BMW M3 or BMW M4... Which would you choose?

@srajan.1234

Жыл бұрын

bmw m3

@srajan.1234

Жыл бұрын

bmw m4

@diamondjasperluvai6135

Жыл бұрын

Kenya

@ceceliavoon498

Жыл бұрын

M4

@DaRealSasaga

Жыл бұрын

M3

I'm quite impressed with how well the diesel gets off the line

@Presto_001

Жыл бұрын

Well with over 1000 Nm of torque, it would get of the line quick, however I am too impressed by the fact that it didn't have much wheelspin.

@toku30

Жыл бұрын

It's got me wondering about how well a European retuned SAAB 9-3 Twin turbo diesel would do against an American SAAB 9-3

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@Presto_001 the TDI engine of M4 gonna boost it by 58bhp.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@toku30 SAAB 9-3 not gonna match Ford Mustang.

@th3Kun

Жыл бұрын

more torque

I really want to see what the 430 does in dry conditions

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

430 in dry conditions even can match against Murcielago LP640.

@bh4560

Жыл бұрын

An xdrive version with same tune. Would be an absolute weapon

@bigduphusaj162

Жыл бұрын

​@@purwantiallan5089 in your dreams. The lambo would humiliate it.

@capac3785

Жыл бұрын

@@bigduphusaj162 not humiliating in the 1/4 mile. but surely on the long road

@anwaaraslam723

Жыл бұрын

Not good, watch officially gassed video on the diesel vs m4. In a diesel the actual power out down is a lot less due to the gearing. It’s better compared to the f82 m4 at 430-450 bhp.

I am a diesel fan so this was extremely entertaining ! Well done gentleman.

Darkside really are exceptional.. that power, no smoke and the mapping between the box and the engine.. perfect

@beastofackworth

Жыл бұрын

No smoke? We must have been watching different videos

@MrZimmaframe

Жыл бұрын

@@beastofackworth excess fuel has to be added to get pops and bangs when revving at stationary. When it's moving it hardly smokes for a highly modified diesel. Darkside Developments can tune it with almost no smoke but you loss a little bit of down low torque as spool time is increased.

@michaeldeancoetzee9993

Жыл бұрын

The soot on the back of the car says a different story

We need more tuned drag races and drone footage like this!!! Also, for drag races, can you add the 0-60mph times and braking distances in the videos as visuals as well as a speed trap at the 1/4-mile mark, if you can. I speak on behalf of everyone watching these videos. Thank you.

@ricric3025

Жыл бұрын

This comment needs more upvotes

@coverdalepandereepo4738

Жыл бұрын

It won't be fair for other similar channels if this is to happen, we will just watch here..😅😅😅 I gave my upvote regardless..🤭

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@ricric3025 1000 upvotes from me.

@silentracer911

Жыл бұрын

Yes, 1/4 times always include speed, it gives a sense on how fast it really is

@itsatrap4850

Жыл бұрын

100-200kmh would be nice to see too.

Hi Mat, small suggestions from me. Request your editing team to put speedometer view of both cars in a corner, so viewers can see top speed achieved and at what speed being overtaked.

@b17blg

Жыл бұрын

I think the difficulty here is that during the drag race they use multiple angles and sometimes go back a few seconds in the drag race to show different perspectives of the race. Maybe they could do their normal edit and then leave in a single shot 1 cut of the drag race with speed overlays and other data.

@denisdeari1

Жыл бұрын

the clips are not chronological

@souljayt8411

Жыл бұрын

@@b17blg no difficulty, only the purchase of an app “dragy”

@b17blg

Жыл бұрын

@@souljayt8411 That doesn’t help with the editing does it? It gives you the data, and May uses his specialist timing gear on all the other videos so they have that at their disposal which is miles better than a crapppy draggy appy 😂😂

@flowmastaflam

Жыл бұрын

@@b17blg this is suggesting they can't simply add the speedo clip into the rest just like they already do

Darkside really know their diesel tuning, had my seat ibiza fr 2.0tdi normally 143bhp and 320nm, they managed to get it to 197bhp and 480nm! Had the car for 6 years no issues whatsoever

@maximc9033

Жыл бұрын

From your knowledge, does a tune last forever? Or do you need to re-tune the car after sometime?

