Blow Me! Why ResMed EPR Sucks
In this video i compare pressure relief technology from different CPAP companies and explain why a subsequent CPAP pressure increase is required with ResMed EPR on.
I'd like to point out that apnea control is not everything and comfort is essential so you need to find the right balance. I just want you to know that EPR will most likely reduce your apnea control so just be aware of that. Thanks for watching. Cheers
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I'd like to point out that apnea control is not everything and comfort is essential so you need to find the right balance. EPR will most likely reduce your apnea control so just be aware of that but you can still use it if you find therapy easier and more enjoyable. Thanks for watching. Cheers try.sleephq.com/ is my online cpap support community & cpap reporting platform. Master your therapy and improve your sleep with our powerful cloud-based platform. Create a FREE account and download your detailed therapy report today! Features Include - 1. High-resolution 'breath-by-breath' analysis - View every apnea and every breath in full detail. 2. Sleep Journal - Track how changes to device settings influence your sleep & therapy results. 3. Custom PDF reports - Detailed therapy reports complete with journal entries. 4. Therapy Trends - Monitor changes to your apnea control over time. 5. Support - Access to the SleepHQ Community Forum 6. Education - From CPAP novice to therapy PRO. Master your device and settings with the SleepHQ Academy course 7. Blood Oxygen, Heart Rate & Movement Data - Connect a SleepHQ O2 Ring to your account to view additional data sources and take your therapy to the next level. 8. Access to exclusive, member-only discounts on the latest and greatest CPAP gear And much more! SleepHQ O2 Ring - www.sleephq.com/o2-ring/ SleepHQ Magic Uploader - www.sleephq.com/magic-uploader/ Join My Facebook Community - cpap.review/facebook My Monthly Newsletter - cpap.review/newsletter Thanks for all the love & support! Uncle Nicko
@alanmw86
Жыл бұрын
so whats the best device?
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
@alanmw86 here's a video you might like - kzread.info/dash/bejne/qGqTsKqkiMq5grg.html
I’ve been told off today for messing with my settings, I have my machine given to me by the NHS and they said if I continue going into the clinical menu they will take the CPAP off me! Couldn’t believe they’d rather me not be interested and continue with therapy settings that weren’t working until my next appointment that are every 6 months! I’m looking into buying my own kit now and going it alone
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're over in the UK yeah? You can probably pick up a Lowenstein Prisma 20A for around $600 pound and it's worth every penny (although not compatible with SleepHQ just yet) A few of our SleepHQ pro members have been picking up the AirSense10 card to cloud for $499USD (400 pound) and freight forwarding it to the UK so that's an option also. Cheers
@liamwoz1861
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews thanks for the advice mate appreciate it.
@Sneezyridr
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what has happened to me but I’m giving them back their aircurve 10 and going back to my Luna g3
@samsulekshortsdailyyy
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews brother when do you think the prisma will be on sleephq? Thanks a lot in advance for your time
@robinbrown7953
11 ай бұрын
Cpap is a medical device….if a dr is in charge of your care and then you change settings, then something bad happens…a patient could still try to hold the physician for the problem. …and you would rather take advice from youtube cpap techs or whatever they are? changing the clinical settings is like prescribing your own medicine. i understand your frustration, but i wouldnt mess with settings that you may not know all the ins and outs of.
You know what, thankyou for the info, I actually turned my epr to 3 and for some reason I have been getting worse sleep lately, pressure is pressure no matter what, this actually make sense losing the desired pressure wont be back for awhile, last night scared me, because I was choking on my dream and when I woke up from it, I was actually choking, I will change my settings today to what it was Update june 18. It was indeed the resmed EPR, I stopped choking, on the 1st day of turning it off, I was still waking up like every 2 hrs, 7 hrs total, following day it was gone, manage to sleep for more than 8 hrs, felt so alive and energetic, once again thankyou for this info, you're a godsend, 3 days later I am loving my cpap again. mine is Airsense 10 elite.
@CroElectroStile
3 ай бұрын
sometimes notbeing able to breathe out fully during the therapy can cause problems as well, bilevel is better then EPR as it changes the pressure faster.
I was at my annual CPAP review with my sleep specialist. They told me my pressure is set for a variable from 12 to 20, with an actualized average pressure of 17.2. They said that during my last overnight sleep study I was having an average of 93 breathing “events” (stoppages) per hour and none were recorded in the last year (per the CPAP data). Unlike many people, I don’t mind my CPAP. I have bad sealing masks, louder machines, poor fitting head harnesses, etc… I have gotten to the point that I can’t sleep without my CPAP. The difference it has made is truly amazing. No more feeling dead tired all the time, fighting to stay awake watching TV or shaking my head violently to keep myself awake/aware while driving.
I started CPAP therapy 2 weeks ago. I haven't been able to fall asleep with it since i started. Until last night when i turned off auto CPAP. Auto mode have me the feeling of gasping for air and it stressed me out. The inspiration was too slow at the beginning and I felt like I wasn't getting enough air and taking long drawn out inspirations. Turning off auto allowed me to fall asleep for the first time with it. I have the resmed 11.
