I am one of the minority, I prefer the looks of this version to the massive looks and feel of prior generations. For me, headlights always come down to function over fashion; how do they illuminate at night matters far more to me than any style points. I deeply appreciate the everyman reviews like this moreso than the "watch me interview the designer on the launch team" any day and that's on of the hallmark's of Andy's reviews. Quality information over quantity all day long.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Wow thank you

@simulacrae

6 ай бұрын

Most people will prefer the looks, there's just a very loud minority that will find any venue to whine about how it looks. I love the new looks and the only issue I have is that BMW seems to not want to take this looks over to smaller bikes. The new 900GS looks almost exactly like a Honda.

@martyn_g

6 ай бұрын

@@simulacraeI’d suggest the 900 looks more like a Tenere 700 to me!

@martyn_g

6 ай бұрын

Headlight- you’re totally correct on that one. I have a 1250GSA - I actually think it looks awkward, especially the headlight, but I focus on the way it rides - it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. And the headlight looks really awkward, lol

@Cartsp70

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer I totally agree with the fact that nobody should be even remotely interested in what’s on their phone 📱 Just ride the bike, enjoy it , take it all in. Leave your phone in your pocket and live a little! Great review btw 👍🏾

Love how practical and honest you are. You represent the real man. Thanks again Andy.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

Don't understand why folks think more complex electros are good, especially on a bike. Guess I'm just olde fashioned, or old anyway....

@Jonathan-L

6 ай бұрын

Spark plugs, lights & horn are all I need :)

@Jonathan-L

6 ай бұрын

@@Banditmanuk My first motorcycle was an 'adventure' bike, which was 49 years ago ... A Honda Z50A. It even ran without a battery, although the horn would stutter (rectified DC power) and change pitch according to the engine speed, and the lights would go dim when the engine idled, but I never rode it in the dark anyway. Why did I call it an adventure bike you may ask? ... My definition of adventure as a kid was simply going somewhere different each time I went for a ride :)

@Jonathan-L

6 ай бұрын

@@FFVoyager Yes, it can be a bit of a gamble. There's virtually no new bike that doesn't have some form of 'smarts' in the system (starting with EFI). As for long term parts availablity ... I fear that in time a lot of bikes will just end up getting scrapped. Having said that, I wonder what happened to my old TZ250 that I raced back in the 80s.

@Banditmanuk

6 ай бұрын

@@Jonathan-L Stuff like central locking on the panniers is a great example of stuff I can live without and tech I would be concerned about failing when out on tour. I'll no doubt be labeled a dinosaur.....

@oldfella4096

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely less is more, a good strong engine, good brakes and good handling, speedo and rev counter at a sensible on the road price and you don't have to save up all year to pay the service department is all I ask for.... If manufacturers keep going like this they will be adding two more wheels and calling it a car😮

Great review again on the GS and doing normal everyday riding and showing us an insight into the main aspects of the bike. Glad your on the mend, too, and able to get back on a bike. Take care and ride safe

Really useful real world test. Not sure many of us are overly interested in the spec sheets and those that are can easily find them online. Looks may grow over time - the previous asymmetric headlight was so iconic. That blank space is an issue for me though. Fantastic work as always, really looking forward to this series.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

This is why I love your channel, Andy. You do REAL riding, what all of us do 90% of the time. It makes for way more relevant reviews.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

I'm glad you think that - I try and point out the things that are important to me as a "normal" rider...

@SuperchargedLlama

6 ай бұрын

Hear, hear!

You could really hear the difference in wind noise when you lowered the screen and raised it again. Informative video, and always like location spotting on what were my local roads back in the day.

Wow! I’ve been waiting a long time for this one! So glad to tune in to hear your assessment.

A great review Andy. Undoubtedly the best in the class for completeness. I'm not sold on the looks myself and Its funny that they can put lights in the panniers, but not in the switch gear. Its too expensive for me. A Tiger 900 would do the same job as it has done for you in Japan. I can see a new GS heading for the TMF fleet in the future

Andy said the magic words I have been waiting for a reviewer to say, aside from the looks, this GS is better than the outgoing model in every way. IMO people will get used to the looks and this motorcycle will continue to sell extremely well.

Good approach on the review. No spec coverage, just straight to riding. Love the white van sarcasm.

