Title of this video is 100% correct. Awesome job, Bob Costas. I completely agree.

Bruce Bochy letting MadBum finish game 7 seems so much more impressive just 6 short years later...

@halfwaydowntheroad

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, that was amazing and one of the great World Series moments. It definitely feels like 20 years ago.

@dfcintron

2 жыл бұрын

That was a relief outing. The last time a SP finished a WS in the same game he started is Beckett in 2003.

@rockysocky

2 жыл бұрын

@@dfcintron Johnny Cueto pitched a complete game in the 2015 World Series which was 12 years after Beckett

@dfcintron

2 жыл бұрын

@@rockysocky good call. Forgot about johnny.

@andu1854

Жыл бұрын

Now the stats nerds would have thrown a fit

I love this. Costas is a treasure. He oozes passion and knowledge

@ithajean

2 жыл бұрын

The NFL dumped him because of CTE warnings

That was an amazing take. Bob Costas is the 🐐

Bob Costas has the spirit of baseball and the spirit of sports. Analytics does not take that into account. He just nails it in his points in this interview.

Tom Kelly didn’t dare remove Jack Morris in the tenth inning of the seventh game in the 1991 World Series! Go Twins

I agree with every word of this, though I feel compelled to note that when it comes to the lengths of games these days, there's a contributing factor that isn't observed enough--and for obvious reasons. But it hit me not too long ago, when I went back and re-watched Game 7 of the 1986 World Series, which someone had uploaded the complete NBC broadcast of here to KZread--complete with commercial breaks. And the first thing that struck me watching that broadcast again was just HOW MUCH SHORTER those ads breaks were between innings, 30+ years ago. That's not to minimize the usefulness of things like a pitch clock, but that's definitely a significant factor in the increase of game length.

@jyodurron87

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@JoshHarrisPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing with football. They complain about the length of games when you bring up instant replay, but not even the sportswriters mention how the NFL is churning every possible penny it can from advertisers. How many times have they gone to a four- or five-commercial break for an injury when you can see the player start getting up before they cut away?

@derekbury7262

3 жыл бұрын

great observation. Thanks

@jonnuanez2843

3 жыл бұрын

Contracts weren't as high then. Those commercials pay for what the ball player makes.

@wvu05

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshHarrisPhotography I remember the most obscene example of squeezing ad money: watching a game where a team scored a touchdown with 2:01 left, and there was an ad break. Then, another for an extra point. Then, the kick off put it to the two-minute warning, and another commercial! Super Bowl III took just over two hours.

Costas for Commissioner. A few years ago he presented a brilliant idea for how to fix the baseball playoffs too. So sad no one in baseball is listening.

@glenchristenson6308

3 жыл бұрын

IT'S LIKE BABE RUTH IS BATTING NEXT AND THE OTHER TEAM CHANGES PITCHERS AND BRINGS IN A LEFTY ANALYTICS WOULD SAY PUT IN A RIGHTHANDED BATTER? SO THEY WOULD PULL THE BABE! RU KIDDING ME? WHAT HAPPENED TO BB?

@thomasgalvin4069

3 жыл бұрын

What was his idea?

@wvu05

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasgalvin4069 I don't know if he still advocates this, but he wanted to eliminate the wild card so we can actually watch every postseason game instead of toggling back and forth, and giving a bye to the team with the best record, meaning that you either had the best record or you beat the other two division champions to get to the World Series.

@robertoclementeaguirreeliz8315

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasgalvin4069 Costas was outspoken about his disdain for Major League Baseball instituting a playoff wild card. Costas believed it diminishes the significance and drama of winning a divisional championship. He prefers a system in which winning the wild card puts a team at some sort of disadvantage, as opposed to an equal level with teams who outplayed them over a 162-game season. Or, as explained in his book Fair Ball, have only the three division winners in each league go to the postseason, with the team with the best record receiving a bye to the League Championship Series.

