange that something which happened back in May made him want to quit, but just two weeks ago he had tears in his eyes at comicon talking about how grateful he was to be back and how he was gonna do it for as long as he's able. And I wouldn't think anything of it were it not for the fact that one of the people involved belongs to a group that has most of the wrestling media in their pocket, and a history of trying to discredit anyone that doesn't embrace their style of wrestling. See what no one wants to mention is all the little potshots they've been taking at him and Danielson both since they got there, and it was MJF and FTR who were their targets before that. See the theme there?

@shadycnetwork

Жыл бұрын

Damn you came hard defending CM junk. Is he your boyfriend or something? You would think so lol.

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Dude Cm Punk has always been this way since his ROH and indy days he likes things his way.I would say both are wrong specially since supposedly Hangman didn't talk to Punk to say things but Punk looked so bad by making Hangman a top face look like coward

@shadycnetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrivera8360 like I said he's a primadonna.

@SoFlyBmOr3

Жыл бұрын

There may be something to that. But CM punk is a very combustible personality to add to any locker room it was only a matter of time before some situation came up. I'm sure the aew clique doesn't want to give up their standing in the company and TK is very much into Punk so that in a way threatens certain guys

@kombatdaddy1773

Жыл бұрын

Seems funny to me how marks like you are the only people defending him

I want this tshirt too

I dig this

Right now ego and nepotism is dragging AEW down. Combined with bad/nonexistent booking, and a boss that’s in over there head you start to see this promising company become it’s worst enemy. I want to see AEW be successful, I really do. A Jim Cornette type personality would do wonders for this company.

@lukefox6095

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It was a great time just a year ago but things are looking really dark at this point.

@QuynhNguyen-zw8uv

Жыл бұрын

Ironically enough Cornette was originally approached about being involved.. but when he found out who else was involved .. thank you fuck you bye..

@ShadowofLegacy

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Rednecknerd_rob9634

Жыл бұрын

lol, Cornette: Fine him and fire him lol.

@lionheart6608

Жыл бұрын

Aew Has Sucked The Last 3 Year's. Aew Is A Company That Started Out Good And Then Immediately Overnight Sucked.

Danielson should have told Khan no thank you as well on losing to Page. Danielson was white hot, and Page was forgettable. Don't blame Punk. Page also called him out when he was not there. Don't start nothing, won't be nothing.

@allforgreatness9883

Жыл бұрын

He just won the title that was his 1st defense that would’ve been bad booking 101 what killed hangmans momentum was tony not booking him he even said this.

@brandonlanders3277

Жыл бұрын

@@allforgreatness9883 Hangman had no momentum to start with

@allforgreatness9883

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonlanders3277 yeah he did he was their most over babyface and tony barely booked him

@garrettkeithr

Жыл бұрын

@@allforgreatness9883 what momentum? Page was booked to be a morose, depressed drunk that hung around losers for 2 years before he won the world title

@awesomecool3280

Жыл бұрын

Facts

This is good for business, its got people talking.

I love the Triple H promo, cus it's scary accurate of CM Punk.

@larganzo

Жыл бұрын

Which one?

@metashadow3924

Жыл бұрын

@@larganzo This one kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2SVqM6imtrTcpM.html

@lawbailey80

Жыл бұрын

it was cena

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Triple h is not the inovator of that many people before that said Punk was like that.And let's not act like Triple h never buried people.

@allforgreatness9883

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrivera8360 he told them to their face he was gonna step on them he didn’t snake people like punk did

2:20 - everybody seems to be “reading between the lines” and coming to the conclusion that it’s about Punk “getting his way” ... but for some reason nobody will acknowledge that maybe Punk is just saying “what you are doing isn’t working as well as you guys think it is” and people are getting butthurt about it.

@adamandanna

Жыл бұрын

exactly name one big star in the last couple of years who hasn;t made a few demands or been out for themselves a lot of aew has goofing shit going on and i don;t blame punk for trying to stay away from the silliness. Austin didn;t want to work with marc mero or jeff jarrett. did anyone get on his case?

