Book 15 Changed My Mind on Dragon Evolution .... (Wings of Fire Theory)

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  • @OliveAnimates12
    @OliveAnimates122 жыл бұрын

    SPOILERS!!!!!!!! The scorching in the book was definitely a surprise. I’m really happy it was included though Luna was a good protagonist and I did know she was so into tapestries lol.

  • @ashleypisarts

    @ashleypisarts

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!! We got backstory on the Othermind and the dragons that lived before the tribes were created. Super cool!

  • @GoofyAhhBoxy

    @GoofyAhhBoxy

    Жыл бұрын

    Some people think the scorching was unnecessary

  • @maelstromproductions6892
    @maelstromproductions68922 жыл бұрын

    I personally think that ancient dragons weren’t ever any specific tribes, and that they just had random traits from their parents, rather than having different tribes. It’s stated in the book that there weren’t tribes before the scorching (unless I misinterpreted it).

  • @Epic_747

    @Epic_747

    2 жыл бұрын

    exactly, or history repeats over and over, the tribes combine into all wings over time and humans get more advanced, it reaches a point where humans are the dominant species and then greed messes everything up causing a scorching and the loop repeats

  • @Vespabuggie

    @Vespabuggie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, prince Arctic was categorized as in the tribe of nightwings, so I think honestly tribes are more of an alliance rather than a dragon’s lineage/species

  • @fizzysodastar2001
    @fizzysodastar20012 жыл бұрын

    The seawing blue blood was odd, since EVERY point before then it was said to be red. I accept hivewing blood being green though.

  • @alz1268

    @alz1268

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it was odd. It probably was just a mistake though, like they said

  • @fizzysodastar2001

    @fizzysodastar2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alz1268 tbh it was probably burn out, Tui needs a break, and I hope she gets one

  • @sphis1327

    @sphis1327

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alz1268 Or maybe because Wasp had the breath of evil? It could have messed with her blood color?

  • @atlaskanik

    @atlaskanik

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hivewing blood being green was likely because of the Breath Of Evil. It’s possible that they usually have red blood, but it’s just a theory

  • @fizzysodastar2001

    @fizzysodastar2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@atlaskanik that's actually a really cool prospect!

  • @annagrace16
    @annagrace162 жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing that in this dragon planet, evolution and things like that go faster. It’s kind of weird, but cool as well.

  • @Birb_Boi
    @Birb_Boi2 жыл бұрын

    I had a theory/head canon about the Seawing blood: Tsunami was described to have red blood in the beginning of the series, I was thinking that perhaps that Royal family, since they are related to albatross, may rarely gain blue blood as they age, which would make sense since some time has past since we last saw Tsunami bleed. Or we may get it cleared up once the guide comes out, and I also head canon that royal hivewings have green blood! Since they relate so much to the beetlewings- wait I just realized the green blood might be from the breath of evil oooohhhhh-

  • @thegreatestJoeman

    @thegreatestJoeman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im pretty sure it was a mistake

  • @Birb_Boi

    @Birb_Boi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thegreatestJoeman Yeah, most likely tui swapped lynx for tsunami at the last moment.

  • @thegreatestJoeman

    @thegreatestJoeman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Birb_Boi probably, because she could'nt have frostbreath effect the battle

  • @amethystseawing9500

    @amethystseawing9500

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe the green blood was to show their similarities to insects, not the breath of evil. It's still cool either way though!

  • @makennarosswilson52

    @makennarosswilson52

    Жыл бұрын

    Okay, What are beetlewings?!

  • @Dragon-Draws
    @Dragon-Draws2 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video, and it does make sense, but to me wouldn’t it make more sense for Sandwings to share the same common ancestor as Nightwings and Skywings? The Sandwings don’t display a wide variety of colors, which only range from yellow to orange, and their colors are pretty close to those of Skywings, just paler. They also breath fire, which could happen because of separate inter-breeding with Flamewings (Like you suggested with Mudwings), but it would just make more sense to have that fire because of a common ancestor. It’s also stated that they can fly for long distances without stopping, sort of like Skywings. And since I know I’m talking a lot about the Skywings, let’s move to the Nightwings. Some Sandwings have markings on their wings, which could evolved from the same thing as the Nightwing’s star pattern. Some Sandwings also have darker scales along their body, such as Blister’s and Smolder’s diamonds on their necks. I definitely understand and like your reasoning for putting Sandwings with Rain, Leaf, and Beetlewings, but I personally feel like they are closely related to Sky and Night. I really hope this doesn’t come off as hateful, I’m just stating my own personal opinion on the subject of the probably impossible and fictional dragon evolution.

