que buenas son estas pruebas que hacéis. Gracias por el vídeo

Yo también tengo la sensación de que al conductor le ha costado un poco acabar de entender el coche, pero de todas formas tiene muy buen comportamiento este serie 3, y va bastante mejor que el Clase C que se probó en el anterior vídeo.

Extremely fast steering reaction

77 is ideal. Faster times means more esc intervention which makes the car slow through corners and it’s not what you want for a fun to drive car. It’s also safe because if going faster than 77 you can use the brakes a bit to help avoid the obstacles anyway

En este test el peligro está en el conductor...el coche se nota finíssimo en sus reacciones y balanceo ✌️

No fue el mejor dia del conductor.Seguir asi el canal es buenisimo desde los primeros 500 sub.

@stateless4255

3 жыл бұрын

resultado bastante mediocre. Un 508 resulta bastante mejor en esta prueba!

A thing with this chassis, tyre sidewall makes a BIG difference. Went from r19 to r17 for winter and the car is not nearly as posed on weight change, etc. On summer wheels 225 40 19 with 255 35 19 conti sport contact 6 car pulls 1.2 lateral G easy. All stock no springs no arb nothing.

Este Canal Deberían Hacer (vs) de coches para ver Quien lo hace mejor

Al fondo se puede ver el nuevo Mazda3, tipo Hatchback. ¿Será que están próximos a publicar el video de la reseña y pruebas dinámicas? Suena fácil decirlo, pero parece que este canal es visto desde muchos países. Continúen con su muy buen trabajo.

Igual que todos , creo que el problema fue la respuesta lenta del conductor y Exigimos a alguien capacitado y agil.

Strange reaction of the ESP, it seems to let the car understeer way too long then to react much too sharply. I'm not sure such a weird bevahiour feels really comfortable for the driver...

1:35 the guy going to fix the cone is like "oh shit , here we go again ..."

Damn. Nice one

with xdrive!?we want rwd to see the results...pls

La velocidad en el slalon fue la habitual? Me pareció un pelín más alta de lo que solemos ver. De todas formas, ese coche tiene unas reacciones un tanto extrañas al girar el volante, desconozco si el conductor también las percibe

Not bed . I'm positively surprised

Km 77 esta pasada si lo veo buena, la del mercedez clase c es regular

El coche va planchaooo 👌🏻 Muy estable y seguro

Will you test the alfa Romeo giulietta (2016-...) ?

Your channel is great and the tests are well executed and filmed, i do offenly come to your videos. BUT, it is internationaly watched, it should be subtitled!

@stevenhoe451

5 жыл бұрын

Use caption, it is subtitled

La mejor marca

0:32 well reaction is fast

Podrían aser el de La hilux 2019

Is that the ultimate driving machine? It does not look so!!

Podéis hacer la maniobra de esquiva con audi 3 sport back??? Gracias

bailando macarena pasta mucho chucho maňana vamos rafa nadal!

Wich is better this one or alfa Romeo giulia?

Compared to MB C class this BMW is masterpiece

Lada vesta test please

No entiendo que necesidad tienen de dudar de la profesionalidad de los conductores, será que tenemos demasiado idealizadas a las berlinas alemanas...eso si, seguro que por dentro es muy bonito.

Questa è la differenza tra il super telaio della Giulia con sospensioni a quadrilatero all' anteriore ed il telaio generalista della serie 3 con Mcpherson all' anteriore. E niente, fa già ridere cosi. Senza contare della sospensione elettronica di questo cassone tedesco. Ahahahahah ciao bmw, alla prossima serie 3. Ah già, dimenticavo che oggi contano solo i vari "hey mercedes" o "hey bmw" ahahahahahahah

@costantinosaporito2493

5 жыл бұрын

Triste verità... prima nelle recensioni riportavano le sensazioni di guida, il motore ecc... adesso sembra di vedere la recensione di uno smartphone... l'altro giorno volendo informarmi sui motori della nuova classe a dal sito mercedes non trovai nulla di tecnico nella sezione di presentazione solo tecnologia adas e altro...

@nicoletapopescu6530

5 жыл бұрын

Mercedez C klasse all anteriore quadrilatero....

