BMW i3 120Ah battery upgrade - How to?

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You asked for it, here it is. All the details on why the BMW i3 120Ah upgrade is so hard to pull off. Massive thanks to Havrla for supplying so much information and video material! Need an i3 upgrade? Get in touch with Havrla here:
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  • @garyhoward4064
    @garyhoward40642 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dala for mentioning Havrla. He recently performed the upgrade of my 60 aH Rex to a 120 aH (still with Rex..). He picked up the car at my place, drove it 1000km to his home to do the job and delivered it back 3 days later in front of my door. Naturally, this has a price). It is difficult to explain how happy this made me as I have now the best of both worlds. Driving moderate, I got 350km from 1 charge (no a/c, no highway, warm weather). That’s much more than I expected. Off course, winter or highway will be a different story. Havlra is a very competent person and on top of it he’s a nice and very reliable guy with lots of interesting stories to tell.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing, so happy to hear that the upgrade went so smoothly! Hats off to Havrla!

  • @rollojoel1686

    @rollojoel1686

    2 жыл бұрын

    What was the rough price of the upgrade with the battery at Havrla? I am finding 2015 REX models now in price range of 15 000 EUR in Europe. I am just wondering if buying one and changing to the 120Ah battery is worth it. It would be a neat long range package.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rollojoel1686 Always better to buy the correct battery size from the start.

  • @garyhoward4064

    @garyhoward4064

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rollojoel1686 That’s exactly the thing to do. If willing to wait, 7900 + 1000 installation. I paid 12 to get on top of waiting list, have it picked up and dropped back in front of my door. It’s well worth the price..

  • @jamesgrover2005

    @jamesgrover2005

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rollojoel1686 I bought a 94Ah Navi/leather/sunroof 16500km in May for 22.000, got 2000subsidy and some part ex. Prices have probably gone up due to the chip shortage.

  • @philipp594
    @philipp5943 ай бұрын

    I am so looking forward to a 180Ah upgrade down the road.

  • @mikaelgreen2378

    @mikaelgreen2378

    Ай бұрын

    That will never happend because they stop manufacture them 2022.

  • @julianh7853
    @julianh78532 ай бұрын

    Amazing video. Really helpful and highlights all the pitfalls before entering blind into a complicated and expensive project. Many thanks!

  • @NAY2GAS
    @NAY2GAS3 жыл бұрын

    Wow Dala! Thanks for the info. I’ll share with my BMWi friends.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sal!

  • @kylereese4822

    @kylereese4822

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair As with all modifications ` research research research ` before embarking down the rabbit hole of modifying :):)

  • @rhiantaylor3446
    @rhiantaylor34463 жыл бұрын

    Good to know its possible and where to go to get it done !

  • @atms001
    @atms001 Жыл бұрын

    Depends on costs and reliability risks .. it is probably more preferable to just get a 120Ah in a good deal. Although, if it is possible to upgrade a Rex to 120Ah (which is not available), then that would be something.

  • @andrewislam7295
    @andrewislam72953 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video! Thanks.

  • @Mpower-hz4gk
    @Mpower-hz4gk3 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting video. I have noticed our 94Ah restricts re-gen when soc is 100% or when it is very cold ambient.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it seems to only be the 60Ah that doesn't restrict regen at high SOC. Both 94 and 120Ah charge to higher voltages, so that explains it!

  • @flyingyakdeath
    @flyingyakdeath Жыл бұрын

    I’m waiting for an aftermarket upgrade of battery modules that would add to the 120AH highest bmw pack level

  • @Oleksandr555
    @Oleksandr5553 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for your video and nice explanations.

  • @j.t8630
    @j.t8630 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much for this video. I,m a owner of a I3 bmw, and now i know that i don,t work at my car by myself in that kind.