  • @Hebi_1412

    @Hebi_1412

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s a really good point

  • @lahlybird895

    @lahlybird895

    2 жыл бұрын

    They could be hybrid between the Nightwing and the hive wings which is where they get the fire breathing and the venomous tails then they adapted to the desert on their own

  • @Hebi_1412

    @Hebi_1412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lahlybird895 👍

  • @lahlybird895

    @lahlybird895

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hebi_1412 right, I mean beetlewings

  • @ShiftingStorms

    @ShiftingStorms

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, Dragon Draws

  • @tkpainter99
    @tkpainter992 жыл бұрын

    I love this video! The whole book was the best. I loved how we got to see how the other mind worked, and I really love lizard aswell. Lizard was the first dragon that cottonmouth found useful. Lizard had leafspeak and she had the ability to take dragons memories. So I would think she would always look at the dragons cottonmouth control memories and become very angry, because they weren’t as Aggresive and bloody as she wanted them to be. Personally, I think she was a good character and I was sad to see that she died.

  • @Ryan_The_Thing

    @Ryan_The_Thing

    2 жыл бұрын

    Freedom... :'(

  • @foxalotl
    @foxalotl2 жыл бұрын

    “Like baby’s first emo oc” amazing description

  • @frozen7900
    @frozen79002 жыл бұрын

    My idea for mudwings is that they may have formed through hybridization between sand wings/skywings and sea wings, this would explain mudwings ability to breath fire, imagine if the mud kingdom was once underwater and belonged to a group of seawings, but as the water dried up the population of these seawing group began to grow lower and lower, and they began to interbreed with other tribes, as the had lost a lot of genetic diversity in their group. Through hybridization, mudwings evolved and became specialized for the now swampy environment of the mud kingdom

  • @5rcane

    @5rcane

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea that's a pretty interesting idea!

  • @averypeck654
    @averypeck6542 жыл бұрын

    my theory: there were 2 tribes in the beginning one was the Daywings (the Daywings would be Lizard's tribe) and one was the Nightwings. The Nightwings were a kind tribe that kept to them selves and there scrolls (based of of Foeslayers line at the end of DoD Nightwings were always scholars) and differences were appreciated as they made for even more diverse views hybrids were heavily encouraged however the Daywing tribe was not so nice, once a queen came to power who was cruel, she saw all other vareninets as dangerous first the blue vareints escaped, they fled into the sea these became known as the Shorewings and they are the ancestors of Mudwings and Seawings. the Queen declared war on her own tribe forcing even dragonets to fight there were 2 sides to this war the Cloudwings and the Sunwings the Cloudwings lost and fled to the deserts and tundra they called themselves the Sprucewings and would later evolve into Ice and Sandwings meanwhile the Nightwing tribe had been getting more and more diverse with their inhabitants spanning both a dark spectrum and a light spectrum though the Nightwings hated to spilt in half they had too for their tribe was getting too big they split but some stayed with the opposite tribe for personal reasons most of the Forestwings that lived with Nightwings genetics were lost after a few generations since black scales is most likely a co-dominant trait but the Nightwings that stayed with the Forestwings spread their black scales causing another split this time the Leafwings broke off. Meanwhile the Nightwings evolved to use fire instead of corrosive acid this is where the "venom" in their teeth comes from. during this time the Sunwings were chasing out all dragons who were different from them but the queen went one step too far, threatening to kill her own daughter because she was orange and not red this caused an uprising and her daughter took the throne (the Skywings were the friendly tribe in Darkstalker because the queens dying wish was for the Skywings to atone for her mothers sins) when the Queen died she was left out to the sky on one day for each of the Daywing vareints first she was left out on a cloudy day, then a clear one, then a rainy one. The rest of the Skywings (as they were now know) adapted this tradition as a sign of respect for the queen but changed it to 7, one for each tribe. Meanwhile the Forestwings had conflict brewing. one of the Forestwings was unable to color change and many had asked to banish him but around half of them were on his side, there were many dragons who couldn't color change and the Rainwings never kicked them out why this one? the tribe split in two the Beetlewings and the Rainwings (were getting there slowly bear with me) the two sides went to war and the leafwings aided the Beettlewings but they still lost, the Rainwings kicked them out of Phyyria and they stumbled upon pantala as they were running away Hundreds of years later Clearsight arrives and the rest is history