@johnjackson2349

Жыл бұрын

@@maximc9033 tunes last forever, most tunes will be ok for the life of the car, however as engines wear and mileage increases a custom tune like I had really maxed out the turbo/flywheel pushing everything hard, I would tone things down a notch on high mile cars

@aboddle8878

Жыл бұрын

Well within 2.0 tdi capability and likely a map and egr delete....these guys have cam swapped, mapped, exhaust and loads of other stuff !

@johnjackson2349

Жыл бұрын

@@aboddle8878 at the time the car had limited development, it was around 10years ago now, but what they can get out of diesel engines is pretty insane

@MegaAx87

Жыл бұрын

​@@maximc9033 i have a 535d e60 with downpipes, custom exhaust, kn air filter, hybrid single turbo instead of the twin turbo, its on 2.8 bar, m550d fuel injector, m550d water pump, Wagner ic has a remap to 530hp and 1100nm and its going well, just change the oil and tires, michellin 305 85 r19

that was probably the most interesting and at the same time thrilling race so far and its hilarious how Ben always looks a bit bored. Awesome dude!

I’d love to see Jeremy, James and Richard as guest drivers for a drag race 😁 Just one drag race please 🥹

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Jeremy is a really fun guy.

@sv52308

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget James

@manoaramanantsalama

Жыл бұрын

this comment needs more likes

@saitama9994

Жыл бұрын

@@sv52308 did you even read the comment.

@sv52308

Жыл бұрын

@@saitama9994 bro, I could've sworn that James wasn't there before 💀

How many of us is still a fan of the previous generation M4? I am!

@sohamshome7509

Жыл бұрын

Me

@durosax9121

Жыл бұрын

The F82 M4 is THE M4!!!

@qiqeh

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely better looking than the new one

@jaydenandrews02

Жыл бұрын

It's the best looking M4 in my opinion. Best M4 BMW made in terms of looks, between it and the current one.

@raftonpounder6696

Жыл бұрын

And when the next generation comes out you’ll prefer the current one. It’s the same old story.

Most fun drag race video to date, thanks for the content!

Unbelieveable work from Dark Developments. Great job with this sleeper.

I’d love to see a collaboration with Alex , Ben and Jeremy Clarkson all drag racing with Mat 😂

@chakibbaiker9768

Жыл бұрын

There's no getting clarkson out of his farm for less than amazon is paying him to do the grand tour

@DJ-Lee_S

Жыл бұрын

@@chakibbaiker9768 yeah I suppose 😕 would be cool to see though

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@DJ-Lee_S yep. And hopefully Hammond also involved in those drag races.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

@@chakibbaiker9768 dozens of cash.

@Chrispage2

Жыл бұрын

they could get hammond easily

That previous gen 4 series looks stunning!

@rubalouba

Жыл бұрын

@Brian Lee because it almost solves the nostril issue?

@rg6982

Жыл бұрын

@Brian Lee facts! I may be biased as I owned an individual green F32 in the past! One of the best car I've owned to date, miss it. Only got rid because I needed something more practical as I had a little one on the way

@Stncedr1ge

Жыл бұрын

@@rubalouba g82 isn’t that bad at all I really like the grills. the non m grills they look ugly without the bar in the middle

@alexrey8035

Жыл бұрын

Rear looks like shit 💩 compared with new one

@manvirsingh3482

Жыл бұрын

@Brian Lee this is not true at all. Isle of Man green and Aventurine red are amazing

I had the 430d 2016 plate for 3 years from new. Amazing car, and surprisingly family friendly with the hatchback boot. Excellent steering, tremendous torque. It's best suited as a GT for long cruises. And of course... it looks stunning in the lowered 430d guise. Xdrive versions are 3-4cm higher and look jacked up and less sporty, so either stick with the 430d for the 6 cylinder or get the xdrive and get some after market springs.

