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BNP Leader Nick Griffin: 'I'm not anti-Muslim, I'm anti-Islam'
The British National Party leader Nick Griffin tells 5 live's Nicky Campbell the BNP's view on Islam's place in the UK.
In response to a British Muslim caller accusing him of anti-Muslim sentiment, Griffin stated he had read the Koran and believed it to be 'not a religious book, but a manual for conquering other people's countries'.
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Nick is totally and utterly right.
@clairefrier2353
2 жыл бұрын
He’s totally and utterly wrong.
@stopthewave3907
7 ай бұрын
@@clairefrier2353hahaha roll on 2024 he's not wrong at all
Nick is a 100% right plain & Simple
@the_red_barron1002
4 жыл бұрын
No hes not.
@blancmull3886
4 жыл бұрын
AslamひZain ひ says the person who follows a guy who raped an 8 year old
@mblack422
Жыл бұрын
@@the_red_barron1002 read the koran
@robertoneill6473
Жыл бұрын
@@the_red_barron1002 tell that to the gay community
NICK GRIFFIN a man who cares about his country and its tradtions, your a hero and your getting my vote [x]
Sorry, but I 100% agree with everything Nick Griffin said there. I don't have anything against Muslim people, or Islam, but it is fundementally wrong for any religion to command their followers to try and implement their religion on a country/ area that doesn't follow it. Absolutely wrong. Britain is NOT an Islamic country, and those who want to move and live here should integrate with the community and traditions of the country, not try to implement their own traditions on it. That is fundementally wrong. If a load of Christians went to an Islamic country, and tried to implement Christianity, their fucking head would be on a pike before they knew it. How fucking wrong is that. Double standards at it's best. What an absolute disgrace
@kevinchamberlain7928
9 жыл бұрын
If you believe, then do not apologise. Not that I agree but your view is as valid as the next mans, so never apologise for your beliefs.
@adammarshall7678
7 жыл бұрын
DavidRM18 SPOT ON m8
@Ardass486
7 ай бұрын
100%
Nick is spot on.....
I don't think that the UK should completely stop immigration but only allow people to live here if they can afford it and actually contribute to the country like in Australia.
Well said nick
yep , with Nick on this one.
You know... Funnily enough, myself as a Muslim I don't believe in imposing my values on others nor do I aim to compromise ANY part of Islam. Therefore, I would like to leave this country for my Islamic Utopia and until I do won't break any laws here. I believe that separation is a good idea with no hard feelings and future business ties (perhaps) so as long as we are not "de-Islamified" or that we pose the same threat.
I'm not English and I agree with him. He is against the war in the Middle East so don't you think if he didn't like Muslim people in general that he would condone and encourage attacks in the Middle East by his own people? His point should be applied to al nationalities in all countries who try to change the culture and values of a country they have migrated to. Show some respect to the culture of the country that has taken you in.
Sorry buddy, you're wasting your time by quoting the Bible to me, I'm not a Christian, I don't have a religion. But nice try. Anyway, back to the Quran, which is what we were talking about before you randomly changed the subject. The Quran DOES curse Jews and Christians and it DOES call disbelievers the "worst of creatures", I've already given you the specific verses. Stop denying it.
I'm pro BNP!
Typical response. If anyone ever criticizes Islam, Muslims just go "you're taking it out of context". Go on then, give me the "correct" context. Does Surah 9:30 not say that Allah "curses" the Jews and Christians? Does Surah 98:6 not say that the disbelievers are the "worst of creatures"?
Good old nick griffin he says it like it is.
I love the BNP!!!
As allways well said Nick. Vote BNP.
urm when non-white people get sent back to their countries, what happens to mixed race people who are half white? do the BnP cut them in half n send the non white part half back??!! lol.. Come ON BNP please wke up because U are 2 L8!! the world is Full ov love!!
No, Allah is cursing Jews and Christians in verse 9:30, it literally says "May Allah destroy them" or "Allah's curse be on them", depending on the translation. That's what the verse actually says.
Caller was an idiot
@kocktoe Nick Griffin is an admirer of Adolf Hitler, but doesn't say it in public, because if he did, he would lose votes. He is an extreme right wing nationalist, who believes that white Britons should have more rights than non-whites, irrespective if they are British or not. He is also an anti-zionist, just like many other extreme right wing nationalists. He is anti-islamic, in terms of ideology and believes it should not be present in Britain.