Great great review. I agree on the buttons, for me anything that I need to change while going down the road should have a button versus a menu selection. Great information to pass along, thank you so much for now I will hold on to my 1250 and see how things work out with the 1300.

Great vid as always and thanks for covering the luggage. For me it’s a touring bike and luggage is a daily feature. Changing from a tiger with expedition panniers / bags to a gs with vario luggage and bags I was surprised how much less the GS took. It’s unrealistic to take the whole panniers with you when you are far from your hotel as they have no straps / are cumbersome in 35 degree heat. If you can scrounge the bags from bmw I’d love to know their practicality (will they fit a 15” laptop when i’m away for months and want to edit my trip videos etc), do they lose a lot of the naked pannier size as awkward shape and any other real life touring experience. Cheers

Good review Andy, your commentary gave me a real sense of what the thing feels like to ride. Which is the whole point I suppose, Good job.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

A great, practical review, Mr Flyer. When you're doing the Connectivity Gizmo review, it would be great to see how much the TFT menus have changed from the 1250. Enjoy your time on the bike!

That was a great first review Andy, and a good idea to concentrate on real world performance rather than spec sheets. I hope you can try the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio later in the year, it'd be interesting to hear your comparisons whilst you still have the GS.

Thanks Andy. I can still remember when manufacturers in the late 80’s / early 90’s claimed about “anti dive” and then the claims disappeared. BMW, have just seemed to be the ones who stuck with it and ultimately mastered it. It’s a weird sensation when you aren’t used to it today. Definitely better from a pillion perspective. 👍😎🇦🇺

@chrishart8548

6 ай бұрын

The anti dive was very crude and complicated. It linked the brake lines with the damping in the forks to lock out the damping. Mainly just an extra place for the forks or brakes to have an extra failure point.

Great review nice to get a different perspective on the bike than other channels who covered the bike initially.. thanks for the video. Great job

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Lots more to come….not all of it good!

Well worth the wait for this superb review! In my opinion, definitely a good call waiting for the initial hype to bow out. A brilliant real-world honest account of day to day riding on this machine. The looks have obviously been divisive especially the front end, but now seeing that radar in action I dunno, the front makes more sense to me now, and therefore I think I’m warming to it. I am high on post-op codeine, though! Great to see you back in the saddle, sir, and thanks for this excellent down-to-earth review - I think many thousands of people are going to find it super-useful as they contemplate the move up from the older GSs, and also many many others who are considering the shift across to the BM. Great stuff!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Cheers Jez - hope you’re off the codeine soon (I hated that stuff!)

I thought you would be impressed with the bike . The performance of any headlight,, not its looks, is the important aspect for me . The only development I feel BMW didn't do, was to make this new engine fully water cooled .A great first ride review Andy . Your new camera is fantastic.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@MrFlowerfred

5 ай бұрын

Great review as always. I just ordered one. Same colour but not the gold wheels as I'm nowhere near as tidy with my bikes as you are! 😉

Nice seeing you back on the road whatever bike you’re on!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you - this was my first ride since my op..

This has got to be one of the best bike reviews I’ve ever seen Nice and refreshing to watch

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

I think the new bike is a huge improvement over the fugly pile of scaffolding that was the old bike. An effective headlight is a huge benefit to me when night riding, and great to see a really effective dip, as many bikes are good on main beam, but naff on dip. I couldn't live with that navigation screen though, both the night brightness and obscuring the view.

@idahorx1

5 ай бұрын

Having ridden 3 bikes with adaptive headlights, I'd never ride without one, at least on my primary machine. Such a huge difference on a twisty mountain road. Should be mandatory equipment on a bike. Much prefer the lighter weight of the new one-it's in the realm of a KTM. And like that they finally got rid of the asymmetric headlights, always made the GSs look lopsided, if easy to recognize.

Undoubtedly a beautiful bike. I like that you find it hard to fault, compared to the Honda Africa Twin that I recently tried which you were quite critical of. The surprising thing to me when I recently test rode an AT DCT is that found that hard to fault, immediately loving it. Like the GS the AT is a beautifully well engineered machine, but to my eyes the Honda is such a handsome bike and that gives it character. This demonstrates the importance of test riding them, because it's how a bike makes you feel that's important, and that's a personal thing.

@dashuntas.m4045

6 ай бұрын

I think the AT is the best looking Adv Bike out there, the front end is badass and the bike just looks ready to take on anything.

