I don't necessarily think that normal markers can be applied to someone who spent 18 years in jail, because of a huge miscarriage of justice by the very people that were supposed to find out the truth. The county are in favour of him being sent down, because it would cost them millions if he brought an action against them. The corruption in this case runs so deeply, how on earth could he ever get a fair trial. I 100% do not believe he is guilty.

@rachaelesque3

3 жыл бұрын

Nailed it.

@ryanturner9509

3 жыл бұрын

agree 100%

@MumaBoo

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think he's bound to be nervous given what the police did to him before. The police have motive, opportunity and resources to pull it off

@sativarose5206

3 жыл бұрын

BINGO💯 I dont agree with his analysis at all! After suffering at the hands of those same officers . . . He makes an assumption from those markers? He would assume my guilt just as easily then. I have no love for the police force. I've lived their lie of serving and protecting. I had faith in our systems until I was thrown into a horrible murder case as a witness and given an assumed guilt . . . 4 yrs later. Luckily all involved were found not guilty. A hard fought win, a yr and a half after the actual perpetrator came forward and confessed on his own accord. . . They opened a case against him and continued to try and find my childhood friends guilty anyway with an entirely different storyline. . . I will never had an ounce of trust for an officer of any kind again. And I didnt spent 18 yrs in jail.

@itsacarolbthing5221

3 жыл бұрын

@@sativarose5206 I'm so sorry you've been through that, Katie. It must have been horrendous. It gives you a unique insight into this case. Best wishes for the future. Xx

As an ex correctional officer, I have experience watching for nonverbal communication. I also know that being in prison for 17 years, especially a wrongful conviction can cause someone to lose empathy for other people. In prison, offenders are usually forced to concern themselves with their own survival and ignore the suffering of others. I believe that Steven's demeanor could simply be a result of years of imprisonment and an unjust conviction.

@Heligany

2 жыл бұрын

Ive noticed something similar in myself since becoming long term ill (and not getting help with day to day stuff)... its not that Im incapable of empathy for others anymore its more a "not enough spoons" thing... I worry that it is something that is becoming habit now and eventually I might lose most of my capacity for empathy.

@Midnightingeorgia

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@jay-thetruth-stone12

2 жыл бұрын

Facts sir

@j.r.r.tolkien8724

2 жыл бұрын

He burned a fucking cat before. I find it so laughable when people sympathize with psychopaths...

@nemesis8604

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 so what That makes you a murderer? Shut the hell up

I agree that the disgust expression and the red flags all seem to point to him not being ok with law enforcement- not being a very good liar- and just being very scared about getting falsely arrested again

To me he seems terrified and knows he’s being framed almost like “here we go again.”

@j3ssmari371

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@jorybrosted7298

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Puglover130

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@eldavieo

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the guy doing this video doesn’t take that into account I think

@warrioratthewall1969

3 жыл бұрын

@@eldavieoagreed. this over analyzing narrator also says this is the night she disappeared, its not. It is probably the night she was reported missing.

please cover Brendan’s police interrogation, it was shameful - Brendan was failed by the system.

@mandyheule4252

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I’m sad for him

@ellcharlotte

3 жыл бұрын

@@mandyheule4252 So poor from the system, they took advantage of his disability, age and vulnerability.

@JazzNazz1

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a video but he would need another one for him to establish a baseline

@mandyheule4252

3 жыл бұрын

@@JazzNazz1 there are many just from the Netflix documentary where he is not under pressure or in distress that would work

@JazzNazz1

3 жыл бұрын

@@mandyheule4252 maybe but they are about 5 months after the whole disappearance I would be happy to see the video because Brendan shouldn’t be in prison

I nod my head when ppl are talking to me so they know that I am paying attention... So I don't think it should be described as a manipulative tactic.

@rachelfunk7118

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but he is saying it can be manipulative if you do it while you are speaking. To get your listener to agree with you.

@thetableoflegend9814

3 жыл бұрын

I think he also meant doing it intentionally. So people who lie often know to do this because it will often get them better results.

@allisoncassibarton1939

3 жыл бұрын

I do it as well and I think it’s probably to just reiterate what I’m saying

@tinywalnut6337

3 жыл бұрын

In other videos, it's an indication of honesty about what he's saying. For some reason with Avery, it's an indication of manipulation. This read is biased.

@micaelarichard9060

3 жыл бұрын

@@tinywalnut6337 I thought the same thing- I thought that he said nodding or shaking your head to match affirmative/negative statements could be a sign of truth. I don't think he's ever said that someone nodding while speaking was manipulative before.

For a man who spent almost 2 decades in prison for a crime he didn't commit, he'd have to be a psychopath to NOT be showing nervousness or be concerned about this. I would love to see your take on Brandon's "interrogation".

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

Coincidentally, both Observe and the four body language experts of The Behavior Panel believe you see signs of psychopathy in Steven's behaviour.

@jmichaelrice2

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM Thats the problem with trying to fit 7 billion people into a text book psychology diagnosis. His lack of empathy or concern aligns with his mental and emotional abuse from being framed by authority figures, spending 2 decades in prison for it, and being investigated by the same police force who framed him the first time, when there someone he barely knew went missing sometime after taking pictures on his property. At that moment Avery had no time to be concerned for the missing woman because quite literally his life was on the line again.

@LuXun-MaM

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmichaelrice2 body language experts think otherwise.

@KAT_FormerlyNosferKatu

Жыл бұрын

I just made a comment asking for Brendan's interrogation to be analyzed too.

Could his emotional absence when trying to empathize with Teresa's family be caused by his 18 years of jail? The guy has been through so much, what are the chances he's so terrified, that's he's emotional unable to properly relate to the family?

@vinsanity982

2 жыл бұрын

Considering he burned at cat alive, I'd more in the camp that he's a psychopath

I find it a little weird that at the end you jump to: if Avery didn't do it, you have to believe the cops murdered Theresa. I'm sorry, but that is not the case at all, it is a real possibility that someone else killed her and knew that Avery would be easy to frame, and after that the cops helped with the frame because either 1. they really think he did it and there is just not enough evidence so they planted some, or 2. they really don't want to pay so they planted some evidence to make sure he gets convicted and they don't care if he didn't actually do it. It's quite a leap to say that the only other option is that the cops organised everything and killed Theresa.