  • @fischer-3934
    @fischer-39343 жыл бұрын

    There should be law in EU that requires car companies to provide replacement batteries and possible software to do the replacement. It would be environmentally friendlier when people can repair their cars cheaper. And that would make more sensible for car companies to use same batteries as rival companies when battery is not source of control and money. They would have to compete making the rest of the car better than the next company. Thank you for the infomative video and research. Greetings from Oulu. :)

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely agree! Thanks 😁

  • @NicholasLittlejohn

    @NicholasLittlejohn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like a "Right to Repair" law

  • @ictviamfortruthgoogleisspa5886

    @ictviamfortruthgoogleisspa5886

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly !!!! its fuking rediculas,, you buying this EV and than you having too many problems and cost too much

  • @kenzotheband
    @kenzotheband2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dala, thanks for your work here on yt! I'm wondering if it makes any sense to buy a cheap i3 (60ah) and do an upgrade to 120. I have no idea about the approximate costs and the range you could get with an 120 ah upgrade. I saw a claim from Lion Light Batteries and a PoC for an own developed 100kWh battery with a 700km range. Sick. After some research it looks like the battery is not yet available and maybe will never see day of light since BMW is one of their customers. Anyway, let me know, I'm looking forward to get some advise! Thank you

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you are buying a car then go right for the battery size you need. This is more for dedicated owners!

  • @garyhoward4064

    @garyhoward4064

    2 жыл бұрын

    See my latest input above..

  • @tomasis7
    @tomasis72 жыл бұрын

    Would it be worth to buy Samsung SDI cells and make allt that myself? Im not in hurry to buy an i3 but in 10 years , the old battery prob be dead or weak so its just to replace cells. Im sure well see some hack on the locked battery :D ISTA D+ is hacked and flows freely on internet lol

  • @Shifau83
    @Shifau832 жыл бұрын

    Where can i get a replacement battery pack for a 2013 i3

  • @lelantine1
    @lelantine1 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dala i leave between Malmo ( Sweden) and Milan ( Italy) im looking hard for to get a last series ( 2018 ) of i3 94 REX with still BMW certificate warranty and low miles.....can u please tell me the cost of the up grade to 120 and especially the risks in such a job. Thanks Ciao Lorenzo

  • @lpka
    @lpka3 жыл бұрын

    Greta job. Wondering if would be possible just to change the inside battery packs individual and make it stronger. The size are the same aren't they?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not possible, the BMS will limit the cells to max 21kWh.

  • @beforebefore

    @beforebefore

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair Why? The BMS usually only care about Voltage and Delta-Voltage. As the pack ages, the capacity decreases, so it won't keep trying to reach "21kWh" (18.8kWh usable)... no, it will just limit charge until the peak Voltage is reached... then the Charge Current decreases to the appropriate level. Substituting the 94Ah modules in place of the 60Ah modules should work... but I would also keep the all of the original 60Ah BMS modules that were in the 60A pack... so that everybody already knows everybody... and they should be able to play together nicely... just longer-per-charge. I have to believe someone out there has tried this... but I just found a locked 90Ah pack for cheap... and it might be worth the try.

  • @HarryLivestream
    @HarryLivestream2 жыл бұрын

    What is the range with a 42kwh battery + Rex ?

  • @Patchworkdaddy007
    @Patchworkdaddy0073 жыл бұрын

    Woow! You are a genius!👍👍👍

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think of myself more as an engineer, but thanks 😅

  • @flyingyakdeath
    @flyingyakdeath Жыл бұрын

    Note pag oil: If you release/drain the refrigerant and disconnect the lines at the battery pack you will not find any oil and should not have to refill. Pag oil is SP-2A and most resides in the compressor. Pumping down vacuum, allowing water to boil off, and refilling with R1234YF is very simple.

  • @tatra7002

    @tatra7002

    Жыл бұрын

    The oil is soluble in coolant. If the coolant is drained from the system, some of the oil will leave with the coolant. The oil must therefore be topped up. And this is the reason why these things should not be done by people who do not know what they are doing.