@thomasgalvin4069

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertoclementeaguirreeliz8315 Thank you.

The present state of MLB is eerily reminiscent of video game speed running. If you’ve never watched video game speed running, you should check it out. It’s interesting, but not entertaining. All sorts of video game strategies are employed that obviously run counter to point of the game and render it almost unwatchable past a couple minutes (like staring at the ground while running, dropping grenades at your feet to slightly increase your speed, or trying to walk through walls to bypass entire parts of the game). It feels like this is what most MLB clubs have started to do. It’s like a race to see who can make the most boring brand of baseball they can, because they’ve realized it increases their run production by 0.17 a game.

Best take I’ve heard in years.

I can listen to Costas talk baseball all day. 👍🏼

@Johnnyrocks34

2 жыл бұрын

I cant

That was GOLD Jerry....GOLD!!!!

@jyodurron87

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@gman9035

3 жыл бұрын

Why do they call it ovaltine

@MP-tf7cc

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

@justdonut74

3 жыл бұрын

"I'll just have soup"

@5:58 Now I know the fatal flaw with modern relief pitching: Are you telling me starting pitchers will never again pitch past the 7th inning? That can’t be! I’d rather they shorten games to 7 innings! How can you call yourself a HOF’er in any sport if you never finished a game?

This is so perfect. The bit at the end really drives it home.

... or Jack Morris (completing a big game). Even though I was a Braves fan in '91, huge respect to Jack Morris. That's the kind of stuff that makes baseball fun and memorable for me as a kid.

Bob costas is an absolute legend.

Dave Roberts finally wins a World Series because the opposing team was even more slavishly adherent to sabermetrics, analytics than the Dodgers were. Oh, the irony.

@westoftherockies

3 жыл бұрын

@Farmer Larry they only had one run though and one run never beats the dodger's, snell was pitching good but lots of pitchers do for 5 or 6 innings, he wasn't superman, even the best pitchers get tired so he might of went a inning longer but the rays only had one run and the dodger's score half their runs in the 7,8,9th inning, they win half their games after the starting pitcher is taken out, need more than one run to beat the dodger's..they outscored the rays by about 13 runs that series, rays were lucky they had a game 6 to play since the dodger's gave them game 4.

@glenchristenson6308

3 жыл бұрын

NAW THIS TIME ROBERTS WENT WITH HIS GUT!

@mathewphelps9933

3 жыл бұрын

David Roberts has done all he could do.

@acruzro95

3 жыл бұрын

@@westoftherockies though true games 5 and 6 TB played horribly. Cash had horrible management in both games. He never put his best lineup. He puts Margot, Diaz, Arozarena, Choi, Wendle and thats a decent top 5. He fell in love with Meadows and Lowe. Game 6 in confident if he lets snell get out of the 6 pitching to betts and seager, and rays win. Is not the same batting 3 outs away from losing. Same for the opposition. The rays gave the game away.

@marisajensen3004

3 жыл бұрын

But it wasn’t true sabermetrics. Not even looking at the right metric.

If taking Snell out when he was pitching great was scripted, that means the front office undermined their own team.

I guess Madison Bumgarner 2014 game 7 performance wouldn't even happen if his manager was an analytics guy.

@blackhawkswincup2010

3 жыл бұрын

Amen. Bochy was the best at handling his pitchers, and IMHO, best manager ever. I love what Curt Schilling said about him that year: "Only Bruce Bochy could win a World Series with one starting pitcher."

@pomerlain8924

3 жыл бұрын

Or Chris Carpenter's 1-0 complete game shutout in Game 5 of the 2011 NLDS against the Phillies.

@dustman820

3 жыл бұрын

@@pomerlain8924 With Roy Halladay as the Phillies Pitcher in that Game 5. If you would have asked most people, they would have thought Halladay would be winning pitcher in that scenario.

@woodside4life

3 жыл бұрын

@@pomerlain8924 Absolutely. Another good one.

