I'd rather be thrown to the sharks than have to look at Morgan

@scor66

27 күн бұрын

same here!

@robertscott8344

26 күн бұрын

She kidnaps little steffy in exchange for Stephanie making her miscarry for that drug induced medication.

@juliaschmidt6511

16 күн бұрын

Agree. You're so right about that.

@juliaschmidt6511

4 күн бұрын

Morgan is worse than any snake or shark!

*Morgan is a Lame Villain with a Lame Plan* The show wants Morgan to be the next great villainess after Sheila and Phyllis but she’s not as fun or clever as they were. In addition to not getting to see Morgan carry out her schemes, Morgan’s plan also isn’t very brilliant - it relies mostly on money and luck. She’s obviously a very successful designer since she can buy a house on the spot in Beverly Hills and pay a man to kidnap a child and fake her death (yet despite being rich, she whines all the time about how awful her life has been since her abortion!). And then consider the extraordinary luck she needed to pull off her plan. Somehow after going to NY and in less than a few days, she managed to fly to St Thomas, find out where Ridge and Taylor were staying, and convince and bribe a man at the resort to carry out a heinous capital crime? She was lucky he didn’t report her right away to the authorities, that neither Phoebe nor Katherine woke up while he was taking Steffy, that Steffy didn’t wake up screaming while she was in the storage locker, that no one _opened_ the storage locker. And how did this man transport a child that’s not his to LA? And if all that wasn’t inexplicable enough, now Morgan is going to raise the child in the same neighborhood as the parents, hope no one sees her, and Steffy’s just going along with it without crying for her parents? _This makes no sense!_ At least with Sheila, the baby was taken at birth so Lauren could be around Sheila’s baby and not suspect it was hers. Indeed unlike Morgan, neither Sheila nor Phyllis were rich so they had to rely instead on their own cleverness to pull off their schemes and they had to carry out those schemes themselves so we were more invested in them. Wouldn’t it have made more sense for _Katherine_ to be in on the scheme instead of this boat man? Morgan and Katherine could've become friends while Morgan was friends with Taylor and that way we’d get to see Morgan being clever as she slowly manipulates Katherine into being her spy and accomplice. Katherine would have complete access to the family and their plans, and her taking Steffy without a commotion would make sense since Steffy would be comfortable with her nanny. This would also further connect Morgan to both Sheila and Phyllis - Sheila with the “evil nanny” theme and Phyllis who often bullied her nanny Joni and made her an unwitting accomplice at times. I understand that Brad wanted to surprise the viewer with the reveal that Steffy was still alive and that Morgan plans to raise her as her child. But there was a way to achieve that and still let us see the scheme being carried out. We could’ve had scenes between Morgan and Katherine where we see her planning something, but we don’t know what it is, then an ominous reference to wanting Ridge and Taylor to feel the pain of losing a child, then we see Katherine on the boat saying Steffy has disappeared and the viewer wonders if she did the unthinkable. And then finally Katherine brings Steffy to Morgan and see what the ultimate plan was all along. For Morgan to be in the same lineage as Sheila and Phyllis she needed to be played by a dynamite actress, we needed to see her carrying out her schemes, and her schemes needed to actually be clever and make sense.

@sharonstewart4882

27 күн бұрын

Brilliant post Nick! I couldn't agree more. 👏👏👏 Y&R not only showed us how Sheila stole Lauren's baby in great detail but they also portrayed her as gentle and loving with Scottie and they didn't torture Lauren unnecessarily (Sheila didn't put chloroform on Scottie and she didn't make Lauren think her baby had been shark food!) LOVE your point that Katherine should've been the accomplice instead. That would make a lot more sense. They could've had her resent or envy Ridge and Taylor's lifestyle and Morgan could play on that.

@kpbv68307

27 күн бұрын

100%. I don’t think this reveal would have had any “surprise” value back then either. The problem with every part of the Morgan saga is that it relies on off-screen or retcon storytelling. The gift of a great villain is that we get to watch their schemes unfold and we wince because we sometimes enjoy watching their diabolical antics. That’s what made Shiela so menacing and enjoyable. Indeed, imagine if Katherine was to Morgan what Mike was to Sheila.