@xpusostomos
2 ай бұрын
Auto CPAP or auto pressure relief?
Well, that explains a lot. I thought I was going nuts when I first noticed a different airflow with EPR turned on versus off... Sometimes it feels like a damn hurricane in my mask. Fortunately I'm only EPR 1 and was planning to wean off it over time anyways.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
yeah that's correct. An increase in EPR will result in a large influx of airflow into your mask during inhalation. This can cause a mask and mouth leaks and also some other problems. It also increases noise levels. Good luck
I have the ResMed 11 and I swear by the EPR setting. For me it makes breathing so much more effortless. I completely agree with EVERYTHING else you have stated in all your videos (I watch them all). Thanks for the help. You have made a positive difference in my life.
@ahn0x
3 ай бұрын
So how do others reconcile this vid w/ your experience? I'm so confused BC it just seems all negative w/ no alternative
@Hairextensionsbydenise
2 ай бұрын
when you use the epr setting, did you have to turn up the pressure? thanks
Thanks! Very helpful to see the breakdown of differences and ways in which EPR can be a force for evil and for good.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hi there, thanks for tip mate . I think you summed EPR it up nicely with that comment! Have a great day
Thank goodness it hasn’t really bothered me to my knowledge. I reduced my pressure a few years ago on my own which helped with mask leaks and discomfort. I just got a resmed 11 with EPR. I may play around with adjusting it and see what my results are. Thanks for sharing all this
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. If it ain't broke, don't fix it
The secret "Sauce" of the pressure increasing on the end of expiration is usually what causes people to not tolerate CPAP at the beginning, P flex is similar and is VERY comfortable... While i agree with every single thing your saying here.... graphs dont show comfort..... and yea they are less comfortable... sure my AHI might be slighty increased.... but thats RARE....and if compliance improves then thats whats most important...
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment
For a long time I was trying to transition from EPR 3 toward going straight CPAP. I started to shift it to EPR 2. A couple of nights I tried EPR of 1, and slept horribly. So kept it at 2 for a long time. I got used to exhaling against the increased pressure, but never fully used to it, and definitely not to the point of being able to comfortably switch to EPR 1. Since getting sick last week, I switched it back to EPR 3 after having been at 2 for a long time, and it's so much more comfortable. I think my sleep might be a bit better, as well.
@CPAPReviews
5 ай бұрын
Great to hear mate! That's why the introduced it. To improve comfort. Cheers
I have a ResMed AiirSense 11 and when I was struggling to get used to the machine (my first CPAP) the EPR was the key to success. I can't speak for anyone else but I've had zero problems with the setting (I use EPR level 3) and in any case I'd have no problems making a little tweak to the primary pressure if that were required. Not sure what the fuss is about but I guess everyone's experience is different.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, yeah everyones different. There's no one size fits all when it comes to CPAP but it's certainly important to understand EPR can reduce apnea control so if you don't need it, don't use it. Cheers
@narcissus79
Жыл бұрын
I found that EPR was ok for me when I use the nasal pillows, but if I use a full face mask (not often anymore) I can't use EPR.
@buds8423
2 ай бұрын
Resmed 11. Poor communication between tech and Drs causing delays and problems. This interesting 🤔 Hhhm, after pressure of 11-12, got rid of obstruction but CA went sky high. So, they increased pressure up to 16 to reverse conversion to central which only caused an air pressure wound from pillow mask. Then decreased to 7 and with different and same mask, Obstruction and CA went sky high, couldn’t breath and exhausted. Have changed to a range with continued problems with both. Turned off pressure relief- dramatic decrease in both- obstruction almost controlled, CA still too high, but much better… THank YoU! May still need another sleep study and different machine, but some relief for months b4 this can happen better than the bs that was happening…
I am using a Lowenstein 20 and was doing Ok BUT since watching these (Nicks) videos I understand my sleep apnea so much more and how to get the most comfort Vs air control out of my machine.
Thank Chris for very interesting comparison. I believe that clinical blind study with say 100 voluntary patients between a) different C-PAP brands b) various settings would yield so much new data re. brands and EPR's importance to treatment results. Maybe even that golden key to Pandora's box? I am from Finland and we cannot tweak our ResMed or other CPAP machines (yeah, really true!) due our 🤬😤 government healthcare legislation. Patients need to contact to "authorized" public healthcare (long response time) or private specialist apnea clinic (€€€) in order to ask them to tweak or do any changes (and they charge you roughly 50€ for every change). This is absurd law is resulting many people to drop out from CPAP treatment Anyway, your channel and videos are a lifeline to me and other Finns to learn more on treatment! So huge thank you for all your great information
@xpusostomos
2 ай бұрын
Really, are they locked down? One would hope the manufacturers are doing that research and improving their products, but the reality is probably less optimistic
Hey Nick! Been off cpap for almost 2 months and finally the exhaustion is leaving. Lost 55 pounds. I am so glad to be done with cpap!
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
You bloody legend! Congrats! :woohoo
@jeremiahkirby6552
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews Thanks for your help along the way, Nick!