@blax0078

Жыл бұрын

@@adamandanna but Austin worked with those two individuals though.

@adamandanna

Жыл бұрын

@@blax0078 before he was world champion yes but not after

My favorite professional wrestler from my childhood

What real "fight fan" would EVER tune in to see someone that could not win an MMA fight. He could not win a single fight there, but he's the world champion??? He's small, he's old, every opponent has had to carry him through his matches. It makes wrestling look FAKE as hell. I'll start watching again when he is GONE!!!

@jwduckpaddle

Жыл бұрын

So you are only a fan of brock lesnar, lashley, and jake hager then? This is a dumb take.

@adamcummings4060

Жыл бұрын

It's not that he lost. It's how he lost. He looked like a little girl against pretty much nobodies. That and him taking a spot on ppv from someone who actually deserved it because of name recognition was just about the biggest hypocrite thing ever done by a wrestler. Cm punk is literally the biggest hypocrite in wrestling history. Period.

@georgekenny2294

Жыл бұрын

@@jwduckpaddle Well, let's just list all of the people that could beat C M Punk. Well, everyone in the WWE, even Rey. In AEW we have Wardlow, Hager, Mox, Hangman, Kenny, Miro, Murder Hawk, Hobbs, Claudio, and so many more would simply embarrass this old fart. I think even Jim Ross might have a chance to beat him. It is a complete and total JOKE. What MMA fan would EVER say "Hey, that guy that couldn't even win a fight in practice, how's he doing over there in wrestling? He's the CHAMP. OMG. What a JOKE." Be a fan if you want. It just says something about YOU! You want "pretend" over "real", and the reason for is that .... (just fill in the blank, because it does not matter at that point.)

@georgekenny2294

Жыл бұрын

@@jwduckpaddle Look at it this way. Back in the day in Mid South wrestling Cowboy Bill Watts had a rule that if you ever went to a bar or anywhere and you got into a fight, you had better win. If someone kicked you butt in a bar somewhere, you were FIRED on the spot. He said that he could not have a person wrestling that fans knew could not win a fight. Well, C M Punk went out and LOST EVERY FIGHT he was in. He is by definition a LOSER!!!! How can someone PROMOTE someone that CAN"T FIGHT!!!! He makes all of wrestling into a freaking JOKE!!!

@TheCmascagni

Жыл бұрын

He’s had 2 more real fights than Page. If they had a shoot fight, Punk would hurt him

Funny that Punk called WWE cowards weeks ago would he have done that if Lesnar was in Hangman place???

Punk is the star all the indie middle carders getting pushed as stars think they are bigger than they are

@bbertgilo1574

Жыл бұрын

clear delusions of grandeur...

I couldn't get into AEW as much I did in 2019-2020 and that says a lot on how it has gone.

@RealityOfWrestling

Жыл бұрын

There’s a lot of good on the show, then there’s silliness.

@playmaker5515

Жыл бұрын

Why though

@RiruKrypto_

Жыл бұрын

@@playmaker5515 it’s like a TV show, it was good when it was new and then it fell off. I would rather watch WWE more nowadays since Triple H is in charge.

@TheMackoftheyear

Жыл бұрын

@@RiruKrypto_ wwe sucks

@RiruKrypto_

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMackoftheyear I’m assuming you are an AEW fan? It’s going downhill. 😂

Cody seemed to get out of there pretty quickly when Punk arrived🤷‍♂️

@RealityOfWrestling

Жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@gerardsamuel6769

Жыл бұрын

I actually never took that in

Booker couldn’t WAIT to drop his thoughts on this

@RealityOfItIs

Жыл бұрын

You can tell, look at the body language and eyes☺️

@childeharold3550

Жыл бұрын

Yup you could tell.