It's a tricky one, I like Muslims but am scared of what an Islamic block would do to this country especially funded by Saudi Arabia and Pakistan
christianity also states a lot of bad things in the bible like encouraging slavery and has some quite homophobic things in it but i know christians that follow the good values the bible promotes just as i know muslims who follow the good values promoted by the koran (apologies for mispelling), every religion and belief system has it flawes but there are a lot of people who are religious that are really good people because of their religion
ahh but does it have any verses that say the opposite ..( it does) and if show do you reconcile both of the commands ( it must be context) and so what then is the context of each of the versus of love and verses of animosity ? who are there referring to ..whole nations , groups communities individuals and therefore what lessons should be learnt..??? people who chop up a book and claim scholarly points as there own without academic study shouldn't speak but should listen!!. but please,do ask!!!
Verse 9:30 says anyone who believes that Jesus is the son of god is cursed by Allah, so the Quran curses every Christian on the planet. Whether or not you *personally* believe that Jesus claimed to be the son of god is irrelevant. Verse 98:6 says that the disbelievers are the "worst of creatures", when it says "people of the scriptures" (or "ahl al-kitab" in the original Arabic) it's specifically referring to Jews and Christians. So it's saying Jews and Christians are the "worst of creatures".
@kocktoe White nationalists are anti-zionist and anti-jewish, just like the Palestinians !! Any so called white nationalist who doesn't like islam, only doesn't like it, because its ideology does not support a racial identity. Islam does not promote a racial identity. In fact white nationalists support Palestinians, but hate islam. It's the ideology and not the people. Nick Griffin won't say in public against jews, because he's got a political party, which needs to do well in UK elections.
@GeertWildersLoyalist No probs, I've seen your videos and I like them as well, even though I might not necessary agree with them, but they do have valid points. I see your a Geert Wilders supporter, but he has more sympathy with UKIP than the BNP. After all Geert is a close friend of Lord Pearson, the UKIP leader. Interesting to know what you think of that !!!
@MultiShampain. My point was in relation to this video is that nobody should be generalising about anyone because of their religion as nick griffin does. saying basically that muslims cannot live in a democracy because their religion is against it.to be honest most religion undermines democracy hence why i choose not to follow any religion. and i do know many muslim people who are decent people. you get bad people in all walks of life, religious or not religious.
Sikhs would never join BNP! This guy is causing problems for no reasons!
I wish people like you was in charge of power
Why do people insist on dividing themselves? What is a muslim other than a human stating, I'm a muslim. I think people can identify as they choose, but why choose to identity with Islam? The terrorists use Islam as reason to spread violence. No body would even pay attention to Islam if there was no violence. So I think good people will just identify as being human, not muslim ,jew or Christian. If they choose to exclude themselves from normal people, get ready for the ridicule. No one feels sorry for your illusion and dillusional mind. Islam is a simple idea pulled from thin air, and is violent on top of that. Social proof makes people believe in strange ideas.
@GeertWildersLoyalist You seem to forget there are Muslims who are majority in Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (Only Turkey recognises that state) and parts of Turkey, which are in geographical Europe. The last time I looked in a map, those places were in Europe !!! The muslim people in those places have been in Europe since the middle ages - most are indigenous Europeans who were converted either by the threat of violence, taxation (jaziya) or free will !!
He says that Islam says that to be harsh to you're neighbours. It says be nice to you're neighbours before yourself , but of course you will believe him, even when you have not layer you're eyes on the Quran.
@kocktoe Well white nationalists have different opinions in their own branch. For example, muslims have different opinions on elections. Hamas has no problem in taking part in Palestinian elections, but groups such as Al Qaeda would consider elections as un-islamic.
@BwolfTheWolf just because people are giving their opinion doesn't make them a twat. After all Nick Griffin has said can you blame people for calling him a douchebag?
Why is this?Griffin is stating the facts and they seem not so palatable now but if islam will get stronger i hope we won`t regret being so free with them,i`m not a BNP supporter but they do have points and the right to free speech
@Dave C not true mate, I have been to alot of Muslim countries more freedom than here.
Supportin Mr. Griffin all the way. Muslim People are mostly nice People, but they believe in Allah who never existed, full stop.
@CrankCase08
6 жыл бұрын
Yep. He was by lightyears a better leader of the BNP than the current bumbling idiot.