  • @amdaman3
    @amdaman32 жыл бұрын

    What alloys do you have on your i3?

  • @fordymicra
    @fordymicra3 жыл бұрын

    So did you replace sme or use eos tester to get battery working with car? Interested in the coding part that was carried out any more details on what had to be done?

  • @gregtaylor6719

    @gregtaylor6719

    3 жыл бұрын

    first plug play was on the 120?

  • @fordymicra

    @fordymicra

    3 жыл бұрын

    It does make sense why it was plug and play and just needed coding but you need an understanding of these cars/battery units

  • @mrguzman4G
    @mrguzman4G3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I’ve heard that you could use the batteries from an i3 on a Fiat 500e, thus extending the range of the Fiat...is this true?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably not possible. That is a bruteforce upgrade, and most BMSes limit the input kWh to match what the cells should be.

  • @rp9674

    @rp9674

    2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it will ever be cost-effective to overcome the software & hardware challenges in a 500e. I would love to have 40% more range, I hope to hang on to it long enough to see if it's going to be a possibility. Hard to say what price would be acceptable.

  • @electricwhirl5175
    @electricwhirl51753 жыл бұрын

    btw, have you been looking at the cooling system of i3 in-depth? For me it seems to be quite simple, so maybe it would be possible to implement something like aftermarket for Nissan Leaf?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adding active cooling to the Leaf batteries is a bit too much work. Ofcourse I could make some one-off solution, but to industrialize the solution is too much for a one person job (that usually works at nights :D )

  • @xavcore
    @xavcore Жыл бұрын

    How to match new inverter for bmw i3?

  • @mr.tomyum732
    @mr.tomyum7323 жыл бұрын

    Awesome awesome video!!! 👏👏👏

  • @tonyfoley9189
    @tonyfoley91893 жыл бұрын

    Just a note, not all 2014 i3s used 1234yf refrigerant. In the USA it was still R134a. They didn't switch to 1234yf until I believe 2018 in the USA. They did still use the Sanden special refrigerant oil in 2014 with R134a.

  • @raven4k998

    @raven4k998

    3 жыл бұрын

    can you explain why that matters either way your having to drain a refrigerant before removing the battery as the a/c should be able to cool either battery he says nothing about the r134a a/c system being unable to cool a 120 amphour battery

  • @tonyfoley9189

    @tonyfoley9189

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@raven4k998 he made special note about which refrigerant was in the car, and if you are DIYing this project you need to know which tools to have ready to do the work. R134a and R1234yf require different recover and charging machines and hoses.

  • @raven4k998

    @raven4k998

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonyfoley9189 oh ok just wondering thats all

  • @raven4k998

    @raven4k998

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonyfoley9189 how much does the 120 battery cost does anyone know the Canadian cost for one?

  • @tonyfoley9189

    @tonyfoley9189

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@raven4k998 sorry, don't have that info.

  • @TEVAssociation
    @TEVAssociation3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Daniel where is the link to Havrla ? We ll definitely consider upgrading with them once we ship our i3 back to EU

  • @TEVAssociation

    @TEVAssociation

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nvm found it in description and emailed them already thanks ..are you based in Finland in case anypne there needs help ?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good you found it, and yes, I'm based in Finland!

  • @TEVAssociation

    @TEVAssociation

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair yes already in email contact with them ..we have some followers in Finland Sweden Poland and Baltic states so we may send some biz your way ..you never know !

  • @CarloSartini
    @CarloSartini3 жыл бұрын

    Hi ... for Mini Countryman prev are there more information to change pack battery?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    No idea!

  • @jaro59
    @jaro5911 ай бұрын

    Great Video! Maybe I will order an upgrade from you :)

  • @onceforlife
    @onceforlife3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Dala, can you upgrade my 30kWh Leaf with CATL's LFP batteries (300 kg will approx. 60kWh)? :) Tnx a lot.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can? Yes. Do? Not really, due to the legislation in Finland I am staying away from bruteforce upgrades.