@jeremiahkirby6552
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews Really. Thank you for giving the time to help others all the way from Aussie land. Cheers my friend!
@Healinghands829
8 ай бұрын
Why was it making you exhausted?
@jeremiahkirby6552
8 ай бұрын
@@Healinghands829 Great question and millions of cpap users would also like to know that. In 1993 they eradicated my pineal gland along with the tumor. They thought it did nothing, turns out it regulates your sleep and deep sleep by emitting melatonin. I'm 44 and before I turned 40 I had 3 strokes. Sleep depravation was most like the culprit. I'm a 30 year brain tumor survivor now. 30 years of exhaustion. It just hits me and I have to sleep. Part of why I'm on disability along with brain damage and many other things.
I turned that off last night. Can't say I even noticed any difference in comfort. But I did note my apnea report dropped from around 2 aph to 0.3.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that info mate. Look like it worked
Just rewatched this video. I’m going to experiment and try to lower my flow limitations.
I have always used EPR but will try without. Thanks for the analysis!
@PleasantlyConfused6816
6 ай бұрын
Any update on the change?
Confused! You just compared 2 different machines with different settings, not different settings of the same machine. If the ultimate goal is to achieve better AHI, you just made the case for using EPR as a good thing. What's the downside? Love the channel. Lots of good advice/help. But, this one has me scratching my head. Thanks
@beachsidetech
10 ай бұрын
Yep. This video is all over the shop. Doesn’t add up at all.
Thanks! Turned it off and one of my best nights.. ever!
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Awesome brother! Glad to hear it. Certainly not for everyone but for those wanting more control and better breathing it's the way to go. Cheers
Thanks Nikko, you are the only reason I bat on with it, doctors have no interest in the data uploads. looking fwd to the new mask arriving, much appreciated.
Oh no😬. Great insight and thank you for sharing. I tried with the EPR off or even level 2 and couldn’t breathe with the nasal pillows. Resmed have turned me into an EPR Junkie! 😂😂
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Anytime mate, thanks for sharing your experience. I also can't use my P10 without EPR on. That mask is very small and there's a lot of resistance with the mesh exhalation port so exhalation is extra hard with that one.
@Johnjoe321
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews even with regular cleaning with cheap vevor ultrasonic bath it clogs easily, I had to put a few small holes in the mesh with the tip of a dart and it’s been good on EPR3😉
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Oh i like that idea!!!
That's interesting. My sleep WatchPat One gave me an AHI of 40. My very first night with resmed 11 airsense auto gave me an AHI of 1.56 (my lowest AHI to date [new user, currently only one week]), I turned on EPR and my AHI the very second night was 3.19. I suspected it was EPR set to 3 so I lowered it to 2. Since then it has been 2.06 and lower. I think I'll try EPR 1 and even turning it off.
Had the worst sleep last night from this machine. That’s good advice I’ll try messing with the EPR thank you.
Very timely, have my new resmed 11 for less than a week, coming from a dreamstation 1, two nights ago I turned off EPR and my AHI went down almost by 1 per hour. Thanks for some explanation. Thinking I'll just leave mine off. My mental model was keeping my airways blown up like a ballon was likely a good idea, it would help with stoping things from shifting around and causing obstructions.
I like EPR. No more bloated/sore tummy
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
That's a good point! Cheers
What a greatly informative video on this setting. Super helpful.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment
Terrific video, super informative, super clear. Thank you!
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it mate. Thanks for the great comment
Would love to have seen your opinion on the F&P Sleepstyle….or is it so good that it doesn’t even need a mention!!
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Haha, i'll have to see what i can find mate but yeah probably.
@KaizenOz
Жыл бұрын
Another SleepStyle user interested in how the F&P pressure relief ranks / works ok?
That awesome that you can see all that technical information. ResMed doesn't show you much on their App. I'm in New Jersey, USA. 👍
Thank you Uncle Nicko! Here's a tener to wet your vocabules ... I'll try some nights without ReMed's 'slow rise' EPR off. Good day, mate.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
G'day Don, that's very generous of you mate. Certainly not expected but greatly appreciated. Got a brand new bubba so i'll put it in her piggy bank for when she's older . Thanks legend. Nicko
Good morning Nick, watching the video, I have had the EPR turned on, but the EPR was at 3. I adjusted EPR from 3 down to 2... OMG... the difference was incredible,,,, no leaks and I actually slept better all night. I was thinking of lowering the EPR down to 1 from 2, just to see if the results are better. BTW, I have a ResMed 10..... thank you so much for your video's, I have learned so much but still continue to learn.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hi David, thanks for sharing that info mate. Yeah it's certainly worth dropping a little lower if you don't find exhalation too difficult without it. Nothing wrong with experimenting to find what level gives you the best results. Cheers brother
I would like to thank you so much, you advised me last week to change the pressure to 16 and EPR to 3 and wow what a difference. But I’m keep wondering why don’t they make EPR on from the beginning??