Loved this. I have this generations 3 series 330d and I know it isn't special but cool to know what the engine is capable of.

A drag race we didn't expect but absolutely needed.

That feeling when you edge past the STIG! 😆😆 Good show Matt!

Love a tuned diesel. Got an E92 330D m-sport running 300bhp and 630Nm with an XHP stage 3 gearbox map. Love it. Quicker than most things on the road and still gets close to 50mpg on the run😎😎

Always appreciate the daily uploads, keep it up Matt.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Matt is the man bro.

This is the type of drags I'm in love with! Matt and the team, please do more of these! Sure thing Lambos vs Ferraris vs Telsas vs "other top-tier-car-brand" is splendid, but this.... this is love in the nutshell!

Yes ! Race Ben and get more of Ben on the show for sure ! Man’s a legend!

I mean ... 1k NM ... on the rear only ... on a wet track. Went pretty well considering the conditions ! x)

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The M4 with TDI engine seem interesting. It now has 422bhp.

@paradox5556

Жыл бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 tdi?

we need more tuned diesels on carwow

@bro89174

Жыл бұрын

😂

@matteightytwo

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@NewHandle_

Жыл бұрын

We do indeed, more realistic cars

@riba2233

Жыл бұрын

No thanks

@steineins

Жыл бұрын

no diesel belongs in trucks

Great race!

Only a bit of fun. Thanks, Matt & the Stig, for good natured & entertaining content.

@OfficialMatwatson.....

Жыл бұрын

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1017Nm is just absolutely nuts on that 430d!!!

@caidee

Жыл бұрын

It's not an M dude 🤣

@steineins

Жыл бұрын

and illegal

@jackl517

Жыл бұрын

@@steineins It's not illegal. Lol

@matteiasm.3618

Жыл бұрын

​@@jackl517 DPF removed so it's 100% illegal, but the rest can be legal. Not without the DPF removed.

@HK.Builds

Жыл бұрын

​@@jackl517 dpf has been removed. Would fail mot and would not be road legal

Always great to see the builds from the Darkside chaps!

Best drag race you’ve done!

The drone shorts are amazing! We want more drone shorts in future drag races!

Do we REALLY need to say anything after introducing Ben Collins any longer? We all know what he did. His current work and personality can stand on its own. Great video as always. Thank you 😊

Seriously I look forward to your race videos keep it up

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Agree. And hopefully 5 way Super GT300 Drag Race.

More of The Stig please! Great to see Ben on our screens again 🙂

I once owned an 2011 E90 335d. Loved it. One of the best cars from stop light to stop light. The torque was amazing, and rhe diesel was so smooth. Back then they had egr issues it carbon buildup was a real problem.

As a BMW fan, though the new one is growing on me, the original 4 series is such a great looker. Subtle and classy with a hint of aggression. Also, It’s unbelievable how a diesel can put that much power and torque out.

Amazing drag races - As Always.

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Amin YRA. U got it.

"That's interesting" 😅 love that feeling when you discover stuff about the car on the go, love it

Really enjoying Ben on the vids Matt,... both Ben and Yianni are great assistants on these

This is the best place to come for this type of content. CarWow smashes other no 1/4 times channels. 😁

You should have a drag race with all the regulars in the same car, be interesting to see who wins.

@KarrasBastomi

Жыл бұрын

With manual gearbox.

Mat thank you so much for this insane video!

Love the drone shots, really nice touch. Sending love from Egypt

@OfficialMatwatson.....

Жыл бұрын

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Them boys at darkside are magicians, it's worth following their channel.

Damn, this has got to be the most impressive diesel i've seen in a while.

@joshspades9031

Жыл бұрын

I've been on the diesel hype train for the past 2 years. I own a 15' TDI golf sport wagon. Absolutely LOVE the car. Averaging 40mpg, 500-540 a full tank (depending on how I drive) Bone stock it's really fun being quick off the line, and torquey. It's not fast. But the mods available especially the interchangeability. I hope to make it an awd with either the alltracks drive train or a used Audi. My dad's tdi A6 is a BEAST.