Why does this dude have a background like he's in a TV studio 🤣

@Tacsmoker

Жыл бұрын

hes directing Raw live lol

MJF and Punk are the two most compelling guys on the roster and it's not even close. Also they are by far the best at booking themselves and their feuds because they understand wrestling. If they get special treatment it's because THEY EARNED IT

@thatblindtekkenwarrior1177

Жыл бұрын

You are not wrong. But then the same could be said about Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan. You could say it about Stone cold Steve Austin. It's weird how some of the most compelling characters. Are also some of the most political backstage. I'm not trying to say whether this is a good thing or a bad thing. I'm just pointing out the stars that rise the highest, are often attached to people who know exactly what they want, and don't let other people stop them from getting it. Even if that does mean hurting some feelings.

@indiesongwriter5474

Жыл бұрын

@@thatblindtekkenwarrior1177 yeah but the difference is that all those guys just jockeyed to win whereas MJF and Punk just went matches that are booked well that make everyone look good, but a lot of modern wrestlers are idiots about that

@indiesongwriter5474

Жыл бұрын

So when Punk is presumably telling Hangman to slow it down and sell more and he is saying "no" Hangman is being a dumbass. And he's not respecting a guy with more knowledge. And Punk does know better and beyond being a bigger star, he should be listened to. He'll, Punk and MJF could book the show and it would be much better

@Stuart267

Жыл бұрын

@@indiesongwriter5474 Punk is an ego maniac though, he is the reason Cabana no longer has a career in AEW, he was making progress their & it grinded to a halt, the irony is Punk used to rally against wrestlers using their backstage stroke to get their way & what has he done himself? Booked himself too the position he wins the title with very little build up, if anyone thinks Colt wanted to go to ROH they are delusional, that would be like going from Raw to NxT willingly

@indiesongwriter5474

Жыл бұрын

@@Stuart267 Punk is egotistical and whether he is more of a bad or good person, I don't know. You might be right, you may be wrong. I will say that Colt isn't talented enough to be a major guy, probably belongs in the undercard. That's not personal, that's just business

It was interesting bottom line that's the most important thing in wrestling

just speculation but what IF in his contract TK agreed to let Cabana go. then when it was gonna happen Page and Co, freaked out and TK caved in and signed him to ROH which is probably his sticking point with the disrespect

@philwill0123

Жыл бұрын

I speculated whether this was a source of issues if cabana being forced out and the evps and page stopping cabana being kicked out to please Punk.

The smartest man in that company is Cody Rhodes. This is part of the reason why he got the fuck out.

@mackdaddy2153

Жыл бұрын

No he wasn’t Cody Rhodes was trying to book himself like slapnuts aka Jeff garret please stop 🙄

@pleaseshutup7053

Жыл бұрын

Cody left over money he wants cm punk Jericho type money

What happened to the freaking video it blinked out when I was looking at it

2.O is GREAT , imo its 1 of the best shows there is

It's a Work!

Punk doesn’t speak to his parents or siblings. Now he doesn’t speak to Colt Cabana. He made the WWE, a company that made him a 2x money in the bank winner, 5 time world champion, the longest WWE championship reign since Hulk Hogan, a Wrestlemania match with Undertaker, a dvd about his life, the place where he met his wife & the place that made him a multi millionaire sound like he was pouring cement 14 hours a day for minimum wage. He left, then he came back. The fact that he is with a completely different company right now, and it’s only been a year and the problems are starting already just goes to show you what he is. This dude is about himself and his money and his status. He doesn’t give a crap about the business, or anybody but himself. I was excited to see him back, now I just wish he would go all away already.

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

So you think Page was right to say that he was a img AEW from the top baby face?