  • @averypeck654

    @averypeck654

    2 жыл бұрын

    now my evidence dump In Darkstalker we read in a scroll that "every dragon knows the story of the scorching and the tribal shifts and alignments that followed this proves that Lizards mom was not just a hybrid but an actual separate tribe Tribal relationships and why i chose them Shorewings- (mudwings and seawings) both of the tribes are known for living near the coast and being able to hold their breath for a long time you brought up a good point about blood but earlier in TDP Tsunami's blood was red idk why the change but ill go with the original Spruce\Cloudwings (Ice and Sandwings)- these tribes live very close to each other and both have pale scales which are most likely a recessive trait so they must be fairly close relatives also when Qibli said "well probably get married one day" about Winter Cobra didn't seem repulsed as she would have if the tribes weren't already close Forestwings- we know that Beetlewings had corrosive acid like the rainwings and it was stated that "much like their closest Pyrrian relatives the leafwings breathe corrosive green acid

  • @averypeck654

    @averypeck654

    2 жыл бұрын

    Behavioral activities In the first Arc we see that skywings are normally grumpy this ties back in with the first queen who went on a rampage and that skywings supposed to be "the friendly tribe" but its not that easy to squash a dragons true nature and we can still see them being grumpy throughout negations over the shore villages. they also said "we don't tolerate dangerous differences in the sky kingdom" which again ties into my theory we can see that throughout all of the series the nightwings are the smart ones, this doesn't change at all in the theory the Rainwings were mentioned in Darkstalker to be dangerous but Nightwings were peaceful which is why it was easy for them to revert to peace instead of their warrior status in Darkstalker (yes I'm referencing Darkstalker a lot it has good information about tribal shifts and alliances)

  • @c0zy.dragonz
    @c0zy.dragonz2 жыл бұрын

    im almost done with wof 13 and haven't read wof 15 but i couldn't resist skipping your content. Keep going!