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Glad i was able to help mate
Thanks for this explanation. I think I prefer the phillips machines with Cflex vs the EPR
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people who prefer Cflex vs EPR and also vide versa. It's personal preference at the end of the day. Cheers
Imho the settings the doctor gave me for my cpap was too low. During my test, it says I need 9 but today I need 14 when using auto mode. It also depends on masks. With Phillips I only need 12, but resmed mask I need 14. Your weight also determines the pressure
This video saved my life. I have wasted about 1000 dollars and about 3 months of sleepless night. Pacing the floor because I couldn’t sleep. Got a new cpap in December and just figured out it was the cpap thanks to your videos.
@CPAPReviews
4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
I tried the EPR off and woke up half way through the night with pain in my abdomen. Without the EPR I somehow eat the air and get abdominal pain. Honestly felt so bad I thought I was dying. So I keep mine on now. 😂
@CPAPReviews
8 ай бұрын
Yep that can happen mate! Keep it on but worth a try 🤙
Hey Bro, thanks for all of the very informative videos. They are very helpful, and I always feel like you are there looking out for all of us. Thank you!!! There is something I have been wondering about. I live in the USA, Ohio to be exact. My wife and I are applying for a passport and may be traveling out of the country. How easy is it to use my Air 10 in other countries and will it work. Do I need adapters to plug in and will my cpap machine be safe. I absolutely cannot go without using a cpap even for one night. You may have already covered this topic, I can look back if you have. Thanks and keep up the good work!!!!
@bobmurton5869
Жыл бұрын
Check your power pack and see if it works on 110 -220 volt and look for a US to Pacific power adaptor ( 5-10 us DOLLARS) cheap as.
Great video! What is your approach to treating flow limitations? I've read that increasing EPR/PS is supposed to help but not sure if that is ideal
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thank you . First i work out if needs to be treated and it certainly helps if there's O2 data but you can also tell from the flow rate if it's causing sleep disruptions. If it is an issue and it's a ResMed users it's worth enabling EPR because that can often help as i showed in the video. Increasing the CPAP pressure (ipap & epap) can also help. It really is trial and error when it comes to airflow limitation as it's hard to know exactly the anatomical cause. Cheers
Thanks for the information on EPR for CPAPs
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
I've had 3 machines. The F&P is the best. That is, a Ph's, De and F&P.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience. Nicko
@felipenouzen
9 ай бұрын
@melmo5218 Have you tested the Airsense 10 Autoset?
Bro understood the problem with S10/EPR but what is the solution for S10Autosense
New to this day 4, yet already digging into the settings. EPR on the 11 has 3 levels… I think level one feels like it kicks back in quickly and may be as good as the competition.
It's weird. Turning EPR off reduced flow limit for me.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Pandoras box my friend. It really depends on what is the cause of the airflow resistance. Is it up in your nasal cavity or perhaps the nasopharynx or even lower perhaps. 'Flow limitation' is a broad categorisation. Could be a massive booga in your nose
@bobmurton5869
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews I use a Vick's nasal stick every night to clear the tubes in my thick head. Ha Ha
@EELLISON2012
4 ай бұрын
@bobmurton5869 You may need to try a saline nasal rinse! I did not realize that my nasal chambers were full of mucus.
I thought I was following along thinking I might want to turn off or reduce my epr setting until the end of the video that showed the person had epr off on the resmed 10 and then on the resmed 11 epr-2 on and they had better results with epr on not off. Count me confused 😮
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Pandoras box mate but with sleephq.com you can easily try the different setting and see which give you the best results. Cheers
@imok4u2c
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews thanx. Sleephq on my list as soon as I can figure out how to upload all my ViHealth O2 ring data.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
That's easy, lots of vid tutorials in the Pro academy space mate community.sleephq.com/c/sleephq-academy/
@BigWingUK
3 ай бұрын
I totally agree! Count me confused too. After the first 70% of the video I thought "oh dear, I'd better turn off EPR on my AirSense 10". Then at the end, presumably to support his case, Nick shows just one example....but EPR helped!!!
They changed my EPR to 3 and the autoset is on “soft” they did this because of Aerothagia… it no longer gives me full energy please help! I have mild sleep apnea.
Nick, I'm disappointed you didn't analyze F&P SleepStyle's EPR
@CPAPReviews
27 күн бұрын
There's a lot of cpap machines out there buddy
@tempehuck
27 күн бұрын
@@CPAPReviews Okay -- I just recently discovered your videos and I saw one where you compared the APAP algorithms of several brands and F&P Icon was one of only two that passed, so I guess I'm a bit spoiled already Btw, usage note, "buddy" often has a negative connotation in Am. English, I'd venture saying your natural "mate" is probably the best, because even if not already aware, we can see in your videos that it's a very warm and friendly Aussie word 🙂 the
The first thing that I turn off for every machine. They think they are being clever and helpful, but the C in CPAP stands for Continuous. I like to think that this means constant, not variable.
sleep apnea board shows some good explanation as to how epr can help reduce flow limits. cpap friend made a vid on it too. so is it fair to say epr sucks if it can reduce flow limits?
I tried turning EPR from 1 to 3 on my Resmed AirSense 10 last night and my AHI shot up from 3 to 15, with a Central AI score of 14 Definitely turning it back to 1, or off
BLOW ME!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤓🇺🇸Havent heard that in YEARS!! 👍 Another great video, great job mate!