@xenobreakinskul9532

Жыл бұрын

He didn't main event a single PPV while he was the WWE Champion. His match with Taker wasn't the main event despite a year of him putting on great matches, Cena and Rock were... again. He got a Z pak from the WWE doctor while wrestling with a staph infection and the doctor refused to diagnose it and treat it. During his last days in WWE, he was concussed but the company was more worried about him going out there and performing rather than his health. Lastly he was fired on his wedding day. Also, the problems in AEW didn't start with Punk. MJF had his problems backstage, Cody has his issues, the Big Swole controversy (even though she was the one who started the problem). You're refusing to see the full picture and if you're ready to completely turn your back on him after ONE incident that no one knows the full details about, then you were never really a fan to begin with.

everything is a work

Looks like Mr. Gilmore was either trying to stir things up or really doesn't like Punk. 1- Very conveniently didn't mention at all part of those "reports" that it was all actually started by Page months ago and Punk was just giving him the "receipt". 2- To "prove" Punk's so called bad behavior at backstage, he brings up Summer of Punk storyline from WWE like a total mark as if everything said on TV during that storyline was real. I agree on one thing, it's NEVER good to go into the business by yourself and Punk could've been the bigger man there and sorted things out backstage rather than getting back to Page on national TV like Page did to him but we don't know how much tension is/was between them and if there was any talk backstage.

I'm wondering if Punk is publically signaling to Hangman saying not to fall back into the low card with The Dark Order. I may just be getting worked.

Hello to Booker T I have always liked your work,nuff said I have NEVER EVER been a cm punk fan and at this point in time NEVER WILL. if he left today ( a good thing ) or tomorrow or whatever he won't be missed

Just like the movie industry wrestling have its ups and downs , especially with wrestling stars , fans love movie actors but they don’t know their true character or the inside scoops in Hollywood , same as in wrestling , punk have lot of fans but they don’t know the insights . I got a chance to meet him , I tried to introduce myself to him just like any worker , he didn’t say anything and he walked away . That tells his character . And it’s wrestling , haters are gonna be everywhere . It doesn’t matter it’s AEW or Indy promotions . Most of the workers now these days don’t say anything out of fear for the opportunity . The moment I saw Tk smoking with the boys in the back , I knew this is going to be another titanic .

I think the fact that Hangman did an interview and said he doesn’t need to take advice from the veterans and legends in AEW like JR, Mark Henry, Paul White, and others made Punk finally say, “Okay I’m done with this dude”.. Punk said in his promo, “Here’s some ADVICE that I suggest you take.. the apology needs to be as public and as loud as the disrespect”.. it wasn’t just about Hangman’s shoot promo. It was also about Hangman’s disregard of the experienced minds he works with.

I think that the Punk/Mox unification match being moved up to Dynamite is telling. If Mox wins, then it says Khan is on the side of Jobman Adam Page and Punk won’t be around much longer. If Punk wins, it’s Punks show. Period.

@visiousbrute

Жыл бұрын

Like that's a bad thing.

@anthonyrousseau8050

Жыл бұрын

I smell an impending DQ finish...

@adrianostafford8240

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyrousseau8050 Laaaayyyyyyzyyyyy booking...

That was a punk move of CM

BG needs a better green screen.

Has Tony disciplined anyone yet? If any was needed

@pleaseshutup7053

Жыл бұрын

Just max caster

@RealityOfItIs

Жыл бұрын

Not Punk.

@TheBeatdownBros

Жыл бұрын

@@pleaseshutup7053 was that for the lyrics a while back

I can really see Booker T telling someone to get their stuff and get the hell on for not thinking about the show and doing their own thing..lol