  • @electricwhirl5175
    @electricwhirl51753 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I think the biggest challenge is battery locking after crash. Is there any way to test that without connecting to car?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something like that may be in the works... 😅

  • @MiniLifeCrisis

    @MiniLifeCrisis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair did anything ever come of finding out how to fix a locked out battery?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MiniLifeCrisis have not encountered one yet!

  • @MiniLifeCrisis

    @MiniLifeCrisis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair I have one which will be going in a Classic Mini, if you know of any more info it would be a massive help. Thanks

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MiniLifeCrisis EoS tester is the official tool. Look into renting one!

  • @Suncatcher173
    @Suncatcher173Ай бұрын

    Hi Dala. I want to convert a bmw i3 battery into a home solar battery. Do you have any technical adapter to recommend that will use the original bms instead of having to add an off the shelf bms on each block. Greatings from Luxemburg

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    Ай бұрын

    Use the Battery-Emulator, it has support for i3 batteries plug'n'play. I have 2x BMW i3 packs that I am going to use! Video coming soon!

  • @previ26
    @previ264 ай бұрын

    Havrla: Best man!

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, Havrla is awesome!

  • @randombanana358
    @randombanana3582 жыл бұрын

    What year is the i3?

  • @arminpfanninger9125
    @arminpfanninger91253 жыл бұрын

    Would it be possible to upgrade a 28 kWh Hyundai ionic to 38 kwh ?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    No clue on this yet, time will tell :)

  • @Nobody_Famous

    @Nobody_Famous

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would be a downgrade due to lower pack voltage and slower DC charging.

  • @AlinBaraitaru
    @AlinBaraitaruАй бұрын

    do you have a video with changing only a module? or is it the same procedure?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    Ай бұрын

    For BMW i3? Best to contact Havrla, link in description!

  • @tomby10
    @tomby103 жыл бұрын

    I have and EOS tester for locked batteries in the UK for anyone wanting to upgrade batteries.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Curious to hear how much it cost when you bought it? 😁

  • @tomby10

    @tomby10

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair about €10k from memory

  • @vladimirshostak5443

    @vladimirshostak5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tomby10 Where about are you in UK?

  • @londonwestman1

    @londonwestman1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you know anyone who actually does the full upgrade job - including the ac fluids etc.?

  • @tomby10

    @tomby10

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@londonwestman1 most good independent garages should be able to do everything but the eos test and maybe the software update. I can do those bits.

  • @Alberto-xw8vx
    @Alberto-xw8vx3 жыл бұрын

    The question is, regarding the BMW c evolution, the scooter, can the modules be swapped as well?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand this question?

  • @Alberto-xw8vx

    @Alberto-xw8vx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair Bmw i3 shares the same modules with bmw c evolution(scootee). Can the modules 60Ah for 120 Ah on a bike?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Alberto-xw8vx The modules are the same size, so physically it fits then. No clue how the scooter handles the software side!

  • @donfraser9027
    @donfraser90273 ай бұрын

    What is the cost of the upgrade to a 120 AH battery for our 2015 BMWi3?

  • @galeria4966

    @galeria4966

    2 ай бұрын

    I asked my bmw dealer and they said something like 37 000 EUROS !!!! yes 37 K € . What about sustainability BMW ?

  • @martinarnsten4203
    @martinarnsten42033 жыл бұрын

    Great work! Do you know anything about upgrading vw e-golf and e-up? Is it easy, hard or not possible?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    No experience with those (yet...)

  • @Mega6981

    @Mega6981

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about the Mercedes B250e? Any plans wih this one? Thanks for your great work 👍

  • @dorhocyn3

    @dorhocyn3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man those Leafs are so cheap to get into , hard to stay away from them. One just showed up in the Atlanta north pull-a-part last weekend according to their automated text notifications system ... it’s like leafs grow on trees.

