Secretariat’s advice is actually kinda shit. It’s more like Secretariat is telling him to run away from any responsibilities for his actions, which Secretariat himself did, which led to his suicide.

@sorkaem

4 жыл бұрын

I came to say this but you already did ! exactly, Secretariat's advice is the thing by which Bojack lived up to season 5 with all the consequences we know...

@stonksrus

4 жыл бұрын

thats...the point...to show that even bojack's greatest role model..someone who is supposedly someone who has it all together and is looked up to by millions is in of himself flawed and cannot handle life on its terms either. it's supposed to be shit

@smritisuresh894

4 жыл бұрын

@@stonksrus Yes agreed! It's just, in this video, it seems to be held as good advice

@ShadyDoorags

4 жыл бұрын

TL;DR I agree with you. I believe the writers wanted Secretariates advice to be somewhat bad, but I also think they wanted to use running as a metaphor throughout the season for striving for happiness, so I tried to piece all of the proper scenes together to understand that. Secretariate took it to one extreme, never looking back, while Bojack took it to the other extreme, always looking back. A person needs to learn from their past, but focus on their future. They need to understand where they came from to know where they're going. The focus of the video, however, was on Bojack who was constantly looking at where he came from without ever trying to understand it so I didn't bother mentioning the flaw in the advice. I do the same thing in the season 4 journey where Bojack finally learns to leave his past behind him.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShadyDoorags Sadly, sometime he can't leave his dark past behind.

He's NOT in love with Charlotte ... he's in love with the idea he represents.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@Instrumentality1000 Tell me about.

@mysouptoocold1656

4 жыл бұрын

He was in love with a "What if" ending with her.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@mysouptoocold1656 Downer fucking Ending!

@Johnlindsey289

3 жыл бұрын

Be glad she chose the right guy being Kyle

@ThiccFurryBoi34

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t that what love it’s what you want in a relationship from the other person that can give it to you it’s all selfish when you only think of them when you need to other than that you just watch and see other lives rather than yourself the people just hide it with a mask of using affection sweet talk it’s just that person on your mind and it stays their when your near them you battle for love but alone you think of something else it just becomes the main goal to you when their in the way of your love

The "it gets easier" monologue always hits the spot, I always feel like I'm a second away from crying

@nathanjones3792

3 жыл бұрын

Nah it's the "ok" afterwards which gets me going

@zaidnava562

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, but I don’t cry

@Carthangion

3 жыл бұрын

One of the best lines/quotes in the show. It's that good good.

My therapist: thicc Mr. PeanutButter painting doesn’t exist he can’t hurt you The thicc Mr. PeanutButter painting: 0:49

@user-xp8nq5mf9y

4 жыл бұрын

@Friday We Are Awesome yes

@harraldaguilar9164

4 жыл бұрын

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@The_Real_Hikki

3 жыл бұрын

Damn bro where is Mr. Peanutbutter going with all that cake.

Was I the only one who read Secretariat’s advice to bojack as terrible advice? Like it stresses future focus rather than past reflection, something bojack needs to learn, but it is also an incredibly selfish message, and obviously one that didn’t help secretariat, given how his story ends.

@mikhailstewart

4 жыл бұрын

I dont think it was suppose to be good advice. The Secreteriat was a broken man who refused to deal with the burdens of his past and that's what led to his suicide.

@Tyler-cm6vk

4 жыл бұрын

Yes the message was flawed and it was the main cause that led to Secretariat killing himself. But BoJack's problem was getting trapped by the past. The whole show explores him as a has-been, having very little sense of purpose while everything changes around him. He never learns how to learn from it. Obviously he has problems with remembering things but the biggest focus of the show is his problem with looking back without looking ahead. The show just addresses that the message shouldn't be taken to an extreme.

@freeunderratedmusic4273

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the advice they give in the mainstream motivational videos here on KZread

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

That's kind of the point. He took bad advice from someone that would eventually commit suicide when he found no longer run from his problems. Bojacks entire life is him making bad decisions based on toxic people around him. His decisions are his own but they are reactions of his environment. It makes you wonder what would have happened had Beatrice given bojack up for adoption in secret and married the person that was chosen for her instead of getting stuck with the deadbeat that knocked her up.

