BMW X3 vs Mercedes GLC: Which is best? VOTE BELOW!

@carwow

Жыл бұрын

VOTE: BMW X3!

@carwow

Жыл бұрын

VOTE: Mercedes GLC!

@YouTubeUserLol

Жыл бұрын

X1!!!

@ShauryaSingh-ec9rm

Жыл бұрын

merc

@MILKYBAR1969

Жыл бұрын

I3S

I actually quite like the front end design. BMW hasn't gone bonkers - the lights and grille look well proportioned. I guess it reminds me of slightly older BMW's - same with the interior - but to me that's a good thing!

@loukasantoniou8054

Жыл бұрын

yes but the graphic details are completely out of proportion. there is no purpose to the design of the car.

@georgedowns4034

Жыл бұрын

​@@loukasantoniou8054 wdym?

@nicholaswicks3077

Жыл бұрын

I love the way it look’s everything is great except the rear tail lights could be improved

@tedimrie973

Жыл бұрын

@@loukasantoniou8054your comment makes no sense i’m afraid

@dsinghr

Жыл бұрын

i love bonkers now

X3 was never a looker but this one is by far the best one.

@nealp885

Жыл бұрын

Weird to think a new BMW can actually look good.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@nealp885 still nowhere close to BMW 1 SERIES Tii Coupe.

@ciybersal9833

Жыл бұрын

Once Zeekr X Volvo EX30 Xpeng G9 hits it's over for Germans

@ChR0nos_7734

Жыл бұрын

@@nealp885 it's an outgoing model. 2024/25 X3 will probably look horrible like every new BMW

@Kronos0999

Жыл бұрын

It's only because all other BMW cars have gotten so ugly this looks 'pretty'.

I really think Matt was the one who started the load cover storage campaign that manufacturers now do.

@Under_Construction100

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@robertbinstead7662

12 күн бұрын

hes boring aswell plug him in to the mains up the arse

I have never had an issue with BMW styling, and even if I did, the design has grown on me. This one is another great one. One thing though, BMW designs always stay modern.

@brajeshsingh2391

4 ай бұрын

BMW always scores on design. Their exterior design is very good.

I think this X3 looks very much like the previous X5. Excellent design and timeless. Also inside. Their latest cars.. hmmm

@ligametis

Жыл бұрын

Because it is almost as old as prior x5 was.

@enegizedadam

9 ай бұрын

​@@ligametiswait so they recycled the old x5 and sold as the x3 cheeky bastards

It may be out of date, but the interior in the X3 is infinitely more beautiful and useful than the one in the newer BMWs. Same goes for the outside. They have lost the plot.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. X3 had been out of date since 2020 basically.

@bingobongo1615

Жыл бұрын

Nah I vastly prefer the new styling of the interiors. One might dislike the lack of buttons but the screens are much better and everything looks much cleaner.

@mtumasz

Жыл бұрын

True, newer models lose 1-8 programmable buttons which I find very useful.

@Kronos0999

Жыл бұрын

@@bingobongo1615 New interiors are better but the tradeoff of having that disgusting exterior is not worth it.

@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568

Жыл бұрын

I disagree! I own the M340i in idrive 8 guise and the tech is a game changer, I had the pre facelift 330i and the new idrive sets a new benchmark in tech and use ability.

I have no clue what Matt is talking about. I think the X3 looks great from every angle

as an owner, I cannot recommend one of these enough

I maybe one of a small few to say this but I much prefer the interior with physical touch buttons rather than a digital screen

@born1in1a1sauna

7 ай бұрын

People seems to be 50/50 on this. I think the new curved screen looks horrible, but some friends like it. The issue is that for many people its so bad that they will just not upgrade and BMW will loose sales om it aswell due to their exterior design. Which in turn might get Germany into a recession. Mercedes, BMW could easily make great designs that would sell like crazy but insteas they are having some screen-fetisch at the moment. German buttons are better than Chinese. Germans screens wont be. BMW should have two options. One more traditional setup and one more high tech.

