Can you elaborate what is the purpose/objective for each team (i.e. to fill the groggy bar to a certain point or how much damage they must do) ? Would be nice to understand more about your strategy.

@tommemesaredank9370

3 ай бұрын

It would also be nice if you make this into a content form. There's only gameplay footage for Torment and not much guidance for people who is first trying Torment for the first time. I'm actually going to try your team later after server resets.

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

essentially, Binah Torment can more or less be summarized as a groggy bar management raid that plays around canceling the missiles/sandstorm attack that occurs every minute. to put it briefly: team 1: fill ~50% groggy to cancel 1st missiles for team 2, ~19.6m hp team 2: fill ~80% groggy to cancel 1st missiles for team 3,

@sakulp8162

3 ай бұрын

@@shucksy Thanks so much! This is what I want to know and apply for my squad.

@dutapurnama3381

3 ай бұрын

​@@shucksy may I know what should be the best rotation at team 3 ? So Incase I get less groggy after team 2

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

@@dutapurnama3381 the rotation isn't too different, if you happen to get lower groggy or your Mika team is missing damage then the ideal rotation looks like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqqp2NF9mtjRhJc.html

*me checking the few torment clear* "hhmm Clueless, where have I seen this nickname before...Oh! its the pvp Casual Rat whisperer guy! Gj on the clear!

wow . nice clear man

Thanks for showing your run! I am not ready to tackle Torment right now but this'll help for the next time Binah's around. Should be able to put together some teams close enough to yours by then. Also since I'm guessing it would be Outdoors next time, these teams should mostly do even better no? Or are there any significant changes you would make?

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

the same teams shown in this video will definitely do better in outdoors with better Maki and Mika mood, but groggy management will definitely change with higher damage not sure if this will be applicable since future students (like DKayoko) will most likely change things around 😭

Kazusaless and Miyuless clear? Just what I needed! Thanks as always for providing these. Wait, I just realized this is also Yuzuless... Would there be a good place to substitute her in one of these teams/use a different team entirely for? (if it'd even be more optimal) I preemptively raised her for this raid since she hit UE50 last grand raid shop, lol. Oh well, worse case scenario I can put her on a filler team if I need it, and there are always future raids and joint drills so it doesn't hurt to have her in the back pocket.

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

all my ligma went into PvP brainrot so I couldn't afford to raise Kazusa 😭 I tried using Yuzu on team 1 but she instantly died to the first set of missiles even with Utaha... then I tried her on team 4 but my UE30 TYuuka couldn't keep her alive either. in the end, Yuzu ended up as a backup for cleaning up/adjusting groggy alongside Iori and Hasumi (which is the team 5 that wasn't shown)

@xYamakaze

3 ай бұрын

@@shucksy Yeah I was watching another clear with Yuzu on the last team but they had a UE50 T. Yuuka and Yuzu was barely surviving/had to use some of her HP to tank against sandstorm. Considering T. Yuuka's UE40 gives her a lot of healing, there's just no way Yuzu's surviving even with T8 hairpin with my only UE30 T. Yuuka, so I'll pass and use your strat. Just finished my clear. No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to get under 500k HP remaining on the last team despite having basically equal investments minus only having a UE30 S. Shiroko and plus having a UE40 Kanna. I went into T4 with like 700k more HP than you did, but I figured the UE40 Kanna would've been able to make up the difference. I guess not if it's only giving me 200k more damage on average than 3*. Yikes. I know I'm not giving Kanna enough credit considering my S. Shiroko only being UE30 VS your UE50 is skewing the damage a little, but that's still blue damage on yellow armor. Oh well, I'll try for a 38M later, be it getting a better finishing HP in T3 or using a different T4.

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

@@xYamakaze UE40 Kanna only giving 200k damage on average is definitely surprising 😭, I've thought about raising her further while I was malding during my mocks

@xYamakaze

3 ай бұрын

@@shucksy GUESS WHO'S YOUR LEADERBOARD BUDDY? I FINALLY CRACKED THE CODE TO YOUR RUN AND EVEN GOT A BETTER SCORE HAHAHAHAHA LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO!!! Oh my god my hands are still shaking. GGs man, thanks again for the clear vid! Got any room on your friend list for an add?

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

@xYamakaze congrats on the run! didn't realize that you're playing on NA as well XD

How much groggy should I have after the Mika team since you said in the description that you overfilled.

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

I aimed for around 80% groggy for my mock runs, which is about the same amount shown at 4:00 before the Mika EX team 3 rotation will change slightly though, the video below was my reference in which Maki can deal 5.5m instead of the 5.2m shown in my run: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnVptKaCndSWmZM.html

@joenguyen2443

3 ай бұрын

@@shucksy thanks! Got my clear just now!

How high is your Mika Bond? Your amount of stagger and dmg with her is insanely high

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

Mika is bond 50 but timing is more important for team 2. The main idea is to avoid pushing too quickly for the phase change at 13.2m hp as the groggy bar is frozen during phase change: 1. cancel 1st missiles quickly so the 2nd missiles are delayed (2:44) 2. use Mika's EX early without Maki's debuff to avoid doing too much damage (3:08) 3. Mika can fit 2 EX's that also fills groggy at 13.3m hp (3:25) It's also way easier to use a filler team instead of malding this as the ideal team 3 rotation requires ~80% groggy kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqqp2NF9mtjRhJc.html

how do you missile cancel and when during the mika team phase so maki doesn't die?

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

this is all setup by team 1, we fill the groggy bar to ~50% so the missiles attack is cancelled at 2:44

Is it doable clearing Binah Urban Torment without owning Kazusa, Mine, Kanna, C. Serina, and Noa ? Other than the students i have mentioned I have everyone else ready and invested.

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

clearing is definitely possible but I'd imagine it would take 7+ teams 😭😭 not having Noa is tricky but KR players seem to have solved this problem with SHoshino: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g36GqseFedDXXbg.html no Mine and C. Serina would mean that you would need to find alternative teams to build up groggy for the Mika team, similar to my previous clear: kzread.info/dash/bejne/poipuLSap7W_caQ.html no Kanna means that you would be missing quite a bit of damage in phase 3, but as long as you have students to body throw then clearing is pretty much guaranteed

@quincyantares6103

3 ай бұрын

i tried mock Torment and i solved no kanna situation in phase 3 by just replacing her with Miyu and Hiyori in team 4 and i found out that i can bodythrow at least 3 more team effectively (bodythrowing 3 teams guaranteed reducing at least 15-18 Boss HP bar) unfortunately after those 3 teams have spent i can only bodythrow 1 team for 1 Boss HP bar I also tried S.Hoshino just as you suggested. it works really well for Main DPS team 2 and 3. although sometimes i've got inconsistent transition from Phase 2 to Phase 3 (sometimes Phase 2 lasted until 22-25 boss HP left, sometimes it lasted until 26-30 boss HP left). It forces me to field 1 extra team just to make sure i got through to phase 3 Unfortunately i have no solution managing groggy bar in the beginning of Phase 1 in order to make up not having Kazusa and C.serina and i can't sacrifice my P3 bodythrow teams into Phase 1.

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

@@quincyantares6103 hmm, I see that running out of yellow DPS for P1 is an issue when lacking too much damage in P3 😭😭😭 at this point I would try and optimize P1 and P2 as much as possible without considering bodythrowing and see if P3 is doable with the remaining students

Any alternatives than kanna and mine? I have the rest but not them

@shucksy

3 ай бұрын

no alternatives for Mine since her role is too unique, but you can use a second groggy team to set up for the 50% bar/~19.6m hp Kanna's damage can be made up with body throw teams at the end