@kathryntaytroe5530

2 жыл бұрын

I think Secretariat's advice is a parallel to "don't stop dancing" showing that Bojack internalized this lesson, giving Sarah Lynn the same advice that he's lived by during her childhood. Sarah Lynn, like Secretariat dies tragically young believing that her soul purpose is to put a show on, similar to Secretariat's advice to keep running no matter what is thrown at you, resulting in their deaths because of living to entertain others.

other reason bojack wanted to secretly dump wanda is that he isn't used to be romantic to women, bojack just seduce them to get laid with him and then abandon them like used condoms, he didn't know how to deal with genuine romantic feelings and prefered to get rid of wanda instead of learning how to deal with the feeling also that when things went topsy turvy with secretariat, she blamed wanda for it same way he blamed that executive woman that made him betray herb and turned him into an asshole, like if is wanda's fault of his assholeness

I’m kind of sad that there’s been no hints that Wanda coming back for a cameo, think it’s the only major character in BoJacks life that isn’t coming back for a bit

@JimmySteller

4 жыл бұрын

What more would there be for them to say or do? They had a relationship which failed because of who Bojack was. Sure, he's changed, but he's never shown much regret for his relationship with Wanda. I think he only actively remembered her once during Gina's song and dance. That's it. Sarah Lynn and Charlotte and Penny are all far more important to him, for good reasons.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@JimmySteller I hope Neal McBeal the Navy SEAL didn't show up in the finale, because he the idiot.

@brianbread7698

4 жыл бұрын

At least she did for wonda's song number.

@bobi200samatar6

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, good for her, she saw through the nonsense and left.

@inscrutablewut

4 жыл бұрын

Lisa Kudrow may not be the easiest person to nail down for VA work. Just a guess.

10:21 bojack couldn’t hear him say that because his parents were screaming in the back ground, never truly got that message

@GiuliaBlack394

3 жыл бұрын

i thought that too, but apparently he heard it so hard that he internalizes it to the point that he focus only on the future so he doesn't care that his actions can hurt others (sorry for my grammar, but english is not my first language and i can understand it if i read it or listen to it but i can't write it very well)

Bojack trying to screw with Penny and Charlotte witnessing it broke my heart.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

That is one of the most dumbest Netflix decision ever!

@laiva2175

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 why i think that really showed how much bojack just wants to feel good in the moment and how he doesn't think about what that will do to others

@shitlordflytrap1078

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 what are you fuckng talking about.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@shitlordflytrap1078 Everybody makes dumb decision. For example, cover up the truth about the month-long bender (Which was the second drug bender that went out of control.), lie to his friends about his trip to New Mexico and worst of all, choking Gina because of the damn painkillers. (Which was the third drug bender that went out of control.)

@shitlordflytrap1078

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 then why are you talking about Netflix

When Bojack got the Secretariat question wrong, my brain was screaming "Throw the game doesn't mean get every question wrong!"

"Bea" not "Mom" displayed when she called.

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

As sad as it is bojack would have been better off severing ties with her decades ago. Not all family ties can be fixed. She always had to bring him down to her level every time he was happy.

Six days from now, we're finally going to figure out what happened to Charolette and her family after the new mexico incident in part 2 of season 6 and hopefully they confront it once and for all.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

As long if they don't suffer any delays, we will.

@TheNatybo

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 6 days out with plenty of trailers and promos... it's not getting delayed bud.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheNatybo The countdown just getting started... only 5 more days till the end of BoJack's story.

Great vid, Shady 🤘

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

I apologize about that show was supposed to be mature, but not that mature. Also you two know each other?!

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@The Raw Truth That never gets old! 😁🤣😊😉 I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles.

@natsuki7325

4 жыл бұрын

You two should collab

Keep these coming Shady! I also never noticed how Wanda keeps her head straight while she twirls in the skating rink. Because she’s an owl

@yandwl4162

4 жыл бұрын

Who?

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

Who? Who? Who?

@randyrichmondiii3415

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 You deserve a sub

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@randyrichmondiii3415 oooooo... tasty sub at Subway.

@randyrichmondiii3415

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 :)

I’m really loving these retrospectives it makes me think about how much this show delves into the human condition and I’m excited to see the conclusion

@ButterStick64

3 жыл бұрын

Main character is a horse and the show teaches so much about the human condition. This show is a masterpiece.

What are you doing here? Me and my bf have made this a running joke. People are always so confused when we say it. Like many of the Bojack lines we've incorporated into our life.

Remember how I watched season 2 finale and thought he would change for the better in season 3. How wrong I was

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

Dead wrong. 😑😐

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

He always finds a new rock bottom to sink to.

This was honestly my favourite season and I hope to see Wonda in part 2.

@jinxthatsme2317

4 жыл бұрын

Lenny Hasal me too. Hands down my favorite season with season 3 coming in second.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@jinxthatsme2317 Are you kidding me?! Season 1 and 2 is my favourite season, you jackass.