I brought a X3 2.0i M sport with lots of options last year. Took 7 months to order it. It a good car to be honest. Does everything I need it to do. Very frugal average around 50 miles per gallon on motor way, around town it drops to 25mpg Can't complain

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

GLC300E and CLK 200 are still better than X3.

@tr0llpatr0l86

Жыл бұрын

where does ur money come from?

@danielchoritz1903

Жыл бұрын

i can complain, X3 2.0i M sport. sounds like a insider joke. because if you want a sporty car this is not.

@3mr136

Жыл бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 no

@babber2536

Жыл бұрын

So many jealous people replying to this comment

Those Taillights look like the Halo energy sword

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Or it came straight from a car in DAYS GONE.

@Mikeybikey88

Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this :D

@TheSuperBoyProject

Жыл бұрын

WOWOWOWOWOW LIFE JUST LIKE BIBEO GAME 😱😱😱

This car looks amazing from every angle especially in the white colour

@timwin7155

Жыл бұрын

This is M Brooklyn Grey I guess :)

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@timwin7155 Brooklyn Grey??

@gyula6516

Жыл бұрын

Meh, it looks decent from every angle tbh

@37racso

Жыл бұрын

Looks decent at best to me. X5 looks far more proprtional

@wazenight

Жыл бұрын

after reading the comments, I am the only one thinking it looks like a toy with this black plastic and finding it ugly for its price.

Would take this X3 over a GLC or a Q5 any day! Great looks & great performance and sound the M40i

I've had my G01 LCI M40i for a little over a year now. I love it. No major complaints. The B58 is perfect for it. Handles fine. Suspension is decent, unlike the M's which are brutal. No complaints about the interior or exterior styling. I love the exterior styling. The interior is fine. My only complaint comes from the seats. My back doesn't like them. I have the heated and cooled seats. Wish the massaging seats from the M550 were offered. I got spoiled by those and I want them back. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with the vehicle. I could do without the "mild hybrid" 48V BS and the resulting Auto start/stop, but otherwise, all good.

@manofsesame3024

11 ай бұрын

The massage seat does nothing other than making the driver sleepy

@MikeL-FL

11 ай бұрын

@@manofsesame3024 Maybe for you. For me, with major back problems, they’re godsend.

@user-d32658

6 ай бұрын

@@MikeL-FLBetter do core exercises instead.

I've been driving this exact same car, same colour, same hybrid version since October 2021. So, here's my take on it. Brilliant!!! I even have the real M-Sports seats (not these standard seats shown here), which are a delight, both optically and from a comfort aspect. The engine, in Sport Mode, with that extra battery power to boost acceleration, is really amazing. Top speed? Well, I live in Germany so am often on the Autobahn. 200kph is no problem and the car sits like it's stuck to the road. Handling is good, interior is pleasing and very functional, I agree that the front is not the most attractive car on the road. Negatives? The battery range is crap. However.... The displayed battery range depends on how you have driven the car before depleting the battery. If you were pedal to the metal all the time, the range after the next charge will be crap. If you were driving conservatively, accelerating slowly and using the cruise control, you will get a displayed range of over 40 km. What you won't ever get is the advertised 55 kms. My last car was the 2 litre X3 diesel. The car before that was the 3,5 litre 4 Series Grand Coupé. I do have some small complaints, but on the whole am very happy. Oh yeh, I test drove the Mercedes GLC 300e Plug in Hybrid. Full battery, in October, 19 degrees C ambient temperature. Range, 19 kilometers. Yes, Mercedes bullshits too!!!

@vladislavdimitrov4646

Жыл бұрын

Why do you say 435i is 3.5 liter, it's a 3.0 and its Gran not Gran(d)?

@robertw.1499

Жыл бұрын

@@vladislavdimitrov4646 My mistake. 435d Grand Coupé

@vladislavdimitrov4646

Жыл бұрын

The diesel is also 3.0

@robertw.1499

Жыл бұрын

@@vladislavdimitrov4646 clever man Vladi 🤪

@vladislavdimitrov4646

Жыл бұрын

@@robertw.1499 No just don't understand why some people still think 35i/35d always means 3,5l.