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
I turned the epr of last night(had the airsense 11 for about a week). I don't know why but it feels better even before i fall asleep.
I use IPR on my ResMed and turned up my pressure 1 CM from 10 to 11 and have had good success. Just my two cents.
@CPAPReviews
7 ай бұрын
appreciate the feedback mate. Nicko
I’m not understanding, is it better off ?
@jimmyjames1474
5 ай бұрын
yes it's better turned off
@jesuswarnedusaboutthem7710
5 ай бұрын
K thank u !
Thank you, Uncle Nick
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
Im confused. Resmed Epr is bad as the graphs indicate,… but real results show better results with the only difference being epr on? Huh. My testing showed Aerophagia only with epr off.
Yeah I do epr at 3 at 12 cm’s of pressure. Works great for me
Going to try EPR tonight.
So I'm confused.. I have a ResMed 10, and my AHI was around 4 with EPR off. My provider turned it on (full time at level 3) and my AHI immediately (and constantly) dropped to 1.4 on average. Does this mean it's worked for me? Or are my AHI readings false? Cheers!
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hey, like i showed in the video it's a bit of a pandoras box but lower AHI is normally a good sign
Well this is a good video and very helpful ! ✌️Thanks !
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the comment
G'day Nick, just clarifying shouldn't the AutoSet Resmed pressure curve (red) should be above the Gray line ??? Otherwise it doesn't go above 10.
SO WHAT IS THE BEST CPAP TO GET ?????? I GOING TO HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE VERY SOON????🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Brother are you going to do a full review of Lowenstein prisma 20a?
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Yes, i'm putting it together now
If the machines are set on the same pressure, isn't part of the "secret sauce" of the softPAP that it in fact goes to a higher pressure? I use my airsense10 only because the "auto on" seems to work much better than my Dreamstation, perhaps I should give that another go. Thanks for the video.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Lowenstein has 11 secret herbs and spices mate . Give it a go and check out the difference on SleepHQ. You can add both your machines on a pro account or just one on the free version. Cheers
@stusue9733
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews Yes I certainly am looking closely at the Lowenstein.(been waiting for your full review, hope I havent missed it). Have an account, thinking about a 02 ring and pro. I just meant that when it is set on 10 isn't it really going to 11?(on some EPR settings at least), so not exactly apples for apples.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Oh you mean with SoftPAP 3, yes that's correct but they also did SoftPAP 2 which doesn't go to 11cm and it was the same results. When i do these research videos there's only so much info i can share. Was certainly Apples for Apples though
@stusue9733
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews Thanks for clearing that up
Please tell me what the 95% and 99% flow limitation on Resmed mean. My 95% last night was 0.15 and my 99% was 0.26
Weird... My original Phillips (yeh that one) did a great job. After i got the Phillips refun, i purchased air sense 10. Never been as good, same setting. Did another hospital sleep center test.. Nope nothing changed.. Still setting of 12. Either AS10 not as good or sleep center missed something.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, this is a really comment and something i should have mentioned in the vid. So most clinics should have pressure relief off when titrating a patients pressure levels but from my experience in the lab it's a bit of a mixed bag. Let's say you visit the lab, they have EPR off and they prescribe you 12cm of pressure, you go home, switch EPR on 3 and now your only getting 10cm of pressure and your now far from the optimal pressure. I think this is a really valid point and it's disappointing that ResMed doesn't provide information and training to inform patients that EPR is not just a comfort setting. It's a very powerful clinical setting that can reduce apnea control in a big way. Cheers brother. Nicko
@Ted...youtubee
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews thanks Nicko. First time i did the test they used a mask + wired up. 5 years later on retest, no mask. Had a probe under the nose+wired up. So they changed methods over the years.
Hi, I am new to CPAP therapy. I started about two weeks ago, and I have been having such a difficult time with it. I have the Airsense 11 and have my pressure set on 5 to 15. I would wake up with air in my stomach, even my ribs hurt! It was bad. And also I would feel as if I am suffocating in the middle of the night I wake up gasping for air. And the pressure feels as it is too high. I keep messing with the settings. Trying to find my comfort level. My sleep has been worse since starting therapy.. but I am going to try some of your tips tonight and hope this helps! I’ve changed my pressure and will turn off EPR.
@Healinghands829
8 ай бұрын
Hey how’s it going? Did you figure out why you were struggling for air?
@Jenessa029
8 ай бұрын
@@Healinghands829 I am no longer using the CPAP machine, the doctor didn’t do much, he just changed the pressure settings to the lowest but it didn’t work. I’m going to try the mouth piece, you put in your teeth. Hopefully that helps.
@BlondieSL
7 ай бұрын
@@Jenessa029Which mask where you using? My husband uses the N30i with a nasal cushion. He tried the pillow (where it inserts into the nose) but he found that it really irritated the nostrils to the point of being raw. So now he uses the cushion and that seems to be working well. The only issue with it, is that if he rolls over on his side, the arm of the mask can move and the nasal cushion moves a bit out of its position. This causes air to escape and the AS11 then increases air flow.