@jinxthatsme2317

4 жыл бұрын

Chad Kennedy what’s your problem? jackass.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@jinxthatsme2317 You. Dumbass!

@jinxthatsme2317

4 жыл бұрын

Chad Kennedy Why?

0:22 Beyonce wearing a cast becuz of all the single dollars

@moosasedidi4909

4 жыл бұрын

All the single dollars? All the single dollars

@dangkhoa0202

4 жыл бұрын

@@moosasedidi4909 bills bills bills

I didn't like watching this show bec of how depressed it made me but these analysis videos are like actual therapy that help me take away the good bits of the show in a healthy way so thanks a lot :)

7:45 Those aren’t glasses. Shady just has extremely big pupils which are always looking to the right (from our view).

Awesome video, really well done! Looking forward to your next one

I always hated Beatrice shes just too real. And season 2 broke my heart every wich way

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

She's an idiot, right? Who could forget Beatrice did to BoJack while he was a kid? He smoke her cigarette.

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

The saddest thing is when you find out why she became that way.

@pauladudleycreatfeat

3 жыл бұрын

Although I learned to understand her pain, and my heart aches for the trauma she endured, she was horrible to her son, and is still responsible for everything she's done.

@Johnlindsey289

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 Ever seen the 1985 movie Brewster's Millions? Rupert Thorn's dad caught 7 year old Rupert smoking a cigar and was outraged that he locked Rupert for 3 days in a broom closet with no food or water just a box of cigars and a book of matches and had to finish every one last one of them?

@chadkennedy7855

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnlindsey289 Makes you wonder if Hank Hill got put up with this... 😑

"it gets easier, but yuo gotta do it everyday" very wise words. Reminds me to privatize my mental health each day. Even the minor things like brushing your teeth (shout out to Living Well With Schizophrenia)

Love this show!

Both season 2 and your analysis of Bojack horseman have given me a new perspective on my life. I won't tell you what's wrong, because that's a whole novel, but I know I feel stuck, and I'm unhappy, and despite being very intelligent, I can't seem to ever figure it all out and do what I intend. For some reason, I rarely (if ever) deeply thought about the relationship between temporary happiness, sacrifices, long term happiness, and satisfaction. I don't want to sound shallow and easily influenced, but I think I might be near something big. Thanks for making this.

That’s the saying that stuck with me the most. “When you look at someone through rose colored glasses all those red flags just look like flags. “

Love these videos dude

Hey Shady! Love your stuff!!

In episode 9, when Diane is at the airport coming home, there's a seagull with his arm in a cast. I literally only noticed that and got the joke today!

It just appeared an add of a page/KZread channel called "Art of the horseman" and it's about literally training horses. W o w

I’ve been binging for the last episodes and I just finished season two today lol

I mean, Secretariat's message was good and bad. Bojack needs to let go to move on, but he also needed to learn from his past.

Season 2 devastated me because I had no idea how alcohol worked and blackouts made it sound like a rape potion, which double-downed on the pressure of living through the hype days of Rick and Morty.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

Alcohol is bad for you, bub. So drink responsibly... 😛😜😝

@brianbread7698

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 took me a few mo nths to figure that out.

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

Blackouts are so much stranger than that. You can say and do things that seem completely normal while having no memory of it later on. This is how people wake up in a different city than where they started drinking. The bigger deal though is bojack giving teenagers alcohol. Had he been willing to grow up a little he would have just dumped their alcohol and let them have a good time without it. To be better than he was at that age. But its bojack and he can't see how his actions have consequences for people other than himself.

Love your vids.

When Charlotte caught BoJack and Penny, I WISH BoJack had gone, "WHAT ARE *YOU* DOING HERE?!"

This season hits so hard

This isn't going to be the most groundbreaking of comments, but I just want to say that I love your insight here. What a great way to look at the season as a whole. Thank you.

honestly, if I could get more info on Charlotte for those 30 years, the story would be complete. There definitely is something missing though, because Charlotte is very broken (but definitely not to Bojack's level).

@chadkennedy7855

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Netflix could do a prequel limited series...

@Draconic_Aura

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 bump

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

Him being there likely dredged up a life she had long since left behind. She seemed pretty content without him and would have stayed that way had he not tried to get with her.

@Johnlindsey289

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 A prequel movie be nice

@chadkennedy7855

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnlindsey289 That too...

Wait a minute- S2E1 Beatrice phone call was basically “I see you” right?

Lol, I just noticed they gave the lady who had her face damage because of Diane, a face transfer XDXD

Damn, season 2 was goooooood.

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

Better than season 1 which one reason why that show when off to a rocky start.