Had a not so good day, came home, saw this video and my face immediately lit up. Thank you Matthew.

Had a brand newone 2 years and getting a brand new one next month even the same colour - absolutely love it

Love your work, Mat.

I'm Brazilian and I really like the way you present the cars, congratulations on your work. X3 is spectacular.

Having lived with an Xdrive30i X3, i loved using it simply because it wasn't all that complicated. It was logically laid out and the boot was large enough to live with. Ended up switching to a G05 Xdrive30d X5 later on

X3 , Love this car, I have the same exact color and spec ❤ great car and definitely worth every penny, already took a family vacation so comfy and beautiful to look at

Excellent review Matt as always.

Happily driving an X3 M40i as a daily. Prefered it over a bulky X5 M50D (yes Diesel, not Petrol - due to low down torque). But also prefer it over the X5 40i. For me it's a perfect all rounder, but I realise I'm probably in the minority :)

@grahamstephens9931

Жыл бұрын

I’m the same. Couldn’t agree more. The performance is excellent.

@mazo7846

Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@deansmits006

Жыл бұрын

Many people are probably ok with 250hp I4, or the 330hp I6 engines. But BMW caters to the enthusiast like you

@tangwanxiangfu

Жыл бұрын

been driving an X3 M40i for two years now and absolutely loving it. Perfect size to drive the family around and definitely fun when driving alone😂

@grahamstephens9931

Жыл бұрын

@@tangwanxiangfu And the sound!

Loved the review! I would love to see the BMW X3 30d and see how it compares to the hybrid version

@PheonixUchiha

Жыл бұрын

I got the 30d and it has power. Even driving fast on the autobahn never pushed it beyonds 11 litres per 60 miles

@albertassely6230

Жыл бұрын

The hybrid version is nice but regardless of the ICE version you compare it with, you will lose comfort and agility due to the additional weight. Additionally you only feel the power/acceleration of the hybrid when in sport mode, when in comfort acceleration is very slow because it always starts in electric only mode

M40i definitely best choice, because b58. But 30i also a good choice, very good on gas, handles well, tech is still modern, love the physical buttons. I think it looks great.

Mat thank you so much for this insane video!

@rasherbasher8203

Жыл бұрын

Do you fancy the matt bot?

Wow, a review on a sunny day!

The facelift has only been available at the dealership for little over a year now. So definitely not a couple of years old.

Matt, I'd like to see your take on Mazda CX-60. With inline 6 (or even hybrid), rear wheel drive or awd with rear bias, most motoring journalists call it Japanese X3. Some even said it is nicer to sit in than in Genesis, as you mentioned it in this video. But so far I haven't seen a video with brutal practicality honesty as you do.... Heck, maybe even do a comparison test of X3, GLC, CX-60 and Genesis!

I was waiting for this 🔥

Great review Mat!😸

My wife recently got the ‘23 X3 with M Sport appearance package. No hybrid in the US. She plans to keep it at least 10 years. She bought the 10 year extended warranty for obvious reasons.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The 2023 BMW X3 is 5/10 even with M Sport Special Package.

@tr0llpatr0l86

Жыл бұрын

where the money from????

@ShaileshContents

Жыл бұрын

​@@tr0llpatr0l86 what do you mean?

@alanngli

Жыл бұрын

Congrats! Still hope the car would be reasonably reliable even with the extended warranty as you don’t want to have to keep visiting the dealership.

@tr0llpatr0l86

Жыл бұрын

@@ShaileshContents to buy these very very expensive cars means u need money. how and where the money from when mostly all jobs even for higher education basically. paying the same low salary?

well matt you are wrong, this car is a looker and it looks way better than other bmw cars, this looks like a normal bmw

Big a fan of your video reviews. Would love to see a review video of BMW X4 in XDrive 30i trim 😊

I've got my 30i now for 5 days and I can say I'm so happy. It's almost perfect. The build quality is light years ahead of previous f31 I have owned. That car was such a crap on the inside. Everything squeaked and creaked. l love this x3. Best car ever. Wouldn't trade it for the latest GLE that I occasionally drive.