@UncleWally3

6 ай бұрын

I’ve put thousands of kilometers on an RT but only a few hundred on a GS. While I like the GS I bought an Africa Twin DCT and, after a serious bout of buyer’s remorse, grew to love it. For me, after 50+ years on many bikes, the Africa Twin is the best “all rounder” bike that I’ve ever owned.

@chrishall734

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree. Test rode a 1250 gs several times as they’re meant to be the best but every time I haven’t “loved it”. Tried a africa twin and I was sold in 5 minutes. Weird isn’t it?

@IngramCars

6 ай бұрын

@@chrishall734 Agreed. I also agreed with Richy Vida, and so impressed by the AT I just bought a brand new one.

@abudhabidel1

6 ай бұрын

@@UncleWally3 I too have been in the saddle for 50+ years, My Triple Black 1250 GS really the most complete, all round, bike I've ever owned.....but would be even better with DCT. It's a long way from my first ride - also black - a Norman Nippy! Take care.

the TFT looks really nice, and i like the split screen with the top one being the nav aid.

Great first ride video, I am also getting to grips with my Triple Black!! I have my Nav 6 in my cradle which is best option (had RT with connect app) also find shifter and box bit stiff but hoping will get better at moment only have 300 miles on clock… can’t wait to do some tours but as you say, so far what a great bike!!

Looks amazing. I know you won't get to ride this one off asphalt, but I am interested to see how the new model feels on green lanes/sand. Great review.

Hi Andy, this was the one I have been waiting for, a real world review, and you did not disappoint. There have been many detractors about GS's, and the people who own and ride them, generally the rider who opts for a GS has been there and done it and want's a bike that does everything really well, reliably. I know you are keen to replace your old GS, but do you think it may be wise also to consider the new GSA as a replacement when it comes out later this year, hopefully. It could have the best of both worlds being lighter than the old one, but having more road presence than the GS. Thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Indeed I do!

I currently ride a lowered 1250GS however nobody in the reviews seems to not cover how this new 1300 lowers itself at a standstill. Any chance you could do a video on this 👍🏼

@auscurrymaster

6 ай бұрын

Check out Nothing to Prove - he's done video on that subject but, yes, agree it needs covering in detail as it could be a key feature which may bring me back to GSs

@rhettbenton

6 ай бұрын

Yes, height factors is an issue for me too. Also, keep track of pettol use in US gallins too! Great job!

@RobertCrawford5017

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for mentioning the frame-lowering feature in Nothing to Prove. I followed all the KZread reviews for the new R1300 GS. The frame-lowering feature is critical for me. All BMW needs now is to license Honda's DSC technology. I loved DSC on my Honda Goldwing Tourer.

I'm liking your new camera, especially the night shots.

I've been waiting for this Andy and you did not disappoint, thankyou. For someone who's never ridden a GS (I'm more an FJR man), I think it is time to take a test ride. Cheers.

Great review of what is no doubt going to be a best seller. But £23k and you don’t get a independent brake light, you have to ask yourself if the sub 800mm high brake indicator combo is safe why are cars and vans forced to have high level brake lights for safety reasons?

@Cartsp70

6 ай бұрын

Have you actually ridden the bike? I doubt it, try leaving the house and go ride it .. then comment 👍🏾

@ticthedog6095

6 ай бұрын

@@Cartsp70 You sound very angry, did you come home from work last night and find your mrs in bed with your best mate? I’ve ridden a GS1300 today, picked up my mates bike which has been repaired under warranty with a faulty starter solenoid, the weather was pants on the way home but the bike rides brilliantly which I never doubted. I’m still sticking with my opinion on the indicator brake light combo, I mean the top box has central locking, interior light but no independent brake light.

@Cartsp70

6 ай бұрын

@@ticthedog6095 oh well 🤷🏾

I’ve said it before, I love the fact that you do show what the lights are like at night. The lack of illuminated switch gear is a killer for me though. A high end bike with all those buttons and options should have switch illumination these days to match the competition. Not for me.

@andrewjames777

6 ай бұрын

I ride a lot at night and can remember where all my controls are by touch and muscle memory. Maybe the backlit switchgear is made for novices.

@GDM22

6 ай бұрын

Yeah not sure that is a valid reason to dismiss a bike, you must do a lot of night riding, without street lights and also struggle to learn your controls.

