BLACKPINK - 'PINK VENOM' (Demo vs Final) | Kiel Tutin Choreography

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Song: BLACKPINK - PINK VENOM
Choreographer: Kiel Tutin
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  • @choobers26
    @choobers26 Жыл бұрын

    Just an observation but I think what really differentiates professional dancers’ dance style from that of idols is the commitment to go harder on the moves. Both still look pretty good, but you can see for example that BP tries to keep straight upper bodies and don’t work their neck as much since their faces need to stay seen and visually pleasing. Just something I noticed and found interesting. :)

  • @NaJ97

    @NaJ97

    Жыл бұрын

    That' right. Idols need to still be able to sing properly, the reason why they don't go too hard on the choreo.

  • @yrbigfan

    @yrbigfan

    Жыл бұрын

    They dont move their chest and neck cause they need to sing if the chest and neck muscle moves the voice can fluctuate and can sound bad

  • @choobers26

    @choobers26

    Жыл бұрын

    Good points! Hard agree that it’ll affect their vocals too, which back-up dancers don’t need to worry about so they have more range in their movement. :)

  • @joellebrown539

    @joellebrown539

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats common sense kid

  • @dunkyourdonuts2282

    @dunkyourdonuts2282

    10 ай бұрын

    Also I want to add that there NOTHING wrong with admitting or saying professional dancers dance better than idols. Yes idols cant go full out when they need to sing but even just judging dance skills alone dancers and choreographers are supposed to be more advanced in skill, and saying that doesn't mean hating on idols. When there's a direct comparison on dancing alone in videos like these, its normal to find the dancer version more powerful and sharp. These dancers dedicate their life to their craft, its normal that they're going to be specifically better at dancing. Idol-ing is pretty much whole other skill on its own, which idols are professional at.

  • @slaaay7284
    @slaaay7284 Жыл бұрын

    Opening was really cool

  • @lungafilmz3214
    @lungafilmz3214 Жыл бұрын

    Wow the original Kiel choreography hits harder than the kpop version. Especially the opening section. Plus the Rose version with the dark hair is so mesmerizing. I wish I could watch the entire thing

  • @38syter

    @38syter

    Жыл бұрын

    Her name is Christa Albert

  • @o..r.a..r

    @o..r.a..r

    Жыл бұрын

    The demo opening part is literally a copy-paste from hylt, he gotta stop recycling for a bit

  • @wysse_beats

    @wysse_beats

    Жыл бұрын

    @@o..r.a..r it's true, that's why I didn't like that opening, glad they changed it

  • @hypernovaeofficial4063

    @hypernovaeofficial4063

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing much of a difference haha

  • @changbinhatesjaywhypeeeee4167

    @changbinhatesjaywhypeeeee4167

    Жыл бұрын

    @@o..r.a..r ikr like if he did that idk that square legs down thingy atleast the arms goes like swing from bottom to upper like u r bringing the grp up like man they should get better dance coach Kiel literally can't do anything better but glad their other choreos went viral but recycling it??? damn💀

  • @LinBeReal
    @LinBeReal Жыл бұрын

    In the demo version you can really see that dancer original touch and skill

  • @TippyDaddyChill
    @TippyDaddyChill Жыл бұрын

    They should surprise us with this version at Coachella😍

  • @sykkopath

    @sykkopath

    Жыл бұрын

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING HEREE

  • @LeVance

    @LeVance

    Жыл бұрын

    alright tippy

  • @ttthefoolish
    @ttthefoolish Жыл бұрын

    I don’t understand why they changed the beginning, it was sooooo good Edit: What’s with people thinking BP couldn’t execute the intro? Have y’all seen their comeback stages? I know there’s evidence some members lack at concerts, but they can definitely pull it off

  • @purin5035

    @purin5035

    Жыл бұрын

    They probably wouldn’t have executed it correctly

  • @DarianaOrtizm

    @DarianaOrtizm

    Жыл бұрын

    The demos are always harder and cooler than the official versions😔

  • @ttthefoolish

    @ttthefoolish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarianaOrtizm that’s the thing, it didn’t even look that hard, and yes it was way cooler. The walking gave “bad girl” energy but I prefer the demo.