I drive a 2019 X3 M40i. It's all the car that I need in terms of size and performance.

@Jordan-slmo

11 ай бұрын

What do you average with mpg?

@calvinchann1996

11 ай бұрын

@@Jordan-slmo converting litres/100kms which we use in Europe to MPG (imperial), in Comfort 20mpg, in Sport 14 mpg

The number of times you say "click the popup banner up there or follow the link in the description below" is amazing😂😂

Wow I really enjoyed this video.

Got the ix3 that looks identical and honestly love this car. It's well built, the styling is old fashioned which for me is a positive and the amount of buttons inside is a dream (I'm old fashioned like that). Like how the front looks too and it drives better then the x5 - it just handles better and more fun. My lease is up next year and I'm most likely going to keep the car forever and get something like a used 2017 x5 for my off roading needs. Ive never had the feeling that I would want to keep a car until this one so fingers crossed nothing breaks before (or after) the next year haha!

@vladislavdimitrov4646

Жыл бұрын

X5 for off-roading needs !?

@DriveWithTom

Жыл бұрын

@@vladislavdimitrov4646 I swear I knew I’d get this question when I wrote that line 😂… we often forget that luxury suvs like the ranger rovers or bmw x5s and x7s are actually decent off roaders because we only see them in towns nowadays. When I say off roading needs it basically means driving off the main road into a rocky field to pitch my tent. I’ve looked and tried out a Hilux and an F150 which I know are serious off roaders but for my needs an x5 would be perfect

@vladislavdimitrov4646

Жыл бұрын

@@DriveWithTom I get the meaning of off-roading quite seriously not only a little bit more ground clearance but ok I got your point.

I have an idea! Make a video with all those plug-in-hybrids in only electric mode to see their range in the real world!

I have this bmw in blue. Love looking at it everyday!

Mat you should make a video about the BMW x5

Nothing in its class can beat the X3

@eduarddobroiu

Жыл бұрын

GLC: Allow me to introduce myself.

@eduarddobroiu

Жыл бұрын

Except X3 M Competition ofc. 😂😅

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@eduarddobroiu except BMW 330i and Suzuki GSX-R/4 Concept

@MrHammerling

Жыл бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 what are you talking about lad

@ARentz07

Жыл бұрын

@@eduarddobroiu lol my wife has an X3 and said she'd never consider the GLC because it "doesn't look expensive". I tend to agree. Especially when all the ones we see randomly on the road have wheels that are caked in brake dust and curb rash.

Would love to see how it drives compared to a Stelvio and a Macan. I'd never buy an SUV but I'd like to see the mechanical differences between them, supposedly they are the three ones with the best handling

@v12-s65

Жыл бұрын

macan and stelvio far better

@nomad6-1

Жыл бұрын

@@v12-s65 As an hardcore Alfa Romeo fan and Giulia lover I'd personally take the Stelvio, no doubt, if I was forced to drive an SUV. However the new X3 is based on the BMW G20, which is a project I respect a lot, and the Macan has the PDK and well it's just a 2013 MLB platform car, but somehow it feels like it isn't. So I'm just curious about seeing them underneath, what technical solutions they adopted.

hey I just wanna mention that the hybrid models do not necessary handle the least well, in fact the battery pack which is set on the floor of the vehicle helps lowering the mass center.

Would love to see the ix1 review

I've said it a couple of times already but you should definately include the daytime running lights in the reviews! They really are a huge part of the design and in lots of occasions there are design options depending on your trim choice! Why not to include them???

Nice Design ❤

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

And also cool.

@AutoMotoMaroc

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 yes

The infotainment actually looked like it was super glued on.

i would really like to know this spot where Matt does his review, looks so peaceful

What about the new X1?? It’s so good.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

X1 and X3 both are 5/10 cars.

@TheSuperBoyProject

Жыл бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 funnily enough, just like your mom

@cp4512

Жыл бұрын

Yes, love the new X1 and it’s almost as big as this X3.