@Bowie5386

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the ending seemed to come out of nowhere for me and was a huge leap from making claims based on his expertise, such as reading body language, to making claims outside of his expertise, such as forensic investigation. It's well known that cops protect each other. It does not need to be an organized event. Just one cop needed to plant evidence to pin it on Avery for the whole department to protect them afterwards. It's definitely not just a choice between Avery or an elaborate conspiracy. There are many options in between.

@amandaribofpalmetto

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but "Stephen's propensity for violence"? According to who? He was in jail for 18 years for something he definitely did not do and has been in jail for another 13 or so years now for something he says he also didn't do, and the whole time he's described as a model inmate? Someone with a propensity for violence wouldn't be a model inmate.

@jay2thaudy

3 жыл бұрын

You don't have to believe that the cops did it. Yes the cops likely framed him because it saved them 60+ million dollars however if you've seen all the evidence it's VERY likely that Brendan dasseys older brother and step father are VERY suspicious.

@Actinuon

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's how it went down, the police were handed a giant gift. I personally think Scott had something to do with it. And even though they had all the time in the world with the crime scene. Botch after botch after botch. It was a rushed attempt with a lot of last minute thinking.

@jay2thaudy

3 жыл бұрын

@Holli Lafferty I think he's sus because the police fed him info (along with other family members). I'm not sure he had the opportunity to grab TH.

The wrongful imprisonment makes it hard for me to pay attention to red flags. He knows he has to be careful, whether or not he did it, and the way they interviewed them (especially Brendan) should go down in history. That kid was coached to come clean. I'm still not convinced! I also don't necessarily think they're innocent, but they had an awfully suspicious family member close by 👀

@septarian3337

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have to agree. When I'm put myself in his shoes... 18years in prison for something I didn't do and then to get out and be accused of something like this again... I'd have a lot of disgust and mistrust of pretty much everyone honestly. This whole case is unique and definitely has a lot more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know. He's clearly tired and trying to move on with the time he has left. Which is understandable in my opinion. To me he seems stripped of emotion, which is different than not having any.

@themulti-coloredcanary5795

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing. He probably doesn't trust this reporter. So I think a lot of those red flags could be him trying to guard his words and discern if she is genuinely wanting his side or if she is trying to trap him into something.

@jenn6753

3 жыл бұрын

💯

@briannaalexander4224

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Bobby did it.

@Boultbeeable

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, exactly what I said. I just can't believe the police weren't involved, and that Avery is guilty. In this interview it looks as though he just wants the interview to be over, and that he's angry he's going through this again. As for his ex, I don't believe anything she says either. I still think Bobby did it, he's bad news.

Sure was convenient they got to him before that pending lawsuit. If we want to talk about motive and all....🤷‍♀️

@dishdog215

2 жыл бұрын

Also inconvenient that they found leg irons and handcuffs in his trailer...(mine are in my crawlspace)

I believe the nerves that are playing out is his fear of the f*ucked up thing to happen again - being falsely accused. I too would be nervous, strained and scared for my life. In this situation I would probably sound as IF I was the killer, thanks to my nerves.

Crazy part is when they interviewed his nephew, who is a little mentally handicapped. And were suggesting things to make him confess. “You helped him tie her to the bed didn’t you” or something along those lines. When there was no evidence of anyone being tied to a bed. Like it was just crazy!! It’d be great if you could cover that also

@haliensexist

3 жыл бұрын

That is one of the most disturbing parts of this whole case. Truly upsetting.

@dreaj1077

3 жыл бұрын

False confession just like the West Memphis Three. He should do a series on the West Memphis Three.

@anthonystevens7594

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, the interview of the nephew is beyond upsetting to me. "No....what did he do to her head" "umm...hit her" "no, think think think, what could u do to someones head, that would kill them" "ummmm" "did he shoot her in the head?" "oh....yes...." "no way he would've known that if he weren't involved".

@lacieglaab5899

3 жыл бұрын

This...

@maddywalker

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Pleaaase!! That interview was infuriating for me, it was awful!! :(

Any stressors you see could totally be his fear of being falsely accused again.

@d.j.kelleher8516

3 жыл бұрын

Would he be stupid enough to do it? Knowing full well that the cops hate him already and would do everything in their power to get him. I don't think so. The way Brandon was treated makes me think that it was a set up.

@crwlh6721

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely. And for this guy to label him guilty without even mentioning that fact makes me question his credentials. Too many red flags in this "analysis" to believe this guy has any real working knowledge of body language.

@user-bh2fz5sf5e

3 жыл бұрын

@@crwlh6721 same! Plus in part one he kept saying avery was using body language that was "self conscious" when actually the correct consciousness he was referring to was sub conscious.. it was very weird to hear a "professional" get those two things confused 🤔

@ORIA_1125

3 жыл бұрын

he already was wrongfully convicted, i don't blame him. other ppl don't trust police after smaller injustice...

@Samantha-xq5ke

3 жыл бұрын

Right. I'd be losing my mind in there. Angry. Scared. Untrusting.

He might be guilty but the case was so horribly mishandled it should have been thrown out. I mean, the fact the cop(that he was sueing) was allowed to even be a part of the case qualified for a dismissal.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

He was not sueing any cop. He was sueing the county and two retired county officials.

@josephiles5793

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM So basically it was what he said, but rather then it being one cop on the case, he was actually sueing ALL the cops working his case.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephiles5793 ehm. No.

@mvb88

3 жыл бұрын

That's my thoughts too. I watched every minute of every show. If he's guilty. The 3 cops shouldn't of been within 100 miles of his property. Since they wore on his property wail they wore been investigated for the wrongful conviction. Wail the new investigation is happening. That's the red flags.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@mvb88 they weren't being investigated for the wrongful conviction. They just gave testimony about the phone call, that's it.

The fact that he was wrongly accused by this same police department previously, and is still offering to provide information, says a lot.

When he is asked if it is odd and has all those spikes, it would make sense that it would be because he is defensive. The implication of the question is that he knows something and I think his response is saying WHOA. HOLD ON.

@elenabaker

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent point!

@gerrytimbers945

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed Jessica. I think part of his anomalous reactions are do to his unwavering belief that he is being setup,.. something he does not want to say over network television.

When you analyze someone's non-verbal communication while completely disregarding their past trauma, personality, mental abilities, etc. Not only that but the whole ''analysis'' lost credibility when it was mentioned that Steven was nodding to make the person agree with him/his statement yet he is nodding every time a question is being asked. You can't just build a narrative and then shape your analysis around that. Also ''idiotes'' is the french, plural feminine version of ''idiot''.