@memento-_mori

27 күн бұрын

Excellent points. The idea to use the nanny as an accomplice instead is smart.

@annieo6527

27 күн бұрын

I love this post! You are so right that the way for this storyline to make sense would have been for Katherine to be involved. And I agree that it's getting quite frustrating how all these important parts of the story take place off screen. The main problem, of course, is how _uncharismatic_ Morgan is as a villain. We don't even believe that she is doing all these things because we never see the "wheels turning" in her mind the way we did with Sheila. Instead we keep finding out about villainous acts and plots that we never saw her carry out, and that don't truly connect with the portrayal of the character. We never saw her write that e-maiI, or call Taylor to make her leave that message for Ridge, or fake the first pregnancy test. We saw very little of her with the snake. And now we didn't see her take any active part in what was supposedly her own scheme to fake Steffy's death. It's like she's completely passive on screen and then we are simply _told_ about all these elaborate schemes that she has supposedly been up to.

@TriniT21

27 күн бұрын

It actually would have made more sense for Katherine to be in on it. I'm surprised the boat captain who didn't know these girls from Adam, was able to determine the correct twin to take. Wouldn't it have been something if he couldn't tell which girl was which and in his haste nabbed the wrong twin? It also would have given Katherine some more dimension as opposed to just being a terrible nanny who was, literally, asleep on the job. So much so that an entire human was able to come in and chloroform a whole child under her care while she was in the same room. I hope they fire her when the truth comes out. And I totally agree with @AnnieO... Morgan's a lame villain who can't even get a job done herself. You think Sheila would leave MIKE to do the job? Sheila would never... She knows of you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

Why do these grown as s men let Morgan bully them when they have leverage over her?? First Clarke, now this sea captain. One call to the cops and they could both expose Morgan yet they're running scared from her. 🙄🙄

@brendanbressler9807

27 күн бұрын

Maybe they're afraid she'll cast a spell on them and turn them into a frog? 🤔😆

@NewYorkNick0607

27 күн бұрын

@@brendanbressler9807 Maybe they just don't want to spend more time in a scene with her since she's such an underwhelming actress and charisma vacuum.

@ShaneMcleod-zt7wy

27 күн бұрын

Jamaica men kidnap young Steffy

@TriniT21

27 күн бұрын

Right? He ran outta there without the money. Should have run straight to the police. Or, if he was smart, take a cue from Morgan boasting about the last man she left in a hospital, find Clarke and they BOTH work together to get Steffy away from Morgan (and get the police). Morgan has wayyy too many loose ends walking round town to be getting away with this.

@robertscott8344

26 күн бұрын

The sea captain supposed too be helping save lives from tragic risks and he collaborating a scheme for quick cash.

Okay, so I have a few questions. One, how did Captain Caribbean Snidely Whiplash know which twin was Steffy? They’re identical and were wearing the same outfit. Two, what would he have done if she wasn’t sleeping on the outside of the bed? Wouldn’t he have woken up Phoebe and Katherine when he leaned over to get Steffy? Three, how did *nobody* ever think to check the locker the whole time they were running around the boat? Little kids are so notorious for climbing into small spaces, appliances, etc that it stretches all credulity to think that neither parent or Katherine would check the locker. Well, maybe not Katherine. Amber, tearful: “Don’t you want to know where I just came from, Deacon?” Deacon, not even looking up: “Nah not really.” And thus the great love story begins 🙄. The scenes with Steffy and Y2K Miss Havisham were amusing because, although the twins playing Steffy and Phoebe don’t have a fraction of the charisma Little Eric does, she did some unintentionally funny things: Morgan, cooing: “Ooh, look at you, sweetie! Darling girl!” Steffy: *Gives her the most obvious side-eye a toddler can manage* Morgan: “You love that little lamb I bought you, don’t you?” Steffy: *Literally throws the lamb behind her* But the absolute best part was when Morgan started her Rime of the Ancient Mariner tale again about how everyone took her babies and was jealous of her (hah!) and done her wrong, and Steffy started humming. Even the kid is tired of hearing Morgan’s stories 😂.