@custom8883

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicoletapopescu6530 avrà pure il quadrilatero amo anteriore ma e un cesso di macchina a livelli di tenuta... E meglio la serie precedente che aveva il mcperson.. A questo punto meglio un a4 che anche se ha il motore leggermente a sbalzo va meglio

Im impressed. There's almost no under or oversteer. Especialy at 77km/h, while most of other cars skid (more or less) from the begging to the end. 3-series seems to be extremly stable/sharp, but steering inputs are not deep enough to pass test at higher speeds (in my opinion). No offence, I love this channel anyway. The most valuable thing is not a achieved speed, but video of car behaviour that we can compare to others. Btw, would be great to see moose tests at higher speed (there is 1 "iso test" around 140km/h for example). Higher speed - bigger differences. Shame, that most journalists stop at few words of "3-series is a well-driving car"... Even Germans from Auto motor und sport are done with their "supertests"... :( Ps. I've heard many times that steering of new 3-series is... too responsive, even nervous. Belive it, it's even possible to notice it in that video. Huge shame, but I'm impressed with that agility anyway. At 1st attempt driver steer back 2 times, and both steering inputs are easily noticable even from outside of the car. Oh, wow!

@drpr1481

5 жыл бұрын

There is tons of understeer. Buy eyes. Front axle has lazy movement at second reaction. For me its mediocre. This understeer push at 0:39 is just awfull.

@luissantuzzi5891

5 жыл бұрын

Is full of understeer

@netuserist

5 жыл бұрын

@@drpr1481 Tons of understeer? xD LOL ahahaha Where? 0:39? LMAO! Where you have "awfull understeer" at 77km/h? "Awfull understeer which is the most noticable at... the lowest attempt... ... :D Buy a faster brain. Attempt at 77km/h celearly proove that the car is really nice balanced, but steering inputs are not smooth enough. Guess you are both talking about "full tons of understeer", because car hit cones with a front bumper, am I right? Facepalm... Sorry, seems like you have no idea what are you talking about. Just next one dudes who take those (awesome) tests way too serious, focus only on speed and cones... Btw... "lazy movement"? In the attempt, where this guy steer back TWO times, and the car still stays stable, react immediately, and turn heavier than should without special problems? Try to do the same with 1 of Audis, or just watch A6, A7, Q8 attempts. Then tell me about tons of understeer and trashtalk about my eyes. Seriously... Have you watched more than 1 moose test?

@Manakuski

4 жыл бұрын

@@netuserist I believe partly the reason why the steering input is what it is, is due to the variable sport steering which makes it more difficult for the driver. I've driven a G20 320d xDrive with 225/50/R17 wheels now for over 40 000 kilometers and from my observation the car reacts incredibly well to steering input, there really is no understeer or oversteer as long as you don't push it over its limits. When you do, with DSC on it tends to understeer just a little, but with DSC off (in winter conditions) it is very easy to either oversteer (in a fun way) or to safely let the car understeer and let the tyres regain grip. This is entirely up to you as a driver. If you shift the weight of the car to the front and then let the rear of the car start to rotate and then press the accelerator, oh boy the fun on snow or ice in corners, it is so easy. This car is a masterpiece of engineering. Our car does not have variable sport steering and it is not an M-sport. It's with the standard suspension and tyres.

@kunalmore5212

3 жыл бұрын

@@Manakuski @netuserist I own a bmw m340i 2021 x drive. It has the msport suspension and msport differential. The car handles like a piece of heaven!! It’s like a go cart or even better than a go cart! It’s so darty and precise in its movement compared to the steering input that it baffles me many times! I wonder what magic bmw had done on this car but it’s simply superb!!! I owned an f30 320d before this and it handled good but nothing compared do the G20 M340i

perfect

81 km 👏👏👏

BMW es lo máximo

Who the hell was driving this car ? Stevie Wonder ?

@khg7339

4 жыл бұрын

Romeo B I think it’s got more to do with Bmw’s Active Steering and its variable gear ratio

@stevem2323

4 жыл бұрын

@@khg7339 Naaah, the driver.

@manuelrusu7052

4 жыл бұрын

It was Ray Charles! Much better than Stevie W.

@Mdaftz

4 жыл бұрын

This is definitely the driver not used to the steering

@stevem2323

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mdaftz Absolutely.

Damn such a nice handling

Se repite el patrón de siempre. Cuando el coche monta buenas gomas de serie, la pasada se hace a alta velocidad y sin despeinarse.

With diffrent driver i think it would do way much better

@RCoster47

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Saw this tests from other reviewers, results are very poor as well. G20 doesn't stand up to BMW high standards of previous generations, sadly

@private828

3 жыл бұрын

@@RCoster47 But looks like better than the M2 Competition...(See their another video test)

The best handling sedan ever great work bmw 🖒🖒😚🖒

The driver is was having a bad day when it came to reflexes

Sólo dejo por aquí... Nuevo 508 pasó a 80 sobrado (y con tracción delantera solamente). Siendo poseedor de un BMW (Serie 6 gran Coupe), puedo decir que lamentablemente "lo premium" de BMW empieza en la Serie 5 (o en su defecto, modelos customizados por Alpina, desde el D3 Biturbo).