  • @nicklasost5842
    @nicklasost58423 жыл бұрын

    Whats is ballpark cost for uppgrading 60Ah Rex to 120Ah?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    7-9k€!

  • @DavisLR-1

    @DavisLR-1

    4 ай бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepairHow much experience do you have with the i3 now. I am looking at purchasing a 2015 with 80K miles, and Rex. Total distance seems to be down to 105. I am wondering how much life should expect out of the battery? I replay like the car, and the deal is great with the new US 4K rebate.

  • @DraGon-cg6ge
    @DraGon-cg6ge3 жыл бұрын

    Prices?

  • @nickscarborough1028
    @nickscarborough10283 жыл бұрын

    How did you drain the air con/ refrigerant? Did you need a professional machine to do so? I suppose once drained the car should not be driven either.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Correct, professional (often licensed) equipment is needed. We drove the car 40meter once it was empty, but you really should try to minimize it!

  • @nickscarborough1028

    @nickscarborough1028

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair Is it a job a regular professional air con guy could do? Or is there a particular machine / process required for the i3?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nickscarborough1028 Special oil needed, but otherwise the same!

  • @itekani
    @itekani3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, although it is too hard to try. I wonder how hard it would be to upgrade a Zoe?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Should be quite similar, not enough specimens here to experiment with

  • @itekani

    @itekani

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair Here in Sweden we have plenty of Zoes, but I think getting a used battery is harder due to that most batteries belong to Renault.

  • @seanoconnor1731
    @seanoconnor17313 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Really well presented.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sean!

  • @truthissimple9770
    @truthissimple97702 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou

  • @dondakin1
    @dondakin13 жыл бұрын

    This is a good information video but I was disappointed that the over all message was to bring the car to a specialized garage to do this. Updateing sw on the bmw i3 with ista + is very doable but it takes knowledge. I would love to see this information that “special garages” have be released in the public domain to help out the diy crowd. I’m sure as time passes this info will become widespread and allow many people to upgrade their cars if they can find a 120 ah battery source.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, This information is still not clear to me, but will hopefully be soon. It requires significant investment in time,tools and multiple software licenses, so shops usually don't want to disclose everything. Shops will need to provide this service to pay for the investment, and then you can't unfortunately share it. Hope you understand!

  • @garyhoward4064

    @garyhoward4064

    2 жыл бұрын

    See my input above..

  • @dondakin1

    @dondakin1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@garyhoward4064 thanks for the info glad your upgrade went well. As for me I am in Quebec so not really an option to work with this company for now.

  • @craigclayton4514
    @craigclayton45143 жыл бұрын

    Hello Daniel :Here is a non technical observation what is the man in the pit doing ? It looks like he is breaking in or out of a bank / vault / prison. Is this a new way of using the original car pit to change batteries that are becoming larger?. Would it still not be cost effective to buy a crashed battery and let the BMW dealer test it and replace the lock out module? The environmental option is to recycle all crashed or marginal history batteries. It would seem that BMW are doing it the expensive way, Henry Ford would now have an electric vehicle on every farm in America. I enjoyed the few quick pictures of your winter. From Ontario Canada Craig Clayton.

  • @tatra7002

    @tatra7002

    3 жыл бұрын

    propably its same system: www.tesla.com/videos/battery-swap-event

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    The man in the pit is Havrla, he is testing out the battery rail system that he constructed! It looks quite fun :D Official BMW dealership will not help you do the 120Ah upgrade, only the 94Ah one! Need to take it to some specialist :)

  • @dorhocyn3
    @dorhocyn33 жыл бұрын

    Bummer, I was hoping it would be easier. The used car market in America with electric cars is filled with all 50 to 75 mile (80km-120km) range cars except for Tesla’s I live in Columbia South Carolina and there are lots of cool places to go but they are all about 100 miles away, Atlanta Georgia, Charleston South Carolina, Charlotte North Carolina. I would love to take weekend trips with my family to these places with an electric car but I don’t want to have to charge on the way there.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the active thermal management system really gets in the way for DIYers. Kinda funny how everyone always hated on the Leafs passively cooled packs, the upside of having no thermal management system makes for oh so easier cars to work on!