@kathleen1685

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

The fact that he's speaking about her in the past-tense while she's supposedly missing, is the number one red flag that indicates he already knows she's dead. Also, the NETFLIX docu-series should be the gold standard in how you can persuade an audience to believe something, by leaving out key details, and framing the discussion in a particular matter. Avery was wrongfully convicted once, but he wasn't wrongfully convicted a second time. The other thing I would like the point out, is, the actual motive attributed to law enforcement for wanting to put Avery back in prison is flawed. Avery's lawsuit wasn't coming out of the pockets of police officers, or the departments budget. The tax payers would have foot the bill. So whether or not Avery won his lawsuit, would have no impact on the departments finances.

@Emma-sc6fr

5 ай бұрын

The whole family talks in past tense .. it's hard to understand any of them. Yaa

@kristopherfrush2875

4 ай бұрын

So, almost every officer was being deposed, they were all obviously lying and I agree with the last few comments given he's been wrongfully convicted. Also he was talking past tense because he had recently done business with her, do some research on Kathleen zellners opinion she would've taken the case if she wasn't at least 99 percent sure that he was innocent. Steven avery is innocent new evidence has come up specifically naming Bobby dassey as the killer.

He's insecure when answering her questions probably because he's wondering wtf are these questions she's asking and he's so use to being accused in the past he most likely has a wall put up or scared

I 100% will never believe he’s guilty. The circumstances are far too convenient for a city/county/state who clearly doesn’t want to award millions of dollars for an egregious wrongful conviction that took nearly 20 years of someone’s life. The fact that there are neighboring lands and homes near the Avery residence that were never even searched says it all. They narrowed in on Avery and ignored any other alternative just as they did with his first conviction. Any spike in his body language is completely understandable given not only his history with that very police department, but with the reporter’s seemingly very biased and accusatory questioning. I’d spike way worse than he did.

@Persephone549

3 жыл бұрын

And the way they railroaded Brendon, too. They are both lower functioning and I think the PD preyed upon that.

@bobcatred

3 жыл бұрын

I think that no matter what the real circumstances of Theresa’s murder were, the county police had a clear conflict of interest running any case with a man who was suing them, and it would have been in everyone’s best interest if they’d called in another police force to run the investigation, whether that be the city police or county police from the next county. If they’d conferred with their lawyers, I’m sure any half competent lawyer would have told them to keep themselves away from Avery and let some other force handle it. Had they done that, I think there would be far fewer questions in this case.

@BretValdez

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobcatred agreed.

@iceicetina5876

3 жыл бұрын

There's a TON of reasonable doubt. And brendans confession has been proven to be false and that is their key reason to arresting them both... It's really frustrating to watch the documentary i actually had to stop watching lol i think Steven was innocent again honeslty

I feel like the "ya knows" are a regional thing.

@pearlrose20

3 жыл бұрын

I live in WI, they most definitely are, ya know? ;)

@jayesbginger504

3 жыл бұрын

@@pearlrose20 In london its ya get me?

@sweet_t811

3 жыл бұрын

@James Barlow whoa 😳

@khwisco6112

3 жыл бұрын

@@pearlrose20 Northern Wisconsin here, definitely as common as saying 'ope' to 'scoot' past someone lol

@karanativeporcupine6361

2 жыл бұрын

"Ya know" is 100% a WI & yupper thing, used in countless ways. Positive, negative, questioning, or "just because"

Everytime I watch these videos it's like: Logan: *Points out a facial tick or expression* Logan: Now that can be a sign of aggression or anger at the question. It's generally sign that this person is guilty. However it could also completely mean that they're angry they're being wrongfully accused, which would then be a sign that this person is innocent."

The system has failed Steven and Brendan!!! And there's still no judice for Teresa and her family!!!

I think this is the first video that I don’t agree with your conclusion. I’ve watched both parts of making a murderer and kept in mind the whole way through that it was a biased documentary. However the second part especially brings up a lot of really good points that say the murder couldn’t have possibly happened how the police said it did, and they present everything very logically and straightforward. I’m not saying Stephen Avery is a great human being, but I’m still very skeptical that he’s guilty for that specific crime. And I think the amount of meddling that the police did should have gotten the case thrown out.

@BretValdez

3 жыл бұрын

^ this.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

Those tests were all flawed, hence why her motion was denied.

@BarbieBando

3 жыл бұрын

💯🙌🏼

@blondesense1708

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I actually still thought he was guilty after the first doc, but after the second I was convinced, and at the very least the police conduct and the other possible suspect they raised (I won’t spoil it for people who want to watch) are absolutely reasonable doubt.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@blondesense1708 All of those seemed steered to get the results she wanted.

He’s innocent in my opinion. Yes he isn’t the greatest character and seems like a sketchy person in general but he had ZERO motive. The law enforcement DID. And I don’t care how low his IQ is, he wouldn’t be that dumb to leave all the evidence there on his own lot and risk going back to jail all while he had 35 million dollars coming his way. The case should’ve been thrown out anyway with how it was mishandled. I’ll admit he does come across as unsympathetic as you say but I’d like to know how your mental state would be if you spent the last 18 years in jail for a crime you didn’t commit, just to get out and be accused of a crime that might put you back in there? I’d be so numb... I commend him on how strong he’s been, mentally and emotionally.

@AriccaChristine

3 жыл бұрын

This!!

@lacieglaab5899

3 жыл бұрын

He IS innocent! 100%. He was set up. This is the most disheartening falsely accused case I have ever seen💔😢

@lacieglaab5899

3 жыл бұрын

Agree with your statement btw💯👍

@Lindseyisloony

3 жыл бұрын

Not just zero motive. He had every motivation in the world NOT to do anything that would result in police at his door. The police had a whole lot of motivation to frame him and had already proved that they had it out for him. And how can anybody get an accurate reading off his behavior when his circumstances are so unique? Nobody has studied how people behave after being wrongfully convicted due to a horribly mishandled investigation, imprisoned for years, released and granted a huge payout from the police who essentially framed them and then accused of murder by the same damn cops who shouldn't even have jobs anymore. Non verbal communication just isn't enough in a case like this. The focus should be on the real evidence. The key in particular was so obviously planted cause there's literally no way that it could have been missed initially, which means it could not possibly have been put there by Steven. Is he a great guy? Hell no. But the huge majority of crappy people don't ever kill anybody and they sure as f don't kill somebody after already being targeted by dishonest cops.