@jamesschneider3828

6 ай бұрын

The thing is, what % of riding at night will one be doing and what type of roads will you be riding at night? I've lived for 60 years without lighted switch gear and never had a problem after I learned where and how the controls work.

One thing that BMW always does well is ergonomics and yet again they haven't disappointed. I love the colour display and the efficient way BMW uses the colours (the coolant temperature controlled variable red line for example). I also love the command wheel and the placing of the switch gear. As to the engine: they keep being committed to make that boxer the best it can be and personally I think that's just great. The icing on the cake for me is that BMW proprietary navigation unit, that seamlessly integrates with the bike to become both a navigation screen and an extended system screen that adds to what the main screen displays. Yet again a very nice review Andy. It's always a pleasure to see and hear a real-life review of a bike. I love how you keep your fact and your opinions clearly separated.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

That's very kind of you to say - thank you!

Thank you for your time with these awesome reviews you help us common folks out tremendously

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Its a shame that it doesn't have the adaptive ride height feature for you to try, i think that would be a great option. Hopefully your shoulder is getting better!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Sadly my shoulder is worse - I won't bore you with the details but I have another operation to go at least! BMW said they will lend me another with adaptive ride height to try so stay tuned!

@DaleMt09sp

6 ай бұрын

Only the vertically challenged would want that feature normal size folk couldn’t care less

@philipTOMPSETT

6 ай бұрын

I agree as I bought a lowered suspension 1250 last year and i’m really interested in a comparison to the uppydowny auto thing at junctions.

"This road is hideous", do you not watch Itchy Boots 😂

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne

6 ай бұрын

I don't. I gave up when she began putting up clickbait titles. I find "One Man One Bike" a way better channel.

That top screen is really bright TMF, you are right!

Nice bike, nice video. Thank you! Also enamored of the blind spot monitoring around town and on the freeway (motorway).

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Yes that is a brilliant feature (as is the active cruise control)

Let me be frank... After over 100 years BMW should know how to build their traditional model. However, still a clunky gearbox. You can now configure a button to act as the heated grip button... It all does not sound as progress. Quicker? If you are a responsible rider you know you can hardly use that power in today's traffic. Do not get me wrong, I am not knocking your review, you do a good job. I do knock the GS 1300 (and other modern bikes). I also understand the final drive unit will have to be replaced every 60.000 km, always under warranty. I did read that recently. Progress? A well maintained final drive used to last almost the life time of the bike. On my old Pan it was still OK after over 100.000 miles... I will never buy a new bike or car. I hate depreciation and I will not spend the money, so it is irrelevant to me personally. However... my (for me new) 2001 R1150RT has a clumsy gearbox and engine (the 'KFR' syndrome), yet it does have a heated grip button and a final drive that has to be well maintained, yet does not have to be mandatory replaced every 60.000 km. OK, it is not as frugal as the more modern boxer twin and the modern one runs better. But still, I only paid 2700 EUR for a 1 owner, full service history RT... I can buy a lot of petrol and fund a lot of maintenance for the money I did not spend on purchasing the bike... However I do envy the green and gold color scheme, that is really beautiful in my eyes. Much more so than my silver RT! All the best with your shoulder.

@stephenmundane

6 ай бұрын

Well said.

10:11 He was probably worried for a sec there. Yeah great bike, I even love the dark forest green. 🌲🏁

Cheers Andy .. a real world review. Interesting .. all the talk of weight loss and you don’t notice much difference moving it around. A potential selling point for me for the future.

Morning Andy. The review I’ve been waiting for. I like your style, if you like the bike I’m absolutely sure I will. I have much the same concerns. You addressed them. I wouldn’t worry to much about the looks of the front, you can’t see it when your siting on it. I guess I will just have to wait and see what it rides like on a nice sunny day. One is on my wish list for some day. I am still in love with my 1200 despite the shifter. The rest of it is just so good. PS I keep my key fob in my jacket pocket. Some scroat might nick the bike if I left it in the little compartment. Thanks looking forward to hearing more of your practical everyday opinions about this bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words as ever John!

Hi Andy. I tested one this weekend. Hugely impressed. Couldn’t get on with both 1000 and 1100 AT DCTs … the Tiger I bought doesn’t do it for me but this did. I’m 99% … need that push over the line … Looking forward to your next review. We are the same size and shape and auto lowering / rising on the GS was fabulous. Wind it on and it’s like a comfy sportsbike. Thanks for your great content. ( and thanks to Mrs Flyer too)

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Our pleasure Andrew - thank you for watching!