  • @fennecishere
    @fennecishere2 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite things to do it to theorize wof dragon evolution! I love this video, though I have to disagree My first idea for dragon evolution was inspired by that one discovery channel dragon mocumentary, the idea of hydrogen being the secret to dragon flight and fire. Hydrogen is lighter than air and also flammable. I believe all dragon tribes have hydrogen to help them fly, but some also use it for fire. Now I believe Icewings are more related to fire breathing tribes than it seems because of this. Their frost breath could very well be frozen hydrogen, although the process to get it to freeze is a mystery. Frost breath could also be frozen carbon dioxide, or dry ice, which would be a lot easier to freeze, although they would need to evolve to use carbon dioxide instead of just repurpose hydrogen. Frost breath may not be frozen hydrogen though, just really cold hydrogen that freezes what it touch but isn't frozen itself. So basically, icewings repopused their fire into frostbreath. Then I realized some dragon tribes are plantigrade while others are digitagrade. Seawings, Mudwings, and Leafwings are all plantigrade. Nightwings and Silkwings are almost plantigrade, but their toe is just off the ground, and then every other tribe is full digitagrade. So I thought maybe the digitagrades and the plantigrades are the farthest related, but then it's canonical that Hivewings and Silkwings are closely related. So convergant evolution is responsible for Silkwings almost being plantigrade and will probably end up being fully plantigrade. It's not the other way around because most dragons are digitagrade. So this got me thinking. Mudwings have to be warm enough to breath fire and can also hold their breath for an hour, so I think they're actually in the process of being able to repurpose hydrogen for fire and are convergently evolving to do so, not having an ancestor who could. They're probably closest related to Seawings, like you said. Both are Plantigrade, both are good swimmers, their horns curve in a similar way, and honestly look pretty similar body type wise. Then theres the leafwings, which are also fully plantigrade. I think they also just convergantly evolved to be plantigrade, like Silkwings are. They definitely are closest related to Rainwings. Their horns curve in similar ways, they both have that bit of skin on the other side of their wings, they both are curvy, and they both live in similar enviroments. So you're also right there. Then Icewings. I think their closest relative is actually, ironically enough, Sandwings. They surprisingly have a lot of similarities, namely their scales. Icewing and Sandwing scales are actually really similar. They both have rather spikey scale types. Their horns are also pretty similar, being more straight than curvy. They both have tail weapons, Sandwings having their stinger and Icewings having their spikes. Their ancestor could have had a spikey tail, fewer than icewings, that Sandwings repurposed into their barb. Sandwings most definitely convergantly evolved venom with Rainwings, as their venom works completely different and are in completely different places in the body. Nightwings are tricky. They're almost plantigrade and they have straight horns. I think, after looking at them for a bit, their closest relatives are both Sandwings and Skywings. Weird, I know. But let me explain. So, Their scale type is honestly a combination of the two. They have those weird blocky scales like Skywings with the smaller circular scales. They also have the smooth underbelly like Sandwings and their beak looks like a more pronounced version of a sandwing. Their horns are also straight like Sandwings. So I believe that means their ancestors are actually hybrids of Sands and Skys. Think about it. The old Nightwing kingdom is shown to be mountainous, so I think Skywings (or their ancestors) lived there and interbred with Sandwing ancestors. Their offspring were more adapt at living in this area. It was probably arid, like a desert, but mountainous. Over time the offspring started developing features unique to them and eventually evolved into Nightwings. So, kinda like you said, Nightwings and Skywings being related. I also think that Nightwings during Darkstalker time are more digitagrade So then Skywings themselves. Skywings look most like Rainwings, that's obvious. Their spikes are the same, their body shape is the same, their scale type is pretty much the same, their wings are actually pretty similar, their tails are both pretty long. It's pretty obvious Rainwings and Skywings have a pretty recent common ancestor. Then Hivewings and Silkwings. For simplicity I'll be using Beetlewings. Something I noticed is that ALL Pantalan dragons have REALLY curvy horns, but we know that Leafwings are actually that closely related to Beetlewings. So, something about Pantala pressures the evolution of curly horns, or for some reason curly horns are just really attractive to Pantalan dragons. The most unique thing about Beetlewings is their four wings, so wing shape will be kind of hard to analyze. I believe Beetlewings split off first, evolving four wings. So they share a common ancestor with all dragon tribes, but aren't closest related to any of them. I believe that Beetlewings were digitagrade, like Hivewings, and Silkwings are evolving to be plantigrade (the explanation for this is simple, walking on webs is easier plantigrade) So I believe that covers all tribes. Now for FoH explanation: Hybrids were more common. That's about it. After the scorching maybe there was a rumor that Humans sought out hybrid eggs specifically because I think they just coincidentally took hybrid eggs. Because of this rumor, hybrids became less and less common and they became more and more like the dragons we see now. This helps with how fast they evolved Also I have an explanation for hybrids. Realistically, they would be too distantly related to create offspring, or at the very least fertile offspring. I'm pulling out the animus card on this. An ancient animus probably fell in love with a dragon from another tribe and was heartbroken they couldn't create offspring. They probably cast a spell that went something like "I enchant this rock so when I drop it, every dragon will be able to produce viable offspring, no matter the tribe, for the rest of time". Idk, just a thought. Like you, this is all speculation.

  • @fennecishere

    @fennecishere

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nousefollowingtooanymore I really like your speculation! It makes a lot of sense! Although there is the possibility of using animus magic to explain their blue blood. Maybe some young animus icewing was just like "red blood is boring. Icewings should have blue blood instead!" or something and it just kind of stuck. Although I really love how you dove into the reason why blood is red! For frostbreath I get what you're saying about it and it makes sense! Since Icewings were one of the first tribes to have animus magic they probably used it to adapt to the cold of their enviroment and used it to turn their fire into frostbreath as they no longer needed it to keep warm For the six limbs (and eight for hivewings and silkwings) I think it is possible to develop more limbs with a mutation that causes extra limbs. But this would be very, very rare. This could again be explained with animus magic, but I don't want to overuse animus magic as an explanation. Maybe dragons carry a limb duplication gene that overtime, became more specialized? It's really hard to say if it's even possible as it's never happened on our earth.

  • @BlackRaven-RedFox

    @BlackRaven-RedFox

    2 жыл бұрын

    We had very similar points in our comments.

  • @qibli2154
    @qibli21542 жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy you made this video I have been waiting for it since book 15 came out.

  • @LeafeonTheCat
    @LeafeonTheCat2 жыл бұрын

    4rcane, I love your videos. Every time you upload, it puts a smile on my face. Thanks for making videos!