@ARentz07

Жыл бұрын

I would test-drive both, if I were you. The front-wheel-drive-based BMWs handle completely differently from the rear-wheel-drive-based models like the X3.

@YouTubeUserLol

Жыл бұрын

@@ARentz07 I ordered the new X1 (U11) it’s way more modern

As an ix3 owner - the 2022 update - I can only say it is the best BMW choice, no weird high luggage floor and definitely a pretty decent actual range. Plus it has no real disadvantages compared to the iX. It’s a lot of fun with the rear wheel drive! Conclusion: Plug-in hybrids are obsolete.

@lukafucek7166

Жыл бұрын

Also, as a 2022 iX3 owner.. After watching this I am quite surprised on how compromised the hybrid is. I'm extremely happy with the the choice so far.

@StratosTitan

Жыл бұрын

We have an iX3 on order (since last August, due to arrive in October, more than a year later). I'm happy we seem tohave made the right choice then.

@TamilEelam1

Жыл бұрын

X3 looks way better than an iX!

Please talk about engine specs and engine choices more in the future reviews.

I came from a 981 Cayman S that I had driven daily for 10 years to an X3 M40i. I'm so impressed with the car, it's the perfect blend of practicality, comfort, and performance when you need it. Sure it doesn't quite have the poise and fun handling of the Cayman, but it's so much easier to live with in a 1 car garage. I was worried about reviewers saying the ride was harsh, to me on terrible Scottish road surfaces it's really comfortable without being wafty, really quiet on the interior too. Love that this model has proper buttons rather than touchscreen everything. Only thing I really miss is the Burmeister Stereo from the Porsche, the Harman Kardon isn't even close to that (although that was a £3k option so can't expect it to be. I cross shopped with a Macan S / GTS, and the BMW was £20-30k cheaper with similar options, a no brainer.

@manofsesame3024

11 ай бұрын

If I have a bigger wallet I would choose a Cayenne S over the X5 M40i. But if my budget only enough for a Macan I would go for the X3 M40i, or the Q5, Acura RDX for more saving

This X3 can't look better than this

Matt when are we going to see the LCI M40i review⁉️ we bought it brand new 6 months ago and I have been waiting for your review!

just shock with very low electric rage i use diesel trim the annoying things is turn circle very wide thank you Matt for nice review as always.

Awesome video.

G01 X3 is so underrated. Great value compared to rivals and M40 performance is unreal. Keeps up with most of the best cars and Xdrive works well on country roads.

Should’ve reviewed the X3M or atleast the X3 M40i

@abayamangali

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that would have been cool, but I guess most people who buy these get the 4 cylinder models.

You can toggle One-Pedal-Driving/rolling with the gearshifter...

This car is so much sophisticated!!

The BMW X3 is truly a budget-friendly alternative to the X5.

Interesting about the lack of regen braking. Currently driving a 530e and it'll come to a complete stop on level ground, although admittedly not fast enough for proper one-pedal driving.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

ApurtureSci, have u seen clips from F1 2020 UNSEEN yet? Its in my KZread channel. One clip featuring Nijigasaki, D4DJ and Bang Dream singing Ryoran Victory Road during Bushiroad Rock Festival 2023. 👍 These unseen clips are based from the best F1 Codemasters game, F1 2020.

@awesomecarguy9897

Жыл бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqamwbiPpNy7cZs.html

@willspeakman2461

Жыл бұрын

It could just be the Idrive settings, You can turn off regen.

We are waiting for your review of the 2024 range Rover sport sv

Looks amazing

I think the best engine for this car is the 3 litre diesel from personal experience

Definitely wanting for the new C63s,M4 competition and RS5 drag race😭

@eduarddobroiu

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

What about Porsche 930 vs C63S vs M4 Competition vs Dodge Viper RT/10?

@jeremyfong5684

Жыл бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 try getting that in the UK

Best looking beamer after m5cs, but they killed that w the new design too

This X3 is nice looking.

I saw in X3M on the road the other day. One of the few good looking bmws made right now

Have the new Rs6 performance variants arrived in the UK?