  • @mamadouaziza2536

    @mamadouaziza2536

    3 жыл бұрын

    An older used electric car is not for you.. Try getting a used Chevy Bolt or Volt, the Bolt gets 250 miles on a charge and a used Bolt cost about $15k. There are plenty used i3's with the 22kwh or the 33kwh batteries that have a range extender. You can program the range extender in which you turn it on once the battery is under 75% and the extender will hold the battery at that 75% as long as you drive moderately and avoid long hill climbing. You have to keep gas in the extender as it's range is only about 70 miles at a time and it's gas tank is only 2 gallons..

  • @dorhocyn3

    @dorhocyn3

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mamadouaziza2536 I had picked up a pair of 2011 and a 2012 Leaf last year and swapped the batteries to have a nice looking 2012 with a ok in town car for me but the styling doesn’t do it for my wife so the title of this video had me clicking fast. (I am a master tech and have a 95 Volvo 940 that I installed a Ford 5.0 engine in, little back story... oh , I have a case of the corona virus shut in ramplings.....)

  • @mamadouaziza2536

    @mamadouaziza2536

    3 жыл бұрын

    @nster Yeah, if you must drive a long trip on the freeway, the older i3s with the REx is doable as long as your route has DC Fast chargers on it and gas stations.. Kyle from Out Of Spec Motoring/Reviews drove his 2015 i3 REx from North Carolina to Colorado. Another reviewer in Colorado drove his early model i3 that does not include the CCS charging in the car, drove his i3 up steep mountains and back and he only charged once or twice and it was cold out.

  • @electricwhirl5175

    @electricwhirl5175

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mamadouaziza2536 some guys in EU have driven i3 with and without Rex for 2000km trips (~1242 miles).

  • @jerrycampion
    @jerrycampion3 жыл бұрын

    Just thinking out loud here Dala would it be possible to put leaf batteries in a trailer and pull them after a BMW i3 and therefore extend the range if you wanted to go on a journey.Of course the easiest would be for BMW to give a 60Kw battery with the i3! Thanks for your videos they are really great.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are no flexible HV joints on the market that I know of, so I don't think such a build would be feasible.If the 120Ah (43kWh) battery is not enough, the REX is a nice option. Otherwise switching to another platform might be the best solution!

  • @ksnax

    @ksnax

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your best bet for utilizing a Leaf battery would be to stop and charge from it. :/

  • @electricwhirl5175

    @electricwhirl5175

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can't tow trailer with i3

  • @ksnax

    @ksnax

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@electricwhirl5175 Incorrect - partially. It depends upon where you are. There is a hitch available for it that will tow a small trailer just fine.

  • @jerrycampion

    @jerrycampion

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ksnax you can tow check out you tube and previous comment is correct.

  • @TekAutomatica
    @TekAutomatica3 жыл бұрын

    Did 2014 60ah to 94ah with heat pump in 2019.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Really cool to see others who did these upgrades!

  • @beforebefore

    @beforebefore

    6 ай бұрын

    Fully functional - full usable capacity or did it leave a proper buffer? How complicated... just swap product code, and read SME? I have the 94Ah ready for a swap/retrofit... just need instructions. Mine = USA 2015 BEV w/heat pump and heated seats

  • @NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM
    @NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM2 жыл бұрын

    Probably not worth spending $10k+ to perform. Just trade ‘er in and get a 2019+ model with 120aH pack. It’s unfortunate that BMW does not have a path to upgrade their cars.