It was the Same reg number as the bike in this video so I presumed it was 👍. The bike looked great, I will watch your reviews with interest. I’m sort of waiting for the GS Adventure

Have been waiting impatiently for this very review. All good points as usual. For me, it all came down to the look of the bike. Couldn’t be happier with my 2023 R 1250 GS.

Well done, Sir. Bravo. Overall a very good review and I will await to see/hear more about this all new R1300GS. I will add that perhaps the all new R1300GSA will have a larger road presence. Me personally, I always liked the GS looks over the GSA for their R1200/1250 series.

A great first impressions review. As someone who didn't like the looks of the outgoing GS, I really like the new look, your new camera was fantastic, especially the night time headlight shots, it was nice to see the train station car park again, but please take it easy on your shoulder for a while. I think the front cruise radar plastics looks the perfect location for a TMF sticker, available online now. 😀

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

I tried a sticker on there earlier - it fell off!!

Hi great video loved the blind spot warning noticed it when you were on motorway wish all bikes had it ! Cheers Andy 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍 and yes that is a great feature…

Thanks for another great review. Looking forward to the one with the ms as a pillion and see if she feels the same as my wife did as a pillion. Turning circle was amazing! Enjoy and stay safe!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Yes it is good in tight spots - since I filmed this I now have a topbox too so I'll take the Mrs out on the back ASAP and let you know....

@GreyBeardOnTwoWheels

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer Take the ms on a bumpy road and over some speed bumps (if you got any) and ask her if there is room enough without bumping helmets! I think you will be surprised! I am not gone trade my 2022 GSA!

Great vid as normal Andy .. I noticed at the 16.09 mark when you were on the motorway a warning triangle appeared in the mirror when a car was over taking you ..I thought that was a nice touch as I have been caught out a few times over the years when not paying attention to what is happening behind me after miles an miles on the motorway and you pointed it out later in ya vid ...nice touch Mr BMW ..

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Yes blind spot monitoring is brilliant

Great review Andy! Re heated grips/seat and electric windshield, preselect the windshield from the hamburger menu as your default for the up/down button. If you then long press the hamburger button, it will bring up a heated grips/seat menu on the main TFT screen which can then be adjusted by the up/down button. After a few seconds this menu disappears leaving the up/down button to control the screen again. This avoids constantly having to reassign the up/down button.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

I must look into that!

Looks like a winner! Looking forward to your ConnectedRide Navigator review.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Coming soon!

Three things, 1 go down Starbucks Saturday morning and ask some fellow GS riders how the hell everything works. 2 Read the instruction book and look on YT. Enjoy the features and learn them. Much safer that way. 3 Comment on the old GS, FOR SALE. Now when you get one opt for the centerstand and controller. It will save your shoulder. It has a self help rize feature similar to Harley and KTM. Yes, more items to go wrong but great when they are working. Presence on road. We have waited over forty years for a more powerful, compact and agile GS. We got it now. The new GS ADV will have presence form what I have seen. Safe riding. Be glad when the boss box arrives and get her take. Take care, safe rides.

A really interesting and comprehensive first ride review, TMF. Thanks for that. I noticed quite a bit of annoying reflection on the inside of the screen and from the side wind deflectors...interesting to know if that is an issue going forward, or it might just be due to where you have the camera mounted, rather than what the rider's eyes actually see.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Yes I hadn't noticed it until you mentioned it - I will pay attention!

Very nice,looking forward to the rest of your reviews on this.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Coming soon!

The night camera worked a treat. Spot on!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Good wasn’t it!

I goofed and watched this video after watching the 1200/1300 comparison. I’m 67 but do really like the technology, especially the blind spot monitoring and adaptive cruise control. I’m still having a major issue with the visuals, although the side view is growing on me, especially with the panniers which are a good size. It will be interesting to see how it looks with the top box and what Mrs.Flyer thinks of the pillion position comfort. Looking forward to seeing the video for the upper screen, but the TFT is very impressive. Braking, fork dive and tire grip look great.

I was looking to buy a 1250 gsa but when I heard the 1300 was coming out I decided to wait. Since I ll be keeping the bike for years, I am 99% sure of getting the new 1300. Just waiting for it to come to USA and do a test ride. Thanks for the video..