  • @lillyc5116
    @lillyc51162 жыл бұрын

    This was a very good video! I thoroughly enjoyed it, and there are several points I loved or didn't even think about. I love how you designed and thought about how each "Proto tribe" moved around and eventually became the tribes that they are today, it is also nice to see people imagining what they could look like. Another thing I didn't even think about was that a solarflare was partly responsible for the scorching. That would make a lot of sense- the humans lose most of their technology, and thus have to use more rudimentary technology to just get by. I kind of even headcannon that the humans brought most of the flora and fauna that we see in the books, i.e cows, pineapples etc. But there is still some native flora/fauna that survives to this day albeit rare. They may have even colonized the Dragon Planet at one point but just lost their control over thousands of years and the turning point of course being the scorching. Anyways, just some thoughts I had lol. Amazing video as always, keep it up!

  • @astroyamical
    @astroyamical2 жыл бұрын

    There is one extinct tribe: Beetle wings

  • @EmmyGacha149
    @EmmyGacha14910 ай бұрын

    omg flamewings and stormwings were actually one of my top fan tribes to add into the series cuz then we would have all 4 elements and cuz stormwings sounds like stormwinD from WoW

  • @inglorioushitler8798
    @inglorioushitler8798 Жыл бұрын

    7:12 for a second I though you said… Blue - sh*t

  • @wolfrosefrost5475
    @wolfrosefrost5475 Жыл бұрын

    Due to the existence of the Beetlewings my guess is that all dragons originated from a common ancestor that had 4 wings and an internal sack that eventually split off into the beetlewings with their venom sack and yellow/brown scales in the southern desert with a more yellow scales and another what I'm calling Sunwings; a dragon species that would live in the southern mountains, they have a more yellow orange scales and their wings are a fused 2 wing structure that would have and luminous scales that would that could absorb light and allow them to be luminous, along with this their sack would have warm form of venom that allow them to more easily keep warm at high altitudes. Eventually these two species primarily Sunwing's would travel to the rainforest in the east eventually becoming Rainwings. Some of these Rainwings would make their way back to the southern mountain eventually hybridizing with the Sunwings into the Flamewings. Flamewings would have a very similar body structure but wouldn't quite be Skywings due to having key differences. These differences include having a warmer combustible venom, additionally they lack flamescales and their cold resistance. Back when the Sunwings were still a group would diverge to the northwester area of plantala that at this time would have mostly been plains and the ice wouldn't be so pronounced meaning that the Skywing mountains would be mora akin to islands at this time and the Mud kingdom would basically be underwater. Eventually these dragons would become the Moonwings with a small group of Sunwings living in the northern desert eventually becoming the Goldwings. The Goldwings are more sunwings that have taken a more yellow tint in the scales. The Moonwings would be a semi nocturnal species gaining strength from the moons with 2 different subspecies, under waxing moon they were born with sparkling white scale with power of the body known as Fullwings, when born under wanning moons they would be born with black starlight scales with power of the mind known as Newings, occasionally they would be born as eclipse twin where there would both be one Newing and one Fullwing. Eventually these two subspecies would diverge into the Starwings a beta species to Nightwings with the main difference lacking their fire, and the Frost wings a beta species to Icewings that would lack ice breath but would gain strength from the cold. Back with the Rainwings a divergence would happen when a group would travel into the norther water becoming Waterwings a beta version of Seawings that would spread across the norther shoreline of Phyrriah eventually hybridizing with the Flamewings to create the Mudwings and hybridizing with the Moonwings(primarily Fullwings) to creating Leafwings. Additionally due to the hybridization with the Frostwings could be the reason that animus magic appeared in the seawings. At least a few centuries before the scorching there would have to have been a convergence of Frostwings, Starwings, Flamewings, and Goldwings causing them to become the Icewings, Nightwings, Skywings, and Desertwings a beta version of the Sandwings that lack brown scales and their tail bard that they would have gained from temporary hybridization with the Beetlewings before they were force due to conflict off toward Plantala.

  • @HalaNixNyx
    @HalaNixNyx2 жыл бұрын

    not me watching this knowing about the spoilers lol, also amazing theory and art!

  • @floofyfloof720
    @floofyfloof7202 жыл бұрын

    My theory/headcanon is that in the far future tribes will slowly be abolished, turning into villages/small towns with a bunch of different dragons like sanctuary.

  • @Epic_747

    @Epic_747

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats a good point, its almost as if history repeats itself

  • @lightbringer_lol5876
    @lightbringer_lol58762 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work! This makes tons of sense, but I personally think that if (and maybe when) the Rainwings and Nightwings merge, they would be called something other than the Stormwings, because that gives me big Seawing vibes. great work, and keep the WOF vids coming!!