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

RS6 Performance not arrived in UK yet. Maybe in few more months.

@rasherbasher8203

Жыл бұрын

The performance IS available... 👆 this guy/bot is talking shit again..

Very good car! Its cockpit is for sure better than the newer BMWs. More driver focused. The new design with huge screens and no gear shift is not as driver focused as this.

@cp4512

Жыл бұрын

I much prefer the cockpit and interiors of the newer BMWs.

@MrE.888

Жыл бұрын

​@Crispy agreed. Though I never liked the stuck on screen I imagine, like this X3, cars without it will start to look dated very quickly

when comes a review video of a Land Rover Discovery Sport hybride 👌🏼

Please review the Jag F-Pace P400e 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Its on a different platform, so not coming close to X5.

Mat is definitely a trend aficionado when he calls things old-fashioned, which he does occasionally when describing some features (like USB 2.0) 😂.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Seems like its classic.

I've the same and I'm happy with it

Wow a new BMW that doesnt look awful :)

The Market has Spoken SUV's Slay All Other Body Types 👊

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. This car still 5/10 tho.

@ARentz07

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 Not sure why you have to keep copy-pasting the same thing everywhere. Just like, make your own comment thread. Also, hard disagree... The X3 is a solid choice in the segment.

I couldnt imagine buying an X3 at this point. The plug-in hybrid is so expensive that I'd rather just buy a more spacious EV like an Enyaq for the same price. Sure X3s are typically quite nice to drive, but for me fuel prices are really taking the joy out of driving.

@trentox6713

Жыл бұрын

Are you really comparing a Skoda with a BMW? xD

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@trentox6713 Skoda Felicia and BMW X3 are both underrated.

@tr0llpatr0l86

Жыл бұрын

where the money from????

@cp4512

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089you rated the X3 only 5/10 in several other posts to this video 😂

Was expecting him to review the x3 m40i tbh , its the best at the moment

Love this older console

Am I the only one who hates that every car nowadays are being painted in primer grey Edit: ok wow I didn’t expect this much of a reaction to this

@diegopuijk9803

Жыл бұрын

You’re not alone

@suhailjamil3909

Жыл бұрын

Yes you are correct... You are the only hating one!

@PropalSVS

Жыл бұрын

I love it to be honest because it looks good on a sunny day but on a rainy day it can look like the Godzilla on the road man.the color pops even more on gloomy and dark days

@-DC-

Жыл бұрын

Other colours are Available.

@Mellow6996

Жыл бұрын

Yes you are.

Fuiyoh ! nice car 🚗

12:57 the Defender coming back🔥

Plz do a the new x6 M review....a fan from South Africa

What's next Budget X7?😂

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

X6i Concept?

Please do a new review of the new ix3 model! Your other video is over 2 years old 😢

What a great vehicle! But why are all the interiors black? I feel down in black interiors. I need colors.

It’s a nice SUV but doesn’t really seem to compete with the new GLC

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

GLC300 and Nissan Pickup are better than X3.

@Hammertime4404

Жыл бұрын

Because the GLC is brand new, this x3 has been around 5/6 years. Plus in the uk, a 2l GLC is around £10k more than an X3. It’s definitely not £10,000 better

The video is good but did anyone else notice the banner?

Mat sorry mate im watching from namibia and we cant log in to the carwow site so everytime you configure your choice of car spec we are unable to go check them out please mate fix that problem for us please

when are you reviewing the 2024 Maserati GranTurismo??

Personally I always thought the x3 looked nicer then the x5, I have a X3 3.0SD Msport and for a "4x4" it handles so well and looks great. Also capable of big BHP...id have a X3 over a x5 any day of the week.

@yesitsme8943

Жыл бұрын

same. drove both, chose X3

The interior in incredibly boring

I'm currently driving one on a road trip through the US. It's quite nice, my main complaints would be awful audio and a fairly huge blind spot.

Perhaps you should say that you are reviewing the Plug in Hybrid in the title? Not even available in the US

Finally! I was waiting for this video from a long time, the last x3 review you did was around 5-7 years ago. Great review!