@lacieglaab5899

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lindseyisloony agree!

CAN YOU PLEASE PLEASE COVER TERESAS BROTHER AND EX BOYFRIEND AND MOMS INTERVIEWS NEXT. PLZ PLZ. PLZ. PLZXZZZ. those are horrible. they’re so incriminating and i feel like they’re a vital part of seeing another side of what happened to teresa. they don’t sit right.

@truthseeker9864

3 жыл бұрын

Your Absolutely right,

Is he taking into account the level of intelligence Steven Avery has? I can’t see someone like Avery having a lot of empathy if a person he absolutely doesn’t know has gone missing

I’ve always been unsure about Avery, but the Brandon Dassey interrogation is simply shameful. Any chance you’ll cover that?

@lozchai5421

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! I am still so unsure about SA!! BD's interrogation was WOEFUL, they should be ashamed of themselves, anyone with a right mind should be able to see how WRONG & misleading that was! I believe , they deserve a re-trial at the least! The fact the same investigators who put him away WRONGFULLY the first time, worked on TH case, (IMO) SHOULD. be enough for retrial ...

@kclauren6052

3 жыл бұрын

This!!!

@d.j.kelleher8516

3 жыл бұрын

@@kclauren6052 oh no! It's the grammar police😉

@josi4251

3 жыл бұрын

@@d.j.kelleher8516 No, it's just the Random Caps-Lock police.

@d.j.kelleher8516

3 жыл бұрын

@@josi4251 they should all be cap-locked up!

I have a hard time with this one, but in this case I have a HUGE bias. I'm married to a guy that was wrongly accused and did jail time TWICE for crimes he didn't commit. Corrupt officials never seem to do it once, each time they get away with writing their own rules, they become emboldened and it's disgusting.

@sunshinealice3335

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that would be hard! May I ask what your husband was wrongfully accused of? Was he convicted of both? I'm sorry. I can't even imagine how difficult that would have been. Hoping things are better for your family now🧡

@BarbieBando

3 жыл бұрын

💯

@caelamarie9934

3 жыл бұрын

THIS! I’m sorry you and your husband had to endure that 🙏🏻❤️

@Actinuon

3 жыл бұрын

I think there's a huge amount of this, take the cop in Florida who was planting drugs on ex cons. They know they can get away with it, who would believe an old meth head against an officer. They prey on those who can't stand up for themselves, they always have.

@GreatDayEveryone

2 жыл бұрын

Oh you poor thing. I was in your situation. I believed him. I was stupid. He eventually did it again. Be careful. Be very very careful

I love your channel and your analyses! You explain all the small details and it's entertaining to watch. I recently just finished the 2 seasons of Making A Murderer, and this analysis is very fascinating to me. I would be very interested in seeing your analyses of the deposition and courtroom videos of the officers and sheriffs. Anyway, keep up the good work!

Please do an analysis of mike halbach & the sketchy ex ryan hiligas, also be good to hear your take on the tearless crying done by teresa's mother.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting her mother was not grieving about her daughter's death?

I have always had a question about this case. Wasn’t there a call in about her car where the police officer read her license plate before it was found at Stevens? I seem to remember this and always wondered how that wasn’t an important piece of proof.

@petral6623

3 жыл бұрын

Yes there was. I believe the Real Crime Profile discussed that at length.

@mel-oo1wt

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the docuseries

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

The call was edited in the docuseries. In the docuseries he answers "yes" to the question whether this was a suspicious call. At trial he actually answered "yes" to the question whether this was just a routine call, like many other calls.

@avonlady30

3 жыл бұрын

The cop was clearly staring at the tag of the vehicle and lied on the stand. Anytime someone pulls the "this is the first time someone has questioned my integrity card" it is pretty obvious that they are lying. You are in a court of law sir! It is an attorney's job to ask questions! That cop is as crooked as they come!

@DorotaGabal

2 жыл бұрын

@@avonlady30 _Especially_ if said officer was just deposed. Over grievous mishandling of a case against Steven Avery of all people. Andy Colburn is extremely evasive when it comes to answering questions by the defense, and is not providing straight answers.

But he spent 18 years for something he didn't do, I feel like he would be so hardened and good at hiding his emotions. The contempt is probably about that

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

Seems to me he took those 18 years into account

@phlhoran12396

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM Well it seems to me he did but he also didn't at times too. 🙄

Came back to watch this and to say you are were right..he is guilty.. after years looking at everything and everyone..when you then look at Steven you start to notice his lies ..changing his stories. Steven thought he was untouchable..

You lost me in the first minute: head nodding to manipulate the interviewer? FHS. Unsubscribing.

Another case of dirty small town cops in mid America, it baffles me at just how many cases of corruption just get berried.

Not quite sure about your assumption that the police had to have murdered her for Avery to be innocent, they could have found the car et al and then created the rest of the “evidence” I agree it’s a stretch, but tens of millions of lawsuit dollars can be a motivator

I absolutely love this channel! I discovered it around a week ago and I cannot get enough of it!! This is great content :):).

Thank you for the vid! This is fascinating and I'm really unsure about him. I'd love to watch a read on the interview of his ex.

He didn't do it! There's no empathy because he's pissed off that he's being questioned he's afraid of going back to prison again on false accusations he's not worried about how the girl's family feels he's worried about himself possibly being framed again, remember he just got out after spending close to 20 years on bs charges so ofcourse he has no emotion he's gone numb to protect himself.

@nun.9902

3 жыл бұрын

agreed hes disassociating to protect himself emotionally i think he had a hunch that this was to get back at him can tell he just knew it was happening all over again. but this time it was murder he was being accused of. fucking disgusting the people who did this to avery, brandon and their families and to Theresa and her family need to be imprisoned for the rest of their pitiful lives.

@darcandelaria

3 жыл бұрын

@@nun.9902 I know! Breaks my heart for him and his parents, I seriously cried for his mom and dad. I pray for the day he's set free and paid double or triple of what they were supposed to pay him.

@katybug6572

3 жыл бұрын

Soooo the cops killed her just to frame him? Is that what your saying?

@nun.9902

3 жыл бұрын

@@katybug6572 did you watch the documentary 🤔

@SoulforSale

3 жыл бұрын

Avery is OBVIOUSLY a master manipulator. He is a genius low key.