@rhholtt

Жыл бұрын

​@Josh Spades meanwhile my 400bhp+ 435D bores me

Loved the serious of this video

Really happy to see Ben Collins again!

Those drone shots are lit 🔥

Of course we wanna see Matt race Ben around a track!

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yep. And even against Clarence "Razor" Callahan.

@meryuk

Жыл бұрын

Of course, it'd be awesome 👍👍👍

@80y3r9

Жыл бұрын

On foot

Cool test!

More Videos like this pls. 👍🏼

Nice one Darkside👊

God I love the darkside diesel stuff. They've done a beautiful audi a5 with like 500bhp and it sounds like a r35 gtr!

i have a 430d with the xdrive, not tuned or anything but the launch is insane, would be interesting to see how that fairs against an m4

Hi Matt, your videos are brilliant. Simply brilliant. One tiny thing - could you add the 0-60mph from your VBox/draggy box time at the same time as showing the 1/4 mile time. Thanks:)

@livseb5283

Жыл бұрын

Or show on the side what mph theyre going at would help

I’ve got the 430D and I love it some machine! M4 is a dream though sick motor!

Previous gen 4series/m4 looks awesome

I think we would all love to see Matt on Ben’s channel. PLEASE make it a real thing

FINALLY SOME DRONE FOOTAGE ❤️👏🏽👏🏽

Never been a BMW fan but I’ve loved their diesels ever since I rode in my friend’s modded/tunes 2011 335d

Would be really nice if you'll could add more parts of you'll showing the speed the cars are reaching in the drag and rolls

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Agree man.

I would love to see that same race on dry conditions

@Mr11ESSE111

Жыл бұрын

Why would be other then!?is m4 on wooden wheels here

Matt in the car saying come one come on! With his head back and forth was so funny😂😂😂

Great comparison! I can only confirm the diesel power myself from my F32 435d xDrive 2014 Stage 2 450hp and 880nM of torque! Blasting fast

@derekporter66

Жыл бұрын

Mods ? Where from

Quite impressed from 250 ish horsepower to 400 plus power plant 😮, definitely doing this to my 330d now 😊

@bigduphusaj162

Жыл бұрын

Trust me Don't! They're already chocolate

@kNIGHTriderryder

Жыл бұрын

@@bigduphusaj162 lol yh mate it’s out of warranty just plan to do a stage 1 or 2 would not throw 8k at it , it’s worth less than that lol

@callumcurtis15

Жыл бұрын

​@@bigduphusaj162what is a good engine then in your opinion?

@skillandluck

Жыл бұрын

What you want)) You can get easily 700+ hp from old OM606 Merc’s diesel engine

@NomadJRG

Жыл бұрын

If it's the older M57 diesel then crack on the newer N57 like in this video have chocolate main bearings.

Im a big fan of Diesel power so great to see this! I bet he also got 40 MPG as well....the best bit of course is to see Matt's little face when he's winning :)

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

The diesel power is also strong enough to pull those

@mecaniquehomemade239

Жыл бұрын

the perfect diesel car

@levimiller2551

Жыл бұрын

Doubt it. My 335d does 35 max with around 370hp.

@callumcurtis15

Жыл бұрын

​@@levimiller2551It's all In how you drive and journey length, especially in cold temperatures . My f3x 335d will only get 37mpg around town at best but when I was commuting last year doing 50 mile round trips it would get 48mpg if I took it easy around 60 mph down country roads .

@callumcurtis15

Жыл бұрын

​@@levimiller2551Also who tuned your BM ?

This was the best drag race. Very interesting to see some tuned less powerful cars against series production powerful cars. ✅

Darkside Developments tuned my Scirocco TDI and remapped the DSG as well. Drives so nice now with effortless "OoOmPh" on tap.

I want to see what these mods on a 435d X-drive would be looking like 😍😍😍

😂 Matt ALWAYS goes just before the go!!