@davidc.7838

5 жыл бұрын

Estás un poco perdido tío.

@corneliusscipio777

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidc.7838 nah, es una "continuación" de una discusión del vídeo del Moose test para el 508. Si él lo lee lo entenderá.

Xdrive?

Una de dos, o la dirección es demasiado directa en comparación con coches similares, o el conductor tuvo un mal día. Creo que puede conseguir resultados mejores, porque el coche parece no haberse acercado al límite en ningún momento.

@Gratal65

4 жыл бұрын

Yo diría que la dirección de paso variable no es la mejor aliada para ese tipo de maniobras, por lo demás el coche no parece pasar apuros, y estoy seguro de que podría superar la prueba a mayor velocidad.

@dpizarroX3M

3 жыл бұрын

Yo tengo un serie 3 y la dirección es pesada, por lo demás creo el auto pasa ok el test del alce sobre 100 km/h inclusive

BMW Barattoli su 4 ruote!

model3 moose test？

What about Volvo V60 or S60?

@scottysvensson

5 жыл бұрын

i think Better than 3er series 😏

¿¿¿¿¿¿¿Pa cuando la prueba del Q3 2019???????

La xdrive ayuda muchísimo

Nice

Behaviour of this car seems weird, it understeers and then just snaps in the direction where it should go. I'd love to watch it again with English subtitles.

@km77

5 жыл бұрын

Subtitles will be available in a few days ;-)

@MrAcDc2000

5 жыл бұрын

(0:13) This is the first attempt at the moose test with the BMW 3 Series. By coincidence, it was the fastest we could do it correctly. (0:21)More than the speed -that wasn't all that high- we need to say that the reactions of the car were good at all times and easy to control. (0:32) In the image we can see that the driver had to correct the trajectory within the second zone to get the car in a better position for the last zone. (0:42)This intervention is due to the driver, who wasn't used to the speed in the change of direction of the car. This unit had optional BMW's "Variable Sport", which has "M sport suspension", which stiffnes is fixed. (1:00)Other tries at higher speeds, like this one at 79km/h, we couldn't finish the test properly. Anyway, the car's reaction were still good and the tyre slip wasn't excessive. (1:17)In this attempt at 81 km/h, it's done with the Sport mode, which doesn't affect suspension, but it does affect to the stiffnes of the direction and the behaviour of the electronic stability control. The driver had a feeling very similar to the previous attempt. (1:39) Slalon At the beginning of the Slalon exercise, the BMW 3 Series transfers weigh with agilty and responds good to what the driver does with the wheel. But, at the end of the exercise, the trajectory was less clean and even the car moves with abruptly. The two attempts we show were done with the Comfort drive mode. (2:01)It is possible than that wouldn't have happened if the driver moved the steering wheel more softly. Anyway, the driving style was the usual: there are other cars that finish this excersice more softly while driving them in the same manner.

@arekb5951

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrAcDc2000 Wow, thank you for your effort, everything is clear now

@arekb5951

5 жыл бұрын

@@km77 Thank you, love your moose tests :)

@Manakuski

4 жыл бұрын

I can report from personal experience that a regular 320d xDrive G20 with 225/50/R17 Bridgestone Turanza T005 non-runflats and without M-sport or variable sport steering is a joy to drive and doesn't react or feel weird. However the DSC is quite aggressive, but that is why you have DTC or you can just turn off the DSC. I never experienced this kind of "snapping", but with aggressive operation of the steering wheel the DSC does brake a wheel immediatly, kinda like as a precaution. This behaviour is way more pronounced with northern winter tyres, (Continental icecontact 3, same size) and is a bit annoying sometimes. With DSC off, no problems though and the car feels like a good 3-series BMW should.

Y el Tesla?

Please test Jaguar xe

1：53 I see a new Mazda 3.

@waynewynnx7976

5 жыл бұрын

I see Lexus

Mejor el Mercedes C de hace unos días. Pese a pasar a menor velocidad sus reacciones han sido mucho mejores.