I'd be inclined to think that when someone had already been falsely accused, punished, and left in jail for 18 years, and fully expects that the same thing is happening again, that body language might show differently to how it would in someone who has never experienced this.

The analysing is total b.s. being from Wisconsin totally the way we talk...after every statement, we say aiyna, like u agree ????

Hi, I'm new to your channel.. And love your work 👏 Yes.. Please do more on this case 🙏 😊

Is it weird how comforting and calming watching these are for me? I think it is mostly his voice and his cadence.

@rsmania01

3 жыл бұрын

Not weird

@kclauren6052

3 жыл бұрын

Not weird at all

@fyretyger1915

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! You should read us Sherlock stories.

@susieqz813

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not weird. Unless I’m weird too cuz even though the subject matter is dark, watching Logan explain his thoughts is very soothing. 🤔

@tinyhuman5610

3 жыл бұрын

Educational, intriguing, and super calming...it's a hard mixture to achieve, but here we are.

But has anyone questioned Theresa's ex boyfriend, or Stevens sisters older son? For some strange reason the law has been after stevens head. Not saying that he is a saint, but damn near everyone in this documentary acted weird imo.

@deesee3622

3 жыл бұрын

yeah the older brother had things on the computer and they were very disturbing - images of mutilated women

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@deesee3622 It was the family computer... anyone could've looked up those images.

@ericahoneycutt2761

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM except the timeframe those gross things were looked up was when Bobby Dassey was alone in the home. So there's that.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericahoneycutt2761 No, that's not true. Using that (unreliable) method Zellner connected Bobby to only about 40~50 searches, while many more were found.

@factorylad5071

3 жыл бұрын

Insane comment because it was always Steven who met The Auto Trader photographer. No one else.

Love your videos!

You missed the whole point..... At this point she is just missing. She could have just fallen down somewhere or had a medical emergency. But Avery is talking about how they are locking their doors and that a bad thing happened close to home. It's just a missing person. But he knows it's not just a missing person.

I also noticed when asked about how her family must be feeling he immediately turned the focus to himself and how he went to jail. To me it seemed like he was showing a bit of his rage to the interview. Kind of like "yeah they are hurting but so what, my family hurt when I was in jail and they couldn't see me too."

@raheppe

3 жыл бұрын

I think that just means he doesn't care. Nobody cared about him or his family and of course they are hurting, that is what happens. I don't think he has empathy, that doesn't imply anything nefarious itself.

@trixiered5544

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's possible he doesn't actually feel empathy, but has learned to attempt to relate a situation to something he has been through. I believe this was a genuine attempt to simply relate.

What really upsets me about this case is when the police force his cousin or is it his nephew to emit being partaking on murdering this woman oh so disgusting

@lonewolfheart1697

3 жыл бұрын

That was awful! They knew he was a vulnerable person because of his low IQ... legally, he should have had an adult/guardian/parent present.

@ccc12346

3 жыл бұрын

@@lonewolfheart1697 yet nichol kessinger, a grown woman, gets to bring her daddy in with her... 🙄

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was Avery who forced his nephew to partake

@JazzNazz1

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM yeah it’s unlikely if you watch all the interviews experts tend to agree Steve Moore, Jim Clement and Laure Richards to name a few

@dewilew2137

3 жыл бұрын

Huh?

09:59 "They've lost somebody" Ouch! Case over! She was only a "missing person" at that time! He quickly corrected his slipup by adding: "or whatever, she's gotta be out there somewhere".

I think it's pretty obvious he did it to anyone who did 5 minutes of research outside of the Netflix series

Interesting he said "I learned my lesson" especially when most of what I see is negative emotions for the cops... and duh. He learned the lesson that he's likely to get railroaded.

I would be full of contempt. After being in jail for 18 years for a crime he didn't commit, being asked by the police AGAIN... man.... I'd be full of contempt for the police.

I go back and forth about his innocence. The police from his previous case should have been completely barred from the case and they should have brought in another department completely. They were still allowed to be around the case which is ridiculous

Wow, great read! Thanks for another entertaining video. I'd like to see your read of his ex fiancé's interview.

How does this work when someone has been wrongfully accused and imprisoned for 16 years prior to all of these questions? Wouldn’t that add a major amount of unusual fear or uncommon fear that would cause the normally innocent unworried person to show all kinds of reactions.

@reginamills6137

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯

@nikkizai4230

9 ай бұрын

Agree….I wouldn’t be doing interviews that’s for sure

When you say that the police had a role in covering it up, it seems exaggerated when you say they also MUST have committed the murder too. Why is there not other variations of the scenario? It's not usually just black and white like that.

@kalen3719

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with this.

@thetableoflegend9814

3 жыл бұрын

That part did confuse me (I admittedly haven’t seen the other video yet nor watched the documentary) but I was like, why did the police have to have killed her

@SarahELogan87

3 жыл бұрын

Yah, I imagine she was killed by a third party... but the police were so convinced of Avery’s guilt that they did what they thought they needed to to make the conviction stick. I’m sure they think what they did was right. But we’ve been here before, they’ve done this to him already. Ignored evidence and other suspects, because they were hell bent on convicting him. Last time they did this, he was behind bars for 18 years for a crime he didn’t commit.

@briannaalexander4224

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the documentaries. There is another very likely suspect, Bobby Dassey, the other nephew. He was known to have had a crush on her, he had hours upon hours of violent porn on his computer, and he suspiciously left just before her in the same direction she was traveling, on a pretty deserted road. And he had all the access that Stephen did, as he literally lived right next door to him.

@s.a.b.i.

3 жыл бұрын

@@SarahELogan87 Exactly! A scary thought that should keep people up at night: how many other times has this happened? Sure was convenient with the pending lawsuit though. Talk about motive....

I also feel like when Steven displays no sadness emote during his take on how the family feels it is because of his contempt of law enforcement and his fear of saying too much. He seems to be shutting himself down too much. He was scared of going away and he has.

I can’t believe you would think the police wouldn’t. Hunny, you haven’t known the dark side of life. Jody was NOT AFRAID she was paid and mad. Unbelievable

There were a lot of other interviews with Steve that were a lot longer, you should do a few more I feel

@BarbieBando

3 жыл бұрын

*Agree*

@alieum101

3 жыл бұрын

Agree ! to get a base line of how he is since he does seem to lack emotion from being imprisoned falsely

Why are you classifying his head nod's as manipulative? lol .. they clearly are not. They're reactive. This guy does them *all* the time. They are unconscious movements. To be manipulative, they'd have to be done with thought & with awareness. Nope. Yes, head nod's are often manipulative, but not always. Have you seen Chris Watts right after the incident? Compare that behavior with this behavior. For you to call him guilty based upon this interview is ridiculous. What are your credentials? And, btw, the police were attempting to PROTECT THEMSELVES from a lawsuit, not protect the community. Where have you been? Watch Dr. Grande & learn something.