I wish Wanda came back up. She made somewhat of a cameo in “The Showstopper” and in season 6. But I just want her to be a more important character.

I hope to see wanda again.

yesss!!

The main problem bojack had is that he doesn’t know the time to stop or when to keep going

@5:16 I would have said 1972: it is only a year off so it wouldn’t have made him look that stupid but would still have helped Wanda

Love this video, but I feel like you neglected talking about the other 4 main characters. No talk about Diane or Todd or even BoJacks fight with PB

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

You mean PB blames BJ for kissing her? Ouch.

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

Yep the one time he actually calls out bojack. On national television no less.

Beatrice says he was born broken and still blames him for being born. I thought she was apologizing for breaking him.

Did anyone else find Diane super relatable this season? Oh, just me? Ok..

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of people hate Diane but I never did. She is just as flawed as everyone else. Her meltdown about the charity work is pretty understandable since she believed in doing good things for good reasons. Until she realized that isnt possible.

This analysis is so goood it made me realize how truly fucked Bojack is and why

On a scale of 1 to 10, i rate season 2 with an 8.

People forget the worst part of this is that bojack almost slept with his friend,s daughter and keep in mind bojack gave into penny almost immediately after being turned down by charlotte meaning he only rejected her the first time because he wanted her mother that time

I’d say season 4 is bojacks only good ending My opinion Season 1 he got stuff but wasn’t better Season 4 he smiles All the others r self explanatory

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

Season 1,2,3, and 5 didn't end well and all I could say was ouch.

@Bruh-bd1yl

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 excactly And seeing season 6 I don’t think it’ll end good

@chadkennedy7855

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bruh-bd1yl Looks like we're going find out if it's going to end good or end bad on Friday.

@Bruh-bd1yl

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 I honestly can’t wait

@Bruh-bd1yl

4 жыл бұрын

@@chadkennedy7855 I live in the uk so it comes out at 8:00 for me

I think Lenny Turtletaub caused Bojacks Happiness the fall apart in this season.

@chadkennedy7855

3 жыл бұрын

That's why he's the producer and always called the shot.

@savagegardenfan9680

3 жыл бұрын

I still think he should of thought twice about altering secrateriat. he acts like a total Jobsworth with about any feelings or sentiment.

@chadkennedy7855

3 жыл бұрын

@@savagegardenfan9680 Ouch. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. I'm tired of running in circles. Also what's is a Jobsworth?

@savagegardenfan9680

3 жыл бұрын

It's someone who rigidly sticks to their Job and is never willing the bend rules no matter how minor.

@chadkennedy7855

3 жыл бұрын

@@savagegardenfan9680 I see... that's unfortunate. He may be tired of running in circle but he keeps running the same terrible treadmill. Plus if it wasn't for Todd and Mr. Peanutbutter, Andrew Garfield still doing this crappy movie.

Is your story about depression or are you not a Western adult animation from the mid-to-late-'10s? 😅

Ok

Personally, I loved Wanda but, and hear me out, the way she spoke to Mr peanutbutter on the show, when she sorta threatened him to make peace with Bojack and that he has no choice or say in the matter, kinda reminded me of Angela. Felt really out of character for Wanda, but like the writers wanted us to see the similarities between them. Both Wanda and Angela did what they had to do for the benefit of them/the network.

that episode with diane staying at bojacks and fucking his life up again really made me hate her character. she often criticizes bojack even though she's the reason he's miserable half the time.

@nubreed13

3 жыл бұрын

This was a rare breakdown for her. This is also why they get along so well. They are very similar but she does usually hold him accountable unlike most of the yes men hes surrounded with. She is way too preachy at times but she is also at least somewhat aware of her own problems.

Would it be symbolic is there’s a cure for the Bojack drug, maybe the drug could contain chemicals that are hazardous

I'm probably gonna get lynched for this but I honestly don't think what Beatrice said in "brand new couch" was meant to be cruel or abusive. Rather, she was simply telling a harsh truth that bojack and the audience don't want to face: there's no cure for being a person. There's no sitcom or movie role that will change what is broken about you. No one can give you something that will change something fundamental about you. For bojack? Its that he's bojack horseman. He desperately wants to be anyone but bojack horseman. But he can't. That's something he can't change. but what he *can* change is how that effects his life and what being bojack horseman means. When I hear her say "you were born broken. that's you're birthright. Its not just you though. You're father and I... But you come by it honestly. You're bojack horseman; there's no cure for that." ? I don't hear her saying something cruel. I hear a less direct version of "you are all the things wrong with you. Its not the drugs, the alcohol, the shitty people in you're carrer, or you parents. It's you." Its like Weiss schnee in rwby. She can't change the fact she's a schnee. Her semblance is proof of this because it's heiritary. But wiess can change what being a schnee means to her. She can change how this fact effects her way of looking at the world. "I don’t know who you think you are, but let me tell you who I am: I am the granddaughter of a hero and a child of a villain. I am a citizen of a fallen Kingdom and an heir to nothing. I will not be defined by my name because I will be the one to define it!" -Weiss vol 9.