Volvo’s reaction: LOL

@davissilvestrs1996

5 жыл бұрын

Volvo is fwd garbage V90 and V90 XC only did 77-78 km/h lmao

ostias tío, "que la pasa" al conductor? XD estoy convencidisimo de que este coche la pasaría más rápido con otra persona al volante

@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288

5 жыл бұрын

Si lo haces tú igual no la superas ni a 70 Fitipaldi.

@davidvillar4470

5 жыл бұрын

@@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288 pues en esta ocasión te equivocas, parece que este conductor debe estar acostumbrado a conducir vehículos de tracción delantera.Es la primera vez que veo que la mayoría de los comentarios sobre el 90% opina lo mismo del conductor y se nota en muchos movimientos bruscos sobretodo en el eslalon.

@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidvillar4470 la mitad de los que aquí critican esta prueba no la pasan ni a 70

@luisz2853

5 жыл бұрын

Jose Manuel Pascual Hernández pues corre hazlo tu, Carlos sainz jajjajja

@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288

5 жыл бұрын

@@luisz2853 campeón de la peonza, lo has criticado tú, no estás tan convencidisimo??, ánimo y reta a los probadores de Km77, ten huevos ostias...

BMW 320d xDrove 2019 km77 cone72

Al conductor le faltaba adaptarse a la dirección del coche. De todas formas se ve perfectamente que el Serie 3 es un coche de que comporta genial

@wayzUX

11 ай бұрын

It went precisely and exactly where the wheel was pointed by the driver. So the driver was it's only limit. This is the best behaving car I've seen along with Alfa Romeo

Peugeot 508, Audi A5 y Alfa Romeo Giulia la referencia entre el chasis de las berlinas

@MichelOM1995

5 жыл бұрын

Pues yo veo a este coche capaz de pasar a 81 fácil, el conductor de este vídeo no parece ser el más habilidoso pues el coche en todo momento se mantiene estable.

@salvadordeli3085

5 жыл бұрын

Giulia has bad result too...

@luissantuzzi5891

5 жыл бұрын

@@salvadordeli3085 bad results????? Are you joke??? 82 km/h without understeer or oversteer

@salvadordeli3085

5 жыл бұрын

@@luissantuzzi5891 how did u watch the test... best result of the Giulia is 78km...:)) Focus, 308, 508 and stinger have more best results....

Pero si gira antes de entrar en el primer carril, como quieres que lo haga bien??? 🤣

@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288

5 жыл бұрын

Cuanto Fitipaldi hay aquí.

@martinrey5894

5 жыл бұрын

Jose Manuel Pascual Hernández Solo estoy diciendo la verdad, no me gusta ese coche especialmente, es solo que se ve perfectamente el error...

Like a fast train 🚅

BMW, the best car in the world! BMW POWER!!🏎️❤️

@custom8883

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaahahha shit car

Is it really good...?

@Sherukka

5 жыл бұрын

No, it is not.

@fernandojohn1343

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sherukka Terrible results...low grips, unbalance of the chassis and uncontrolable dynamics.

i love how people come here to bash on bmw while praising toyota, hyundai or opel crossland x or some other ridiculous stuff :) these tests are not the same on all cars. I am sure if the driver would get to know the car BEFORE performing this test, it would turn out completely different for all tests performed. anyway, life is more than a moose test result, get the car you LIKE and stop hating on other people's preferences. And before anyone jumps on me, know that I actually drive a Skoda. cheers!

Please do the english subtitles, BMW's new 3 series is one of the most anticipated cars this year.

@user-wm3xg4et8r

5 жыл бұрын

и на русском плиз

4 жыл бұрын

klstrucker930419 - Is it though? Who wants one since Tesla released the Model 3?

Giulia 82km top!!!

Los cambios de direccion son raros. No se ven fluentes.

Parece que le faltó conectarse al conductor con el auto. No fue su día

Para cuando el tesla

El coche se ve muy nervioso

Vallahi anlamıyorum ben. Focus'un cayır cayır girdiği yerlere g20, cla falan giremiyor. Ya bu işte bir hile var ya şoförler beceriksiz ya da focus gerçekten iyi

La Giulia standard sembra essere meno nervosa e più stabile....

Now look at alfa romeo Giulia's test...

La velocidad no es de las mas altas pero el coche transmite mucha agilidad

This guy is not the best driver for this test.

@luissantuzzi5891

5 жыл бұрын

Or the chassis is not the best chassis for this test. Look the Alfa Giulia for a better chassis

@BoosterB96

5 жыл бұрын

cry

@brianlobo1512

4 жыл бұрын

If he’s hitting the first cone it’s the driver not the car

@stevem2323

4 жыл бұрын

@@luissantuzzi5891 So you are telling me that driver doesn't have the impact?