@calimango7926

3 жыл бұрын

I strongly agree with your first point. I don't believe that head nods are, in majority case, manipulative. In fact, I wrote a comment on his other video breaking down the meaning of a head nod during my interactions, and A LOT of people agreed with me. Like you said, I think head nods are reactive, and very rarely used as a consciously manipulative gesture. I highly doubt that Steven researched ways to make people like him, chose repetitive head nods as his action, and yet somehow managed not to cover all the other nonverbal bases.....

@crwlh6721

3 жыл бұрын

@@calimango7926 Very insightful, and very astute point! There's about zero percent chance that Avery did as you mentioned (research ways to make people like him & chose head nods as his action). Furthermore, there's no hint of Avery being flustered or contrived during this interview. The fact that this "body language analyst" comes to a guilty conclusion, based in part on this interview, shows he has little to no expertise in this field.

@stephanieherbert2901

3 жыл бұрын

You can develop manipulative gestures unconsciously. People who lie a lot, who are good at lying, figure out things that make people more likely to believe them, but they might not even be aware of those things enough to list them out. My ex was super manipulative and charismatic. I often wondered how much of what he did was conscious and intentional and how much just came naturally or developed via success subconsciously. All of it was still manipulative though. Even in verbal things, people develop little tactics that are manipulative but would be offended to be called manipulative because they aren't aware they are doing it- things like using distancing words for example. Some people do that without realizing and some do it intentionally, it's still manipulative.

@RecoveryMum

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@synisterv7703

3 жыл бұрын

@@crwlh6721 There was one point where he said no red flags then proceeds to say it could also mean this and that, I was like WTF?!? I could've said it's 50/50!!! This dude starting to piss me off!!! With his fancy suit and very fine hat!!!😆😂🤣

Poor guy had just spent 18 years in prison wrongly convicted of a rape. I don't believe he murdered her at all. The government need to get him and Brendan out of prison asap.

I see disgust and some anger in Avery's demeanor and expression but I don't see any nervousness or much deceit. His speech pattern is consistent, he doesn't really touch his face, his answers are clear and concise and he doesn't exaggerate or try to overtly convince anyone of anything. We already know he had a very bad relationship with the police, whom he was suing for millions at that time, so clearly he was unhappy with being looked at in concern with the disappearance of Theresa. I see the lack of sadness as an indicator that he just didn't have a very close relationship with her and he's annoyed because he knows the police are looking at him. For someone who would have just committed cold-blooded murder and burned a body, he seems very relaxed and calm. As for what happened to Teresa Halback. I don't know, what was the motive for Avery killing her? Dude was going to get a big win and get loads of money from the country, he had just left prison after being convicted despite being innocent. He may be a psychopath, that could explain it, but I think he's more likely not guilty than guilty. I'd day 60/100. As for the police, no I don't believe they killed Halbach and planted all the evidence to frame Avery. I do think it's possible someone else killed her and dumped the evidence on Avery's property, as they would know that the police would look at him. I think the cops may have planted some evidence to strengthen the case, that's not far-fetched to believe they found some things but planted others. Unless someone confesses, we'll never know and I'm hard-pressed to see a way out of jail for Avery unless some major discovery happens. I believe there was enough reasonable doubt to acquit but there was evidence and a court cannot overturn his conviction because of it.

He prob is thinking about himself during the interview and how the police are coming for him. He is on the defense imo

@janelle9753

3 жыл бұрын

I got the impression he wasn't talking to the public, but more so towards the local police department.

@Boultbeeable

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I said that. He has all his walls up, and he knows what's going to happen. He looks defeated, like a man stripped of his former self.

@meowllison9414

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I don’t think he’s acting defensive because he is guilty, he just knows what those cops are capable of.

@glenysnewchurch7957

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

5:10 in literary analysis "like/uh/uhm/so" is referred to as sentence fillers or filler words. In overall speech, it typically reflects someone who's thinking as they speak or anxiety u. If you pay close attention to yourself and others while talking you'll find *everyone* uses them and frequently. So, to me as a specialist in English and literature, his using sentence fillers just means he's thinking and/or nervous. It would be concerning to me, if he _didn't_ use them. Lack of fillers, in this interview, would be indicative of rehearsal and, thusly, that he expected it.

@J.Mesrine-NL

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

Crazy part is in court he said he never talked to her... the man is guilty

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

He also said she didn't show up that day

Hes trying to dilute it because he knows hes being framed because they dont want to give him money for the lawsuit he was in the process of.

I would love to see the interview of his ex

It is such a complicated case. I do feel like Steven is innocent in this case- not a great dude but I don’t think he did it. He has no fingerprints in the car- only blood. Only his DNA is on the key and fabric loop, not Teresa’s why is her DNA not on there? How did colborn know the brand and year of the car if he wasn’t directly looking at it? Why did cadaver dogs lead elsewhere? If Steven killed her why isn’t his blood mixed in with her blood in the back of the car? Her phone pinged away from the salvage yard. She had her planner with her in the car why does Ryan hillegas have it? Why are the bones in different locations and haven’t actually been confirmed to be Teresa.. why was the coroner lady told not to come to the burn pit? and they made sure to label her a disgruntled employee to discredit her in the trial. I think Steven is a difficult read because he would have contempt and disgust that he is being interviewed and that the journalist is doing a on the spot interrogation, I don’t know who killed Teresa, I think the police heavily manipulated the “evidence”, they either know who killed her and are covering or they genuinely think he did it and helped the evidence along to guarantee a conviction. I don’t think the police killed an innocent woman, that’s far fetched, but crazy far fetched shit can happen. I hope we will know one day for sure what exactly happened.