The worst of creatures can be even Muslims because they may be Muslim by name but not in the heart. ALLAH is all just and just because a Muslim believes in him dosent mean ALLAH will give him paradise, the individual has to do good deeds, has to pray, treat others in the best way, help the poor, serve Almighty God.
No, the fact that the Quran (and the Bible) contains contradictory verses within it just proves that the book is imperfect and man-made.
@GeertWildersLoyalist Well your comment "if we had our heads screwed on decades ago, no Muslims would have been born in the UK, or Europe", does not make sense, because there are muslims who have been living in Europe since the middle ages !!!! You need to think before you write comments !!!!!
@sillybananaz personally i think religion in itself has problems so thats why i dont follow any religion but i will criticise anyone that generalises a religion and says that because islam has negative aspects in the koran that means everyone that follows islam is a bad person
@MultiShampain. Firstly i have stated in earlier posts that I am agnostic, so please dont call me a christian. "the old testiment is the jewish part that promotes all the evil stuff like revenge". what has that got to do with me commenting on a video about nick griffin generalising about muslim people?. sounds like your a bit anti semitic there. I agree with you on the last part that a lot of people dont understand some of the stuff in the religious book they follow and ignore the bad stuff
@sillybananaz as i said before christianity preaches a lot of negative things. if everyone followed absolutely everything that their religious book tells them then we wouldnt have the modern world we have today so my point is that people like nick griffin just look at negative aspects of islam and say that is what islam is about but clearly there are many muslims who do not follow everything in the koran that are very good people and they choose to ignore the negative aspects which they should
@Dave C nope mate sorry to burst your bubble go to an Islamic county before being racist.
wow...that might be one of the only things nick griffin has ever said that I thoroughly agree with. he might be a racist in terms of race legitimately (or at least he definitely was in the past and probably still is) but in terms of the terrible and intolerant ideology of islam, he nailed it on the head. it's a shame he's a racist, though.
Is Griffin still alive?
@ayazmohammed9110
11 ай бұрын
Yes he’s still alive and well
@mr.thegreat557
3 ай бұрын
Indeed he is.
I read somewhere the koran mentioned's Jesus 30 times and 'mohammed' 4 times.
@ahmetselimsavi2217
5 жыл бұрын
They both prophets according to kuran
@kocktoe Yes I did ;)
Chatting bullshit at 2:37,
What the fuck is this
@mr.thegreat557
3 ай бұрын
That’s Nick Griffin, the Godfather of British Nationalism.
You said "The Qur'an has never commanded anyone to kill others without reason or not to love your neighbours." But the Quran says, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves" (Al-Fath 48:29).
a muslim is a person who follows islam.(fact) which means Nick is thicker than i am. feel a bit better now.
@defeatfacism bollocks
"it [the Quran] says put Ur wifes before yourself" No it doesn't. The Quran says you can hit your wife if she behaves arrogantly (verse 4:34), it says women are "tilth" that you may fertilize as you please (2:223), and it says men are a "degree above" women in rights (2:228). "and to love your neighbor before yourself" Nope, the Quran says you should fight disbelievers until they are "subdued" (9:29) and that you may be "harsh" to the disbelievers (48:29).
Nick, I implore you to read the Qur'an with an open heart. Nowhere does it say to tree your neighbours harshly. On the contrary Muslims are to look after their neighbours. As for imposing your beliefs on others that is again forbidden as the Qur'an states there shall be no compulsion in religion. “We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” 5:48. As you can see God created us all differently and with different beliefs. Lastly Muslims are to treat non Muslims with respect: “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” 60:8.
@amst4cey
7 жыл бұрын
Take your taqiyya elsewhere. Islam is the religion of war, not peace!
@iby914
7 жыл бұрын
You're a complete and utter moron Tony. Go take your hate filled paranoia elsewhere you delusional twit.