Great review Andy covering the stuff we want to know. I’ve recently chopped in my 1250 GS for an adventure. I’d seen the new 1300 but wasn’t convinced on the looks or the apparent reduction in physical size. Look as if it wouldn’t accommodate rider and pillion as well as my GS. I will get a test ride at some point. Thing that strikes me every time I see one is the way it doesn’t appear to have a cockpit The TFT and Nav prep just seem stacked up in front of you. I think I’d prefer the winglets at the side to be solid rather than transparent. Think this would also go some way to giving the bike a bit more presence like the old model. Mind you, I’ve a GSA and that looks like there’s a house coming down the road at you.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Very true!

Like the blind spot light in the mirror on the motorway and love the colour

Its funny, like many, I didn’t like the looks at first, but it’s been a few months since the release, I’ve seen some bikes in the flesh and as you say it is better than pictures suggest. Problem is there’s no way I could put that in my garage, walk away and look back at it without feeling slightly ill. Whatever anyone says, looks matter, and if you’re buying this particular version, at £26,000 including luggage, you’d jolly well better like the looks! I hope this trend of ever more eye watering prices falls off a cliff soon - even on PCP these must start to be unaffordable. I dread to think what the balloon payment will be. Thank goodness there’s a thriving low and midrange sector with some great bikes. A great in depth review covering some aspects I’ve not heard of in other reviews, and yes the camera looked excellent. Well done and keep the high quality content coming!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Good review Mr Flyer! I've pretty much stopped watching reviews from official launches as they always seem less than true to life (exception being anything by Simon Hargreaves which I'll certainly watch!), so well done in waiting until you could test it on home territory.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you - and yes, I wouldn’t trust anything from a non seasoned journo at a launch….

Great vid 👍 I’ve been waiting for your opinion on this , I’m not entirely sure about the looks but it’s starting to grow on me ,looking forward to seeing you touring on it two up with Mrs Flyer . Take care with that shoulder though .

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Not really likely to be a GS owner owner new or otherwise but thoroughly enjoyed your review. The bike 'lugging' element is always interesting and missed by most testers apart from Freddy's hilarious efforts to show a bikes lean angle . Amazed at the modern tech on bikes now. Cheers

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Yes I like Freddies lean angle test too - got disaster written all over it!!! Great fun to watch....

Great, sensible review Andy.. Noticed you pandered to the 'will a helmet fit in pannier' brigade, as I guess you have to haha. 😉

Mate, as an aspiring KZreadr myself, I love how you have your helmet audio sorted so well. I’m still experiementing. I’m glad they haven’t put that god awful wide screen they have on the RT on this GS, and i agree they phone connectivity on all the platforms is terrible. Just make em all Carplay ready. Thx as always

Great initial video. Look after it as it's bound to become yours 😁

That’s one proper review in typical uk weather. Nice one. Seems to go very well.

Great show as always and first trustworthy first impressions review on the new GS for not following the official BMW script. Thumbs up ! Only ground for minimal discontent is you didn't take the usual route through Marlow and over the Thames bridge for urban testing. But I think that's excusable for this time. 😉👍🏼

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Next time!

Good review as all ways , to my eye i think its better looking than its predecessors sleeker and more purposeful .

Great review Andy as usual. The looks for a lot of people are like marmite at the moment but with all the bike reviews I watch on KZread, reviewers comments depend on your physical size and how you like to ride a bike. I have a high mileage 1250 gsa, brill bike, pulls like a tractor from no revs which leads to very relaxed riding style and I use it to 2up quite a lot. The new 1300 has fantastic torque and is great to ride. I’m also fortunate to own an XR. When I come back from a spin on that, it certainly puts a grin on your face and I think the 1300 is heading that direction having ridden it. The XR, the Multistrada require a little more gear changing but I think that adds to the fun element plus they both have a proper quickshifter so the riding experience is different. It just depends what you want. Also,you still have to get to 2nd or 3rd on the 1300 before the gearshift works really well. At 6’3 the bike is a little small for me but perfectly suited to you. I just hope BMW use a different size frame and just don’t jack up the 1300 on higher suspension to become a GSA. I also noticed on KZread that if you want to fit SW Motech aluminium boxes you have to remove the electronic bits that the BMW luggage clips into and it affects the looks at the back of the bike. It looks great with the new BMW luggage and is an ideal ‘ adventure touring bike ‘,as that’s how it will be used by 95% owners. The luggage looks nearly like what you get on an RT which which begs the question, with suspension lowering on the 1300 why buy an RT in the future 😳 It’s interesting the route BMW has taken with the bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Indeed - I'm pretty much in agreement with you all round.....