Really impressive tuning done on the diesel … can’t imagine the fun to drive it … and that sound 😍

@OfficialMatwatson.....

Жыл бұрын

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Impressive 💪🏽

Can we just appreciate that's only a 430d and not a 435d! That's a weapon

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

430d imo has 427bhp.

@ronanmcnamee2008

Жыл бұрын

The fact it's a different turbo makes not different if it's 430 or 335d

@spookyreaper1702

Жыл бұрын

There’s no difference with it’s aftermarket turbo

@J_Bartok

Жыл бұрын

​@@ronanmcnamee2008 but the 435 has xdrive

@Kickboxritter

Жыл бұрын

@@spookyreaper1702 of course there is, the 35d is bi-turbo, the 30d is single turbo.

Drag Race is nice from time to time, but I value reviews much more 🤩

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Deserved tons more value for it.

That's actually the most interesting race ever in car wow !!

Yeah, we want! Make a collab, we want to see Mat on Ben Collins Drives. 😀 It will be fun

Ben giving it Bollocks !! 🥳 We like Ben, he should come again…….. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

We love it.

For some reason since the e92 i always prefer a tuned x30-x35 than the M ones. A lot cheaper and with the right mods you have a great package.

@peterbett3076

Жыл бұрын

That’s maybe because the M3 engines after the E92 were far less bespoke than previous generations

@yuropean_eunion2133

11 ай бұрын

I mean, that should be the reverse, no? In the E92 gen, the M is slower than the 335i after it gets a 100$ tune, but the M stays the same unless it gets forced induction, after market SC is like 10k..on the other hand the gen after the E92, they're all turbo'd six cylinders, the M and the 340 and 335.So the difference between them is literally just "the lesser version is less powerfu stock, but you can gain good gains, the better version is the same but more powerful stock and can have even better gains, the best is etc. And so on. There's really no reason to get a x30-x35-x40 instead of the M after the e92 gen if you have the money, whereas the difference between E92 gen trims is a fun but slow NA V8 (M) or the straight line king twin turbo I6 (335i n54) that can easily be faster than the V8 M3. They're basically two cars for two completely different audiences, as for the new bmws, it's basically just better trim=better car, simple as that, no huge difference just better in all categories, more power, more potential, better undercarriage. What kind of person would choose a 4 cylinder bmw over a 6 cylinder M engine if he has the money and is into cars? 🤷

@ArisHDi

11 ай бұрын

@@yuropean_eunion2133 i mostly agree but i never said its worth buying a 4 cylincer bmw. I said its worth buying the non M inline 6 with turbo.

@yuropean_eunion2133

11 ай бұрын

@@ArisHDi all the new x30's are 4 cylinders past the e92 era

So happy to see The Stig in Carwow drag races!

Yes!!!!! Race Ben Collins!!!!!

Race starts at 4:44

@sv52308

Жыл бұрын

Our saviour

@arturod.4611

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@janechanlder2675

Жыл бұрын

Thnq

@JZX_Nate

Жыл бұрын

shush real viewers watch the whole video

Can anything in life be worse that looking over at Matt while he's beating you in a race?

I have just turned my X5 e53 3.0d and it's transformed into an animal the 218 bhp is now 288 I've cat backed the exhaust and performance air filter the stage one remap with egr deleat the touque is now 580 acceleration and pull is rapid and I am now in love with this x5 it ticks so many box's

Great video.....I'd love to see the 340d v something similar from Audi or the equivalent 3 series (touring) I'd love to see a small diesel comparison... VW golf GTD, Focus ST diesel, BMW 120d

You guys racing would be pure entertainment, although he’d completely destroy you😂

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

You can really see that Stig is actually an awesome driver! ❤

@jd32k

Жыл бұрын

Almost like driving has been his job for 20 years.