@jamesanthony5681

3 жыл бұрын

Or Jack Morris for the Twins in 1991.

The famous Game 6 of the '75 series was 12 innings and played in 4 hours. The average time of the '21 WS was 4 hours without any extra inning games.

This was beautiful.

Now that's a great soliloquy about the sport. Costas has a PhD in baseball

Love Bob Costas, love Strat-o-matic. Ergo, best video ever.

Statistical probably DOES NOT guarantee wins in baseball games. The difference between middle of the road, good and great players is this: Great players hot streaks last longer and slumps are shorter than average players. And THAT is what managers manage and strategies to.

@kokoken1

3 жыл бұрын

I'll carry that parallel to NFL officiating in the playoffs, when the league builds "all-star" crews. In the 2018 season, Gary Cavaletto ranked in the top three among side judges and earned his assignment to the NFC Championship. And yet everyone knows what happened in that game: Cavaletto kept the flag in his pocket when the Rams' defender flat-out mauled the Saints' receiver. My point: Just because a player or an official has been consistent doing or nor doing something all season doesn't mean he'll produce as expected the next time a particular situation arises. We're human. Blake Snell is, and Gary Cavaletto is. That's why Jim McKay, of "ABC Wide World of Sports," famously called it "the HUMAN drama of athletic competition."

@whywelovefilm7079

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not just about statistical probability. It’s the fact that the Rays have played like that the entire Season. Kevin Cash has used that strategy all year and not only did it win games but it got them to the World Series. And now people expect him to just abandon that strategy in Game 6 of the World Series? Why? Just because one of his Pitchers was doing well? That was a 50/50 call. It’s easy to criticize in hindsight. If it would’ve worked everyone would be calling him a genius. SMH. Game 6 of the World Series and you expect him to just change his entire strategy around. A strategy that got him to the World Series. 😂😂😂 People these days I swear...

@qp1539

3 жыл бұрын

If u really look at all the analytics, past just the pitcher, this still does not make sense in any way

Longtime baseball fan with statistics background. Its application of stats, when a starter is in groove, keep him in. Stats are skewed by medium to bad starts after 3rd time through lineup. Snell's style with 4 pitches also factors into this. It was a clear mistake.

Coming from someone who grew up in the steroid era. Baseball was my favorite sport. I was obsessed with the mid-late 90s Seattle Mariners as a kid. I haven’t watched a game in 2 seasons. It really sucks to have your favorite game taken away from you. It’s literally insane what they’ve done to this once beautiful game. Not even just the analytics. The new bush league rules have just murdered it for me.

Very well said. I always appreciate Costas his knowledge and approach.

When they took that pitcher out...I knew the Dodgers just won

Here is something no one talks about regarding the lengths of games and economics. First off, one of the main reasons games are so much longer than ever is the elimination of foul ball territory. There are now seats where routine pop-ups used to be outs. The only real exception to this is in Oakland, one of the poorest fan bases in baseball. The reason there are seats there instead of field is because owners are aware of fans wanting to be closer to the action AND owners are willing to do anything that puts more revenue in place.....mainly their pockets. Less field, outs become foul balls instead and it now takes forever to get someone out. Secondly, organizations are learning that paying middle relievers is less expensive than paying starting pitchers. This strategy works to leverage down salary during negotiations. Why pay someone 25 million a year when I can pay three guys 5 million a year each to do the same job and be just as or close to or maybe even a little better and get the same results. Thirdly, Isn't it in your best interest as an organization to have the games go longer rather than shorter? Don't you generate money from people being at the ballpark longer rather than shorter? Don't you receive more revenue from advertising the longer the game continues? Meanwhile, as a public relations ploy, as an organization we will continue to publicly lament how long the games are and put in little give backs to make it appear as though we're doing something , like pitch clocks or trips to the mound. If they really wanted to shorten the game they could easily, simply expand the strike zone according to the book, letter high strikes instead of anything above the belt being a ball. The organizations are not going to do anything of any substance to shorten the game simply because it is not in their economic best interest to do so.