@BarbieBando

3 жыл бұрын

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼💯💯💯

@witchysue5170

3 жыл бұрын

I watched it all last week, to the end of season 2 (when I started to watch ,I thought it was just going to be an hour long documentary, but I got hooked.) I think his new lawyer is great, she's showing how everything was done, & what was possible , & impossible, especially getting his neighbours hard drive and the 100s of hours of vile porn, about killing & mutilating women. the other thing, threatening the coroner with arrest if she went to the site, I mean FFS! But mostly she was meant to be chained to the bed, her throat cut, stomach slashed...were was the blood? it should have been everywhere, looking at the room, there's no way they could have cleaned it up .It seems as dodgy as hell, I think the police took advantage of a missing woman & decided to pin it on him so he wouldn't get the money he was owed for the last time they stitched him up. Also 2 of 3 judges wanted Brendan released, they were the 2 women. one even said Brendans interview made her skin crawl, they went for more judges, men agreed to keep him in jail. my 1st though, male judges..freemasons. anyway thats my tuppence worth. Hopefully, the truth will out in the end

@ThePnost84

3 жыл бұрын

@@witchysue5170 Zellner's case is a joke. Her motions get denied all the time.

@morgan1467

3 жыл бұрын

@@witchysue5170 yeah it is such a complex case. It’s a case that needs more than surface research, because on face value it does seem like he is guilty- her alleged bones in his fire pit a slam dunk for the prosecution but there’s so many inconsistencies, that don’t add up (a body could not burn to bones in an open air bonfire- there were tyres in the bonfire pit that hadn’t even melted, and wouldn’t there be debris from skin on the items in the pit) Teresa left the salvage yard and went to her next appointment with George zipperer, after Avery. It’s soo complicated and I’d say a body language observation of Steven Avery would be apart of the 25% that doesn’t adhere to the body language rules for lack of a better word. He absolutely would be so defensive in his interviews- last time he was in an interview he went to jail for 18 years and the cops didn’t care that they had the wrong guy. Kathleen zellners work is certainly not a joke. Motions are denied not based on the value content of the brief, they just deny because they can. And they don’t want a conviction falling through, it’s admitting that law enforcement got it wrong and they never want to admit wrongful doing, ever.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@morgan1467 _"a body could not burn to bones in an open air bonfire"_ They can actually. Even the arson expert that Zellner hired said so. He said the bones found on Avery's property are physically entirely consistent with what you would expect from such an open air fire. _"there were tyres in the bonfire pit that hadn’t even melted"_ Where did you get that from? There was a black goo covering the contents of the burn pit. All tires had melted. _"and wouldn’t there be debris from skin on the items in the pit"_ Not if the body was reduced to bones, which it was. _"Teresa left the salvage yard and went to her next appointment with George zipperer, after Avery"_ That's just the main suspect's claim. Evidence suggests she never left the property. _"they just deny because they can."_ Her motions were denied because her arguments were far from flawless and because she didn't sufficiently show she would get a different result if a new trial was to be held. _"it’s admitting that law enforcement got it wrong and they never want to admit wrongful doing"_ How did Zellner get to 18 exonerees then?

Why did he say after 18 years of prison I learned my lesson

I love when the caption at the beginning reads " Hey Idiots" instead of idiotes! 😝

I was shooketh when you said guilty😳 the police there are trash he was horribly set up😢

@jayleigh3322

3 жыл бұрын

If you research beyond the documentary you wouldn't be surprised. But yeah, those cops couldn't prove it beyond reasonable doubt because the default should be to mistrust those cops. 😒

@edwinamcmanus5633

3 жыл бұрын

The documentary was biased only giving the view he was innocent never explored the chance he was guilty. Netflix do a lot of one sided documentaries.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwinamcmanus5633 Yes, Making a Murderer, The Staircase, The Confession Tapes. Strange how people still buy all of this and haven't become sceptical of Netflix already.

@edwinamcmanus5633

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM They are terrible.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwinamcmanus5633 Yep

Can you blame the man? He was wrongfully convicted and sent to prison by the system, why wouldn’t he be cautious about his answers? The authorities had good motive for trying to destroy him and get out of paying him million$.

Hi! I was wondering if you could do body language reading for the show "Unsolved Mysteries" (Netflix remake), specially season 1 episode 2 (Patrice Endres case), or for certain episodes of the show in general. Thank you so much for giving us such great content

A man who was in prison for 18 years with a learning disability and a documented low IQ isn't going to have the same mannerisms as a "normal person" you have to take in the facts all the trauma of what he's been through before

Oh Lordy I was thinking this was Steven McDaniel lol 😆.. why Styven, whyyyy? 😂. That TV interview and police interrogation with McDaniel covered by Observe would be epic!

I don’t know if there is visual footage out there, but if there is, you should do Adnan Sayed-his story fascinâtes me, and I constantly find myself going back and forth on that case

He's not trying to dilute it, he has no idea what happened. And, he said when she was done she drive away. So, how would you expect someone to truly feel sorry or sad for a person who they have no idea where or what happened to them.

I’ve watch a few of these body language analysts videos by different people & I really like how you don’t pretend to know exactly what every gesture means like there is no way it could mean anything else than what you say it means like so many of them do. You say it COULD be this or this, etc. i like how you work & how you don’t perceive to know everything.

250k subscribers?! Yesss! 👏🏼 Congrats, well deserved

Just saw an interview with Dr. Phil and JonBenet Ramsey’s brother Burke. Just wondering if you could do a read on him from this interview. I found it very odd.

@randomfamilydavenport

3 жыл бұрын

he did, I just watched it

I'd guess the interviews from the series are available or cost too much, but it would be nice to hear you evaluate the police interrogations

Have you covered 'Making A Murderer 2' with Brendon / Bobby Dassey? Interesting content to review and seeing other potential suspects on the stand, particularly in the last few episodes

Hi Logan, ********THESE BABIES ARE STILL MISSING!!!******** Will you PLEASE take a look at the body language of the adoptive parents whose two little boys, age 3 and 4, went missing? PLEASE? the boys were reported missing on 12/21/20, in California City, California. I don't know if I can post a link, but the names of the boys are Orrin and Orson West. The 13 minute long interview is all over KZread, so I don't think it will be difficult to find. Thanks so much for considering. It's really important, as THEY'RE STILL MISSING!!!.

@SavageMinnow

3 жыл бұрын

*bump bump* (and some extra words to appease the a1gorithm gods)

@SavageMinnow

3 жыл бұрын

Their birth names are Classic and Cincere. Please get the word out! Thank you!

@kristipatterson9952

3 жыл бұрын

@@SavageMinnow Thanks for bumping, Red. I've asked Logan to look into this the last three videos he's posted. Perhaps he's not seeing my comments? I don't know, but those two precious babies are still missing, and something is WAY WRONG with the adoptive parents' interview. I am blind, and am unable to "see" their body language, but I can "hear" something is incredibly sketchy with them. Again, Red, thanks for bumping!!!