@Jenessa029
7 ай бұрын
@@BlondieSL I was using the pillows and the full face mask(airfit F20). The pillows was more comfortable but I definitely took in a lot more air, I believe because I would open my mouth.
@BlondieSL
7 ай бұрын
@@Jenessa029 Consider using the Ni30 with nose cushions. They just sit outside the nose and if too much pressure, won't force air into the tummy. Also, the nice thing with the Ni30 is that the hose attached to the top of the head, not the face/mouth. We actually got a 90 degree adapter, so that the hose now attaches to the side rather than the very top. We have it going through a guide that is clamped to the headboard frame. This keeps the hose up so it doesn't get under the head at all. With the elbow and the swivel that is built into the Ni30, as you move around, it just follows easily without binding or getting stuck. Much more comfortable. As for EPR, I checked it yesterday as I forgot what I had it set to. It turns out, that it was enabled and set to 3. I did reduce it to 2, even though, it hasn't been an issue, as far as I know. Hope that helps.
Thnx for explaination - I've noticed the airflow characteristics you've mentioned with my AIRSENSE 10 with ERP set to 3. How do the other EPR settings on Resmed compare? I remember there are 3 levels of EPR available. Might one of the other EPR settings improve apnea performance? FYI my AIRSENSE 10 is in CPAP mode (no auto adjustments other than EPR).
Nice why didn't you review the Luna machine with last video . I love mine.
I am confused, but on a higher level! Two machines ResMed 10 and 11, two EPR settings 0 and 2, two days Feb 10, 2023 and Feb 17, 2023! Conclusion is Pandora's box! ..............Pandora was trying to tame her curiosity, but at the end she could not hold herself anymore; she opened the box and all the illnesses and hardships that gods had hidden in the box started coming out. Pandora was scared, because she saw all the evil spirits coming out and tried to close the box as fast as possible, closing Hope inside.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Oh Arnie, you crack me up. i guess my advice is, A. Start EPR on a level you find comfortable however know that if you're struggling with apnea control and want to improve that, reducing the level of EPR will often help. Cheers mate
Great video so does it mean . Clinician should not put full EPR with auto Cpap or vice versa .
Hi Nico, Do you offer private readings?
I have a lot of hypoapneas. I need to turn my pressure up to 13 ( on 11) but I have a problem exhaling fully and end up swallowing air. Should I be using the EPR so I dont swallow air? Thank you :)🥰
What I saw on the chart with softpap was 12 cm of pressure relief vs 12 cm of NO pressure relief. The result is equal pressure so that appears to mean ZERO pressure relief on the exhale at all. What’s the point? I saw the same thing with C-flex. I like EPR with ResMed. I don’t think the EPR is a problem as this video is trying to make it out to be. Its like looking at the minutia of a problem that doesn’t really exist.
Nicko have you had a go on the Lowenstein? I've got a Prisma 20A on a 4 week trial - I found that the Softpap gave the inhalation part of the cycle a slight delay and a fair old whoosh of air. I turned it off last night and found the machine a bit more comfortable but still not as comfortable as the Fisher & Paykel (which had everything turned on). I've had the max pressure on the Prisma lowered after consultation with the shop (from 20 to 12 I think). I had a trial on the Resmed Autoset 10 and had the pressure relief turned on - if I knew then what I know now I would have turned it off. I thought that machine was a bit agro and now I know why!
@felipenouzen
9 ай бұрын
Do you prefer the Airsense 10 or the Sleepstyle?
@rod750
9 ай бұрын
@@felipenouzen I have a FP sleepstyle. I find it easier to use than Lowenstein and airsense 10. Has less settings/options but that didn't affect its performance. I trialled them all first and purchased FP
Interesting stuff. Can you do one like this with comparing these against the same brands' bipap machines? I'm curious if the same brands end up doing better with that was well. Like would a ResMed bipap end up not going back to the inhalation pressure in time, just like with its CPAP EPR?
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting idea! With Bilevel it's different because a lot of the time you want that epap to stay low so it helps with ventilation etc. Thanks for the awesome suggestion
@nailbomb3
11 ай бұрын
@@CPAPReviews as Jason pointed out, with BiPap you can tweak the rise time :) I weaned off EPR after watching your video and his. Moral of story: doesn't EPR as a "cheap BiPap"
If I recall right, I understand never did really feel comfortable with the EPR paradox. Perhaps this is the next version of that?
Nick, thank you.