I disagree with Booker. Hangman went off script to shit on punk for Cabana almost being fired and then moved to ROH. That's real life heat and I doubt CM Punk exclusively asked for this but probably didn't want the man who threw him under the fkn bus in the middle of a lawsuit to benefit from the exposure of coming out with hangman and backing him up during the hangman punk feud. Then hangman says this in the middle of a face to face promo and goes off script making not only the promo not make sense but making CM Punks next lines have to be ad-libbed or making him look confused in the middle of the ring on live TV. So I completely agree with Punks receipt. He didn't make the show worse by saying it, the promo still made sense and was well delivered unlike hangman's, and one way or another made him look like a chump or not if they ever have a match again people will be very invested. You don't talk about real life personal issues that do not involve you unless it's authorized and discussed with the boss and the other wrestler. Sammy Guevara called Eddie a Fat piece of shit without clearing it with him first and got smacked in the face, imagine how touchy a subject of best friends falling out after a lawsuit must be and on top of that you're going off script and potentially trying to embarrass punk if he was any lesser on the mic. And I say this with the utmost disrespect to hangman I think he's been Uber shit for all of his AEW run, Punk didn't need a feud with hangman, punk is gonna sell out arenas regardless, it was fckin Adam Page the one that desperately needed this feud against punk to be recognized as a star and he fumbled every step of that way. Hangman should have been fired but he wasn't because he's best friends with 3 of the 4 bosses. He wasn't gonna make it big anywhere else, WWE probably would have slapped one IC title on him before repackaging him like 5 times and dropping him into the 24/7 title picture with R truth.

@harvardsmithdeangelo6905

Жыл бұрын

See Em Dump doesn't deserve any respect, he hasn't moved the needle in any direction but down

@diamante4life01

Жыл бұрын

@@harvardsmithdeangelo6905 the highest rated segments in all 3 years of AEW are CM punk segments... that's literally what moving the needle means. If the viewership has gone down it isn't because of him, it's because for the better part of the last year most top wrestlers in the promotion were injured leaving the show In the hands of the B team with a huge D- of a champion in Adam Page... the elite have been pretty un-elite, more like average since Cody left

@harvardsmithdeangelo6905

Жыл бұрын

@@diamante4life01 cope

CM Punk and MJF, masters of the work shoot.

Tony Khan's main problem is that he wants to have AEW be able to reach WWE's business success while running it like a glamorized indy promotion. You can't become a behemoth like WWE if you cater to the smark crowd. You have to make concessions and pander to a lower common denominator. Khan has to choose a direction. Either be satisfied running a clubhouse for your friends or do business like the corporations. CM Punk, Adam Page, doesn't matter who is right. None of this would have happened if Tony Khan was more a business person than a mark.

@TheInstantClassic86

Жыл бұрын

His main problem is that he’s a fucking mark and that’s hurting how he’s running a businessz

@prestonhayward4547

Жыл бұрын

The matches ,the performance, won't be what brings down this company ultimately. The fact that Tony is a clown, and a mark is what will bring down the company.. He wanted everybody to like him more than McMahon, and because he was more concerned about that, these are the dynamics of his company now. Until he actually becomes a real man, and stops being a fan boy, and a bootloader, until he stops behaving that way, the company won't change for the better.

I have watched AEW before it became a promotion. And despite its quality matches that it constantly put on, I have noticed some struggles from the company. And it falls solely on Tony Khan. He's still green as a CEO, at some point in time he needs to get control of his company, and stop compromising his company for ratings. That's how he lost Cody Rhodes to WWE. I hope he doesn't lose MJF or Adam Page.

@deon3133

Жыл бұрын

Who is Adam page. They will survive without him. This not Tony khan first business.

@Marcus-xu7hn

Жыл бұрын

@@deon3133 Hell no. Trade in Page for CM Punk? That makes no sense. If anything they should have Mox beat punk and scrap him.

@billparsonson7259

Жыл бұрын

You make some good points, but you blatantly either lied about Cody or you dont know the facts. The facts are, AEW could have chose to roll Cody's contract over for another year and he had no choice, but Khan CHOSE to let Cody's deal expire. So, yeah...