We agree on many design/ride preferences. I rode my Guzzi home yesterday. My first impression is positive though I was limited by weather that resembles your conditions. Spring cannot arrive soon enough for me. Be careful with your shoulder, Andy.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I have ridden the GS1300 and found it good. I agree with previous comment below in that the light is great and function overrides the look, considering the great lights. Currently 34 celcius here in Christchurch New Zealand so sitting under the air conditioning. Max of 25 degrees more riding temperature

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Nice….

Great video, look forward to see more reviews on this bike. As for the looks, my only grumble is the green paint scheme is very striking but why didn’t they paint the side silver fairing in green with gold GS text, just would have stood out a bit better. 😊

Capacious lol. Thats another new word for me. Every day is a school day. Great review TMF

Enjoyed that Andy and your thoughts and concerns echo mine. Also the sound on your new cam setup is superb mate. Nice one.👌🏍️🎥

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

That osmo is sooo much better than the GoPro - thank you for making me switch!

Stunning colour bike and look like a winner if your a GS fan boy look forward to more thoughts on the bike Andy 👍

Thats a great camera your using. Video is crystal clear. Bike suits you very well to 😊

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! 🙂

Tks Mr Flyer for the usual first time rider video, presented in layman terms. Still not convinced of the front view, but the rest looks an improvement. My only concern for BMW would be, have they done enough to bring more riders to their brand from others, also is it good enough for present GS owners to upgrade when ready. Also, with reference to the adaptive cruise control, which is one 'toy' I think is useful, would be on the 'odd' occasion you get the inconsiderate driver who overtakes, then 'cuts' you up, slows down as they 'forget' they need to exit the road at this junction, causing you to do an 'emergency' stop, which is frightening enough in a car/HGV, so on a bike could be underpant changing. Just something to be aware of, especially when using it on dual carriageways and motorways.

Well worth waiting for an excelent first thoughts video.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Great real world objective review. Will definitely be a great sales success for the rider it suits. A tip on lifting bike of side stand. Turn handle bars to the right completely first , then push. It will feel half the weight👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips!

Superb video TMF, really excited about this bike. Thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

No worries mate!

Hi… regarding the sat nav brightness, go into settings & select auto. It should then switch to night mode without blinding you 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

It’s set in auto already!

Great review as ever, always keen to hear your view on these bikes. I’m not such a fan of these new sound clips of yours, a bit naff for my taste. Otherwise a cracking start to TMF24

Nice review in uk weather TMF, I might give it a try but the danger is doing my usual and end up buying one and really I don’t need to upgrade my 1250 (think I’d go for the triple black version). I’m also onto my second 750 and last the new model although more or less the same rides much better and is really smooth, it’s my preferred bike to take out. That said I may look at the new 800 when it arrives in the dealer but again don’t need to update that one either.

Great test Andy, it's an impressive bike, for sure!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Good report, Andy. As you know too well by now, not my kind of machine but this certainly appears to cover a broad and comprehensive overview for those contemplating this bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing your final review as you gain more knowledge and mileage on the new GS. At the end of your long term ownership, and Mrs Flyer has had a good amount of pillion time as well, whether or not it impresses both of you enough to consider upgrading your current GS to the new one.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

We shall see - putting plenty of miles on it so far to find out!

High Andy. Thanks for the review, I like this GS more than previous models. For radar cruise controls you may like to try testing what the vehicle does when a) Speed is restricted by a vehicle in front and you change to adjacent empty lane and b) the opposite when your in an empty lane and you switch to a lane with a vehicle in front. The way bike applies power or brakes to adjust the speed on some marques is really unpredictable, sometimes near full throttle is applied to get back up to speed.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Yes there are some use cases where it isn’t great I agree, but in the main it’s brilliant (especially for resting my dodgy shoulders on long motorway runs)….

Programmable button: Short press up or down to adjust the windscreen, long press to put heating grips on and off. It's still easy to use.

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 ай бұрын

I find it a faff!