This is the season that made me hate Diane.

I defend BoJack in the New Mexico situation. Penny was being persistent into sleeping with BoJack. She was making quite a few excuses like she wasn’t drinking (because she was driving the car), saying she has condoms in her room, and the age of consent. Legally he was would be safe but he refused to sleep with her because he cares about her. Then on the Boat she was still being persistent, saying she knows what she wants. When Charlotte got on the boat and saw them in bed, she jumped to conclusions and assumed that BoJack was seducing Penny but she didn’t know everything about what happened to them. I feel Penny didn’t tell Charlotte the truth. Yes I can agree that BoJack wasn’t thinking about Charlotte when he was trying to convince her to run away with him but she wasn’t thinking straight when she kissed him but she wanted to stay loyal to her family. But in Season 5 Kyle did say he and Charlotte had some troubles but they fixed them. As for Penny in Season 3, when she saw BoJack she started getting terrified and playing the victim. She was the one who wanted to sleep with him.

@gillianbrown8502

4 жыл бұрын

+Chris Klessen - I disagree. Penny was seventeen whereas Bojack was fifty at the time of this season. That's, what? A 33 year age gap? You're correct in saying that Penny was very persistent, and I've seen the argument that "Penny is mature enough to make her own decisions". To that I'd say the entire episode begs to differ. The whole episode she acts like your typical teenager, mood swings, immaturity and whathaveyou. Besides, as Bojack said to Penny himself, "you don't know what you want". She's a stupid teenager, her hormones getting the best of her. Bojack has no excuse, he's a middle-aged adult and attempted to have sex with a (albeit consenting) 17-year-old girl. Doesn't that come across as even the slightest bit creepy to you? That's not even mentioning what else Bojack did that night. A fifty-year-old man went to a highschool prom with a bunch of 16/17 somethings' and supplied them with alcohol. Maddy (Penny's friend) actually passed out from alcohol poisoning and Bojack proceeded to abandon Pete at the ER whilst also being surprisingly threatening in his tone and demeanour. Hell, Bojack only even decided to have sex with Penny because he felt sorry for himself. I understand WHY he did it, but it doesn't excuse the fact that he still did it.

@TheCommenterDragon

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, and to think the topic of what happened in New Mexico is still one of the most debatably discussed topics of the series to this day, but you're right Charlotte jumped to conclusions way to quickly, she thought Bojack was seducing Penny, but as we all know Penny was the one who basically seduced Bojack, not the other way around, so if anything (And i know this is obvious by now) Bojack was the victim of that whole situation, and the only thing Penny is the victim of is her own misguided actions.

@frolicinq

4 жыл бұрын

age of consent only applies to minors interacting with minors. bojack is in his fifties, and Penny is seventeen. That is not ok. do not defend him. he knew better. also, yikes my guy! victim blaming is horrible. with age comes knowledge and realizations. penny realized that what happened was horrific, and it traumatized her. dont victim blame please

@ozi3865

4 жыл бұрын

Age of consent applies to all peoples, not just minors interacting with minors. It is not victim-blaming to point out that Penny was also at fault in the situation. She was not a victim, she was a willing participant in the act. Bojack being much older than Penny doesn't matter in the context, as Penny was a legal consenting party, morally it may have been wrong in some ways, but Bojack was also very clearly in intoxicated and not thinking clearly. Penny jumped on this and used it to coerce him into sleeping with her, even though he decides to do so to make himself feel better. Bojack wasn't in the right, but neither was Penny. She certainly wasn't a victim in any way, unless it was a victim to herself.

@frolicinq

4 жыл бұрын

@@ozi3865 no it doesnt. It literally doesn't. Penny was a victim and ppl need to stop acting like 17 year olds are "smart" or "know what they're doing". People never know what they're doing until theyre like. 30-40. Bojack is literally a gross old 50 year old man who bought minors alcohol, pressured them to drink it, made advances on a seventeen year old, and stalked her to try and "apologize" and sent her into a flashback.

Want to change your life, just listen to George Takei.

Must suck to know your videos are only popular cause of bojack and it’s ending.