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Tony really needs an experienced booker like Gado or someone like that to help him out with booking stuff.Because I am still scratching my head over the decision to putting Punk vs Mox on TV it has to be something huge to replace a champ vs champ match.Also AEW need more character development and tell people who these guys are.Bryan alvarez perfectly described AEW last week he said AEW feels like "the cool kids club"aka the super hardcore fans that watch everything so Tony thinks everyone knows so that is why he doesn't do video packages to introduce people but most of the time it really doesn't work and the ratings patterns do reflect that

@smokemonster4744

Жыл бұрын

Lmao how can you watch AEW before it was a promotion lol its only existed as a promotion lol

Booker is correct. All these issues and rumors stem from TK allowing the inmates to run the asylum. He must take control and hire an experienced team to help him, the whole thing with active wrestlers being your EVPs never sat well with me either....

@NL-fg6it

Жыл бұрын

Especially the EVPs they chose.

@asoncalledvoonch2210

Жыл бұрын

TK needs to stop being a friend and be the boss. But it won't happen because the wrestlers don't respect him. The AEW wrestlers look at Tony the same way wcw wrestlers viewed Eric Bischoff back in the late 90's. A giant ATM to take money from then not listen to anything else

@pistolpete8231

Жыл бұрын

It's called WCW 2.0

I’m much more confident in a HHH led WWE than I am in anything AEW does.

Booker I Love & Respect you, But Didn't you Whoop Dave Batista for talk8ng Crazy about Smackdown? Sometimes when someone insults you, You have to check them back.

The problem with AEW is that punk is getting backlash for literally doing the same thing that the idiot bucks and omega do all the time without retribution

@Marcelg13

Жыл бұрын

When did the idiot bucks and omega do the things Punk did? Punk is butthurt because of a promo so he went in to business for himself and shit on the business.

@dante666jt

Жыл бұрын

LoL 🤣

Booker T brings up valid points.

Hopefully this is a work and CM Punk keeps baiting people for the next year. You say CM Punk bad and oh boy does the internet hop up. Who know whats what

As much as I like Punk, I am now starting to see just how much of a pain in the ass DIVA that CM Punk is. I'm starting to see why Triple H was fed up with his ass

@emiliodominguez9045

Жыл бұрын

Exactly triple H at least admitted he was a selfish prick but CM punk backs himself into a corner were is always right and even if you say one small thing he gets upset asf and goes on a rant dude is worse then a addict with mode swings frfr

Hangman should have went down there anyway. Should have said that it was real brave of Punk to call him out while on the toilet and now that he is not all bound up, it time for that match.

Thanks Booker

Let's break this down.. (and this is coming from someone who is not a CM Punk fan).. What did CM Punk say wrong in his shoot? For them to say that he was only in it for himself and doesn't care about the locker room is total bs.. The dude came in and had multiple matches with lower card talent and made them look good. Gave them more in a match than they would have ever thought they would get. 2 - He was attacked first. Just because someone didn't fit into your little video game gymnastics routine matches (talking about the Bucks, Kenny and Page), doesn't mean he's against your locker room. 3- When Punk said Hangman Page went out and said he doesn't listen to anybody even though they have Jerry Lynn, William Regal, Mark Henry, Jim Ross etc in the locker room, WHAT DID HE SAY THAT WASN'T TRUE THERE? Prime example of this: AEW has the greatest announcer/storyteller in the HISTORY of pro wrestling and when Page, the Bucks, and Omega go out there and do their little gymnastic spotfests, Jim Ross can't even tell a story no matter how hard he tries because they don't care about even making their own moves count or their own finishers thus they can't expand their audience beyond their little 900,000-1 mil people. THIS IS EXACTLY why you should listen to the veterans that were on top of the pro wrestling world across multiple decades. And to completely disrespect your veterans that you could learn something from, nope you're going to go "well, I really don't listen to anybody"... 4- What Tony Kahn should do is actually make these veterans in charge of matches and take away the EVP titles from the Bucks and Omega and put those titles on people like Jerry Lynn, Jim Ross, William Regal. Talent should never be in charge of anything. AEW would be way better off this way. Imagine if Booker T tried to teach one of his students how to do something and the completely disregarded him - One, they' probably get their a** whooped and would be sent home. This is what pro wresting needs again - It needs to be a closed off business again and not let in these little indy midgets do what they want and disrespect anyone they want.