@jimschwandt8089

3 жыл бұрын

What you wrote is both: A: Terribly depressing; and B. The absolute truth

@bl3313

3 жыл бұрын

Outfield fences, especially to center field, used to be deeper. Think of Tiger Stadium, old Yankee Stadium (with the monuments), Polo Grounds, Forbes Field.

Analytics need to be paired with the flow of the game. Analytics doesn’t take the actual energy of the game into its formula.

@dougdrazga4461

3 жыл бұрын

Both good points. I'm afraid a lot of analytics folks aren't fans of the game itself. I've seen stories calling for the end of spring training and the minor leagues because, hey, just look at the numbers.

Strat O Matic reference. Awesome!

I’m loving how many pro-analytics people like Bob and like myself for that matter we’re horrified by the move.

@h0gwartz

3 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way when Greinke was pulled last year

Bob is absolutely right about the complete game aspect of pitchers now. I found a website detailing the active wins leader for pitchers and found as you go down the list, the fewer complete games you see out of pitchers. Guys like Verlander as an example are one of the rare guys left that can pitch a whole game. In fact of the active pitchers, there are just 23 100 game winners right now (not including Big Sexy he hasn't signed with a team in a while) and I see that list dwindling in the next 10 years. How man of those 100 game winners completed multiple upon multiple games? Not many. It's getting to the point where imho there's going to be a manager who rotates pitchers in and out every 3 innings. Wins and losses won't even matter anymore for pitchers, let alone complete games and saves. Because the way they go through pitchers is just getting ridiculous now. In a way they're not only tiring out their pitchers faster by playing more games, they're exposing their pitchers more to film as opposed to a starter/ace. the 2019 season saw an MLB record for blown saves altogether by the league. Teams are adjusting to this! How many closers can we say are elite now with all these blown saves? How many walk-offs happened in 2019? I understand sabremetrics during the regular season, for sure, but come playoff time when each game means more and more, just let the guys play.

He broke it down perfectly

If the base hit dies, baseball dies.

@BogWraith1

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly stated in only 7 words Charlie. Succinct and right to the point!

@andu1854

Жыл бұрын

Baseball is already dying and is a regional sport at best

I expect Roy Halladay is spinning in his grave; imagine a Jay or Philly manager coming out that soon with a hook in a shutout game.

@OpinionatedPeach

3 жыл бұрын

@Andrew The Don Bring a link

@Abeja1225

3 жыл бұрын

@@OpinionatedPeach go watch Jom Boys breakdown of it. Snell does better 3rd time around for both the 2019 and 2020 season. Mookie actually does worse his 3rd time from his season stats too. All analytics pointed to keeping Snell in. The only thing against it was that it was the third time in the lineup

Amazing stuff

In my opinion one of the main reasons for game length is the commercials. 2 minutes of commercials between 1/2 innings that’s 38 mins of commercials without any pitching changes! Now add pitching changes... even if each team only brings in 3 pitchers (not likely to be that few) you now have another 12 mins of commercials at least. This is the albatross around the game

There's always been analytics in baseball. Statistics like batting average, home runs, earned run average etc. have driven the way teams and managers evaluate players. The difference now is that the statistical tools are better.

Good God well said -- I was screaming when he pulled Snell -- they deserved to lose for that call,

I'm applauding at home!

Hey Bob- excellent job.

NOBODY breaks it down like Bob Costas

Agree 100%. I'm a Dodger fan, so Kevin Cash is one of my favorite guys these days. I am thrilled for Dave Roberts. A great guy, very good manager, Dodgers deserved this one. 2017 was crushing, I definitely feel the Dodgers got cheated out of that series. 2018 less so, the Red Sox were just better that year than the Dodgers. Last year was tough because I think the Dodgers were better than the Nationals. At least they lost to the eventual champion. So finally it worked out this year. Baseball is toughest championship to win, so many variables in the outcome. And happy for Tommy Lasorda, another great Dodger.