@gabbybrooks8092

3 жыл бұрын

Bump

@SavageMinnow

3 жыл бұрын

@@kristipatterson9952 do you have a link to the interview? Maybe pop it down here to save Logan from having to search? Also, lots of ppl watch these vids, so even if he doesn’t see it himself, more of his viewers might see it and mention it again. 💜

I find it fascinating how Netflix can make people believe almost anything.

@joestrutter180

2 жыл бұрын

I find it hard to believe cops can get it very wrong like they did first time around and not properly investigate an actual convicted rapist that was living in the area

Obsessed already 🙌

Once again, awesome video and I just finished watching "Don't f*** With Cats: Hunting An Internet Killer" and am now dying to hear your analysis of it and the behaviour of Luka Rocco Magnotta. ❤️

I don't think he is guilty. He's sueing the county and he knows they have a grudge against him. He is being put on the spot by being questioned on the news. He has to be nervous because the last time something happened to a woman they blamed him and he spent 18 years in prison. He is not especially smart and he probably has a lot of emotional deficits. He is thinking they already think I did it. And what they did to Brandon shows how lowlife and corrupt the police and justice system is in that county. I can't blame him for his lack of empathy or his little eye squints.

I haven't deeply looked into this so correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like he has gone to the point of ending a person's life or dismemberment before. I know he threatened a family member with his weapon, but I haven't heard any evidence of him actually following through or doing something THAT violent like in this case. I'm not sure how smart he is or if he's good at hiding things, but considering he's had some dumb actions in the past, I don't even think he would realize he needed to get rid of all evidence through dismemberment and fire- or be able to clean up enough after doing such. He's definitely not of a sound mind and his past behavior disgusts me.... but I don't know if his random spouts of anger and horrible actions would've gone this far.

@Imtrying_girl

3 жыл бұрын

Most murderers start off with killing small animals. Which he did. If he didn't do this, I think it was in due time that he would've eventually killed a person anyway.

@XCrystiellaX

3 жыл бұрын

@@Imtrying_girl I do notice they kill small animals often, but so do many hunters who aren’t killers (of humans anyways). I know hunters would have a different motive of course, but they’re also likely to see animals differently anyways.

@Imtrying_girl

3 жыл бұрын

@@XCrystiellaX Yeah hunters do it for sport or food or whatever. But violent people hurt small animals (not game) for a sense of power over innocent helpless things.

@XCrystiellaX

3 жыл бұрын

@@Imtrying_girl The issue though is that not all of them do. There are some cruel people who hurt animals for their own entertainment, but they don’t kill people- on the flip side, there are people who don’t ever hurt animals but want to hurt people. Hurting small animals isn’t fully reliable unfortunately.

@Imtrying_girl

3 жыл бұрын

@@XCrystiellaX No it's not an exact science. That's why I said most. When I say murderers I mostly mean serial killers or the like. Not murderers like gang related or "heat of the passion" murders.

Brilliant he shakes his head when explaining everything 😆

NOT GUILTY!! Sending prayers to Steven and Brendan from Denmark 🙏❤️

*I can understand the cold behavior being that he was locked up for 18 years. To me, his disgust, unsure, & cold behavior toward law enforcement and the situation makes total sense. Being in jail makes you hardened. It hardens your heart, it hardens your mind, it hardens your soul... especially when you spent 18 years for something you didn’t do and the SAME people who did you dirty the first time are looking at you AGAIN and not following through with any other leads and lying bout the small stuff... YEAH, that’d be my behavior too. My mom’s empathy completely dissipated after prison.*

Man this is a tough case. I have been so torn. I just don't think he is guilty.

@Persephone549

3 жыл бұрын

I can tell you, I'm staying far from his area of WI. Luckily, I'm a good 2-3 hours from there and never get out that way.

@LuXun-MaM

3 жыл бұрын

Halbach shows up at his doorstep, never heard from again. Nobody hears from her, nobody sees her, her phone goes off after she arrives there. Then her car is found on his property with his blood inside it. Turns out Avery actually had an actively bleeding finger about the time of her disappearance. Coincidence? Cops didn't know that when they allegedly planted the car on his property with the blood in it. Avery could've had an alibi had he gone to work like he did all other days, but he just had to skip work for the first time ever on the day Halbach goes missing and he has never been able to explain why. Coincidence? Her bones are found burned in Avery's fire pit. Turned out Avery actually had a big whoppin fire on the day Halbach goes missing with his nephew, but he tells the cops he was alone and in his trailer the whole night. According to his nephew, Avery never had a bonfire there before. Is it just a coincidence he has his first bonfire there on the day Halbach goes missing? Brendan described a mysterious "red fluid" appearing on the garage floor on the day Halbach goes missing. Yet when the cops ask about their activities on that day they both make no mention of it. They were in need of an alibi were they not?

@brendaredmond4678

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM I hear what you're saying. And you're right. That is too many coincidences. What about the other Avery? Not Brenden but I think his name is Bobby.

@brendaredmond4678

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM It is just very odd that it was proven that he did not commit the crime he had just served time on and in fact was expecting a BIG Lawsuit settlement. Why would he all of a sudden commit a crime this horrific and jeopardize getting that money. Maybe someone else did it and he panicked and helped to cover it up.

@shaunmoroney5130

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuXun-MaM how do you explain the fact that her phone pinged miles away from the asy well after she left. i think your belief that she never left the yard is false

I just read that in the early 80s, he doused his cat with gasoline and threw the cat in the fire, and watched it burn to death. He is a monster!!!!!! That tells me all I need to know about this man.

omg this was awesome, I would love to see your interpretation of Theresa' sketchy ex boyfriend and brother. Their parts in the docuseries was notably so uncomfortable to watch!!

I'm so early no one has seen the end of the video yet.

I think he’s giving facial expressions of guilt because he is paranoid he’ll be painted as guilty again for something he didn’t do. Like someone who had committed a crime, he’s trying to not come off as guilty. But, in his case it’s because he doesn’t want to be wrongfully accused again. Just my opinion.

Yes do the interview with her. I have watched the Netflix series & about to read the books available. It’s such a confusing case & I am following it from Australia

I would actually like to see more on Steven Avery and his ex!! Great job as always!