I'm new to therapy and don't have a device that's compatible with sleep HQ. What I've noticed since turning on the EPR on my airsense 11 is that i don't wake up with my lungs full of air, feeling like I can't breath, and needing to exhale through my mouth. Needing to do this is distressing to me, because I'm a nose breather and I've never needed to open my mouth while I sleep unless I had a sinus infection. My therapy does still seem to be working - i have many nights where my AHI is less than 1 according to the myair app (prior to turning on the EPR, I frequently had an AHI of 8-16. I'm wondering if maybe I ought to have bought a BiPAP. I just did an at home sleep study (due to the probative cost of testing and therapy with the sad excuse for health insurance provided by my employer - I'm in the US by the way) and I'm questioning if I might have mixed sleep apnea rather than just OSA. Like i said, I'm a nose breather and I'm not a loud sleeper either. The pulmonologist said that women can tend to snore quieter than men, and that I'm probably still snoring it just probably sounds like heavy breathing. I think my therapy is still working, at least to some extent. My primary reason for being tested for sleep apnea is because I had secondary polycythemia (excessive red blood cell production - presumably due to being in a hypoxic state for extended periods of time). Since adding another asthma medication and starting CPAP therapy, my polycythemia has resolved! However, I would like to also reduce my risk of apnea related conditions (dementia, heart disease, obesity, etc). My questions are: (1) is it possible for ResMeds EPR to help with mixed sleep apnea or central sleep apnea even though it tends to be ineffective/increase the pressure necessary for treatment for patients with obstructive sleep apnea? And (2) how is central sleep apnea or mix sleep apnea diagnosed within a clinical setting - should I attempt to have an in clinic sleep study?
Interesting video. Really helps shed some light on this. Also how you point out that airway collapse begins at the end of expiration. Makes sense now why EPR plays such a huge role. Also, in regards to the Resmed, is there any instance in which you think it would be advisable to increase pressure to "accommodate" for the EPR or is just turning EPR off/lowering EPR and not have to increase pressure typically better ?
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hi there, you're welcome, the extra airflow delivered when you increase ipap (your cpap pressure) can certainly be helpful for some patients. It can help with snoring, airflow limitation, also hypopneas etc but ideally you want to aim for the lowest delivered pressure and for a lot of patients, extra airflow just causes problems. It also depends on the pressure requirements of the patient. For example, with people on lower pressures it's probably not a big deal increasing the cpap pressure from say 6 to 8cm because at lower pressure levels have less airflow but once you get up to 12+ you're better off aiming for higher EPAP because more airflow will cause issues for most. Cheers mate. Great question and many ways to skin a cat.
@jakec5618
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews Thanks a lot appreciate that. Learned a lot through your channel, it's been very helpful.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
glad to hear it mate
I use a resmed airsense 10 i have gone back to a set pressure of 16.6 with EPR set to one. My expectation is that there is little to no adjusting pressure adjustment - Am I correct in this assumption?
I tried no EPR but didn't like it, but I have lowered it from 3 to 2.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Awesome mate, it can certainly take a little getting use to but if you're getting great results on 2 then probably no need to go lower. Cheers
@travv88
Жыл бұрын
@@CPAPReviews I hear that VCOM item can give a better effect than EPR, is that true? It is something similar, but better? If so, do you have any in sale from within Australia? I don't wanna pay the high shipping costs to get it from America just to try it.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
@travv88 yeah they're available for the SleepHQ pro members mate. Just one of the perks
I need your help. Not sure if this is related to ERP but I just switched from the AirSense 10 to 11 and I’ve been experiencing problems with it. I’m using a nose pillow like I’ve done before and that’s not the problem when I start to use the CPAP machine, but when I actually start to fall asleep, it’s like a burst of therapy air wakes me up and this happens every 10 to 15 minutes when I start to fall asleep, any suggestions on the settings or what I’m doing wrong?
The new machine are automatic! Apap! 9- 20 then you trim it down no one is set at one number any more!!! Mine is from 10 to 14 were it runs!
Very interesting video! Is this still relevant if I am using the APAP Mode on my RedMed 10? Surely the pressure would just "sort itself" out? My EPR is FULLTIME Level 3.
I have an awful time at the beginning of inhalation. It seems I have to wait for the machine to start blowing air, Mandel I'm coving trying to bread in. Horrible experience not sure what to do.
has ResMed ever responded to this critical review of their EPR and state why they don't make it an option or a software fix?
Trying to figure out why I just started CPAP. Feel like I can’t breathe and having more apnea episodes to the point I work up this morning with an O2 of 74%. Not sure what to do.