@tonylaughlin6663

3 жыл бұрын

An Vin Scully too. Glad they were both around to see another Dodger championship!!

Bob was a great Baseball announcer and knows the game

Dude just blew my mind.

Rays manager for dodgers mvp of the series.

Analytics work in the long run. A World Series game is the ultimate short run. It works, until it doesn't

@NAKeaveny

3 жыл бұрын

Every strategy works until it doesn't

Perfect take

As an A’s fan, all BillyBall/Sabermetrics has brought the team has been good regular seasons that gets the team to the playoffs and that’s it. Get rid of analytics, get rid of batters taking 30 secs out of the box between pitches, and get rid of 3 min commercials.

@royrowland5763

2 жыл бұрын

Good regular seasons that they would have struggled to have without Sabermetrics. Their use alone does not bring championships, but they can at least put a team in the conversation.

The analytics don’t actually support pulling snell out at this point either. Dude pitches statistically better against 3rd at bats than 2nd

@OpinionatedPeach

3 жыл бұрын

Bring a link or save us some reading pls

@teddykgb89

3 жыл бұрын

@@OpinionatedPeach watch jomboys breakdown

@tommyers477

3 жыл бұрын

you are incorrect. his own numbers support this. idk what analytics you're quoting here.

@acruzro95

3 жыл бұрын

@@tommyers477 maybe one is looking at OPS and the other at ERA or avg.

@jamesanthony5681

3 жыл бұрын

Snell pitches better with more success the 3rd time around against those Dodger hitters?

bravo Bob, Bravo!!!

This was a good video

I'm a pitcher and I love numbers. Analytics are important in baseball just like they are in anything else in life. But whatever analytics said pull Snell there were straight up wrong. Cash should be fired for such stupidity. I was pulling for the Rays in that game but once Cash took him out I wanted the Dodgers to teabag Cash.

Analytics is taking all the fun out of baseball and will the be the death of it if something doesn't change.

@genius179

3 жыл бұрын

It really has. I dislike the shifts, the three true results, less stolen bases, and It just takes too long with all the pitching changes.

@ClassicalCentral

3 жыл бұрын

@@genius179 I don't mind the shift. It's the fault of a batting coach and a player if they can't teach or learn such a professional fundamental as hitting the other way. Even in little league, our coach tried to teach us that. Everything else I do agree with, though. What I also hate is the over-commercialization of baseball, how there is such a long lull between half-innings full of ads and other stuff no one cares about. I understand that baseball needs to make its money, but all those sponsorships and ads make the television experience of baseball lethargic and a slog.

@genius179

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClassicalCentral I agree like the stat guys have made the product worse to me at a time where there is so much talent in the big markets, like NY, CHI, and LA. They have fun teams with young players, MLB try to market some of them. Manfred does not have a good plan, if any, to make MLB more popular.

Im 68 years old and have watched baseball all my life, I saw Gibson pitch, and Koufax and Whitey and The Unit and The Express, Cash shouldn't have pulled Snell.

@darwinblinks

3 жыл бұрын

you never saw Seaver pitch?

@joebarr725

3 жыл бұрын

@@darwinblinks I'm also 68 and saw Seaver pitch several times. I recall one game against the Dodgers when Seaver came up with the bases loaded in the 8th inning of a 1-1 tie. He was allows to bat and delivered a base hit.

I am SF Giants fan and their three titles they were dead last in homers and yet I would take those teams. That pitching staff and the timely hits over the swing for a home run,

Another problem with the Sabermetrics "takeover" is that teams are compelled to use the exact same approach to playing the game and developing a roster, since all organizations (from top to bottom) now accept that this approach is theoretically more likely to be successful. There is no tolerance for alternate approaches, so there is less diversity of playing styles. Part of the fun was watching if one style could prevail over the other, the moves/countermoves, and the adjustments made. Now all teams are converging to the same style, and it's less interesting.