@righteousrawb7225

Жыл бұрын

You are 1000% correct

@cedxced5240

Жыл бұрын

@D L Look, you're not wrong. I will be the first to say that I never liked Punk from the time he thought he was above an Undertaker match at WrestleMania.. He should have been standing up and saying "Thank you Mr. Undertaker for letting me breathe in the same room as you". Now, you can't deny that when Punk came in, he was working with lower card talent and making them look good. He was kind of doing what Bret Hart did with the 1-2-3-Kid. With that said, the Bucks, Page and Kenny have absolutely no respect towards the business and it's evident in their matches that the don't listen to veterans one bit. They actually make their moves not matter at all, and I KNOW this is not something Jerry Lynn, Regal, Ross, Malenko would condone. Shawn Michaels threw one superkick in a match and made it count.. They throw 15 in a match and not make them count for squat. Jim Ross has been on record as saying that talent think they know better and don't listen to veterans at all. THE ONLY one that you could say truly listens to veterans is Darby Allin. They even asked Darby what he thought of JR's comments and as a true student of the game, he said he loves JR and completely agrees with him. Now, does Darby Allin do some crazy stuff? Indeed he does. But what;s the mains difference in Darby Allin's game and the Elite? Darby actually SELLS and makes his moves COUNT. Meanwhile, the Elite and Page think they're smarter and don't need to listen to the vets and it is absolutely evident in their matches. Instead of maximizing their minutes, they're hitting 3 piledrivers in a row and their opponents are kicking out at 1 and a half.. So basically they're taking a highly dangerous move such as a piledriver and completely telling the audience "this is not dangerous at all, and we're having fun out here".. None of these guys care about the business one bit, if they did, they wouldn't be making a mockery out of it every time they go in that ring and do their little catch gymnastics.

I think it's a storyline

Punk also digs at Eddie Kingston for whatever reason during that promo, which makes no sense except to stoke his ego. I know many people are enamored with him, but stories about his attitude go back to his original ROH run, and now that he is working for someone that is a mark and not a strong leader, he is going to run amuck. The irony is that people mark out the song "Cult of Personality" and do not understand the irony of it when it relates to Punk.

@Jhoncena22

Жыл бұрын

Eddie and punk feuded and still don’t like each other, and Eddie is in the BCC with Moxley. That’s not the same as bringing up Page who had literally zero connection to both people in the feud

@JuliusC1973

Жыл бұрын

You do recall the rivalry and promos that CM Punk and Eddie Kingston had earlier in the year? The dislike between the two goes back all the way to the early 2000's early in their Professional Wrestling Careers. The animosity they have toward one another is genuine and stretches across several Professional Wrestling Promotions..

@rl318

Жыл бұрын

@@JuliusC1973 So, like almost everything else that comes out of CM Punk's mouth and a lot of AEW's booking, they bring up things that have nothing to do with what they are currently trying to sell just to get a rise out of die-hard fans. What was with the name-dropping of Kofi Kingston and John Cena then? People can try to dress this up however they want, but it came across as petty and the guy doing his own thing just because he feels like he can.

@rl318

Жыл бұрын

@@Jhoncena22 Eddie Kingston is the BCC. Since when? Just because they threw all those people together for that cage match does not make this connection in any way. Kingston was just in that horrible feud with Jericho, so he has had nothing to do with this aside from he is friends with Moxley, and he had a thing with Punk. Kingston does not like Danielson either. Should they have brought that up too?

@Jhoncena22

Жыл бұрын

@@rl318 probably should have

Just look at the ratings they are trash with or without him. If stone cold, John Cena, the rock, Lesnar, and roman reigns music hit in aew they would bring the world down and aew would sky rocket. Cm punk had what 2 weeks and the rating went right back in the dump

Right?.....