  • @oysteinnygardhint
    @oysteinnygardhint3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, nice video :) Lokking for the link to Chavra, can u hjelp? :) Kind regards Øystein Nygård

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is in the description! www.i3upgrade.cz/​ i3upgrade(a)i3upgrade.cz

  • @rcpmac
    @rcpmac10 ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @DeputyNordburg
    @DeputyNordburg3 жыл бұрын

    A great way to upgrade to 120 from 60 or 94 is to trade your car.

  • @andrewislam7295

    @andrewislam7295

    3 жыл бұрын

    That isn't true in Europe as the 120 REx is unavailable

  • @rp9674

    @rp9674

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I had a 94 I wouldn't bother, the 60 could really use the help though, REX or BEV. For me a little more range would go a long way, a lot of range somewhat of a waste.

  • @DeputyNordburg

    @DeputyNordburg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rp9674 I have a 94 REx. I think it's a great compromise. It's effectively a 100% electric commuter car and then you can take longer trips with it using the gas. I've gone 945 miles one way and used electricity maybe 50% of the time.

  • @rp9674

    @rp9674

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DeputyNordburg are you using European spec, hold state of charge function?

  • @DeputyNordburg

    @DeputyNordburg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rp9674 I am at my desk right now so no. But i do sometimes. :) I live on the East coast of the US, so I don't have many mountains to climb. I usually just let it kick on by itself.

  • @xavcore
    @xavcore Жыл бұрын

    why bmw complicate an RC car? 😢

  • @Good-Enuff-Garage
    @Good-Enuff-Garage2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video witty and informative

  • @SkippyPB.
    @SkippyPB.2 жыл бұрын

    This video should be renamed “BMW i3 battery upgrade. “DONT DO IT, ITS NOT WORTH IT”

  • @garyhoward4064

    @garyhoward4064

    7 ай бұрын

    Why do you say that. I did it on mine 3 years ago it was one of the best decisions.

  • @SkippyPB.

    @SkippyPB.

    5 ай бұрын

    @@garyhoward4064 it all depends where your region is. Are you in the US? I'm sure if its in the EU, it is much easier as upgrades were offered from the dealer, and the fact that he keeps on mentioning "if your lucky" isnt too reassuring.

  • @garyhoward4064

    @garyhoward4064

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SkippyPB. I am in Switzerland and it took me 2 years to find someone to do it. All BMW dealers refused to do the upgrade. I finally located the specialist in Europe and he's 700 miles from my home. He flew in on a Monday drove to Czech republic and delivered the car back to me on the Friday. Now I have both the electric larger range and the backup engine in case I miscalculate. I owned many cars in my life but this is by far the best one for my needs and will never sell it.

  • @shhs6127

    @shhs6127

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@garyhoward4064Helou.. how much do you pay for oppgrade ? And can you tell me name off company how oppgrade yours car?? I'm interested to check options to opgrade our i3..

  • @squarebass1

    @squarebass1

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@shhs6127Search i3upgrade Havrla

  • @nikitaollenberger8007
    @nikitaollenberger80072 жыл бұрын

    Good afternoon, thanks for the information. I have another question. I have a BMW i3 60Ah with 130,000km. plus I have an additional 60Ah battery with 15,000km. will it be possible to replace only the lithium cells? The BMS remain the same. What happens if I disconnect the old battery, open the cell, replace it and reassemble everything. Do notice the car that I have disconnected the battery and possibly block the battery?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    BMW i3 cells are coded to the BMS. Not possible without ISTA+ -D, this will be very tricky!

  • @nikitaollenberger8007

    @nikitaollenberger8007

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes, each of the 8 litium cells has its own monitoring unit. I will of course not exchange them, I will use pure lithium cells to twist them. All intelligent modules stay where they are.

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nikitaollenberger8007 Then it should work, but no clue how hard those are to take apart

  • @nikitaollenberger8007

    @nikitaollenberger8007

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does the car not notice that the battery has been disconnected (switched off?) and reconnected to the 12 V supply?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nikitaollenberger8007 nope

  • @atnstn
    @atnstn3 жыл бұрын

    How much did the upgrade cost?