  • @e.l3046

    @e.l3046

    Жыл бұрын

    @@purin5035 they probably would’ve, it’s really not hard

  • @Jelo-xy9yf

    @Jelo-xy9yf

    Жыл бұрын

    Its awkward idk why

  • @rotten_boiii8033
    @rotten_boiii8033 Жыл бұрын

    I think some of the reasons why some of the original choreos are changed or watered down in kpop are: A. So that idols can properly sing the song while moving. B. So that fans can easily learn the choreo (specifically for marketing purposes, like tiktok dances)

  • @emmak2971
    @emmak2971 Жыл бұрын

    I actually really like this choreo, the best Kiel choreo so far imo

  • @oneofthebreezy
    @oneofthebreezy Жыл бұрын

    Guys, it is not like just one demo gets sent to the idols for their songs. When they require a dance choreography, they request some selected chereographers to prepare a demo. Amongst those demos, the idols and the management choose the most apt choreography of them all and sometimes many demos are mashed together to create a better choreography. So, the point is that it's not like they just work with one artist or just one artist is given preference. There are many choices for them to choose from, thus, stop hating on Kiel and I'm pretty sure Pink Venom's dance choreography is more of like a mixture and modification of the original one. Also, the previous blackpink choreographies are not all done by Kiel, some of them were choreographed by Kyle Hanagami, you can check on his channel. He choreographed Kill this Love, Ice cream, Boombayah and also ddu du ddu du.

  • @sayuaryani

    @sayuaryani

    Жыл бұрын

    B

  • @kevinphan234
    @kevinphan234 Жыл бұрын

    Demo intro is better but I feel it doesn’t transition smoothly into Jennie’s verse than the final version

  • @kittikovari4322
    @kittikovari4322 Жыл бұрын

    The dancers slay

  • @ryanostone22
    @ryanostone22 Жыл бұрын

    Demo was better but idk if they could’ve pulled it off

  • @runotehilla9276

    @runotehilla9276

    Жыл бұрын

    They could've but I don't think the intro to the demo is their style. It's a little weird...a bit too much if you ask me. The song is already a lot. I think the final choreo balances it out.

  • @ryanostone22

    @ryanostone22

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xy9287 reread what I said.

  • @jaaajaaa4164

    @jaaajaaa4164

    Жыл бұрын

    @xy they could

  • @tn-t
    @tn-t Жыл бұрын

    Yo, left side KILLED it

  • @dal9512
    @dal9512 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a full version?

  • @omarberro3682
    @omarberro3682 Жыл бұрын

    The demo’s intro is more interesting than the final version. But if they change it is for a reason! Not just because they weren’t able to pull it off

  • @runotehilla9276
    @runotehilla9276 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people think they can't pull it off lmao. They definitely can but I don't think the intro to the demo is their style. It's a little weird...a bit too much if you ask me. The song is already a lot. I think the final choreo balances it out.

  • @lungafilmz3214

    @lungafilmz3214

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree, I think the original intro is more memorable because it's weird.I do Agree the song is alot as a whole, but that's why you need memorable sections so it doesn't all wash over your brain

  • @firdausmahesa2931

    @firdausmahesa2931

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you runo

  • @runotehilla9276

    @runotehilla9276

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lungafilmz3214 The choreos for the chorus are memorable and the third act

  • @Kpoplover0107

    @Kpoplover0107

    Жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @Sean-il7ko

    @Sean-il7ko

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lungafilmz3214 I don't know what y'all saying but the demo just lack something For example the dance sequence of it must not have little rest because the music is literally building up just like this bit here with Lisa 0:09 And also the intro is not very much like Blackpink it's not their brand And that's why it's just a demo They need to twitch it so the performers can shine more better

  • @terencea.1614
    @terencea.1614 Жыл бұрын

    Kiel just gets it every single time!