  • @yetismeatis9102

    @yetismeatis9102

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Mistwings?

  • @lightbringer_lol5876

    @lightbringer_lol5876

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yetismeatis9102 ooooo maybe.....

  • @Birb_Boi

    @Birb_Boi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps the ShadowWings- although that sounds a lot like NightWings. Idk it go’s with the fact that rainwing can change color I guess- Part of me doesn’t want them to merge tho- Same with the SilkWings and LeafWings

  • @GuapoTheKIeptocat

    @GuapoTheKIeptocat

    2 жыл бұрын

    I made a fantribe called VibeWings. They are pretty much the fusion of RainWings and NightWings. They are mostly black, but the insides of there wings, and some small scales are vibrant colors (this different for dragon to dragon)

  • @enderwalkgang

    @enderwalkgang

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yetismeatis9102 Yeah! I like that! a lot of mist occurs in the rainforest, so that makes sense, not to mention they could be phantom like, being able to disappear like ghosts and have spooky legends about them about their various powers from the Nightwing side of things.

  • @BlackRaven-RedFox
    @BlackRaven-RedFox2 жыл бұрын

    Yay I have been waiting for someone to do this! you asked for my thoughts I give you my thoughts. There are not any plot spoilers, but just so I don't get in trouble.... SPOILERS!^w^ I like your idea of only royalty having blue blood, that gives a little excuse/cover up if it was a mistake. I was making a mind map/ evolution map for the WOF tribes also. I didn't go way back like you did, I just worked with the five dragons that Tui gave us in the description of the scorching. Dragon 1 (freedom): (book's description) Leaf like wings, scales like the ones of a Hivewing or Skywing. Green and orange. what tribes came from this dragon type i thought would be, leafwing then later on Rainwings and Skywings since they have very similar body and scale types. Dragon 2: Double wings, orange and yellow. I thought that this might actually be a Beatlewing. Because of its description and having to match some sort of doublewinged dragon. Beatlewings -> Hive and silkwing Dragon 3: sandy color with black spots and a tail barb like a sandwings for this one I think is just a very old sandwing ancestor. so over time there might have been changes but this one had stayed basically constant. dragon 4: Very large dragon that is orange, rusty copper green, and is the only dragon to have the description of swinging its huge tail. This one i thought that it could lead to the seawing and mudwing, they both have some sort of water adaptation have it be gills or missive lungs. The Flames of hope book also give a short description of people taking water dragon eggs from the sea but still able to walk into the water and take them. so the eggs are like in the mud of shallow waters, or tidepools. maybe way back the nightwings might have had a common ancestor, b/c of their flat scales and boxy build. dragon 5: is a black dragon, with red flecks I always imagined the nightwings being a really old tribe. so like the sandwings they have only changed a little bit. I still am having a hard time matching up the icewings. But there was a description of humans in the tundra taking eggs. So there is another possibility that the icewing ancestor was like the ancestor of the night and sandwings, and the tribe was already separate. I like your idea of the icewings being a part of the sea and mudwing line though, the blue blood would make also of sense. And icewings can have hints of blue scales. I was also thinking that the ice, and sandwings might be all one line b/c they both have similar builds, and sandwings are known to have white scales as well, and there geography are close, and maybe way back the night wings were part of that, b/c of the horns, and soft underbelly. You asked, so I had to tell. I'm sorry that this is so long, but I had to get my thoughts all out. If there are any spelling errors...Im sorry. ^w^

  • @Swirl_of_StarFire
    @Swirl_of_StarFire2 жыл бұрын

    You named the hypothetical fusion of the Rainwing and Nightwing tribes Stormwings too? Cause I would also name them Stormwings

  • @Amethyst_the_rain_night
    @Amethyst_the_rain_night Жыл бұрын

    If leafwings sandwings silkwings and rainwings all came from one common ancestor with a long prehensile tail in rainwings kept the prehensile part of it of course they would all have long tails and for the sandwing a long-tail is good for longreach stabbing

  • @avataraang1906
    @avataraang1906 Жыл бұрын

    Wait what if Leafspeak was a form of animus magic? We know that some SandWings have animus magic but what if it came from their ancestors, the PoisonWings. That means that the LeafWings could have the genes for animus magic but instead of using it to make cursed objects or something, they adapted it to fit in their habitat, the rainforest/jungle

  • @JulesOrPyro
    @JulesOrPyro2 жыл бұрын

    [1:18] beetlewings: am I a joke to you?!