Costas mentioned Game 7 of 1960 WS played in 2:36. Analytics have led to paralysis by analysis. Incidentally, there were NO strikeouts in that game.

@Il_Exile_lI

3 жыл бұрын

Also, back then 1/4 of the game time wasn't taken up by TV commercial breaks. Inning transitions were less than a minute, now we wait three minutes for the network to play a bunch advertisements.

It's tough being smart, knowledgable, interesting, and 100% correct, but Bob Costas pulls it off year after year.

Absolutely Mr. Costas. Analytics also do not tell you how smart a player is, especially defensive stats.

Bob Gibson would have laid his manager out if he was being lifted in that situation!

@danacoleman4007

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if there's a man that ever lived that would be brave enough to go out and tell Bob Gibson he's done for the day in a situation like that.

analytics can only tell you what happened. they can't tell you WHY it happened.

Bob is a legend 🖒

Kevin Cash made a typical analytics-driven mistake. Analytics are statistics. They are more accurate the larger the sample size. A long baseball season is a great sample size for a statistical analysis. That is not the same as the analysis needed for one game. A statistical pre-season plan for what you have to do to win 95 games is very different than what you have to do to win today’s game. Analytics aren’t designed to provide strategy for a single game. Common mistake..

@mhstrawn5217

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. My problem with the way analytics are often used is they largely capture AVERAGES over long periods of time. But no situation is an "average" situation. Many Twitter analysts fail to grasp this simple reality and rigidly adhere to "what the analytics tell us". Frankly I'm happy it blew up in the Rays faces because it shows the downside of such rigid thinking. Of course the analytics guys will chalk it up to "good process, bad result", because that's the rational they use whenever things go sideways.

@timsmith1033

3 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 I can't 💯 i can't 💯 the comment enough. Im not a fan of analytics but I always found it dumb to apply the season analytics to the postseason which is a small sample size that is often dramatically influenced by human nature things like, pressure to preform, emotional momentum swings for example.

@rapid13

3 жыл бұрын

This right here. Stats are great over the long term. They don’t truly apply in single game situations. Basically, you’re playing probability. That’s all.

@timsmith1033

3 жыл бұрын

@@rapid13 thats exactly why I say WTF at some of these manger decisions in the playoffs. Im old school AF but im appreciate analytics in large samples sizes

@NAKeaveny

3 жыл бұрын

This doesn't make any sense. Any choice you make in baseball will fail sometimes and succeed in others. It's about picking the choice that gives you the best chance at success. Why would that change in a single game?

statistics and thus advanced statistics are important, but never trump the Human issue! edit: feel like maybe someone should explain that Strat-o-matic is the paper version of MLB The Show... ;)

2:07 best.....quote......ever about sports today

You have to learn the rules, so you can know when to break them. The second part of what he says is even more accurate. Pro sports are not sports in the “pure” sense they are sports entertainment.

Live by the sword die by the sword type of situation if you ask me. Correct me if I’m wrong but no Rays starter went a full 6 innings the whole postseason.

Costas telling it like it is 👍 I had been patiently waiting the past 12 years for the Rays to get back into the World Series. And to lose it like this, is heartbreaking. Computers compute, but human beings have a spirit, drive, determination, and pride, which computers do not. Who cares what the statistics have to say. If a guy is pitching lights out and the other team can't figure him out, screw your analytics. Have they ever heard of the term "Having Heart" Even Mookie Betts said the Dodgers were expecting a game 7 the way Snell was pitching. But naturally our analytics department thought differently. Why don't they just develop robotic players, program them with all the analytic information they need, and let them play, if you're not going to even consider the human element anymore. It used to be, "You gotta have Heart. Now "Heart" counts for nothing. Because it's not only Sports, It's the Music industry also. It's mostly computerized musical crap, with little, and in many cases, NO human element, except for the vocals, and their auto-tuned LOL

@scythermantis

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I feel your pain as a Rays fan since '01 when my dad took me to the Trop. That sucked.