Dear Nick i am a disable coal miner and I've been on cpap and now on Aircurve 10 v auto 13 to 18. At 4ml oxygen machine and nothing is helping me at all. I sleep 10 to 18 hrs and wake up i am tired and stay sleepy and no energy at all and I feel so bad i can't stay awake and I turn on oxygen 4ml and resmed auto curve 10 v auto. All i do is sleep. I have no energy and stay tired all the time and sleep all the time. My eyes are at half cock in sleep set. I was told get resmed with back up on it... and Apap machine. What do i do and really need. Its hard for me to breath in and carbon dioxide out cause from me suffering from black lungs. I wheeze all the time and rattling in my Lungs and cough up MUCUS all the time and I'm a oxygen 24 7 and tanks also and it's been messing with my nerves and causes serious really bad panic attacks and its RUINING my life. I don't breath normal like every one else and sleep study i did i wasn't ready to breath and wush air went into my lungs and back out done it 4 times i went to sleep when I woke up my Lungs had a work out from top too bottom and I felt like 17 years old and never felt so good and all that day i was wide awake and energy and felt best in my life until night time I went back to being tired and exhausted and sleepy over again and got resmed Aircurve 10 V auto machine and its not done nothing for me all these years I'm Tired being tired worn out and sleep and I can't stay awake nick. My breathing volume was at 51 percent and its worse now go to black lung clinic and do another breathing test. I was a coal miner for 30 years and black lung disable me badly and its all i can do to breath I'm a nose breather but I open my mouth to just has to go one way in me. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF MY SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST PLEASE HELP ME 🙏 😢😢😢😢😢 COAL I'VE MINDED WENT TO YOUR COUNTRY ALSO ALL IN THE WORLD IM IN USA 🇺🇸 AMEN ❤️ 🙏
My mask has never stayed on consistently, my sleep doctor has dismissed it everytime i've mentioned it so i've been just going on my own research for 4 months now. I have a resmed and i've tried changing mask sizes, humidity level, air temp, mask tighteness, a large amount of different sleep supplements and recently started messing with my own pressures because when I called and asked if they could tweak it for me i was told i would have to wait for my next appointment with at the time was 3 months away. Havent tried EPR settings i wonder if it dropping off pressure is making me rip it off in my sleep. Hope this works tired of not sleeping at night
@CPAPReviews
6 ай бұрын
Tricky one mate, i've done a video on this - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXpll6ullJPQaaw.html
@thelastpringle5086
6 ай бұрын
@CPAPReviews I'll give it a watch, appreciate it man
@larryl2398
6 ай бұрын
Seems like most doctors are worthless when it comes to CPAP.
I know this is an older video, but I'm wondering if there's any data on the SleepStyle or SleepStyle+? I've got an Airsense 10 I've had for over 5 years now and I think it's time for a change.
6:56 What does the F & P Sleepstyle use instead of EPR or Flex and is it better than EPR or worse? How does it compare to other cpap machines?
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
I don't know to be honest mate. I've never seen a study done that compares it
I am 57 and I do have severe sleep apnea. If I lay on my back of course it makes it worse but if I lay on my side, it does decrease the apnea. quite a bit through the night, but my pressure is so high I can never get a good seal… do you suggest a mask that with thick foam, and something that I can pull tight without the marks I’ve gone through seven different mask, trying to find the right one to sell my size head..😡😡😡🙏🙏🙏 thanking about the Rez med air fit f30-40
Hi , I want to get help from you all . My Dad was diagnosed with sleep apnea and have been using the Apap sleep therapy with pressure min = 10 and max = 15 . Epr is set to fulltime and set to 2 . Following problem he is facing now : lost 50 pounds which was unintentional and now he has become very weak , complains of headache everyday , complains of bloating in the stomach and the back, belencing in the side stomach and full day burping . No doctor is able to help us . Can someone please help me ?
I turned off EPR years ago. It was never comfortable for me. My AHI over the past year is 0.4 - 1.4. Turned off the "soft" setting also! I just ordered another Res Med A-10 Auto-Set Card to Cloud model. Good prices on them now. What is your "go to" settings for this machine?
I am using ResMed 11 and struggling with to much pressures with it,in the past used ResMed S9 & 10 for Her. My EPR is set at 3. Should I lower EPR to 2 or 1 to see if it will drop the pressure, or maybe turn it off? My pressures with my older Resmed was staying around 7.6 to 8.4. For the first time I am really struggling with side effects.
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Hi there, sign up for a free sleephq.com account which is compatible with the AirSense 11, upload your SD card data and come join me over at community.sleephq.com . You can post a link to your charts and everyone can help improve your comfort and results. I'll keep an eye out
Wasn't C Flex lost to us in Foam Gate? I loved my Phillips machine.... Where is CFlex still available?
@jimmyjames1474
6 ай бұрын
You can still use a phillips machine, either pull the foam out of the air chamber or get a foamless one and swap it: live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527345983_5f1c4c401b_b.jpg
Is Pressure relief the same as EPR? I don’t see epr on my resmed 11 or a 1-3 setting like mentioned in the video and the comments. I’m new to this. Thanks.
@PleasantlyConfused6816
6 ай бұрын
Are you in the clinical setting? You won’t see it until you are
@Jeffhuebner
6 ай бұрын
@@PleasantlyConfused6816 thanks, I found it!
I'm on month 2 of cpap and even I see why I'm getting, I think, bad care. Long story but regarding this, I was on 3 and I wasn't getting enough air with pressure 5 to 10. So as I was trying to fall asleep, which can take an hour or more, on 5, I felt like I was smothering. Feel like I needed to stop using it only because I couldn't breathe while I was trying to fell asleep. ( by the way since day one I've used it at least 8 hours a night, ahi
I hope resmed changes this...i find that it's a bit toooooo easy to exhale with epr on...i heard this isn't good either as this can cause central apnea and retrain your brain to have increasing central apneas. Has anyone else heard about this or can elaborate?
@CPAPReviews
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it does mate, that pressure differential (pressure support) causes to much CO2 removal and thus your brain puts the hand brake on your lungs to balance the books. There's a few problems with EPR (but it's certainly comfortable!)
@preetimittal2123
6 ай бұрын
But if i lower Epr level so the chances of developing central apnea are low??