Nice one Andy another insightful vid as usual, it will be interesting to see when you buy one later this year 😁👍😉

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

🙂

Hello! With this bike you can make a spectacular tour on the Iberia peninsula. From north to south Spain and Portugal. Just need to catch the ferry to Santander in Spain. All the best.

Looking forward to seeing the review on the GPS thingy. Interested to see if I should order one

Most important review of the bike,worth. waiting for 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thanks ✌️

Hi Andy. As a non GS or boxer engine fanboy, I was still intrigued to view your comments. Well as usual, you kept me watching for 30 plus minutes so well done, great vid and this is some machine. I think the looks blow the old version out of the water and BMW will sell stacks of these 1300's. They do everything well but not yet for me. Cannot personally get around that Boxer engine verses my riding style but hey, still looking forward to your content on this bike as it is so well balanced. Just wish all bikes were so comprehensively appointed with the tech. Love the blind spot and active cruise. Keep up the good work and hope your injury sorts itself out soon. 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Thank you Bob!

Thank you for showing us wet road riding. It looks safe with hard braking.

An amazing motorcycle in all of the ways that you say. Glad that yiou can;t see the headlight while yoiu are riding it but what a throw of light at night. The adaptive cruse control looks to be very state of the art. I await your what's it like to crash into a brick wall review! The vario paniers are now truely variable as they are not the usual in or out. Can you use them to compress your stuff a bit by squeezing with the wheel? Excellent review.

Great bike I love it and all the electronic aids Agree would be nice to have buttons for the screen and grips I have the BMW Connected App on my phone and it posts the current speed limit in the dash as long as you have downloaded the maps into the app for the area you are in and where ever you may go Absolutely brilliant bike although I would still take my F750GS when green lining Also I love the self lowering suspension on my 1300 Back lighting on the switches would be good I have the auxiliary leds on mine but don't like the lack of a rear light J

Hi Andy 👋 So good to see you back out on 2 wheels ( hope this means that your shoulder is recovering well from the surgery 👍) Great first review buddy..... love you think that it is better than the out going GS!! With you being a GS owner and Fanboy, that already tells us everything that we need to know about the 1300 😃😃. I do find it incredible ( and not in a good way) that a premium brand like BMW and lets face it...... you do pay for the quality, don't do back lite switch gear 😢 I'm generally really surprised by this omission 🤦‍♂️ Also can't believe that the quickshifter is still clunky!!! I test rode the mighty 1250 RT ( lovely machine) and I found the quickshifter on that had to be "shall we say nursed??". Too lower revs or just not enough load on the motor and it wouldn't upshift. Equally, pushing on into the higher revs, it would change up but my God....... I thought I broken it the change was that rough 😕 Same down shifting, unless you found the sweet spot between revs and engine loading, it was horrible. That said though, when you did find it, the up or down shift was perfectly acceptable 👌 Shame that they still haven't sorted that. If I was in the market for a GS, that would be a deal breaker for me!! The quickshifter on my old Trumpet (1200 RS ) was smooth and precise and don't get me started on how good the quickshifter is on my H2SX!!!! After experiencing those gear boxes I could never live with clunky 😉 Looking forward to seeing how you get on with that connectivity hub / Sat Nav devive, I genuinely couldn't ride at night with that intense glare in my face 😮 I'd end up wanting to cover it with something...... completely defeating the purpose of it in the first place!! Will you be doing a direct back to back comparison with your GS ( ie ride yours down 'Pot hole Lane. Then jump straight onto the 1300 and ride that down Pot Hole Lane etc etc ) ?? As ever Andy, keep up your excellent work and shall very much look forward to your next video All the best Russ

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

Hi Russ - Yes I am able to ride now but alas there have been complications and I need another operation, my shoulder is actually worse now than before the op!! As far as the GS goes it is better on paper than my old R1200 for sure - I have comparisons coming up of the new bike versus my 1200 and then another of the new bike versus the R1250.....the difference isn't as great as you may think! Thanks for watching as ever - A

@russellfletcher114

6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, so sorry to hear that there have been complications from your operation and that 'its worse now" I genuinely hope that these complications don't impact on your day to day life too much buddy and of course that you are still able to ride 👍 I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that you will be fighting fit again real soon 🤞 Take good care of yourself Andy Best wishes Russ

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 ай бұрын

@@russellfletcher114 Thanks Russ...