  • @1Nmymy
    @1Nmymy22 күн бұрын

    Kiel is Lisa and Lisa is Kiel give the same feeling ❤

  • @alex_a3170
    @alex_a3170 Жыл бұрын

    They really are talented

  • @ivancarrasco2128
    @ivancarrasco2128 Жыл бұрын

    The guy is so talented omg.

  • @danagul3907
    @danagul3907 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing 💜

  • @KatBlaque
    @KatBlaque Жыл бұрын

    Yesssss

  • @ILAAAA89
    @ILAAAA89 Жыл бұрын

    I WANT MOREEE!! PLSS

  • @fadilefilizoglu1525
    @fadilefilizoglu1525 Жыл бұрын

    I love demo ver

  • @smallwish19
    @smallwish19 Жыл бұрын

    Tbh the demo choreo of intro is better then the original

  • @jittykrs1636
    @jittykrs163610 ай бұрын

    Love Keil Tutin...❤❤❤

  • @love__lovernd
    @love__lovernd Жыл бұрын

    ㄹㅇ 춤선이 미친다 ,,,,🫶🏻

  • @a.t.l400
    @a.t.l400 Жыл бұрын

    I need the demo full version😍

  • @acardosando
    @acardosando Жыл бұрын

    The intro is really cool!

  • @wickedelphaba5076
    @wickedelphaba5076 Жыл бұрын

    The intro to the demo is everything!! I wished they stuck with that.

  • @PsPetch
    @PsPetch Жыл бұрын

    นึกว่าจะเต้นทั้งเพลง กำลังดูเพลินๆ เลย แปปเดียวเอง จบซะแล้ว

  • @cutelittlekitten4361

    @cutelittlekitten4361

    Жыл бұрын

    ทางนักออกแบบท่าเต้นของblackpink Kiel tutin เค้าลงไว้เท่าน้ีค่ะ ส่วท่าเต้นอื่นๆเป็นของนักออกแบบท่าเต้นท่านอื่นๆค่ะ ไม่แน่ใจว่าอาจจะเพราะเป็นแค่ท่าdemo พอผลงานfinal ที่ให้Blackpink เต้นต้องเปลี่ยนหลายท่าเพื่อให้เหมาะกับการร้อง เราคิดว่าท่าต้นแบบอาจจะมีลิขสิทธิ์อยู่ที่ตัวนักออกแบบท่าแต่ละคน คุณKiel น่าจะเอามาลงเองไม่ได้เพราะลิขสิทธิ์และเพื่อให้เกียรตินักออกแบบท่าคนอื่นๆได้เลือกว่าจะนำมาลงหรือไม่ ถ้าอยากดูต้นแบบแรกver. ของนักออกแบบท่าเต้นคนอื่นๆมีคนรวมไว้อยู่นะคะ kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYeozbp8dquugdY.html

  • @--------287
    @--------287 Жыл бұрын

    KIEL KILLING IT AS ALWAYS

  • @leighdensing7350
    @leighdensing73509 ай бұрын

    The simpler their choreo, easy cover ♥️

  • @sheng21
    @sheng21 Жыл бұрын

    that intro was super dope wth

  • @sumysim3245
    @sumysim3245 Жыл бұрын

    My girl is TRUSTING that top- 0:12 XD

  • @alexisyanez9638
    @alexisyanez9638 Жыл бұрын

    Ese inicio lo es todo version izquierda !!!

  • @gilo4006
    @gilo4006 Жыл бұрын

    Intro the demo version is 🔥🔥

  • @imgonnatouchyouniceandslow
    @imgonnatouchyouniceandslow Жыл бұрын

    AAAA the intro omg

  • @tswiftleaks-1989
    @tswiftleaks-1989 Жыл бұрын

    do u have old dance team black queen videos?

  • @pinkchella_797
    @pinkchella_797 Жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @krys___
    @krys___ Жыл бұрын

    The demo opening was much better, but would have been harder for some of the black pink girls to pull off. Kiel’s crew pulled it off with so much confidence and power.