  • @JulesOrPyro

    @JulesOrPyro

    2 жыл бұрын

    note i have not read the 15th book yet

  • @GoofyAhhBoxy

    @GoofyAhhBoxy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JulesOrPyro you should read it. It’s not the best book and it’s confusing but you should read it.

  • @kokichiouma436
    @kokichiouma4362 жыл бұрын

    Canonically speaking, there is an extinct Tribe. Beetlewings.

  • @alz1268

    @alz1268

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well they arent really extinct, they just evolved into silk and hive wings over time

  • @enderwalkgang

    @enderwalkgang

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alz1268 not even evolved, it's morely likely they are just silk wings strait up. 1000 years isn't enough time for evolution to evolve an entire species. Only reason logically speaking hivewings look so different is because Inbreeding.

  • @lorddimplesock74
    @lorddimplesock742 жыл бұрын

    At first, finding out that stunami had blue blood really surprised me. But it really makes sense that maybe dragons that are part of the royal family have blue blood because of albatross. If it isint true then it’s a nice head cannon

  • @Epic_747

    @Epic_747

    2 жыл бұрын

    its most likely an error as tsunami has been said to have red blood before this, and changing blood colors wouldn't be possible under normal factors, changing from iron to copper based blood is a biological no no

  • @lorddimplesock74

    @lorddimplesock74

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Epic_747 oh, I guess so. It still would still be cool for seawings who are in the Royal blood line to have blue blood because of albatross. Thanks for the info tho

  • @thedodofarmer1butnotmaking167
    @thedodofarmer1butnotmaking1672 жыл бұрын

    The blue blood is a mistake. Im reading darkstalker for like , the 5th time or something, maybe even more , and they definetly have red blood.sory for spelling mistakes im in mobile.

  • @moonhowl1121
    @moonhowl11212 жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t it technically mean that if all tribes have the same ancestors that all tribes in existence share some animus blood, but it is more common in tribes that may need it more?

  • @General_Belu
    @General_Belu Жыл бұрын

    Does anybody know where to find a Pre-Scorching dragon base?

  • @mintkiity
    @mintkiity2 жыл бұрын

    I still haven’t read the 15th book, but looking forward to it!

  • @Birb_Boi

    @Birb_Boi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your going to be so confused 😂

  • @mintkiity

    @mintkiity

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Birb_Boi I’ve heard of the events and all- heard there is ALLWINGS. THEY EXISTED.

  • @atlasjays-
    @atlasjays-2 жыл бұрын

    Here me who hasent read flames of hope: but is on book 1: DANG IT I CANT WACTH THE VIDEO

  • @DOMyth
    @DOMyth3 ай бұрын

    anyone else think these videos are underated?

  • @loonatheverse
    @loonatheverse2 жыл бұрын

    Major character death happened btw (lizard)

  • @GoofyAhhBoxy

    @GoofyAhhBoxy

    Жыл бұрын

    Poor Freedom

  • @toedjosh4468
    @toedjosh4468 Жыл бұрын

    3:04 it’s been confirmed that albotross was not a hybrid

  • @pencilsharpenerwithgooglye7382
    @pencilsharpenerwithgooglye73822 жыл бұрын

    Beetlewings?

  • @starthr1ft
    @starthr1ft2 жыл бұрын

    ok so, Im angry at book 15 because it says that Tsunami has blue blood twice when shes attacked, however she has bled multiple times beforehand in the series and has had red blood. secondly, the most likely reason for sand, rain and leafwings for having long tails is, its convenient. for the sandwings they can hit their targets over longer distances rainwings have been even shown using their tairs to wrap around branches to increase mobility and its likely leafwings have it for the same reason as both tribes are meant to live in thick forests. also just a sidenote good job on Tui for giving silkwings long talons because before they go through metamorphosis they do need good grip on branches or silk when traveling it hasnt been said but i noticed it on both Blues and Lunas cover while im still on this topic of evolution i love how sandwings have super thick scales as well as them protruding outwards a bit to shake out any leftover sand that might have gotten stuck after sandstorms or hiding, as well as the thick scales to protect themselves i could probably say so much more about the uniqueness of every dragon tribe but this took long enough to type-

  • @princesshulia78
    @princesshulia782 жыл бұрын

    s e c o n d

  • @hollyforman9637
    @hollyforman96372 жыл бұрын

    I think that dragons pretty much just had babies when they had babies. They had baby dragons regardless of tribe, then after the Scorching, they started separating into tribes and kingdoms. As things got a little iffy on Pyrrha, three of the tribes moved to a different continent. I think genetics is one of those minor things that just started playing out crazily. Now 6,000 years later we have all our present tribes.