I wonder has Booker ever put out his workout regimen...he was and still is jacked af

@RealityOfWrestling

Жыл бұрын

🤔

@RealityOfItIs

Жыл бұрын

He's leaner now, not neccesarily jacked. He has muscle mass still, but it looks like he puts in the time to keep his body conditioned and in shape.

I hope it's a work, but even if parts of it is legitimate. I think they have interest and possibly money to be made. Just be professional and safe in the ring. Some of what is being reported, to me sounds like he is acting the same way he was treated in WWE. I don't think he becomes HHH.

There is nothing there that can't be fixed, but TK has to make big decisions. 1) You pay MJF if you want to keep him. 2) you take the title away from CM Punk because you can't let anyone do business for himself. This must have consequences.

@douggambill5826

Жыл бұрын

So Page doesn't get the title either because you can't let anyone do business for himself.

@DannieRay23

Жыл бұрын

2) You fire Adam Page and the rest of the trampoline cowboys that add nothing to the company.

@niccomakk

Жыл бұрын

But when is enough enough when it comes to how much you have to pay him?!?!

Punk has changed AEW. Punk & MJF angle gave park full control imo because they stalled their best asset. What actually needs to be discussed is why they want to go backwards. Do these presidents want what is best for the company? To summarize my point, once they buried wardlow & lost mjf. They gave the so called ego man the best tag team in wrestling. This will go crazy if both side keep telling how they feel.

@EffigyOfAdam

Жыл бұрын

This is all in English but impossible to read

Maybe it’s a storyline where CM Punk is playing 90s era Shawn Michaels…… maybe MJF comes back as the Bret Hart figure?

EVERYTHING IN WRESTLING IS A WORK

Brad the green screen looks weird

@RealityOfWrestling

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t in my home studio - had to do what I could. - BG

All friends wrestling getting exposed by the voice of the voiceless I fking love it thats why everyone loved CM punk in WWE he doesnt bullshit just speaks straight up truth

Everything is wrestling is a work

Can’t believe someone really had a nerve to talk about Hangman’s promo,in comparison. Just a stupid point to even bring up

sounds like Page went into business for himself 1st.. why is no one talking about this.

It is too early in AEW's life cycle to be dealing with this much drama.

CM ME ….. Should be his new name, Kinda make you appreciate Jericho even more

This is wild... After the scrum last night, it seems like Punk has a point--but is putting people on blast when he didn't have to. If a low key, stand up dude like Booker T is saying this... I can dig it suckas!

Man when Vince said… man maybe aew can sign some more of the released talent he knew exactly what was going to happen

I think Cody saw this coming

If this is a work then AEW has ruined Moxley momentum by taking all the attention to Hangman and Punk just like they did to Wardlow after beating MJF, they move all the attention to MJF after the promo and Wardlow has lost a lot of mommentum

@michaelrivera8360

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this a problem with AEW it seems they don't know how to follow momentum up Wardlow felt like he was about to become Batista and the MJF stuff completely killed his momentum.Supposey according to Fightful part of the reason Cm Punk was mad because supposedly Moxley was winning and was getting time off Punk and Phill being Phill was mad.

@allforgreatness9883

Жыл бұрын

Tony needs to step down as booker n things and just be the owner because the shows have been bad.

@misters4022

Жыл бұрын

stop it. moxley 1st 2x champion how could hangman take away attention from the great jon moxley, smh lol

@mackdaddy2153

Жыл бұрын

@@misters4022 lol honestly it’s so hard not to laugh at these dumb ass takes… don’t you just love it when wrestling fans act like they have a clue

@RealityOfItIs

Жыл бұрын

The MJF angle is definitely a work, him being off television is to make it all look real. The Punk and Page angle is most likely a well rehearsed elaborate work because CM Punk was punched out and didn't defend himself?..NOPE! All of it is in an effort to pick up their ratings because since triple H his bestie and his wife have taken over WWE the ratings continues to go up significantly while AEW has become rather redundant.

Don't forget Page went into business for himself live on the ppv.

Booker T plush