  • @Xuo_smax07
    @Xuo_smax07 Жыл бұрын

    Blackpink Best 👍👍👍😍🖤💗

  • @erikmorales4448
    @erikmorales4448 Жыл бұрын

    Ok but the begining of the Kiel it´s like How You Like that lmao hahaha

  • @kmks1251
    @kmks1251 Жыл бұрын

    박수가 너무 찰진데

  • @sharkar9110
    @sharkar9110 Жыл бұрын

    I want the full version 😪😪

  • @neriahlunagonzalez9230
    @neriahlunagonzalez9230 Жыл бұрын

    BLACKPINK FOR LIFE

  • @garagag4996
    @garagag4996 Жыл бұрын

    this a choreo with $1000k thats fuckin worth it

  • @ShineBright506

    @ShineBright506

    Жыл бұрын

    Really? $1000k? wow that's a lot

  • @Desdex
    @Desdex Жыл бұрын

    1000% vs 10%

  • @vkstunning4975
    @vkstunning4975 Жыл бұрын

    The starting is better in the demo version like it's kinda ico-deserving..

  • @Leo-ls8tu
    @Leo-ls8tu Жыл бұрын

    he cant keep getting AWAY WITH IT

  • @prasitbanloog5849
    @prasitbanloog5849 Жыл бұрын

    💘😍🥰💕👍

  • @sketty8572
    @sketty8572 Жыл бұрын

    My thought and Actually Me When I dance

  • @pietrafesa_enzo
    @pietrafesa_enzo Жыл бұрын

    Loved demo version way better

  • @gaylebitco6940
    @gaylebitco6940 Жыл бұрын

    better

  • @smsxxyy
    @smsxxyy Жыл бұрын

    the part where Lisa "1 by 1 and 2 by 2" that was originally from Rihanna's song titled Pon de Replay

  • @taethetunesmith

    @taethetunesmith

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought everyone knew this already... They have given the credits too🤔

  • @smsxxyy

    @smsxxyy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@taethetunesmith precisely, hopefully they give some credits to the rightful owner... another thing when the artist is famous they can pay for credit for them to be the owner.

  • @nickiharujuku
    @nickiharujuku Жыл бұрын

    I will admit the choreography is good but it would be really difficult to dance like that AND sing

  • @jimired
    @jimired Жыл бұрын

    thank god they changed the beginning.. blackpink's final ver is so much better

  • @sooling5529
    @sooling5529 Жыл бұрын

    wait because the demo’s ‘runways i walk walk’ slayed because i finally noticed they were walking on the runway???!!

  • @eslnter
    @eslnter2 ай бұрын

    I prefer the final as it was building up with a grand opening movements instead of stationary in position most of the time. Imo final got a better intro

  • @eveek
    @eveek Жыл бұрын

    Bp can literally do this wth..

  • @goldenxyoon702
    @goldenxyoon702 Жыл бұрын

    YG dancers are amazing they just v hard choreography into easy attractive according to idols ofc. Prop to them

  • @Kpop_world_blink
    @Kpop_world_blink Жыл бұрын

    They do it with so much energy if they went to a concert I’m pretty sure they won’t do it with so much energy

  • @MarkuzZTech
    @MarkuzZTech Жыл бұрын

    Let me just clarify this, did he do the original choreography of the song? Is the choreographer?

  • @angelbae459
    @angelbae459 Жыл бұрын

    Não mudou muito coisa, só o começo que e diferente

  • @jordandiskin6119
    @jordandiskin6119 Жыл бұрын

    Idk what y’all expected. What else does Blackpink have to prove? They aren’t some up and comers trying to make it to the top. BITCH THEY ARE THE TOP, and maybe it’s disappointing that their choreo is less exciting and their energy is lacking, but gurl they deserve it. They worked so hard to get where they are, just let them relax and enjoy being the top dogs. Edit: yes I know all groups have to work hard. In fact I think most groups are overworked. Part of why it makes me happy that Blackpink isn’t.