@johnsmith-cw3wo

Жыл бұрын

@@jd32k never noticed that on Top Gear

beautiful tune

Would be interesting to see how a 435d would do in this contest as it’s Xdrive. I have one and would be willing to lend it for this purpose 🎉

Id love some tuned daily drivers in a drag race. Like serento, passat , a4 , v70 like actual "Normal" cars 😅

@purwantiallan5089

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Normal but in semi upgraded state.

@DaBawski

Жыл бұрын

Then watch officially gassed....

@nerijusramonas7520

Жыл бұрын

@DaBawski what ? All I see are videos of either high-performance cars or supper moded ones where in that is mildly moded everyday cars ????

@JuicingDailyTV

Жыл бұрын

I agree, v70/s60, Accord 2.4, Toyota camry v6 etc

@BlatentlyFakeName

Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see how close they are to the official figure.

Carwow should review more diesels as they are getting very rare these days. Also, there are a lot of fans of the torkey diesel out there.

@rdspam

Жыл бұрын

Rare for a reason 😂

@paradox5556

Жыл бұрын

Rare? Most cars here in europe are diesel.

@ronj7658

Жыл бұрын

Not rare at all. I even have one. Mostly because of the torque though.

@Amyth2728

Жыл бұрын

@@paradox5556 Yeah maybe there are existing Diesel cars but most manufacturers have now stopped making Diesel cars. That's why they are getting rare and maybe we will never see new diesel car.

Best ever car wow 👌 Ben is the man.

just sick the passion in the 430 is next level

@OfficialMatwatson.....

Жыл бұрын

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Really impressive for the 430d.

@gercobosch2870

Жыл бұрын

Well a diesel is interesting. Especially seeing that diesel was probably putting up way better economics....

@Idk910

Жыл бұрын

@@gercobosch2870I have a stage 2 435D xDrive (AWD). People always ask me “why didn’t you just buy an M4?” at car meets and this video is the perfect explanation. I’m not even £30k deep into the car+mods and I smoke F8x M3/M4s… while still maintaining 50mpg on the highway and about 38mpg combined. My maintenance costs are ridiculously low because my diesel is the most reliable BMW I’ve ever owned. My first BMW was a 550i GT with the TT 4.4L V8 and my second was a 330e iPerformance with the 2.0T up front and electric motor in the rear. Buying the 435D was the best decision I ever made.

@barghest9810

Жыл бұрын

@@gercobosch2870 people tend to still underestimate diesels nowadays when in reality they’re no longer just eco or hard working engines… I got to have a go in a 2021 Audi S4 last year and honestly the bi-turbo 3L in that was absolutely insane and sounded nothing like what you’d expect from a Diesel. Sure it wasn’t tuned and I dare say the RS4 would beat it, but I don’t think it would be all that drastic of a difference as one would expect. Think the only thing that would put me off that 430d is the amount of smoke that bellows out of it and how much that’ll cover the back end… too many boy racers around my neck of the woods causing problems, developed a bit of a dislike for the telltale Passats and the like with soot black rear ends

@gercobosch2870

Жыл бұрын

@@barghest9810 yeah I don't like the smoke either. But probably they deleted the DEF/adblue. Which would burn away said smoke.

@jdrifts5938

Жыл бұрын

@@gercobosch2870 bmw does not use adblue

Great control from Ben at 12:06!

@benlecluyse

Жыл бұрын

Thanks ! 😉😜

Yes, we want to see you race with Ben

Impressed

I'll take the old 4 series petrol all day every day. Same with 3 series.F30 was highly underrated in Mats old reviews before Carwow.

@OfficialMatwatson.....

Жыл бұрын

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I was looking at getting a 430d convertible last night, nice to see they are a good platform to mod on 😂

Stage 3 330d F31 here. Very few cars get close on a run. And it still returns 40mpg. Unreal engine and gearbox combination.

@tomgee4327

Жыл бұрын

What have you done to it if you don't mind me asking? Who was the job done by and what kind of costs we are talking about? I have the same car and I'm very curious about it. I looked up DD and some of the reviews just put me off from using them if I'm honest.

I think Ben would do great just having a studio segment discussing the cars he ran on top gear around the track, so many classics!