@mara4450

27 күн бұрын

ITA. I wonder if it had been random or if Morgan really had wanted Steffy - and that it would work out so easily for Morgan's criminal helper. He not only succeeded in hiding that twin on the boat even when everyone had been running and searching for her, but he later had been able to smuggle her from the boat and back to the US. And at some time between that, he had been able to take the life jacket (Steffy still wore it when he hid her at that storage box), tore it up to look like a shark attack and to drop it into the ocean.

@kpbv68307

27 күн бұрын

Not Y2K Miss Havisham 😂 Also how dare you ask these perfectly logical questions to a storyline that defies logic 😅

@annieo6527

26 күн бұрын

Well, Little Eric is used to having new mommies and daddies all the time and just goes with the fIow. But obviously Steffy isn't used to this and reacts accordingly. 😂 I _loved_ how when Morgan started telling her entire life story to Steffy, Steffy just sat there nodding like a mini therapist who realizes there is no point in reasoning with this person.

@MiriamStigsdotter

26 күн бұрын

​@@mara4450Its ridiculous how he pulled it off...and how Morgan managed to find a captain in Saint Thomas with very short notice, wiling and taking the risk to kidnap a child...

Did CJ forget about little Eric? He hasn't even had a visit with him. Poor writing.

@juliaschmidt6511

16 күн бұрын

He doesn't want to see Amber who hurt him so much.

Follow your own heart and mind! Ridge talked her out of checking on the kids! Never let anyone talk you into anything!

@annlavine3576

27 күн бұрын

or out of something

Poor Tridge 😢 I only can imagine what they are going through.

Every time Morgan says that she was pushed off the balcony I just laughed some more 🤣🤣🤣

@juliaschmidt6511

14 күн бұрын

She truly believes her own sick fantasies.

Sorry if this makes me sound like a sap but I really don't like watching unnecessarily harrowing things happen to little kids (I'm still a mom! 😋). Getting kidnapped is one thing, but watching a stranger put chloroform on a kid and having her mom think she got torn apart by a shark is too much! I felt the same way when Bridget got shot, that it was unnecessarily traumatic when they could've just had her get pneumonia or something. I watch soaps for romance and rivalries, not this. 👎👎

@janagee3950

27 күн бұрын

Awful story

@jemekiahall5848

27 күн бұрын

Not to mention putting a child in a trunk with a lock on it! 😡

@babs4848

27 күн бұрын

You are right. That's not entertaining at all. Just like Carmen on the roof with little Eric, the child 's de ath during the birth. People that fall for no reason.. This show is really turning into a nightmare or a caricature of the father's show. And also it shows a lack of respect for the characters and viewers.

@TriniT21

27 күн бұрын

The shark idea was just awful. But as someone who is claustrophobic, I almost started hyper ventilating for Steffy being locked in a chest. 😵. Who does that to anyone...most of all a child??? What if the chloroform has unexpectedly worn off and she woke up in there? She would have felt like she was in a tomb

@johannad8029

26 күн бұрын

Yeah it was too dark and depressing. Brad let Taylor have it he would never put the SFTV Brooke through that!

Vile like Taylor hasn’t been through enough then you take her child smh

18:40 not Katherine once again letting another child get away from her. 🙄 Who are her references as a nanny ? Deacon is much more attentive than this girl. I see by now Taylor has had it with her "nanny" skills @Nick.. Katherine is really winning all the worst nanny awards these days

@NewYorkNick0607

27 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 Good catch! It's hilarious at this point how bad a nanny she is.

@annieo6527

26 күн бұрын

"I'm so sorry, I thought she was asleep" says Katherine for the _second_ time! 😂

@TriniT21

26 күн бұрын

@@annieo6527 last time she thought the missing child was with her parents... Even tho she saw said parents and they only had one child with them at the time...