  • @kkjkjjjj2525

    @kkjkjjjj2525

    Жыл бұрын

    bruh literally everyone in this world works hard its not just them. once u’ve achieved sumn u cant just stop u need to maintain ur position. blavk pink has been receiving a lot of hate nowadays so they better be doing sumn new which catches everyone’s attention or they gonna doom. blinks might keep supporting them just like that cuz they dont really care bout real talent but the people who used to appreciate their music def gonna leave

  • @CHopeBerlin

    @CHopeBerlin

    Жыл бұрын

    so much is wrong with ur comment

  • @onlydbrasko

    @onlydbrasko

    Жыл бұрын

    Ikr. I'm sure YG and Kiel are worried about losing fans over a bunch of self-appointed choreo analysts on social media.

  • @NaNa-km3fv
    @NaNa-km3fv Жыл бұрын

    Where is the full ver? Demo?

  • @uextlevel
    @uextlevel Жыл бұрын

    so we have no footage of them doing the demo choreography?

  • @thangquang2903
    @thangquang2903 Жыл бұрын

    Xem bản dem nhớ lại balckpink là đàn gà😂😂

  • @mightyobserver12
    @mightyobserver12 Жыл бұрын

    BLackpink outfiT

  • @Rojeanne
    @Rojeanne Жыл бұрын

    For me the blackpink hits different, slayyed harder

  • @rjfourl4256
    @rjfourl4256 Жыл бұрын

    they gotta get a female choreographer bc the white man isnt cutting it !!!!

  • @medici__

    @medici__

    Жыл бұрын

    he always gives the ugliest most awkward choreos ever, i wish the industry would stop working w him like fr

  • @Ash-xt1ej
    @Ash-xt1ej Жыл бұрын

    That intro is amazing, but it is less of like the stereotypical prettier idol choreo. I honestly wish kpop would embrace this intro’s style more, it would make everything in the song just hit harder

  • @shardharana7524
    @shardharana7524 Жыл бұрын

    You know real is real or blackpink is the best.

  • @tesser_act
    @tesser_actАй бұрын

    로제가 안무 진짜 잘살렸네

  • @backtoredera
    @backtoredera Жыл бұрын

    we robbed with the opening

  • @yuxrakhanblinkarmy4993
    @yuxrakhanblinkarmy4993 Жыл бұрын

    Lisa dance she did most perfectly.... 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @elizabethmuniz5022
    @elizabethmuniz5022 Жыл бұрын

    Why do I kinda like the demo ver better than the final ver (no hate in my opinion)

  • @Jg8jewetwwhcastelw3
    @Jg8jewetwwhcastelw3 Жыл бұрын

    THEY SHOULDVE KEPT THE DEMO INTRO

  • @guigui3445
    @guigui34455 ай бұрын

    Seria muito igual a entrada de how you like that a original

  • @princesskyutt8697
    @princesskyutt8697 Жыл бұрын

    idols need to make the choreo more easier cause theyr not just dancing, remember they need to look pretty/charming while singing, Rapping and dancing etc. they have been practicing 3-5years before debut so if they only wanted to perform crazy dance moves sure they can but nope being a dancer alone is diff. from being an IDOL

  • @sweaterpawsjimin6093
    @sweaterpawsjimin6093 Жыл бұрын

    The Demo version most powerfull then Blackpink

  • @nnn9854
    @nnn9854 Жыл бұрын

    i am shocked to see jennie dancing with energy why doesn't she be more consistent in concerts too though

  • @filowanderer9734

    @filowanderer9734

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe because she was singing in the concert? It's just a guess. I mean...