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Roughly 8k€

  • @yannymcgr6500

    @yannymcgr6500

    2 жыл бұрын

    8k euro??? Here in Ireland BMW dealer this cost around 4-5k euro...

  • @atnstn

    @atnstn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yannymcgr6500 Price will come down in time. In 1-2 years it will cost only 2.5-3k Euro for 120Ah version.

  • @mad_politics

    @mad_politics

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yannymcgr6500 is that going from a 60ah to 90ah? Umm i am up in Scotland

  • @Xyquest
    @Xyquest3 жыл бұрын

    I think I'll stick with the LEAF.

  • @NicholasLittlejohn
    @NicholasLittlejohn2 жыл бұрын

    Anyone playing with batteries near Austin TX?

  • @llavero5
    @llavero53 жыл бұрын

    Weight of cars dont have sense with the battery weight posted by the document: Non REX versions 60Ah 1195kg-1205kg 94Ah 1245kg 120Ah 1270kg batterys: 233kg 256kg 273kg

  • @DalasEVRepair

    @DalasEVRepair

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe BMW introduced some other tweaks between the revisions?

  • @llavero5

    @llavero5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DalasEVRepair Too much difference for unknowed items. Only the 427 "pizza wheels" are forged, and maybe the Harman Kardon with 8 extra speakers, or heat pump vs electric heaters justify the variance between 1195-1205 kg in other versions too. Well, the I3s use wider wheels and tires, but i not posted i3s weight, its 1265kg for for 94Ah (+20kg) and 1290kg for 120Ah (+20kg). So it still does not fit.

  • @gathonar
    @gathonar3 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, I now know to just sell ny old car and just buy a new one instead.

  • @corwinblack4072

    @corwinblack4072

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exact reason why EV are dead branch of development.

  • @rossr6616
    @rossr66162 ай бұрын

    this sounds like the easiest way to upgrade since the cells in the battery, and in the modules are DUMB, they have no technology other than battery technology, no microprocessors, you can simply find a cell which has the same chemistry and the same or smaller dimensions and terminal placement and pop them in there; I don’t know what’s in it and I don’t know what would fit, but it probably you can probably get larger Ah cells independently and just replace the cells with higher capacity cells

  • @stevewalsh-balshaw1727
    @stevewalsh-balshaw17273 жыл бұрын

    And that's the problem along with others with ev's

  • @fix-and-drive-diy-repairs
    @fix-and-drive-diy-repairs3 жыл бұрын

    Nissan leaf is better being a 5 seater.

  • @pl1068
    @pl1068 Жыл бұрын

    Why are you wearing a mask inside a hepa filtered vehicle?

  • @machtschnell7452
    @machtschnell74523 жыл бұрын

    Precautionary but otherwise useless for non EU.

  • @hillppari
    @hillppari2 жыл бұрын

    Who needs AC anyways

  • @SeregaBeriya
    @SeregaBeriya2 жыл бұрын

    Вы так много рассказали как трудно поменять батарею. Я смотрел видео, ребята из России в гараже поменяли и всё у них прекрасно работает, да проблемы были при установки, но они смогли их решить! 😉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4SZmbCmprSshLA.html

  • @woaken
    @woaken3 жыл бұрын

    Oh god why cover your face in your car, alone, in the middle of nowhere while recording a Video..? 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @ilcomendante
    @ilcomendante6 ай бұрын

    Battery swaps aside, the biggest mystery is what kind of person would sit in their car with a mask on, even more so for the sake of a video 🤔🤔

  • @misterp4047
    @misterp4047Ай бұрын

    Dude in the car with a mask pfff you are a good sheep

  • @tonydamiani8029
    @tonydamiani80292 жыл бұрын

    Masks were an elaborate and well executed practical joke. Lol

  • @rafaelmatevos7177
    @rafaelmatevos71777 ай бұрын

    Are you really wearing a mask by yourself alone in the car? 😂

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