@robertscott8344

26 күн бұрын

​@@TriniT21it's hard being parent full-time so a nanny can be less attentive for some reason too.

Morgan is such one sick Lady

Morgan speaking to Steffy as if she knows what an abortion is. Please...

Watching the captain flirting with Morgan wasn't a smart move knowing how psycho she can be

@MarinsCircuits

Ай бұрын

Vhh

@TriniT21

26 күн бұрын

Apparently he was not aware that she was a psycho, despite her offering him money to kidnap a child off a boat and make it so the parents think said child fell overboard and was d e a d. 😐

@joiisler8986

25 күн бұрын

Well, he was pretty Psycho Himself. Kidnapping a Child. js

@juliaschmidt6511

12 күн бұрын

My stomach is turning when I see him 🤢​@@joiisler8986

That scumbag who kidnapped Steffy

@MichelleCootee

27 күн бұрын

Your so right about that

@juliaschmidt6511

27 күн бұрын

He and Morgan could become a couple. They're so evil and insane.

@lisamb4269

27 күн бұрын

Yup, Morgan paid Tim to kidnap her. He's the same therapist that Sheila Carter used, in GC.

@danieldansoowusu4869

27 күн бұрын

He didn't need to throw away his adult collection of videos but everything else does need to go

@dinagillette1625

27 күн бұрын

@@ksbaxter how did morgan take Steffy from the boat? I missed that part..

One would think that if Steffy stirred Pheobe would wake up

Thank you for this really great episode and I hope that everyone is having a great day as well

How did he know it was Steffy

That man is a demon!

@ShaneMcleod-zt7wy

27 күн бұрын

Yea Jamaica men

I wanted to think vile things about this man who kidnapped Steffy. But he’s being punished enough by those sideburns.

Captain Hook wants some of Morgan the sea witch.

These scenes with Ridge and Taylor are so irritating. Ridge is walking on eggshells trying to comfort Taylor, as if she is the only who has lost Steffi. Ridge has lost his own daughter too. Why is the mother always portrayed suffering the loss so dramatically?! Fathers mourn and cry too! Dumb writing combined with poor acting, I suppose..

@annieo6527

27 күн бұрын

This is a great point! And a few episodes ago, we had Eric comforting Ridge by saying "is there anything I can do... for Taylor?" (Of course since this is Eric, the things he thinks he could do for Taylor, he could not do for his son.)

@z-5reader939

27 күн бұрын

Exactly. Doesn’t ring true.

@z-5reader939

27 күн бұрын

But I do think Taylor’s reaction and HT’s acting is realistic. She’s going thru the stages…denial and now anger.

@Esi-741

27 күн бұрын

@@z-5reader939 Sorry, I disagree! HT is a very weak actress, especially in heavy scenes that require crying.

@annieo6527

27 күн бұрын

@@Esi-741 usually, I would agree with you on HT's acting, but I think she has been doing okay for the past few episodes. She doesn't _elevate_ the script the way SF does of course, but at least she doesn't puncture the emotion of the scene the way RM's does.

That Caption Is Right Morgan Is A Lunatic

@juliaschmidt6511

27 күн бұрын

He is one, too. He helped her to kidnap Steffy.

Hunter Tylo herself probably had tragedies going on in her private life at that time, so I can only imagine how hard this must have been for her. 💔Kudos to her for doing such a great job! But to criticise her acting in such a difficult situation for her, is just simply ignorant!😔

@ahy4234

27 күн бұрын

I think you're absolutely right. I also think she does it very convincingly. Her daughter had cancer. But I think her son's death was in 2007? So only years later...

Morgan’s dress is like an intricate spider web. The Other Mother in Coraline.

@annlavine3576

27 күн бұрын

Cruella devalle

Thats not good ❤ Morgan needs therapy ❤

@juliaschmidt6511

27 күн бұрын

She refused it when Taylor wanted her to give the therapist a call. She spit it into Taylor's face instead. Morgan is a real psycho!