  • @onigirimiyaa6042
    @onigirimiyaa6042 Жыл бұрын

    The demo entrance was tacky for me. I prefer how they mixed and match the final one

  • @Shea_diary
    @Shea_diary Жыл бұрын

    demo ver is better

  • @archie3680
    @archie3680 Жыл бұрын

    Cause they need to sing too lol that's why

  • @user-ti7mt7qe8u
    @user-ti7mt7qe8u Жыл бұрын

    인트로 블랙~핑크 하는부분 안무 훨씬좋은듯 ㅜㅠ 블핑이 했으면 소름돋았을듯

  • @cameliaelsie3351
    @cameliaelsie3351 Жыл бұрын

    The final ver is more feminine and suits BLACKPINK better

  • @onlydbrasko

    @onlydbrasko

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. The only group who both Kiel and Leejung also work with and could look as powerful and sharp is Itzy

  • @wysse_beats
    @wysse_beats Жыл бұрын

    glad they changed the opening because it's too similar to HYLT, Pink venom's is more original

  • @rotten_boiii8033
    @rotten_boiii8033 Жыл бұрын

    Btw how did he think of that?!!!! 0:32

  • @monique2939
    @monique2939 Жыл бұрын

    Professional dancers vs idol dancers

  • @alciorne9486
    @alciorne9486 Жыл бұрын

    I just can't YGX still the best sorry haha

  • @ARMYBTS-qu5mt
    @ARMYBTS-qu5mt Жыл бұрын

    Why is it so violent and harsh??😭

  • @gankorth

    @gankorth

    Жыл бұрын

    Bc it’s the demo

  • @hobisrealbf3434
    @hobisrealbf3434 Жыл бұрын

    i wish they wouldn’t simplify them so much. i understand having to sing/rap but like … they make them so boring

  • @maxbrod476
    @maxbrod476 Жыл бұрын

    เต้นแข็งแรง แต่ไม่มีเสน่ห์​

  • @gankorth

    @gankorth

    Жыл бұрын

    มันเป็นเดโมค่ะคุณ

  • @GUGU.422
    @GUGU.422 Жыл бұрын

    Начало просто супер. Намного лучше версии kpop где они тупо выходят

  • @Amber_2002
    @Amber_2002 Жыл бұрын

    คนแรกเปิดตัวมาเสร็จไม่ดูต่อเลยตลกมาก เต้นเเรงจนเหมือนกระดูกจะหัก 🤣😂

  • @gankorth

    @gankorth

    Жыл бұрын

    เขาต้องเต้นแรงค่ะเพื่อให้ท่าชัดถ้าเป็นเดโม ถ้าท่าไม่ชัดมันจะแกะยากค่ะ

  • @Amber_2002

    @Amber_2002

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gankorth อ๋อพึ่งรู้เลยนะเนี้ยเรียนมาที่ไหนหรอคะ เท่าที่รู้มาไลน์เต้นชัดไม่ได้วัดจากแรงไม่แรงนะ อยู่ที่การเมนเนดร่างกายกับจังหวะ อินเนอร์ก็สำคัญมาก จังหวะไหนควรผ่อนควรแรง ทุกอย่างมันมีกราฟของมันจ้า ขอบคุณสำหรับความรู้ใหม่นะคะ

  • @joellebrown539
    @joellebrown539 Жыл бұрын

    Not yall saying the demo intro is better no its not its too messy

  • @himeroswings
    @himeroswings Жыл бұрын

    This choreo is so bland

  • @sharkar9110
    @sharkar9110 Жыл бұрын

    I must admit Lisa even did it better than Tutin🤯

  • @celineklakovsky4621

    @celineklakovsky4621

    Жыл бұрын

    In your dreams LMAO! An idol well NEVER be better at dancing than a TRUE PROFESIONAL DANCER.

  • @yuxrakhanblinkarmy4993

    @yuxrakhanblinkarmy4993

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought too Lisa is better

  • @sooyaamine
    @sooyaamine Жыл бұрын

    الرقصات الجديدة خياس وفكرة فاشلة انهم يحطون عضوة ترقص ووراها دانسرز خلفيين طيب همه جالسين يأدون ك فرقة ليه ماتخلوهم يرقصون سوا

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