  • @NapaCat

    @NapaCat

    2 жыл бұрын

    Two of the tribes--hivewings and silkwings weren't distinct yet.

  • @thedodofarmer1butnotmaking167
    @thedodofarmer1butnotmaking1672 жыл бұрын

    I dont thi k there hrre old tribes and everything. I thinm that they wherejust a ton of types of dragons , and they where always different. The dragons would breed with whoever they find , meaning that they where always different , but after the scorching , they became tribes and stuff andbred in / out the traits they wanted

  • @thedodofarmer1butnotmaking167

    @thedodofarmer1butnotmaking167

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh , and also , the desert was smaller. Luna said that she couldnt see any desert in either direction in the mountains from the vision from befpre the scorching

  • @liliaorwhatever2027
    @liliaorwhatever20272 жыл бұрын

    Hello!

  • @bluethesilkwing1264
    @bluethesilkwing12642 жыл бұрын

    Isn't SeaWing blood red? For example: In Darkstalker, "Something clinked in the background, and Fathom turned, thinking he'd seen a flash of silver in the air, and then a line of RED sliced slowly, darkly, murderously across Queen Lagoon's throat like the widest smile in the world". I can't remeber any mentioning of it being blue.

  • @mothgirl0512

    @mothgirl0512

    2 жыл бұрын

    in book 15 it was mentioned being blue for some reason

  • @Nek0ru
    @Nek0ru2 жыл бұрын

    the whole blue blood thing with seawings to me donesn't make sence because seawings used to have red blood, now blue blood like ??????

  • @Ur_local_cryptid

    @Ur_local_cryptid

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it was probably a mistake, because icewings have blue blood

  • @Nek0ru

    @Nek0ru

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ur_local_cryptid I hope so

  • @MoonFlameStudios_Official
    @MoonFlameStudios_Official2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! I will give one critique: Slow down when talking! It was hard to understand you at times.

  • @AbhainnMcOirr
    @AbhainnMcOirr2 жыл бұрын

    Nobody mentions the mudwing ability to hold their breath! Maybe this is because of their ancestry with SeaWings?

  • @thatonespringboi5865
    @thatonespringboi58652 жыл бұрын

    What software do u use to draw?

  • @5rcane

    @5rcane

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clip studio paint

  • @thatonespringboi5865

    @thatonespringboi5865

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@5rcane oh okay, is it free!

  • @thatonespringboi5865

    @thatonespringboi5865

    2 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @inglorioushitler8798
    @inglorioushitler8798 Жыл бұрын

    Solar flare… The temporary increase in ionization of the daylight side of Earth's atmosphere, in particular the D layer of the ionosphere, can interfere with short-wave radio communications that rely on its level of ionization for skywave propagation. Skywave, or skip, refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted off of the ionized ionosphere. When ionization is higher than normal, radio waves get degraded or completely absorbed by losing energy from the more frequent collisions with free electrons - So no it would not completely wipe out technology… Also Pre Modern Global Warming?

  • @VibrantArsonist
    @VibrantArsonist2 жыл бұрын

    Is this a headcannon or cannon?

  • @5rcane

    @5rcane

    2 жыл бұрын

    Completely heacanon!

  • @lahlybird895
    @lahlybird8952 жыл бұрын

    I think the sandwich are related to The Hive wings

  • @Ur_local_cryptid

    @Ur_local_cryptid

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes my favourite tribe. *Sandwich*

  • @lahlybird895

    @lahlybird895

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ur_local_cryptid ... Damn

  • @enderwalkgang

    @enderwalkgang

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hivewings is the newest tribe, 1000 years old as most. Younger than dark stalker. Somehow. Unlikely.

  • @lahlybird895

    @lahlybird895

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@enderwalkgang I said 'related to' not 'descended from'

  • @sage81010
    @sage810102 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me.. or have the dragons 4rcane draws eat too many donuts?

  • @demonitty1687
    @demonitty16872 жыл бұрын

    SPOILER ABOUT A NEW CHARACTER I honestly think that Lizard is a older beetle wing mixed with leaf because of her looks and powers.

  • @georgebanana7300
    @georgebanana7300 Жыл бұрын

    Evolution is not that complicated. For example, this is evolution. Hopeful thing stays non-helpful thing goes away.

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