Siempre os veo y esta vez el conductor no conduce bien

@empireoj

5 жыл бұрын

No estoy de acuerdo amigo, si miras con atención el eslalon verás como se comportan la carrocería y las suspensiones del coche, no muy bien por más que el conductor entre de otras formas. Cada eslalon va perdiendo más bruscamente en control.

@cubevitam2954

5 жыл бұрын

@@empireoj me refiero a poner el volante recto para despues volver a girar en plena curba ,no al comportamiento del coche

give that car and in sport mode I can pass this test with 90 km 😁

El conductor iba borracho..

El condunctor no estay acostumbrado a este tipo de coche es la unica explicacion que veo....lo estay siempre corrigiendo la trayectoria quando no es necessario!!!

Jeep Wrangler please

Ништяк держится 👍

@vladimirpenner7499

3 жыл бұрын

Да где же? Не предсказуема. Как то дёргается в критических моментах. Машина для спортсменов и к которой надо хорошо привыкнуть иначе улетишь в ебеням.

I can't remember seeing a car nearly fail the slalom test. It was all over the place!

@MisoElEven

2 жыл бұрын

Any car is only as good as its driver :D I dont want to be harsh but these guys are far from the best drivers, of course to be fair the average bmw driver or a driver in general is also far from the best driver I guess..

1:47, eso va a pasar siempre con todos los tracciones traseras, por eso siempre el AWD gana en circuito.

@alb1122oli

5 жыл бұрын

Es xdrive, tracción total de BMW... www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzQUZL3pwajI&ved=2ahUKEwi-053VivrhAhUvAmMBHSglCFIQjjgwAHoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0rgfplNVS16gPvLylI6cpM Nunca he conducido un xdrive, pero interesante.

✌ TM3 !!!!

Habéis contratado un manco para la prueba?

@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288

5 жыл бұрын

Seguro que si lo haces tú lo harías mejor, si supieras el nivel de los que hacen la prueba posiblemente no comentarias nada Sr Vettel

@javiergarridogutierrez6395

5 жыл бұрын

Desmultiplicación de la dirección.

@carodga

5 жыл бұрын

No dudo de sus habilidades pero no fue su mejor día ( el mismo narrador menciona que tuvo que corregir la trayectoria) Si es un problema de una dirección muy rápida, en sucesivos se debería haber corregido No quise ofender a nadie pero repito se veo poco fluido y no parece venir del coche...

@juanluiscanetemangas1307

5 жыл бұрын

@@josemanuelpascualhernandez1288 no se ofenda usted Lewis Hamilton

This test is not successful for new 3 series mediocre could have been a little bit disappointing

Siempre podréis decir... Hola BMW necesito un pañuelo.. Se acabó ser la referencia del segmento.

No no el conductor no sabe manejar es un vmw m3... ese se paega.. en la ruta

Cuanto piloto sin trabajo jajaja

Honda Jazz de 14.000€ lo hace mucho mejor. Ver video

@inox1ck

5 жыл бұрын

Luc Lyc if you think that is safer good luck with that

@raulgarcia-abadillo8598

3 жыл бұрын

El focus lo hace muchísimo mejor también

I think it could have been as fast as the Giulia, but not as composed and easy to drive kzread.info/dash/bejne/doGMzKVuqdfbkbw.html Another test showing how unbalanced the 2019 3 series is. Suspensions are very firm and unpredictable

ドライバー替えたほうがいい

The 508 is better for less price.... and better style

@dorian.m9340

5 жыл бұрын

@Laich F. The reality hurt you I see

@salvadordeli3085

5 жыл бұрын

@@dorian.m9340 he is stupid BMW fan boy...:)))

@danieln1813

5 жыл бұрын

Usually I don't trust people praising a car that is on their profile picture 🤔

@dorian.m9340

5 жыл бұрын

@@danieln1813 I just compare those two car and, I see the 508 is better :/

alfa romeo giulia 🥰🥰😌😌😌😌😌

novice driver ?

@TubesWidener

5 жыл бұрын

Nope, he is at least better than most of ordinary drivers. That is why the ESP and suspension should make the ordinary drivers feel more in control and make it feel secure for most drivers. Which is obviously and sadly not the case in this model!!

@stevem2323

3 жыл бұрын

@@TubesWidener huh? Come again? This fucking car is perfect to drive.

Giulia did it better

the slalom is not very good

I think the best Sedan stay Alfa Romeo Giulia

Giulia is better! 💪🇮🇹