@gp2860

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, you’re mistaken. You saw the human element at play when the manager blew his load and pulled Snell. The analytics said to keep snell in, the analytics said the right hander was gonna get killed, the analytics had nothing to do with Cash’s awful decision, it’s odd to me that no one is looking at the actual analytics, but listening to the bonehead Cash’s interpretation of the analytics and then blaming the analytics....

@mtp4430

3 жыл бұрын

@@gp2860 Sadly, it's you who's mistaken. The analytics showed that Snell was less effective the third time through the lineup and that's why Cash removed him. The move was totally motivated by analytics.

When a baseball manager makes a move that the other team is thrilled to see, chances are it is a bad move.

Minor baseball games take 2:20-2:30 time wise, heck you get the Sox and Yankees and it's 3:30-3:40 each game.

Can someone please explain to me what the hell analytics is the in mlb. I’ve been watching baseball for more than 20 years and I’m still confused at how it works

I Love Baseball.

Best.Rant.Ever

Guys a national treasure.

That explanation made my jay drop. Make baseball great again!

I agree with every single thing he said

A video that aged like fine wine. Gotta love it. 2023 Blue Jays pull their starter in the 4th that was dealing. It is revealed again after Buck Showalter's firing that he is pushed to have certain people in the lineup, namely Voglebach, which no doubt contributed to several losses. But we still call for firing managers as if it is ALL on them and they will take the fall every time until the next guy comes in and does the same thing. Like Costas said, it is a great tool and can work on a macro level, but these are people, not video game characters. Sometimes I wonder if too many of these analytics people think MLB the Show is real life. Lol.

Costas is of course 100% correct. Too much of anything is too much no matter how wonderful it may be.

I’d like to see a game between the bats and gloves. One team can only use their bats. The other team can only use their gloves. It would be eye opening

What do they say....the first out in the inning is the most important out...Snell got the lead off batter and then gave up a bloop single....his second of the game and got hooked.....UNBELIEVABLE!!...this was an ELIMINATION game for the RAYS...he should have gone at least one more batter.

The conscience of the game.

Costas killed it.

Justin Verlander has the last complete game in the playoffs and that was in 2017. The third time through the order stuff is true for the league on a whole. But elite pitchers are elite the third time through the order. Always have been, always will be.

They ruined a moment in baseball history. Even if he gives up the runs. We don’t know what would have happened. Numbers say Mookie would have strikeout.

@pomerlain8924

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. If you take away a pitcher's chance to succeed or fail, how will you know what he's capable of? Give him the chance to show you. Don't take it away from him because you're worried what MIGHT happen.

Could you imagine trying to use Randy Johnson the way the 1995 Mariners did in today’s game?

@joebarr725

3 жыл бұрын

His agent would probably file a grievance.

Wish Bob would do my eulogy

Legions of relievers isn't the fault of statistics, Bob...the concept of fresher arms being able to deliver their best stuff and therefore their best opportunity for K's is to blame for that dynamic. He may be right about everything else, and statistics may be one point of persuasion in the decision to go to the bullpen, but it isn't the only factor by a long shot. He is right that the dynamic harms the pace.

Bob Costas needs to be commissioner.

The unequivocal broadcast legend...Bob Costas.

I love you Bob Costas. Can we engineer a coup and get Bob to be the Commish?

Analytics will be the last nail in the coffin for the game of Baseball. It all started with the DH!!!

I thought they fix the pace of play thing

Facts.

Bob Costas over Joe Buck in baseball and football!

A pitchers used cap of 3 would improve the game immensely, increase the length of starts, and make multi inning relief appearances the norm. After 9 innings I’d remove the cap. Essentially you’re forcing the teams to adopt old school pitching tactics.

God bless Bob Costas

Costas would be the best commish

The best.