@amst4cey
7 жыл бұрын
Really? Islam teaches that to disagree with or even reinterpret the Koran’s 6000 odd verses, organized into 114 chapters or Suras and dealing as fully with law and politics as with matters of faith, is punishable by death. Islamic authorities of all the major branches of Islam hold that the Koran must be read so that the parts written last override the others. This so-called theory of abrogation means that the ruling parts of the Koran are those written after Muhammad went to Medina in 622 A.D. Specifically, they are Suras 8 and 9, which are not the Suras containing the verses often cited as proof of Islam’s peacefulness. Sura: 8:12 "I will strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers so cut off their heads, cut off every fingertip of them" 8:39 "Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme" 8:67 " It is not for any prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land" 9:2:3 Allah will humble the unbelievers, Allah and his apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshippers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers" 9:5 "When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere for them" 9:28 " Believers know that idolaters are unclean" Al-Bukhari Vol 8, Book 82, Hadith 795 “The prophet cut off the hands and feet of the men belonging to the tribe of Uraina.” Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 4, Book 53, Hadith 392 “You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and his apostle, and I want to expel you from this land.” Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 4, Book 53, Hadith 386 “Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you until you worship Allah alone...” Sura 5:51 "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." Sura 9:12 "...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." Sura 9:27 "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." Sura 9:121 "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them These are but a very, very tiny fraction of the numerous injunctions that Islam's followers are obliged to conform to regarding the level of "tolerance" they are permitted to extended to people who do not accept Islam. Islam is the most dangerous of the three Abrahamic religions and for the sake of the preservation of the remnants of occidental civilization Islam should be proscribed on the grounds of its intolerance of other faiths. If Islam is not contained we will eventually see ladies stoned in Britain if accused of adultery or being lashed to the point of death for having been the victims of rape! Other uncivilized Islamic practises such as the cutting off of hands and feet will also come with Sharia. While on the subject, if one views the decalogue (Ten Commandments) we see the savage origins of the basis of Sharia Please do not construe this as an attack but rather see it as a dire warning to any who might be deceived into thinking Islam equals peace and tolerance in a universal fraternal brotherhood that has, or affords any remote semblance of respect or tolerance for those who do not accept the teachings of Islam.
@iby914
7 жыл бұрын
"Really?" Yes really. You and I know you haven't read the Qur'an in its entirety or bothered to read the tafsirs regarding those particular verses. Because if you did you would know those verses were targeted at a certain people at a certain time in history. Take the verse about smiting fingers and necks. If you read the verses preceding and following that one, you would know it was the ANGELS who were ordered to smite the fingers and the necks. That's one example. But anyway, nice cut and paste job. It's a shame you can't formulate your own views and ideas but take it from other people instead. As for Islam being the most dangerous of all the Abraham ic faiths you may want to pick up the Bible. Now then, where shall we start? There's so much to choose from. Let's start with these explicit orders given by God to carry out genocide. "So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan." Judges 21: 10- 24. Also what about the order God gave to Moses with regards to the Midianites? How he was ordered to tell his men to kill all men and boys and women who were not virgins. But to save the virgins and young girls for their war captives to rape as they pleased? "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Numbers 31:17-18. Now if God is Jesus and vice versa it was Jesus who ordered Moses to carry out this genocide. Not so compassionate as you make out huh? I'll provide you with many more extreme cases cruelty and barbarism found in the Bible. We have rape, women subjugation, incest, out right pornographic verses, murder, theft the list goes on. Oh but Muslims, Muslims are so evil aren't they? You may want to consider that saying about glass houses.
@amst4cey
7 жыл бұрын
You are wrong, the verses are open ended, they put no time limit on the actions but leave it there for perpetuity. As for the bible, the same theory of abrogation applies here too. So the New Testament overrides the Old Testament with a new covenant. Tell me, yes or no, does Satan lie?
They all need to be removed one way or another.
Wow some people on here are so ignorant. The Qur'an has never commanded anyone to kill others without reason or not to love your neighbours. In fact, the original teachings of Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Christianity are very similar. All you need to do is read them in context and understand some of the metaphorical meanings. Don't take verses of the Qur'an out of context!
Nick Griffin read the Quran but did not understand it. Why doesn't he go to a scholar to understand the extracted meanings of the Quran? This is called the Tafseer. Without understanding Tafseer you cannot understand the the Quran. Every verse in the Quran has a meaning, one short verse can have up to 20 pages of Tafseer.
Lol first of all, ALLAH isnt cursing in that verse. He is saying how deluded are the people that they Ezra is the son of ALLAH and that Jesus is son of ALLAH. When ezra or Jesus never claimed to be the sons of God and the people say that they are, then it is clearly a delusion. So ALLAH isnt cursing :) Secondly you have taken it out of context as the context of being harsh towards disbelievers is in a state of war as the Chapters name is the victory lol :)