The Captain reminds me of Omar

She thinks steffy is her daughter now❤

So I know Morgan knew where ridge and Taylor were thanks to Steph unnecessarily telling her their in Saint thomas, but how did she happen to get in touch with one of the men driving the boat they were on and convince them to take Steffy? Even if she knew the man already how she arrange for him to just happen to be on the boat to take the baby?

@mara4450

27 күн бұрын

Somehow Morgan seems to have known about Ridge's plan to spend the last day on that special island/beach and Morgan - or her accomplice - somehow was able to make it work that TRIDGE would take exactly that tour boat and he would be able to kidnap and smuggle that child to the US.

@TriniT21

27 күн бұрын

Right in both your comments. Did she take over the plane Steph put her on to new york and divert it to St Thomas so she could actually see and hear Ridge and Taylor's exact plans? Even Steph didn't know they were going on a boat. How did Morgan know?

@andream5998

26 күн бұрын

Eric mentioned before Stephanie, that Taylor and rigde are in St Thomas with the children.

@lil_jon411

26 күн бұрын

@@andream5998 yes I know Eric also told her, just didn’t add that.

Daddy deacon ❤😅

Why isnt Steffy crying

@jemekiahall5848

27 күн бұрын

Because she knows Morgan!

She did t go to NYC? She’s trouble, can’t stand her!

@ministryofwrongthink9847

28 күн бұрын

She's there to make another play for Ridge

@MarinsCircuits

28 күн бұрын

Jjwjsjz

@juliaschmidt6511

27 күн бұрын

Morgan wants to take revenge on Taylor and Ridge. Especially Taylor who Morgan thinks is responsible for losing her unborn child.

Morgan blames Taylor i don't understand 😅

@robertscott8344

26 күн бұрын

She blames her for the sin that Stephanie created on her life and that she's the daughter in law has the husband she wants and left her with nothing.

They really are trying to make Morgan into the new Sheila with boat man as the new Mike. But it is total failure. Meanwhile... The boat man has only _now_ realised Morgan was a lunatic? What did he think she was when she hired him to chloroform and kidnap a baby? Anyway, I'm surprised she kidnapped one of the girls and not Thomas, Ridge's actual first son, to "replace" the son of Ridge she felt entitled to.

@annieo6527

26 күн бұрын

Yes - I just replied somewhere else that this scene is like one of Sheila's first scenes with Mike (the one with the scissors). Only, like with everything about Morgan, we don't actually _see_ the scissors (or whatever it was she was holding).

Oh my, Morgan with that man was absolutely 🤢

@TriniT21

27 күн бұрын

In front of Steffy no less... 🤮

The shark part of the story is horrifying...

@MiriamStigsdotter

26 күн бұрын

Yes its so brutal, making the worst even worse...how do you get pass that

How realistic is that, Morgan taking Taylors child as her own while living close to Taylor and Ridge and working at their company?

When Is Joseph Mascolo First Episode As Massimo Marone

Jeffery Anderson Gunter played by Bold and the Beautiful🇯🇲

This St Thomas dude sounds 🇯🇲

How do you speak to her like this!!

481 Episodes Until Bold & Beautiful Season 16

Morgan reminds me of Phyllis

180 Episodes Until Bold & Beautiful Season 15

Yup I thought so and said it in the previous episodes that Morgan paid those guys lol

Ronn❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

It's that Jamaica youth

who is Morgan Detwitt kissing

@MarinsCircuits

29 күн бұрын

boldand the. Beutful

@MarinsCircuits

29 күн бұрын

836

@ministryofwrongthink9847

28 күн бұрын

The guy from the boat that kidnapped steffy

@MarinsCircuits

28 күн бұрын

@@ministryofwrongthink9847 nb

@OradixieGalloway

27 күн бұрын

​@@ministryofwrongthink9847I'm glad Morgan kicked him out!!

Child proofing your home according to Amber: Throw out all aduIt vIdeos. Child proofing your home according to Morgan: Use only moderate amounts of chIoroform on the baby.